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      Tibhar
    • Price
      $70.00
    • Type
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    # Manufacturer stats
    • Speed
         9.0
    • Spin
         9.3
    • Control
         8.8
    @ User stats
    • Speed
         8.8
    • Spin
         9.5
    • Control
         8.8
    • Durability
         6.9
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    Thanks to the new pimple geometry of the rubber surface the ball contact time is expanded creating a spin geared dynamic version of Evolution with top catapult effect when playing aggressively. Great ball feeling, the rubber response is tremendous when playing powerful attacking spin strokes both at the table or at mid distance. Consistent performance and with superb stability for a full range of shots – don’t be concerned, touch when playing passive strokes is excellent.
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      Posted 10-01-2019
      5.00 Spinny, has it all rubber
      Guybrush123's Avatar Guybrush123 Reviews(7)
      • Spinniest
      • Serves, smashes
      • Looping

      • A little heavy
      • Nothing
      • Nothing
      The second time i buyed this rubber, and i must say, i have tried now 184 rubbers, and this hs it all. Its a fast, incredible spinny, little tacky first class rubber from what now is the biggest tabletennisbrand in Europe, Tibhar. This does it all, and the spin stays the same for months and months. Its main goodies is of course the Spin, Speed (almost as fast as MX-P, Incredible spinny service, and it is a looper of absolute worldclass. Its a stayer on my magical blade Nittaku Septear Lead, a very, very good Hinoki-Kiso Nittaku quality blade. Oh, and the rubber reminds me on the first times i played with Butterfly Tenery 05, but this is far better!

      User stats

      • Speed
           9.2
      • Spin
           9.9
      • Control
           8
      • Durability
           8.5
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      Posted 12-14-2017
      5.00 Chinese Style Euro Looping Rubber
      • Spin
      • Control
      • Versatility

      • Max Weight
      I have played on and off with this rubber over the last 3 years. Every time I have used it, I have used it on both sides of my blade and used 1.9-2.0mm instead of MaxMax as this brought the weight closer to a sheet of Tenergy 05 2.1mm and increased my feeling for the rubber. I recommend this step for all hard sponged ESN rubbers.

      The key to this rubber is to realize that it is a spin oriented rubber for someone who wants to both spin drive and spin with arc and the technique is largely similar across various shots, which is the case for Chinese style tacky rubbers but not the case for more power oriented rubbers like T05 and MX-P. For MX-S, you always brush and use the precision of your brush to determine the arc, even when driving. This is can lead to some high arcing drives on loops and counterloops, loaded with spin. Most people who complain about the arc on drives are simply trying to hit through the ball with T05 or MX-P technique without trying to precisely arc the ball.

      The blocking and short game control of this rubber is amazing for an Euro rubber given the amount of spin. THe rubber is relatively slow compared to a power rubber like T05 or more strictly speaking, MX-P or T64. But the gain in control is great for those who want to consistently spin and spin shots can be played against a variety of ball types once the topsheet and sponge are mastered.

      The main negative is the weight, but I think many players even at decently high levels would do well with 1.9mm sponge and Max is easily supportable if you use a lighter rubber on the backhand. On a Hinoki blade, you get an extreme feeling of grabbing the ball that some may really like.

      Highly recommended. If you find the rubber too low throw, then you simply are not brushing with precision.

      User stats

      • Speed
           8.5
      • Spin
           10
      • Control
           8.6
      • Durability
           8
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      Posted 12-07-2017
      3.00 The Great Practice Rubber
      • Spin
      • Block

      • Stupidly Heavy
      • Deteriorates
      I found this rubber pointless because it's so heavy that its main advantage is negated. It's great at spin, but if it were half as spinny and 20 grams lighter you could accelerate more easily and get all that spin and more back on most shots.

      This rubber makes you feel amazing in training shots, where you have time and foreknowledge of what shot you're playing, so you can get everything prepared and hit a wonderful spinny shot. In a fast game its weight drags your whole bat down, making it harder to align it fast enough and accelerate unless the shot is really well prepared and position is perfect.

      Great practice rubber, but not a good one for actual play. Other rubbers do it better.

      User stats

      • Speed
           8.5
      • Spin
           9
      • Control
           7
      • Durability
           7
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      Posted 07-30-2017
      5.00 MaXimum Spin!
      RajaLoopah Reviews(16)
      • Huge SPIN
      • Sensation
      • Gears

      • Heavy
      I used this rubber on 3 blade which are PowerSpin Carbon, Force Pro Black Edition, and my current blade Kim Jung Hoon. I asked Sanil Setty his setup and said that he uses MX-S on his backhand while his forehand is MX-P. In the first two blades I used the MX-S on my forehand but after discovering that Vladi and Sanil uses it on their bh I also followed. I transferred my MX-P and MX-S on my Tibhar Kim Jung Hoon blade and used MX-P for fh and MX-S for bh.

      In my forehand side the MX-S feels like a boosted Hurricane rubber with a softer topsheet while on my backhand it feels literally like the back of my hand. I never imagined that a heavy chinese like tensor on the backhand would be this good. The ball goes where I want it to with the depth and length, very precise. I always watch Vladi's match and I wonder how he does is on MX-P until I discovered that it was MX-S all along!

      I can say that MX-S is:
      - A lot spinnier than MX-P
      - Insensitive to incoming spin
      - Very good in blocking and counter blocking
      - A humiliating rubber that you can literally slap a spinny loop
      - Surprisingly very good on backhand
      - Slower than MX-P
      - Really really spinny

      I found my perfect backhand rubber with MX-S, spinny when looping yet insensitive when blocking. Now I understand why Vladi has so much control in his backhand. Did I mention that MX-S is slightly heavier than MX-P which adds power and stability on the fh side. Overall a very perfect rubber for bh but can also be used in the fh side if you prefer chinese style rubbers on fh.

      User stats

      • Speed
           9
      • Spin
           9.6
      • Control
           9.5
      • Durability
           8.5
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      Posted 07-11-2017
      4.00 MX-S RPB Review!
      pingpongholic10 Reviews(8)
      • Great Spin
      • Not Slow
      • Topsheet Grip

      • Very Very Heavy
      • Lowish Throw
      Loved using MX-S on my RPB, but it's soooooo heavy! 55grs cut! Ouch!
      Good balance of everything, but excels in brushing strokes. Drive throw is a bit too low for my stroke.

      User stats

      • Speed
           8.5
      • Spin
           9.2
      • Control
           8.4
      • Durability
           7.9
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      Posted 01-09-2017
      5.00 Great Hard Rubber to Generate Immense Spin!
      • Immense Spin
      • Good Control
      • Many Gears

      • Heavyweight
      • requires good
      • footwork to use
      This rubber is a wonder, for one who used to only want to use Hurricane 3 Neo on his forehand. I thought that I can never use a Tensor on my forehand and this changed my mind. It feels similar to a Hurricane in terms of it being High Throw and that you need force to generate pace and immense spin, though you have to be in position to fully use it's full capabilities. I currently use it on forehand on my Stratus Carbon blade.

      This rubbers has very high spin potential, good control and many gears which I like for my allround offensive game. The only downside for other may be is that it weighs a ton. And if you like "catapulty" rubbers you should stay away from the MX-S, as it doesn't simply play like a harder MX-P but perhaps an MX-P with a lot less booster, but if you like a rubber that you'd have to use your own force and power to generate spin and pace on the ball like using Chinese Tacky rubbers, then you'd like this rubber. Another use for this rubber is if you'd like to use a hard rubber for your backhand. Vladimir Samsonov actually uses the MX-S on his backhand, he clearly boosts his though.

      User stats

      • Speed
           8.5
      • Spin
           9.5
      • Control
           9.0
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      Posted 01-08-2017
      5.00 A superb rubber for the spin-, block- and flat hit minded player
      tabletennis11.com's Avatar tabletennis11.com Reviews(34)

      As expected for a 47.3-degrees rubber, the Tibhar Evolution MX-S is quite firm to the touch (similar to, e.g., Xiom Omega Asia and Tour) and relatively heavy, weighing 52 grams when cut to the 157x150 mm test blade. This is heavier than Xiom’s Omega V Asia (51 g), Gewo’s nanoFLEX FT48 (51 g), or Nittaku’s Fastarc G-1 (49 g), but lighter than the Gewo Hype XT Pro 50 (53 g). The MX-S feels crisp and responsive on FH drives. The rubber’s medium catapult and OFF speed rating instill a desire to hit hard from mid-distance. The rubber grips the 40+ ball well – I did not experience any ball slippage. Judging by my opponents’ blocks, opening loops can be played with very high levels of spin. There is enough speed to engage in topspin-to-topspin rallies far from the table, even when playing with an only moderately fast all-wood blade. Read our full review of all the Evolution series rubbers.

      User stats

      • Speed
           9.2
      • Spin
           9.5
      • Control
           9.3
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      Posted 09-23-2016
      5.00 Review on the Tibhar Evolution MX-S
      • Great spin
      • Crisp

      Tibhar Evolution MX-S
      Weight: 75 grams uncut, 51 grams uncut
      Sponge Hardness: 45.7°
      Hardness: Medium/Hard
      Speed: Medium/High
      Spin: Medium/High
      Blade used: Tibhar Stratus Carbon blade



      The MXS is the hardest rubber of the 4 in the Evolution Series. You can see initially the ball flew of the table as we found it a little difficult after using the ELP and FXP which have much softer sponges.

      I was a little skeptical about using the MXS rubber on the backhand side beforehand thinking the sponge would be to hard, however I was pleasantly surprised. The direct nature of the rubber gave me the accuracy I needed to play strong attacking strokes mixing up the direction of play with ease.

      When playing against backspin the MXS gripped the ball very well and produced slightly more spin than the other rubbers in the series. The topsheet of the MXS seems to be tackier than all other evolution rubbers which helps create more spin. To produce significant spin with this rubber however requires a fast arm and body speed with efficient technique.

      For more in depth information about the Evolution MS-S click here.

      User stats

      • Speed
           9
      • Spin
           9
      • Control
           8.5
      • Durability
           8
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      Posted 08-06-2016
      5.00 My Prefered BH rubber
      Epistemology Reviews(3)
      • Control
      • Spin
      • Price

      • A bit slow
      • technique
      I love this rubber on the BH side for RBP. It is a hard rubber with a very grippy topsheet. It provides very good feel especially when engaging the sponge. It provides tons of control and spin (need to engage sponge) and it rewards good stroke technique. Serves have tons of spin. Plays well on hinoki blades like my photino and a bunch of my adidas blades.

      User stats

      • Speed
           9
      • Spin
           9.4
      • Control
           9
      • Durability
           7.4
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      Posted 06-16-2016
      5.00 Great spin and control, controlled attackers will love this
      • Awesome spin
      • Nice control
      • Easy to open up

      • none yet
      My first review and I am going to compare to what I have been using the last 4 months. A Drinkhall Powerspin Carbon blade with MX-P max thickness both sides. I kept an MX-P on my BH and glued an MX-S on my Fh, first to the touch it was definitely more grippy than MX-P with a harder sponge but I would say a softer rubber. It was only a small session just a warm-up with a few forehand to forehand and backhands etc; the normal, proceeded by some serve return stuff and followed by a few games. First impressions were positive whilst warming up my normal forehand topspin was troubling my hitting partner with several being blocked back long from the spin I was generating, I kept my stroke pretty much the same maybe a little more upward to compensate for what I would say is a slightly lower throw. Again switching to the backhand the same scenario, the spin was massive and the lower throw was more suited to my backhand stroke.

      Moving on to serve return and again straight away I could see the spin was causing problems to my hitting partner, any backspin serves I could load right up and he would dump them straight in the net. He said how much more spin I was producing on my serves and that he had to adjust his bat angle quite a lot compared to the MX-P to return the ball. Going to a long dig from a backspin serve and this rubber to me was probably one of the easiest to open up against backspin I have ever used. If my footwork was good and I put maximum effort I could easily produce massive spin that would win a point outright or cause my partner to struggle to keep it on the table, but even when out of position I could still lift backspin quite easy with a flick of my arm.

      I wouldn’t say a negative of this rubber but a compromise maybe, the spin is massive and the touch shots I could keep short and loaded, I felt confident with most shots and that I could control incoming spin easy too but once off the table, especially compared to MX-P personally I found it a little harder to stay in the top to top rallies. I would say that the slightly slower speed and extra spin helped me place the ball where I wanted but It lacked the outright power and speed to out hit my opponent from a couple of metres back. I had to generate the pace from my technique rather than rely on the sponge power. Not a weakness in the rubber for sure just different and maybe the slightly lower throw again, a more upward brush on the ball during counter hits.

      I will stick with it for a while and see how durable it is compared to other Evolution rubbers but definitely I am liking the extra spin and touch I was getting. I would recommend people who use MX-P to give it a try, it shines at looping backspin and control is great too and if you stay close to the table whilst playing then there is no major weakness I would say.

      I will update on durability after using it for a couple of weeks.

      User stats

      • Speed
           9
      • Spin
           9.5
      • Control
           9
      • Durability
           9
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      Posted 04-15-2015
      5.00 Fantastic rubber for spin orientated attacking players
      Paul Drinkhall's Avatar Paul Drinkhall Reviews(4) Verified Pro Player
      • Great spin level
      • Superb Control
      • Speed Balance

      Speed 9.0
      Spin 9.8
      Control 9.0
      Tackiness Slightly Tacky
      Weight Medium
      Sponge Hardness Medium – Hard, harder than MX-P.

      Overall 9.8

      As requested by some players after my last review of the TIBHAR Evolution MX-P, this week I have reviewed the TIBHAR Evolution MX-S. Like the MX-P, this rubber is currently available from my UK sponsors Bribar Table Tennis at a special offer, first 100 sheets sold price of £34.99, reduced from £46.99. You can view and buy it here: http://shop.bribartt.co.uk/tibhar-evolution-mx-s.html

      I tested this in Sweden where I’ve been practising for the last week for the upcoming World Championships – I’m feeling good and strong! I brought a couple of sheets out with me on the off chance I might get some time to test it. I tested this rubber for an hour after our session on my spare blade, which is a TIBHAR Samsonov Stratus Carbon. I played with the MX-S on both sides of my blade, with the maximum sponge thickness available.

      When I prepared the rubber I noticed the sponge seemed a little more firm and harder to touch than my MX-P, and the surface of the MX-S was tackier than my MX-P sheets. It is not like a Chinese style extremely tacky surface, but it is tacky all the same and running my finger along the surface provides a fair amount of resistant. It feels like this rubber is going to provide me with a serious amount of spin.

      The first obvious difference between the MX-P that I use and the MX-S is the speed and spin difference. The MX-S is a tiny fraction slower, but the surface is slightly different and the sponge feels harder – but the spin it’s able to generate is really, really heavy when I’m playing my forehand topspin loop to a block. It gives me more spin from mid distance when I’m looping the ball on both my forehand and backhand, through the curve on the ball is not increased – the ball flies in a similar manner to my shots when I use the MX-P, the curve I get is similar but that’s probably more to do with my technique, the angle I hit the ball and my contact, but the spin is definitely a little greater. Remember, when it comes to the technique and contact point we all do this a little differently to each other!

      When I’m serving short with spin, it’s easy to control the ball and keep it short whilst loading the ball up with backspin or topspin. With the MX-S being a little slower than the MX-P, this is an advantage when serving short and then topspin looping the 3rd ball return from my opponents push ball. The high grip rubber top sheet allows me to spin the first ball aggressively.

      When I’m receiving from my opponents serve, the top sheet allows me to touch the ball short easily with a really good amount of back spin. We do this a lot in the matches I play to try to prevent the first strong attack, so this is a really good aspect of the rubber. When I flick, the slightly harder sponge helps me to flick through the ball, and when my opponents serve drifts slightly long I am able to topspin over the table with relative ease as the rubber grips the ball so well.

      Close to the table when my opponent is looping the ball at me, blocking and controlling feels easy. The ball does not sink as much into the sponge (although this is very, very marginal) but I am able to block very well and place the ball as I want to. The main difference is that the sponge makes the ‘feeling’ of the ball different. It’s not any better or worse than the MX-P that I use, but it’s a slightly different type of reaction and feeling that I think some players will really love.

      For speed, I have rated the Evolution MX-S as 9.0. It’s fast, and a very good versatile attacking rubber. The sponge provides good speed and the top sheet is still a Tensor style rubber so the tacky nature does not take away from the speed, but it is a little slower than my MX-P sheets. Away from the table, when I’m playing topspin to topspin the MX-S feels brilliant, I am able to topspin the ball hard and with lots of spin, the arc is not huge but straighter than I expected, but the shot feels very safe and the topspin generated is brilliant.

      For spin, I have rated the Evolution MX-S as 9.8. The amount of spin the top sheet provides is outstanding! It’s tackier than my MX-P sheets, and provides more spin. The ‘bite’ on the ball when I try to spin heavily from my loop shots, serves and receive of service push shots is really heavy. I practised some short sidespin serves with both backspin and topspin, and the kick on the other side table when the ball bounced was really extreme.

      For control, I have rated the MX-S as 9.0. It is similar to my MX-P in this respect, but the feeling is different – it is a different type of rubber for a slightly different type of style so of course this will be the case. It is easy to serve short with spin, easy to receive with and great for blocking and controlling. The control on my attacking topspin shots is similar to my MX-P sheets, but again it just feels like a different reaction on the bat. It is the same control level but different. If you try both of these rubbers, then you will definitely be able to see what I mean by this!

      To sum it up, this rubber is a fantastic choice for those attacking players who love the feeling of a slightly harder sponge and a top sheet that will produce lots of spin. I have played in the past with much harder sponges than this, so compared to those this sponge would still be medium-hard but this is certainly a harder sponge than the MX-P and the top sheet provides more grip. It offers a really good level of control, and a very good balance between the speed it can provide and the spin it generates.

      User stats

      • Speed
           9
      • Spin
           9.8
      • Control
           9
      • Durability
           9
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      Posted 04-09-2015
      5.00 Super grip, easy to use.
      AndySmith Reviews(3)
      • Incredible grip
      • Easy to use
      • Non-bouncy

      • Not the fastest
      • Medium arc
      • Heavy
      Just had my sheet arrive - Black, Max, 73g uncut, 179x168mm (same vital stats as MX-P really) . Cut to 151x156 the weight is 48.88g, which is around the standard for max thickness, hard ESN rubbers these days. Many thanks to Matthias Landfried over at tt-shop.net for the help in getting a sheet sorted!

      This is a different beast to the rest of the Evo range. The sponge is different - smaller-pored, and without the booster smell which was so obvious on the original Evolutions and Bluefire Ms. It's obviously still a hard sponge though. The topsheet is monstrously grippy when you run a finger down it, and reasonably stiff. It feels like the grippiest ESN topsheet I've ever experienced. For comparison, I have a sheet of Omega V Asia here which has a far softer topsheet, less grip to the finger, and feels softer than MX-S overall despite having a harder sponge. I guess it's going to be very stable.


      Once on the blade, MX-S has a hard, definite feel when bouncing a ball, with a dull "thock" sound. It feels fairly fast without feeling overly bouncy. The spin test is the headline news though - massive. Small wrist movement = big reaction on the following bounce.


















      Full-size pics are available here.


      I gave it the full 3 hour treatment last night with Stiga's 40+ seamed ball. It wasn't long enough for a full review because it was more of a coaching session and I didn't play a wide enough range of strokes in the depth I want. I'll be back with a more formal review next week, so I'll just give some rambling comments for now.


      MX-S was on the FH side of my regular Samsonov Pure Wood blade, and on my backup Pure Woods I had Big Dipper and Tenzone Ultra (BH rubbers on all 3 are Airoc M).


      Warm-Up


      I was slightly disappointed for the first 10 minutes. During the initial loop-counterhit warm-up MX-S didn't feel particularly "special" at all (meaning that no overriding quality jumped out at me). It was incredibly stable and easy to use, the arc was medium and nothing dramatic happened. At this point the only thing that jumped out at me was how easy the counterhit was, even against heavy loop. For comparison, I had a higher arc with both BD and TZU on the backup blades, but counterhits and blocks were more difficult.


      Serve, Loop Against Backspin, Loop against Block Exercise


      I then switched to a serve, push long, loop against backspin, block, loop/drive against block, free exercise. This is where MX-S made a lot more sense.


      On the serve, you notice a real lack of bounce. This helps to keep serves short and tight, and also encourages you to add a lot more wrist action, which in turn results in big spin. This is an excellent rubber for serving, and all the associated other short game bits.


      Then the long push comes in, and you loop against backspin. I'm not overstating things here when I say that this is the easiest rubber for lifting backspin that I've ever tried. It absolutely eats pushes and chops alive. I usually have to warm up my backspin-lifting strokes for a few minutes to get my bat angles adjusted after a counterhit warm-up, but not this time. I genuinely didn't miss a single one during the exercise.


      And then the loop/drive against block, which revealed another interesting point. Driving the ball is very easy with MX-S, but it is noticeably slower than hard ESN rubbers from previous generations (MX-P and M1 are the obvious touchstones). You have to generate some power yourself on basic drives or you can offer up an easy ball. There were times when I stepped around to use FH from the BH wing and I ran out of room to get a full stroke in. The drive produced was a bit weak, and the court was obviously totally opened up. You need to be fully committed to get the rewards in this scenario. However, looping the ball against block is easy and very effective. In fact, taking a more Chinese approach and loop-driving more often than not was the most efficient and consistent approach for me in general during the session.


      I stuck with this exercise (and slight variations in placement) for a full hour. I felt that it was giving me a good insight into how MX-S was working. After that we did some matchplay...


      Matchplay


      The qualities I'd seen during the exercises stayed true during the match. Short game was truly great, counter hits and blocks excellent. The FH flick isn't my best shot (needs work), but MX-S seemed good here too, although the lack of extreme arc did mean that I needed to get to the peak of the bounce - there wasn't a lot of leeway if the ball dropped. The main points worth talking about were during open play. Basic topspin drives had a medium arc, and the arc then doesn't change much when you start to load the ball up with topspin. With this comes the ability to disguise the level of topspin to some degree - the arc doesn't give the game away. Adding wrist to a loop brings heavy spin with ease.


      Summary so far


      Positives? Solidity and control - it's very easy to use, predictable, low catapult and linear. Good (but not wild) pace. High spin potential. Zero feeling of slippage with 40+. Super easy to vary spin, depth and placement during loop-loop play. Autopilot when lifting backspin.


      Downsides? The medium arc isn't forgiving of positional problems, so recovery strokes on the run aren't as easy as some rubbers. And it isn't the fastest rubber around, which makes drives a little weaker (although that will be related to my blade choice to some degree - a faster blade will make this less obvious). I'm nitpicking here though.


      User stats

      • Speed
           8
      • Spin
           9.2
      • Control
           9.7
      • Durability
           9
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