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rxng
07-11-2015, 10:38 PM
http://images2.fotop.net/albums2/rxng/blades/IMG_4034_s.jpg

http://images2.fotop.net/albums2/rxng/blades/IMG_4018_s.jpg


Nittaku always produce the best quality balls, the rightest one is the best 40mm celluloid ball I have played.


http://images2.fotop.net/albums2/rxng/blades/IMG_3999_s.jpg


The package


http://images2.fotop.net/albums2/rxng/blades/IMG_4004_s.jpg


http://images2.fotop.net/albums2/rxng/blades/IMG_4008_s.jpg

http://images2.fotop.net/albums2/rxng/blades/IMG_4268_s.jpg

http://images2.fotop.net/albums2/rxng/blades/IMG_4390_s.jpg

Reaper
07-11-2015, 10:43 PM
but they're the most expensive and hard to get, isn't?

Baal
07-12-2015, 12:58 AM
I like them too but if you can't obtain them reliably the fact that they are good is almost irrelevant.

Tinykin
07-12-2015, 03:46 AM
I like them too but if you can't obtain them reliably the fact that they are good is almost irrelevant.

Plus
The ball to use and practice with is the ball you will use in competition.
Here, most likely, the tournaments and national leagues will use Butterfly and Joola as they are the main sponsors.
Nittaku and XSF will probably be used in some team matches at local league and for general practice.
But you never know....

JHB
07-12-2015, 02:31 PM
As Baal said, so what ? They're unobtainable across large parts of the world so the quality hardly matters.

Kaizoku
07-12-2015, 05:43 PM
Man, I really dig your Quality photos. Saw your pictures on "Share your racket" too.
Do you have a page for all of them? If not you should make a tumblr or something similar, to share them all at one page :L

EDIT: I just saw your other thread now! ( http://fotop.net/rxng/cntt ) at ->
http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?10871-Hello-!!!

I guess I should have looked before asking. :L

Baal
07-12-2015, 09:55 PM
I have been hoarding my supply of Nittaku Premium 40+ but used my last ones today. It will be weeks before I can get more. So back to XSF.

Agree with the others who say those are really good photos!

rxng
07-15-2015, 08:28 AM
but they're the most expensive and hard to get, isn't?
Hong Kong has only a few local stores that selling this balls,
it is difficult to get from local store too!

rxng
07-15-2015, 08:33 AM
Man, I really dig your Quality photos. Saw your pictures on "Share your racket" too.
Do you have a page for all of them? If not you should make a tumblr or something similar, to share them all at one page :L

EDIT: I just saw your other thread now! ( http://fotop.net/rxng/cntt ) at ->
http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?10871-Hello-!!!

I guess I should have looked before asking. :L
Hello Kalzoku,

Thanks. I love to investigate the pro's equipment and I think their equipment pictures are interesting, therefore I started to collect and sort out the photos from the Internet ten years ago. On the other hand, I am an amateur photographer and love to take the pictures of table tennis equipment, maybe I should establish a page e.g. flickr to place my equipment pictures.

Kaizoku
07-15-2015, 10:09 AM
Hello Kalzoku,

Thanks. I love to investigate the pro's equipment and I think their equipment pictures are interesting, therefore I started to collect and sort out the photos from the Internet ten years ago. On the other hand, I am an amateur photographer and love to take the pictures of table tennis equipment, maybe I should establish a page e.g. flickr to place my equipment pictures.
That would be awesome! Maybe sort the pictures with estimated date taggs as well. (+English translation) although I Personally do fine with Google translate lolz.
Well up to you :L it's good as now Anyhow, only category sorting, page design and info can be improoved a bit.

HappySpinner
07-15-2015, 07:44 PM
Good only when you have it... I miss the good ol days that when you need the best Nittaku balls you just have to go to sports house. Now the Nittaku premium is nowhere to be found, we still have to pay $40 shipping just to obtain it. Well thank god for xsf... Awesome photos!

Sent from my MI 3W using Tapatalk

CroneOne
07-15-2015, 11:08 PM
I've been reading that the Stag Peter Karlsson 40+ balls are supposed to
be great but I can't find many places other than teessport.com selling
them.
Also their warning doesn't inspire much confidence.....

"PLEASE NOTE: BY THE NATURE OF THE MATERIAL, PLASTIC BALLS WILL NOT USUALLY LAST AS LONG AS MOST CELLULOID BALLS ON THE MARKET"

TT4Life
07-15-2015, 11:28 PM
If u practice or train you can use 2 stars for it. Save 3 stars Nittaku for bigger matches or something more important :)

Baal
07-16-2015, 12:23 AM
I've been reading that the Stag Peter Karlsson 40+ balls are supposed to
be great but I can't find many places other than teessport.com selling
them.
Also their warning doesn't inspire much confidence.....

"PLEASE NOTE: BY THE NATURE OF THE MATERIAL, PLASTIC BALLS WILL NOT USUALLY LAST AS LONG AS MOST CELLULOID BALLS ON THE MARKET"

The Stag is a standard seamless ball made by XSF/Palio. As such it is very durable more than any other type of plastic ball and comparable or superior to celluloid. It will also have a nice high bounce. They can occasionally break when hit on a sharp edge. I have a year's experience with various seamless balls and so have a large sample size on which to base that judgment.

Tinykin
07-16-2015, 06:21 AM
I've long ago realised that cheap practice balls are only good for recreational TT and multiball where you are doing a footwork exercise. For other TT training use the best 3 star product.

rxng
08-27-2015, 02:34 PM
Updated (20150827) with some pictures just took!
I took these pictures refer to few questions asked by an Internet forum member.
Nittaku Premium is really "Unique" in the back light test.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/763/20739393969_6e8a3d56c6_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/xAEPh6)IMG_1222+s (https://flic.kr/p/xAEPh6) by Rx NG (https://www.flickr.com/photos/rxngtabletennis/), ? Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5620/20916433022_8c592830ee_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/xSjbPy)IMG_1223+s (https://flic.kr/p/xSjbPy) by Rx NG (https://www.flickr.com/photos/rxngtabletennis/), ? Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/589/20916433092_19d040eb98_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/xSjbQL)IMG_1224+s (https://flic.kr/p/xSjbQL) by Rx NG (https://www.flickr.com/photos/rxngtabletennis/), ? Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/571/20916433052_0d34447c49_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/xSjbQ5)IMG_1226+s (https://flic.kr/p/xSjbQ5) by Rx NG (https://www.flickr.com/photos/rxngtabletennis/), ? Flickr

TTHopeful
08-28-2015, 02:24 PM
Updated (20150827) with some pictures just took!
I took these pictures refer to few questions asked by an Internet forum member.
Nittaku Premium is really "Unique" in the back light test.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/763/20739393969_6e8a3d56c6_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/xAEPh6)IMG_1222+s (https://flic.kr/p/xAEPh6) by Rx NG (https://www.flickr.com/photos/rxngtabletennis/), ? Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5620/20916433022_8c592830ee_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/xSjbPy)IMG_1223+s (https://flic.kr/p/xSjbPy) by Rx NG (https://www.flickr.com/photos/rxngtabletennis/), ? Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/589/20916433092_19d040eb98_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/xSjbQL)IMG_1224+s (https://flic.kr/p/xSjbQL) by Rx NG (https://www.flickr.com/photos/rxngtabletennis/), ? Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/571/20916433052_0d34447c49_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/xSjbQ5)IMG_1226+s (https://flic.kr/p/xSjbQ5) by Rx NG (https://www.flickr.com/photos/rxngtabletennis/), ? Flickr

Nice! What camera do you use? In your opinion what's the best plastic ball you have used?

Kaizoku
08-28-2015, 02:53 PM
Nice! What camera do you use? In your opinion what's the best plastic ball you have used?

I was wondering about that first question too, and, are you going to add the older pictures (that were not originally yours) to a folder? + Would you be interested in receiving pictures from others for your own using? Considering they'd be of worthy quality ofc.
Because I think you need a Hurricane Hao III in your collection. :rolleyes:

rxng
08-28-2015, 04:49 PM
Nice! What camera do you use? In your opinion what's the best plastic ball you have used?
Hi TTHopeful, I use Canon EOS 5D Mark III.
IMHO, I didn't try all the plastic balls, but I like the Nittaku Premium MIJ the most.

rxng
08-28-2015, 04:58 PM
I was wondering about that first question too, and, are you going to add the older pictures (that were not originally yours) to a folder? + Would you be interested in receiving pictures from others for your own using? Considering they'd be of worthy quality ofc.
Because I think you need a Hurricane Hao III in your collection. :rolleyes:
Hi Kaizoku, I setup that flickr page for my own personal photos only, it would be welcome if others can share their works with their page too! :D Actually I am adding more and more photos soon. I do not own HH3, but my friend got an old version of HH. At that time I was using Penholder. :p (HH belongs to my friend and the "Fake" OC belongs to me.)

http://images2.fotop.net/albums2/rxng/blades/IMG_8726.jpg (http://www.fotop.net/rxng/blades/IMG_8726)

http://images2.fotop.net/albums2/rxng/blades/IMG_8717.jpg (http://www.fotop.net/rxng/blades/IMG_8717)

http://images2.fotop.net/albums2/rxng/blades/IMG_8714.jpg (http://www.fotop.net/rxng/blades/IMG_8714)

http://images2.fotop.net/albums2/rxng/blades/IMG_8709.jpg (http://www.fotop.net/rxng/blades/IMG_8709)

http://images2.fotop.net/albums2/rxng/blades/IMG_8712.jpg (http://www.fotop.net/rxng/blades/IMG_8712)

igorponger
08-28-2018, 06:59 PM
http://ttnpp.com/store/1578-large_default/xushaofa-g40-new-seamless-table-tennis-ball-3-stars-ittf.jpg

XuShaofa newest product, seamless, very special plastic unlike to ABS.
http://ttnpp.com/store/home/918-xushaofa-g40-new-seamless-table-tennis-ball-3-stars-ittf-39.html

langel
08-28-2018, 08:03 PM
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/cache.php?img=http%3A%2F%2Fttnpp.com%2Fstore%2F1578-large_default%2Fxushaofa-g40-new-seamless-table-tennis-ball-3-stars-ittf.jpg

XuShaofa newest product, seamless, very special plastic unlike to ABS.
http://ttnpp.com/store/home/918-xushaofa-g40-new-seamless-table-tennis-ball-3-stars-ittf-39.html

I like very much the seamless balls of the Minkow factory /its the only one to produce seamless balls/ because of their consistency, long lifetime and the best spin amongst all plastics. This new seamless is ment to bring back the real sense of the lost in plastics spin. Thumbs up and waiting for it.

Nate4s
08-28-2018, 11:48 PM
I've played with some of the new Xushaofa seamless balls, and like them quite a bit. The club I was playing at has tons of the nittaku's, and I think those are nice too. I think my favorite so far is the butterflyl G40+, which has a nice crisp sound and a great bounce.

On a related note: I just picked up some DHS D40+ orange balls from AliExpress - I hope they're decent balls! Anyone have any experience with them?

tropical
08-29-2018, 12:25 AM
Nittaku Premium is still the best!

Loopadoop
08-29-2018, 04:08 AM
The question of best ball should consider other factors if playability is similar and acceptable.

How long does the ball play in new like condition ? 5-10 hours or longer ?

How much does it cost ? is there a major difference between good balls ?

Is cost and durability an issue for use as a training ball ?

How many tournaments in your area use the ball ? You do need to train with the same balls.

JHB
08-29-2018, 05:28 PM
Nittaku Premium is still the best!

The Nittaku Premium is great when it's new, but it does seem to go shiny quite quickly. Excellent for match play but if you like to play practise (or social) games with used 3-star balls you may prefer something which stays matt for longer, like the Xushaofa or the Joola Flash.

Baal
08-30-2018, 01:14 AM
Nittaku Premium is still the best!

True. Nothing about that has changed since they came out.

I am not enthusiastic about yet another type of plastic we would need to get used to.

laistrogian
08-30-2018, 01:09 PM
I’ve stopped using them for months now. Too expensive for casual play and it will break rather quickly.

yogi_bear
08-31-2018, 12:41 PM
Tibhar, Stiga, Xiom, Sanwei polyballs are good too and much cheaper.

igorponger
08-31-2018, 08:39 PM
SHINY BALLS ARE SOME CRAP UNPLAYABLE.

I used to swap balls every other playing session, just for not liking those shiny balls.
We have now ultimately decided on the DHS D40+, mainly for economical reason. I can now get D40+ ITTF *** at 0.65 a piece. It is the most affordable plastic available from CHINA. The ball of decent quality.

nemezis
12-07-2018, 07:58 AM
All plastic balls are crap,and very bad,professional coaches and top players say,but the best dhs d40+,after nittaku premium 40+,and butterfly g40+.The playing characters closer to the old celluloid ball dhs d40+.and nittaku premium 40+.
Much different but these are closer than others shit.No any good players or any tournament use xfs and other shit.

langel
12-07-2018, 08:22 AM
All plastic balls are crap,and very bad,professional coaches and top players say,but the best dhs d40+,after nittaku premium 40+,and butterfly g40+.The playing characters closer to the old celluloid ball dhs d40+.and nittaku premium 40+.
Much different but these are closer than others shit.No any good players or any tournament use xfs and other shit.

Everyone has the right to express freely his thoughts and feelings.
But the way he does it do matter.
The way you do it is very rude and blatant and is not appropriate for an open forum community.
Please mind your manner.

yogi_bear
12-07-2018, 08:59 AM
I would rather buy new abs balls that are cheaper because you could buy several balls.for the price of the nittaku premium which in turn lasts longer for your same amount of money spent.

thomas.pong
12-07-2018, 10:58 AM
Got my club to switch from G40+ to D40+ 3* for both training and competition, better balls and the club is saving money so everyone's happy.

anchorschmidt
12-07-2018, 12:23 PM
I've grown to actually like the Joola Flash balls.quality is pretty consistent.

JST
12-07-2018, 04:45 PM
Got my club to switch from G40+ to D40+ 3* for both training and competition, better balls and the club is saving money so everyone's happy.

Same with my club. Very good impressions after half of the season, we train and play with the same 3* balls and we spend slightly less than we paid when cracking 100 1* training balls + 100 3* Stiga Optimum balls for co,petition (both dying regularly when hitting racket edges or the walls).


I've grown to actually like the Joola Flash balls.quality is pretty consistent.

I plaid only few times competition matches with Joola Flash in our district but they were cracking very much like older Stiga and DHS DualCell balls...

igorponger
12-08-2018, 01:42 PM
LOOKING FOR A SPINNY BALL ??? GIVE A TRY TO THIS "YELLOW STAR" PRODUCT.

Please take note of the sign YELLOW STAR on the box . It is an impoved version of the regular V40+ (without a star on the box).
The ball was intentionally re-designed for international events. The ball had been used at World Cup London 2018.
http://mytabletennis.net/forum/uploads/14298/v40_new.jpg


0.70 USD per one , AliExpress store.

Be happy.

RidTheKid
12-08-2018, 04:56 PM
Terrible ball with much inconsistency. Poor QC most definitely. I'd stick with the DHS 40+.


THE BEST SPINNY BALL EVER ...

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/cache.php?img=http%3A%2F%2Fmytabletennis.net%2Fforum%2Fuploads%2F14298%2Fv40_new.jpg
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/cache.php?img=http%3A%2F%2Fmytabletennis.net%2Fforum%2Fuploads%2F14298%2Fv40_regular.jpg
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/cache.php?img=http%3A%2F%2Fmytabletennis.net%2Fforum%2Fuploads%2F14298%2Fv40_compared.jpg

Designed for international events exclusively. 0
0.70 USD per one , AliExpress store.

Be happy.

PawelTableTennis
12-08-2018, 07:23 PM
In Poland very popular ball is Tibhar SYNTT NG. I use Nittaku Premium they are expensive but very good. I think this Syntt NG from Tibhar are better and cheaper than Nittaku. 17991

JST
12-08-2018, 07:50 PM
In Poland very popular ball is Tibhar SYNTT NG. I use Nittaku Premium they are expensive but very good. I think this Syntt NG from Tibhar are better and cheaper than Nittaku. 17991

Any comparison with other 2nd generation plastic balls like D40+ or V40+?

PawelTableTennis
12-08-2018, 08:13 PM
In Poland Double Fish is very low popular. DHS are little more popular than Double Fish but still not very popular in use. The most popular in Poland are Butterfly G, Tibhar Syntt NG and Andro 3S.

Simas
12-10-2018, 11:55 AM
read a couple of old posts in this thread about the shiny balls.
As said above, Nittaku shiny balls are much more common than other balls (and I still remember how shinny Nittaku celluloid balls were..)

Does anyone have more knowledge about this phenomena? I think it wouldn't be safe to presume that this shininess comes from the ball being "polished" by encountering multiple spiny brush contacts with the rubbers?

So the question then is Nittaku ball surface different and not as resistant as other manufacturers or the balls are so good, that they last so long without breaking that they get polished before they get broken?