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chrisleon
08-11-2015, 06:41 AM
hello all.

i'm looking forward on getting 40+ training balls, i used DHS celluloid 1 star to train and i really like it but with the new plastic balls the quality of (40+) DHS 1 star decrease and i didn't like it, i also try xushaofa 1 star (40+) and they were horrible, has anyone try any other training ball, i been looking around and i found a couple on tabletennis11, can anyone give me some feedback on the following balls. thanks

1.Nittaku Training 40+ 100pcs (http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/nittaku-training-40-100pcs)
2.Donic 40+ coach 120pcs white
3. (http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/donic-40-coach-120pcs-white)Kinson 40+ 1 Stars Plastic Ball
(http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/donic-40-coach-120pcs-white)

Cobalt765
08-11-2015, 10:19 AM
I attended a 2 hour clinic with Donic coach, had to check afterward that they were actually 40+ as i didn't notice and the only 1 that broke was the one i stepped on.

That was just one session though and my focus wasnt really on the ball but overall i thought pretty good.

Der_Echte
08-11-2015, 10:53 AM
The 40+ 1 Star balls are eggs, take Ur pick.

TT4Life
08-11-2015, 11:24 AM
I have been using the TSP 40+ 1 star for multi balls training about a month , its pretty damn good. i ordered about 300 balls , we stepped on about 10 of them so far.

Suga D
08-11-2015, 11:25 AM
Well i had the luck to try the new butterfly easy ball and no roundness problems appeared, the durability also seems to be ok so far. I've wrote an early review here:
http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/equipment/balls/10554-easy-ball-40

Can't say anything 'bout the balls you wrote about though.

chrisleon
08-12-2015, 07:22 AM
Any links where I can buy the tsp 40+ 1 star or the butterfly easy ball?

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TT4Life
08-12-2015, 09:08 AM
TTjapan, not sure they have them now its was sold out when i got 5 boxes of 60 balls.

Suga D
08-12-2015, 09:12 AM
Any links where I can buy the tsp 40+ 1 star or the butterfly easy ball?

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Here you go:
http://de.butterfly.tt/easy-ball-40-120er-box.html

chrisleon
08-17-2015, 10:09 PM
Thank you all for the information

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passifid
08-17-2015, 10:43 PM
Buttryfly only one I've tried. Muuuch more bounce and a bit less spin then celly but mostly as round as 2 star celluloid from my 6 (vs stiga winner) plays well and has survived 2 or 3 hours of proper play and 10 hours of beginer hard bat

Baal
08-18-2015, 02:43 AM
I would say just go with XSF 3* They are not that expensive and very durable and play well enough for all sorts of purposes. I bought some Nittaku Japan 40+ ** (two star) and they are actually not bad at all, but cost more than *** XSF.

mquevedof
08-18-2015, 02:54 AM
I bought Nitaku 3* didn't like them. They break pretty easily. Bounce is pretty lazy compared to poly boll.

I like XuShaoFa 3* bounce is more like poly ball, very durable, does not deteriorate over time. [emoji2]


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c4runner
08-18-2015, 03:22 PM
I've been practicing with Kinson * 40+ ball since February or January and I think it is the best choice for money that they cost. I've already bought ~15 packs for me, my trainer and for the people whom I know :D
You'll get 72 balls for 25$ +8$ (delivery) hxxp://ttnpp.com/store/ball/768-kinson-40-1-stars-plastic-ball-72pcs-39.html
An other choice is double fish * 40+ hxxp://ttnpp.com/store/ball/796-double-fish-new-cellulose-acetate-material-40-1-stars-ball-x-120-39.html
60$ for 120 balls and delivery is free!
these balls are very similar, I suppose that kinson is simply double fish with an other print :)

chrisleon
08-19-2015, 08:58 AM
How is the roundiness of the kinston ball, I bought 200 xashoufa 1 star and they were horrible, mostly egg shape

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c4runner
08-19-2015, 06:40 PM
well.. they are not as perfectly round as 3 star balls like donic, however the roundiness of some 1 start kinson balls from the pack might even be compared with yasaka 40+ 3star. anyway they are much better then 1stat xushaofa crap.

cmhtbx
08-22-2016, 09:29 PM
I am looking for some good quality not too expensive balls for Multi balls training probably need 300 balls. any recommendation and update on this post? thanks

shinhyun
08-23-2016, 12:49 PM
I bought xsf 3* polyball : there is 6 balls, I ve played with the first one very long time before losing it, the second I give it to a friend, the third and fourth broke when I played with them easily and quickly (hit the edge of the blade once or twice, no mercy)... So I dont know what to think about them... They seem very durable if you hit well but they dont forgive your mistake.

cmhtbx
08-23-2016, 03:06 PM
I bought xsf 3* polyball : there is 6 balls, I ve played with the first one very long time before losing it, the second I give it to a friend, the third and fourth broke when I played with them easily and quickly (hit the edge of the blade once or twice, no mercy)... So I dont know what to think about them... They seem very durable if you hit well but they dont forgive your mistake.

xsf 3* should be really good quality balls(not sure about the xsf non 3* training balls), I am looking for 300+ balls for multi ball training, getting all 300 balls 3* might be a little bit expensive? any recomendation?

Smacktooth
08-23-2016, 06:44 PM
I've been using the GAMBLER 40+ POLY MULTI & ROBOT BALLS for a couple months in my robot and they've been just fine. $21 for 72. Not sure about getting them outside US though.

ttmonster
08-23-2016, 08:23 PM
On the same lines, has anybody used the Nittaku J-top plastic balls made in Japan ? Any feedback ...

CroneOne
11-29-2016, 11:25 PM
On the same lines, has anybody used the Nittaku J-top plastic balls made in Japan ? Any feedback ...

Have a look at this video.


http://www.samsondubina.com/equipment/3-types-balls

I've ordered a box of Jtops from Paddle Palace. Just waiting on them. Apparently they are a favorite over there.

ttmonster
11-29-2016, 11:42 PM
Actually, after my post one of my friends who is a coach for kids wanted to get the box of plastic J Tops . I got it for him and had the chance to play with one for a while. It felt pretty decent although a little slower than the regular one ...

Have a look at this video.


http://www.samsondubina.com/equipment/3-types-balls

I've ordered a box of Jtops from Paddle Palace. Just waiting on them. Apparently they are a favorite over there.

TT4Life
11-30-2016, 12:32 AM
Just added my new training ball japan 1 star nittaku its very good , its just like the nittakue 3 star premium 40+ ,

HairF1
11-30-2016, 02:09 AM
I know it is not on the list but I would suggest Tibhar basic seamless. The best one I have tried.

Raylazyfo
11-30-2016, 07:12 AM
yeah they have a really inconsistent bounce and sometimes dont bounce at all.
I would go with two star for training

TareqPhoto
11-30-2016, 08:09 AM
I've got celly balls already and trying to use them as much as i can until i can afford some good poly balls for training, the post here showing me that it is just like gambling or matter of luck, i may get good or bad packs, so should i wait longer or i just go with whatever and accept its results?

There is a brand i keep coming a lot to it, it is calls Schildkrot, but i did added that DHS Dual 1* for order, sounds i may give this a try first because it is cheap, 100 balls for less than $40 is a deal, if it didn't work fine then i just simply move on to another model.

CroneOne
12-06-2016, 07:40 AM
I received my Nittaku Jtops from Paddle Palace. As I expected they are top quality.

11540

I had a go with the Robopong on random oscillation to practice my footwork and ready position reset speed. (Tiring after
4 buckets!).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGqARAPV0YA

The ball is great. It has the same weight and hardness of the 3 star premium. The bounce is predictable and none of that slippy, sliding wobble that I've had with other training balls. If you make mistakes, it's you not the ball. Is Nittaku the only one who said "right, here's the celluloid ball we're replacing. We won't stop the process until our ball has all of the quality of the old ball?"

Any way. Great job Nittaku. If you play with the N40+ normally in play and tournaments, this ball is a great ball for you.

TareqPhoto
12-06-2016, 09:18 AM
Thank you very much!

I hope those balls will be in stock from the online store i buy from, i don't use Paddle Palace.

CroneOne
12-10-2016, 08:12 AM
Interesting. TT11 now offers a ball testing pack.
Test out all the 40+ balls (including training balls) to see which one's characteristics you like the most.

http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/catalogsearch/result/?q=comparison+pack

TareqPhoto
12-10-2016, 10:41 AM
Interesting. TT11 now offers a ball testing pack.
Test out all the 40+ balls (including training balls) to see which one's characteristics you like the most.

http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/catalogsearch/result/?q=comparison+pack

Wish i knew about it before i placed the order weeks ago, now i have to wait for next order to be placed sooner or later and i already included this in the cart for next, so i hope it will be in stock until the time i order it.

Paw
12-12-2016, 10:22 PM
In our club we are using Kingnik * , xushaofa * and Yinhe * & **. Not big difference between them. Probably only price :)
Like Tareqphoto said some bags might be good or bad. But if you are looking for multi-balls or robot, they are ok.

Musaab
12-13-2016, 09:38 AM
Donic coach is fun to play with, but we destroyed most of the balls in a very short period

TareqPhoto
12-13-2016, 07:29 PM
Hearing or reading those kind of things about PBalls making us [or just me] panic a lot about what to buy then.

I feel it is all coming to the price/cost, if we can't afford the top quality balls then we are just dreaming or wishing those cheaper ones doing fine for us for long time.

I may able to buy those top quality balls sooner or later, but many times i think why bother if they are for training only and i may not feel the big difference after all, so just because it is more durable and bouncing better doesn't justify it to be about 2x-4x the price of cheaper one, that if they are really that much higher quality and longer durability and really noticeable perfect bounce.

And as i said in another thread, i am hoping to see more of those 2* 40+ balls, they are not ultimate premium quality maybe, but aren't they supposed to be better than 1* balls anyway?!!! Waiting and fingers crossing.

jozev2
12-14-2016, 07:43 PM
Best training balls are from JOOLA. JOOLA practise....

Baal
12-14-2016, 08:12 PM
I would honestly suggest using 3* seamless balls for training. Find the cheapest ones you can get, maybe Kingnik or something like that. They are pretty durable and playable. 1* seamless are really bad. And the cheapest 3* seamless may not be much more expensive than some of the Nittaku Japan practice balls.

Tony's Table Tennis
12-14-2016, 08:55 PM
i'm quite happy with my Gewo 2 star

I have seen some terrible 1 star eggs (lucky they are my brands from my shop), I use Yasaka 1 Star for my training too and so far so good.
Just landed Andro 1 star polyS ones, my clients has good feedback.
I will also take few boxes to try out.

I have to note, my students are kids, so the ball tends to last longer due to the "lack of power" :)

gmiller2233
01-10-2017, 02:50 PM
I got a deal on 144 joola Magic training ball 144 for $50 or something. Fine training/ robot ball. you can feel it's light, but hard, less speed, bit less spin bounce is a bit lower. Quite durable, pretty round have only noticed two or three not being round could be a bit heavier. I have a friend that just got the kinson I think there a good training ball too. Of course they don't compare nitaku three star these are training balls.


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yuri.saldon
01-10-2017, 04:33 PM
What about dhs dual?

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