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rxng
08-12-2015, 03:37 AM
Maybe his main blade (with STIGA color handle) got some problems, therefore he switches to this backup blade.

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Photo source: flickr.com/photos/ittfworld/

UpSideDownCarl
08-12-2015, 03:50 AM
Great find. Thank you.

Not much question then, that his "Stiga Infinity" is a Viscaria.

Wonder if he is about to switch from Stiga to Butterfly and abandon the rise of pretending to use a Stiga blade.


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rxng
08-12-2015, 03:55 AM
Actually few years ago he was using Viscaria FL, after he signed with STIGA, he uses the "Special Blade" until now.

Below is a picture of Fan Zhendong using Viscaria @ 2012

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Photo source: https://www.flickr.com/photos/111628979@N08/11432010743/in/photolist-iqd3vv-iqckD1-iqceHz-qJh4Ld-iqcvJU-iqcfQz-iqctG7-iqctTQ-iqcnkY-iqciuT-iqcgEa-iqciLp-iqcys9-iqd3rn-iqcgw4-iqd7qe-iqd1Sa-iqd1YH-iqcsU5-iqcd54-iqd4rD-iqcvvC-iqcwBq-iqciEc-iqciYh-iqd6Tn-iqcoLo-iqco8j-iqckKU-eMJw5J-qTDWnW-pejMkS-nAodpd-rzbCRd-peq1ki-peqfU9-pvxkGg-eM3qoy-pd6SwK-qTMbH4-eLR3ug-pejMjj-uY43bq-pvxkPk-vitrFc-pekmnb-nTr8nf-wMVA5s-qEty2L-qVrhRW

UpSideDownCarl
08-12-2015, 04:38 AM
Actually few years ago he was using Viscaria FL, after he signed with STIGA, he uses the "Special Blade" until now.

Below is a picture of Fan Zhendong using Viscaria @ 2012
http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7917&d=1439369950

Yep. Special blade = Viscaria with Stiga handle added, even if the Viscaria he is using is made to his specifications and therefore special as well.

rajd1234
08-12-2015, 05:27 AM
Quite a blow to Stiga.

krro
08-12-2015, 01:45 PM
I don't mind what blade he use but is it really legal for a company to claim something like Fan Zhendong use Stiga blade when he obviously don't use Stiga at all?

Liten
08-12-2015, 01:59 PM
Maybe his main blade (with STIGA color handle) got some problems, therefore he switches to this backup blade.

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Photo source: flickr.com/photos/ittfworld/

Is that the sponge thickness the chinese pro's use on that blue sponge DHS rubber? The BH sponge looks much thicker?

UpSideDownCarl
08-12-2015, 04:14 PM
I don't mind what blade he use but is it really legal for a company to claim something like Fan Zhendong use Stiga blade when he obviously don't use Stiga at all?

Is it against the law? I don't think there is any country where that is against the law. It is also a hard thing to have a law about. FZD is from China, Stiga is from Sweden. If it was against the law in one or even many countries, how would those laws have any impact on countries where they don't have those same laws.

However, it is unethical. And, in my opinion, it makes both Stiga and FZD look bad. I don't think there are any winners from that scenario. Stiga knows FZD is not using any Stiga equipment. I think that makes them look like fools. Everyone knows FZD is not using the blade he is pretending to use. That makes him look bad because he is lying and perhaps he comes off as greedy or unethical.

But I don't really think they can makes laws about something like that.

This is just false advertising. But is surely makes Stiga and Fan Zhendong look bad.


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UpSideDownCarl
08-12-2015, 04:16 PM
Is that the sponge thickness the chinese pro's use on that blue sponge DHS rubber? The BH sponge looks much thicker?

That is just the angle of the racket in the photo. The two rubbers are actually pretty much the same thickness.


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Liten
08-12-2015, 04:30 PM
Is it against the law? I don't think there is any country where that is against the law. It is also a hard thing to have a law about. FZD is from China, Stiga is from Sweden. If it was against the law in one or even many countries, how would those laws have any impact on countries where they don't have those same laws.

However, it is unethical. And, in my opinion, it makes both Stiga and FZD look bad. I don't think there are any winners from that scenario. Stiga knows FZD is not using any Stiga equipment. I think that makes them look like fools. Everyone knows FZD is not using the blade he is pretending to use. That makes him look bad because he is lying and perhaps he comes off as greedy or unethical.

But I don't really think they can makes laws about something like that.

This is just false advertising. But is surely makes Stiga and Fan Zhendong look bad.


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Why not just strike the deal with Butterfly? I bet they'd love to have him on their "team"?

About the rubbers:
Looks pretty thick! Boost galore perhaps? :D

Reaper
08-12-2015, 04:34 PM
However, it is unethical. And, in my opinion, it makes both Stiga and FZD look bad. I don't think there are any winners from that scenario. Stiga knows FZD is not using any Stiga equipment. I think that makes them look like fools. Everyone knows FZD is not using the blade he is pretending to use. That makes him look bad because he is lying and perhaps he comes off as greedy or unethical.

This is just false advertising. But is surely makes Stiga and Fan Zhendong look bad.


I completely agree, but IMO this also applies for other players that doesn't use their own brand, like ZJK, I mean his name is on the most expensive BTY blades and yet he uses viscaria.

That viscaria blade is truly mythical

Liten
08-12-2015, 04:42 PM
Does butterfly still produce the taksim? (Penhold version)

aerial
08-12-2015, 05:42 PM
He must have broke his old blade when he clipped the table on the follow through swing from a smash against Xu Xin in the 2015 Japan Open hehe...

UpSideDownCarl
08-12-2015, 06:55 PM
Why not just strike the deal with Butterfly? I bet they'd love to have him on their "team"?

About the rubbers:
Looks pretty thick! Boost galore perhaps? :D

That is the million dollar question but the million dollars may be the reason he is with Stiga. Hahaha.

As far as boosting. They all do boost. But you are still just looking at the zoom lens photo and the funny angle. If you saw the blade laying on the table it would look like all CNT player blades when sitting on the table. You have seen that before. It is not enough to see by just a look from a camera.


I completely agree, but IMO this also applies for other players that doesn't use their own brand, like ZJK, I mean his name is on the most expensive BTY blades and yet he uses viscaria.

That viscaria blade is truly mythical

Agree. I think there is too much of that nonsense in TT. That goes for Dima using a Clipper with a Donic handle and Tenergy rubbers as well. It also goes for how most of the pros have blades made custom to their own specs. Why wouldn't they make the model with the pros name on it with those same custom specs?

TT equipment is a bit ridiculous in that way. That is why I like OSP. I can just get them to make my blades to my own custom specs. They have been great in doing that for me while making me quality hand made all wood blades.

The blade I am now using is definitely 100% perfect for me.



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NextLevel
08-12-2015, 07:08 PM
TT equipment is a bit ridiculous in that way. That is why I like OSP. I can just get them to make my blades to my own custom specs. They have been great in doing that for me while making me quality hand made all wood blades.

The blade I am now using is definitely 100% perfect for me.





So why is there a Nexy blade in your signature? Doing some advertising for NexyUSA, are you Carl? The goon squad is coming for you if you are not using that blade and it is in your equipment along with the perfect blade for you...

Gangarth
08-12-2015, 08:58 PM
Maybe FZD is using different blades against different opponents!?

raazzz
08-12-2015, 10:12 PM
Pretty common for the pros to use other brands product so it's not only Fan Zhendong. Like Carl wrote Dima is using both a Stiga Clipper and Tenergy even if he is Donic sponsored. I can not really understand why they just can't get used to their own brands equipment, but I guess many pros are very meticulous with their equipment. Did Fan Zhendong use the Viscaria before he got sponsored by Stiga?

UpSideDownCarl
08-12-2015, 11:15 PM
So why is there a Nexy blade in your signature? Doing some advertising for NexyUSA, are you Carl? The goon squad is coming for you if you are not using that blade and it is in your equipment along with the perfect blade for you...

I really like that Peter Pan blade too. It is awesome. Great feel. I actually like the Tibhar (Nexy) Kim Jung Hoon blade even more than the Peter Pan blade.

But the OSP blade is in my signature too and that one I can't stop using. So, in a sense I am advertising for OSP too!


Maybe FZD is using different blades against different opponents!?

Nah! He is actually always using a Viscaria. The blade that has a Stiga Infinity handle is also a Viscaria. It is well researched.


Did Fan Zhendong use the Viscaria before he got sponsored by Stiga?

Yep. That is what he used as a junior and he never actually changed it. He has just been using a Viscaria with an Infinity handle. It is pretty well documented. Pretty sure Stiga knows.

Now as for me, I am actually using a Virtuoso with a Nexy handle and a Peter Pan with an OSP handle.



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raazzz
08-13-2015, 07:59 PM
I first thought Fan Zhendong would start use the Carbonado 190 blade as me, haven't he read my review??? ;)

Zaid323918
02-16-2017, 02:36 PM
No I guess not. According to Stiga he is using it though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaAxj8PKOuw
See the video at 4:50 onwards

Baal
02-16-2017, 03:00 PM
I dont know if this is still true or if it was ever true for guys in the world top 5 but ordinary pros get about the worst possible financial deal with Btfly and can do better with pretty much any other major company. Problem is they often like Btfly stuff the best so they have to make a hard choice. It also could be that CNT wants players to have deals with all three of the biggest companies, Btfly, Stiga, and DHS.

Baal
02-16-2017, 03:02 PM
I don't mind what blade he use but is it really legal for a company to claim something like Fan Zhendong use Stiga blade when he obviously don't use Stiga at all?

Legal where? Enforced by whom?

Baal
02-16-2017, 03:04 PM
I don't mind what blade he use but is it really legal for a company to claim something like Fan Zhendong use Stiga blade when he obviously don't use Stiga at all?


Does butterfly still produce the taksim? (Penhold version)

No. Also Taksim was a penhold Iolite, not a Viscaria.

Fabian
02-16-2017, 03:53 PM
well it's an even better ad, when a player, who is sponsored by another company, is using your product anyway and people like us see that ;)

he uses it because he thinks he plays better with it, not because he gets money for doing so. :)

Zaid323918
02-16-2017, 03:55 PM
well it's an even better ad, when a player, who is sponsored by another company, is using your product anyway and people like us see that ;)

he uses it because he thinks he plays better with it, not because he gets money for doing so. :)

Obviously, he used Viscaria for sure when he was a junior.

UpSideDownCarl
02-16-2017, 08:27 PM
Obviously, he used Viscaria for sure when he was a junior.

Obviously he uses Viscaria for sure every time his main racket breaks and he is out of the ones with the Infinity handle.


Maybe his main blade (with STIGA color handle) got some problems, therefore he switches to this backup blade.

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Photo source: flickr.com/photos/ittfworld/


Actually few years ago he was using Viscaria FL, after he signed with STIGA, he uses the "Special Blade" until now.

Below is a picture of Fan Zhendong using Viscaria @ 2012

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Photo source: https://www.flickr.com/photos/111628979@N08/11432010743/in/photolist-iqd3vv-iqckD1-iqceHz-qJh4Ld-iqcvJU-iqcfQz-iqctG7-iqctTQ-iqcnkY-iqciuT-iqcgEa-iqciLp-iqcys9-iqd3rn-iqcgw4-iqd7qe-iqd1Sa-iqd1YH-iqcsU5-iqcd54-iqd4rD-iqcvvC-iqcwBq-iqciEc-iqciYh-iqd6Tn-iqcoLo-iqco8j-iqckKU-eMJw5J-qTDWnW-pejMkS-nAodpd-rzbCRd-peq1ki-peqfU9-pvxkGg-eM3qoy-pd6SwK-qTMbH4-eLR3ug-pejMjj-uY43bq-pvxkPk-vitrFc-pekmnb-nTr8nf-wMVA5s-qEty2L-qVrhRW




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fais
02-17-2017, 12:33 AM
Is he Liu... IS HE!?!!

ttpshot
02-17-2017, 06:00 AM
It's still true even in Japan. Top high school team(one with the likes of Yoshimura etc), only receives 8 sheets of Tenergys per player per month which is bare minimum when you play 40 hours a month and go around tournaments.

mr. tom
02-17-2017, 07:29 AM
I am starting to think they do it on purpose...trying to hide he's using Butterfly and pretending he is using Stiga. Look at all the forum posts; it's free advertising. Also, they know he needs a backup blade; they could see to it he has a backup blade with a stiga handle.