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Tompa8888
08-22-2015, 11:15 PM
Does anyone know more about the new
Yasaka Rising Dragon (http://www.tabletennisdb.com/rubber/yasaka-rising-dragon.html)?

"Brand new monster- rubber from Yasaka. Made for the new plastic ball. Hybrid of euro/jap/chinarubber. Not seen before. Spin of china, speed of euro,/touch of japan...Small tackiness combined with heavy grip for plastic and latest version in tension tech."

How is it compared to Rakza 7?

UpSideDownCarl
08-22-2015, 11:24 PM
It's definitely a good name for a rubber. It sounds pretty interesting. Thanks.


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raazzz
08-22-2015, 11:29 PM
Haha Rising Dragon! Is the text copied from Yasakas site or a shop?

AndySmith
08-23-2015, 12:37 PM
Very different to Rakza.

This is made in China, semi-tacky top, black sponge (at least on the black sheet). The quality of my sheet was very high, but it's quite expensive for a Chinese rubber. Only had a 5 minute knock with it so far so hard to give much detail at the moment, but it seemed OK. The topsheet looks quite similar to Big Dipper, and the sponge doesn't appear to be factory tuned (it doesn't have a glue layer).

Kaizoku
08-25-2015, 01:57 PM
I heard it was slightly faster than Rakza 7, with Japanese sponge and light weight. (lighter than Adidas P7 at least, which again is definitely lighter than Bluefire rubbers).
Does indeed sound interesting.

https://i.gyazo.com/d5ede73f792b3d6903d6d92247f73645.png

AndySmith
08-25-2015, 02:19 PM
I heard it was slightly faster than Rakza 7, with Japanese sponge and light weight. (lighter than Adidas P7 at least, which again is definitely lighter than Bluefire rubbers).
Does indeed sound interesting.

It could be a japanese sponge - the quality is good enough and it doesn't look exactly like any chinese sponge I've seen recently. It feels pretty quick once you overcome the tack.

It's quite heavy though - 76.46g uncut, which is 10g heavier than a sheet of uncut P7.

Kaizoku
08-25-2015, 02:22 PM
Ah ok, could be my source judged false. lol. He did say that's what it felt like, but he had not actually measured it. Still lighter than Bluefire though? (I know their heavy, but, can't remember measurement lol)

AndySmith
08-25-2015, 02:29 PM
Ah ok, could be my source judged false. lol. He did say that's what it felt like, but he had not actually measured it. Still lighter than Bluefire though? (I know their heavy, but, can't remember measurement lol)

About the same as JP01 Turbo I think. RD's sponge is pretty hard and dense...

Kaizoku
08-25-2015, 02:32 PM
About the same as JP01 Turbo I think. RD's sponge is pretty hard and dense...

I guess that means it's not light weight at all, but on the contrary fairly heavy. xD

Tony's Table Tennis
08-25-2015, 03:15 PM
I just ordered by batch for stock - as well as one for me

It has been out in Asia a bit earlier and just release in Euro/Africa market recently

AndySmith
08-25-2015, 03:16 PM
I just ordered by batch for stock - as well as one for me

It has been out in Asia a bit earlier and just release in Euro/Africa market recently

It's a bit expensive for a Made in China rubber Tony. Any idea why?

Kaizoku
08-25-2015, 10:22 PM
Maybe because it's produced in both Japan and China? Japanese sponge technology.

TurboZ
08-26-2015, 02:30 AM
I see it is not being market in China at the moment. Probaby they don't believe a "Made in China" hard and tacky rubber in this price bracket can survive there without any proven record in competition. So far all review are in Japanese only. Anyone care to telll us what is it about?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip2t27kdDc8

Suga D
08-27-2015, 12:24 PM
This sounds real interesting. I wonder how much it weighs. Think i gotta try it soon.

Edit: i've just realised you weighed yours already... Silly me. :)

Suga D
08-27-2015, 04:29 PM
About the same as JP01 Turbo I think. RD's sponge is pretty hard and dense...

Have you ever played the Spinart? If yes, how would you compare these two?

AndySmith
08-27-2015, 04:56 PM
Have you ever played the Spinart? If yes, how would you compare these two?

I used spinart a loooong time ago, plus that was the cell era (I guess we can call it that now).

The comparison is a good one! They are quite close in a few ways. I'd say that Rising Dragon feels a bit more solid (i.e. generally harder) and direct than spinart, which itself feels more elastic and flexible. Pretty similar though. RD might come to life if tuned.

The problem with RD as I see it at the moment is the price - it feels quite similar to many recent Chinese rubbers but is twice the price. I need a bit more time with it to get a good handle on it though.

Suga D
08-27-2015, 06:12 PM
Thanks a lot, Andy. Really sounds like i've got to give it a try. :)
About the pricing, i'm pretty sure that yasaka might have a detailed quality control but not so sure if it's worth the double price. Time will tell.
Thanks again for the fast reply and much success to you.

UpSideDownCarl
08-27-2015, 10:03 PM
Good info. Thanks Andy.


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Tompa8888
08-30-2015, 08:30 PM
I see it is not being market in China at the moment. Probaby they don't believe a "Made in China" hard and tacky rubber in this price bracket can survive there without any proven record in competition. So far all review are in Japanese only. Anyone care to telll us what is it about?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip2t27kdDc8


anyone that can translate?

anchorschmidt
09-08-2015, 01:03 PM
Here is a long review written in Japanese and the Google translate product.

Not that easy to understand though.

https://goo.gl/mKJIOx

SquareBall
10-29-2015, 03:01 PM
Has anyone tried this rubber? I've read some good reviews in tabletennisdb.

TareqPhoto
10-29-2015, 11:35 PM
I just knew about this rubber last week, and i surprised that i didn't see much topics about it, so i didn't look for to buy it, but i am sure there are some players may like it and some others may not, as usual.