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kinocchio
12-23-2015, 06:53 PM
In this topic i want to find out which rubber of the Tenergy series is the best. What are your experiences? How does these rubbers perform? Which is your favourit?

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Rajah*
12-24-2015, 02:34 PM
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NextLevel
12-24-2015, 04:15 PM
If you loop everything and are active in the short game with spin manipulation, Tenergy 05. If you block more and are a bit more passive in the short game, the more linear precision of T64 and T80 might be more to your liking.

Tinykin
12-24-2015, 07:31 PM
I'm not sure about that. I think T25FX is better than T64 for blocking and short game. I don't know anything about the T80 though.

Ilia Minkin
12-25-2015, 12:24 AM
Lifehack: buy T05 first, then once it wears out, buy T80, or vice versa. This way you will learn by yourself how these rubbers play for you. And the difference between them is not that big so you can go from one to another with a minimal adjustment.

Brookerbig
12-25-2015, 02:30 AM
Depend on your skill. I like hard sponge so t05 is my favorite.

UpSideDownCarl
12-25-2015, 03:59 AM
Depend on your skill. I like hard sponge so t05 is my favorite.

The sponge on T05, T80, T64 and T25 is all the same. The difference is not the sponge. It is the pimple construction. T64 has longer thinner pimples with more space between pimples so the pips give more and the rubber feels softer. T05 pimples are a little shorter, thicker, and closer together so the rubber feels harder. But even the rubber in the topsheet is the same. Just the pimple construction is different.

To the OP, I would like to ask what he means by the word "best".

I won't comment on T25; but T05, T80 and T64 are all great rubbers.

There are people whose game and style of play may work with one of them slightly better than the others. But they are all really great rubbers.

There is a video that explains decently what the difference between each one is. Once I am able to search for it, I will post it here. But it has been posted to the forum many times already.

That video should help you out a decent amount.

To sum the info up simply:

1) T05: Slower, More Spin, Higher Throw Angle.
2) T64: Faster, Less Spin, Lower Throw Angle.
3) T80: half way between T05 and T64.

So do you want a bigger arc, more spin to spin the person off the table but a little sacrifice in speed? Or do you want lower shots that don't come up as much and are faster. But with an amount of spin that is easier to counter. Or do you want to be half way in between the two extremes?

I go with slower and more spin every time. Especially since T05 is more than fast enough.


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UpSideDownCarl
12-25-2015, 04:05 AM
Here is that video for you:


http://youtu.be/G0CEUQveMuw


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NextLevel
12-25-2015, 04:19 AM
I'm not sure about that. I think T25FX is better than T64 for blocking and short game. I don't know anything about the T80 though.

Most people, including Butterfly reps, discuss T25 and T25FX as rubbers that are specialized Tenergies. Most discussion is about T05, T64 and T80 as those are similar rubbers along a continuum.

kinocchio
12-25-2015, 09:49 AM
With the term best, I mean actually the best experience with these rubbers. The video mentioned I was actually familiar with. But it doesn't give much information about the touch of these series at the table. Tabletennis is not only about spinny topspin. For example how does each individual rubber reacts to spinny serves? I found that t05 is very sensitive to incoming spin and spinny serves. But T80 is less sensitive to it etc.

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ajtatosmano2
12-26-2015, 07:31 PM
T25 is also a very-very good rubber, just a way different than other Tenergies and suits less people. T80 has a little bit more control (for me), less sensitive to spin, but T05 is spinnier.

NextLevel
12-27-2015, 12:24 AM
With the term best, I mean actually the best experience with these rubbers. The video mentioned I was actually familiar with. But it doesn't give much information about the touch of these series at the table. Tabletennis is not only about spinny topspin. For example how does each individual rubber reacts to spinny serves? I found that t05 is very sensitive to incoming spin and spinny serves. But T80 is less sensitive to it etc.

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Yes, but that is if you are into passive returns. If you like to push and spin aggressively, the T05 reaction is a benefit. It's when you try to just touch the serve without any acceleration that using T05 is a nightmare.

UpSideDownCarl
12-27-2015, 01:59 AM
And that term best is still about preference and each person will feel something slightly different is "best".

Like, for me, hands down, I like T05 more than the others for forehand. For backhand T05, T64 and T05FX have all worked fine. If I used it T80 may be fine as well. But I remember when I tried it, I didn't try for that long and was used to T05FX and didn't give it much of a chance.

The extra spin and higher throw seems to be more important to my forehand than my backhand.


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02-17-2017, 11:00 AM
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Baal
02-17-2017, 06:06 PM
Trial and error. Results may vary. 05 64 and 80 all good. Will depend a lot on blade.