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ridderz65
04-10-2016, 08:48 PM
Hi guys,

I'm a modern defender when I play table tennis. And I love watching Joo se hyuk, Panagiotis Gionis on youtube and seeing the pro modern defenders in action.

But does anyone know, going by the world rankings, the top 10 defenders in world table tennis? I'd like to watch some other players on YouTube.

If anyone can give me the top 10 defenders and their ranking that would be amazing.

Thanks everyone :)

Vrael
04-10-2016, 09:05 PM
It is probably not top 10, but You should check out Wang Yang

Kokain
04-10-2016, 09:06 PM
I think there isn't enough to make top 10 defenders list and judging by Joo se hyuk face after every match he doesn't like defending either lel

izra
04-10-2016, 09:41 PM
you probably want to check out ruwen filus (long pips), hou yingchao (short pips) and yuto muramatsu (short pips).

for classic defense see evgueni chtchetinine (long pips), and for a frantic modern and classic mix see masato shiono (long pips).

yuri.saldon
04-10-2016, 10:28 PM
Watch koji Matsushita too, IMO he's like the waldner of defenders

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JeffM
04-11-2016, 05:17 AM
You may watch Shiono Masato too if you don't have enough already.

Matt Hetherington
04-11-2016, 12:57 PM
Joo Se Hyuk, Gionis Panagiotis, Yuto Muramatsu, Masato Shiono, Adam Pattantyus, Jang Song Man, Ruwen Filus, Hou Yingchao.

Older choppers that are great to watch are Ding Song and Matsushita.

Don't forget there are a tonne of choppers in the women's too like Pavlovich and Kim Kyung Ah (Her matches are awesome)

D_Nizzle
04-11-2016, 01:34 PM
Hi guys,

I'm a modern defender when I play table tennis. And I love watching Joo se hyuk, Panagiotis Gionis on youtube and seeing the pro modern defenders in action.

But does anyone know, going by the world rankings, the top 10 defenders in world table tennis? I'd like to watch some other players on YouTube.

If anyone can give me the top 10 defenders and their ranking that would be amazing.

Thanks everyone :)

Let’s see. This would be my mastermind topic!
All the good ones have been mentioned. For pure entertainment, but maybe not effectiveness (though that’s a whole other topic) you gotta love Shiono and Matsushita. And Pavlovich shows awesome guts. Ruwen Filus is probably my favourite and the style I most try to copy.
I’d maybe just add Sas Lasan (I think Slovenian – he’s got a strange style – esp his forehand chop). And a Chinese chopper - I read that they have two who practice with the national team – can’t remember the other one. The one I know is Ma Te. He has an awesome twiddling backhand inverted kill shot off backspin. He beat Zhang Jike in Chinese trials pretty recently.
And who could forget good ole Fabian Akerstrom from Sweden! He’s got a unique style – but hasn’t been the same since they banned frictionless long pips. A former national champ! Really interesting to watch his twiddling and mid-range chopping.
There are others … Richard Gonzalez from Philippines. There’s even an antispin blocker from Luxemburg – the only international antispin player I know – you could find his name easily on Google. I could go on. But the quality players have been mentioned.

Xylit
04-11-2016, 02:03 PM
Don't forget Chen Weixing :)

D_Nizzle
04-11-2016, 02:12 PM
Don't forget Chen Weixing :)


Doh! (Slaps self on head Homer Simpson style)

fshimon
04-11-2016, 04:57 PM
And wang xi...
If i am correct Waldner said few years ago that he is the best defender in the world

D_Nizzle
04-11-2016, 07:26 PM
And wang xi...
If i am correct Waldner said few years ago that he is the best defender in the world

Him too.yeh they played together in fulda in German league.hes definitely the best defender not to play in international comps anyway.real shame.

Matt Hetherington
04-11-2016, 11:19 PM
Also if you can find some videos of them on youtube there are a couple of good chinese choppers who were in the USA one is called Wei Wang and was about 80 in the world for Spain, the other is Guan Qing Feng who was almost Chinese national team and lost in the 7th to Crisan at last year's US Open. One other is Li Kewei who was also top 100 in the world and played for Malta and now lives in the USA.

ridderz65
04-12-2016, 06:38 AM
Wow thanks everyone!

BeGo
04-13-2016, 10:43 AM
There a wordpress blog dedicated as sanctuary of every high level chopper in the word, and,

https://tabletennisdefenders.wordpress.com/

If I am not mistaken, there is a journal by martinspin somewhere about monthly performance of every high level chopper in the word.

http://ooakforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=26826

You should go to both. :)

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ridderz65
04-13-2016, 10:44 AM
There a wordpress blog dedicated as sanctuary of every high level chopper in the word, and,

If I am not mistaken, there is a journal by martinspin somewhere about monthly performance of every high level chopper in the word.

You should go to both. :)

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Thanks BeGo. Do you have a link by chance?

BeGo
04-13-2016, 10:56 AM
Thanks BeGo. Do you have a link by chance?
Added. :)


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Musaab
04-13-2016, 08:44 PM
Let’s see. This would be my mastermind topic!
All the good ones have been mentioned. For pure entertainment, but maybe not effectiveness (though that’s a whole other topic) you gotta love Shiono and Matsushita. And Pavlovich shows awesome guts. Ruwen Filus is probably my favourite and the style I most try to copy.
I’d maybe just add Sas Lasan (I think Slovenian – he’s got a strange style – esp his forehand chop). And a Chinese chopper - I read that they have two who practice with the national team – can’t remember the other one. The one I know is Ma Te. He has an awesome twiddling backhand inverted kill shot off backspin. He beat Zhang Jike in Chinese trials pretty recently.
And who could forget good ole Fabian Akerstrom from Sweden! He’s got a unique style – but hasn’t been the same since they banned frictionless long pips. A former national champ! Really interesting to watch his twiddling and mid-range chopping.
There are others … Richard Gonzalez from Philippines. There’s even an antispin blocker from Luxemburg – the only international antispin player I know – you could find his name easily on Google. I could go on. But the quality players have been mentioned.

Ma Te is a hell of a defender, I enjoy him with Joo just as equal !!

pgpg
04-13-2016, 10:03 PM
There a wordpress blog dedicated as sanctuary of every high level chopper in the word, and,

https://tabletennisdefenders.wordpress.com/

If I am not mistaken, there is a journal by martinspin somewhere about monthly performance of every high level chopper in the word.

http://ooakforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=26826

You should go to both. :)

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That's a very nice Wordpress blog, I wonder how come I never saw it before (OK, not a lot of posts lately, but very nice collection of videos)

BeGo
04-14-2016, 06:28 AM
That's a very nice Wordpress blog, I wonder how come I never saw it before (OK, not a lot of posts lately, but very nice collection of videos)
Your post also hold true when read backward,

We need new bloods of defenders. ?????(>?<)?????

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Takkyu_wa_inochi
12-13-2016, 04:44 AM
Defender ladies : Han ying , Wu Yang, Seo Hyo won, Sato Hitomi, Kim kyung ah, etc....

PiZa
12-13-2016, 01:05 PM
Kim Song I performance on Rio 2016 was very impressed. Unfortunately she is from Northern Korea, so we can not see her too quickly again.

Takkyu_wa_inochi
12-13-2016, 01:09 PM
Kim Song I performance on Rio 2016 was very impressed. Unfortunately she is from Northern Korea, so we can not see her too quickly again.

how could i forget her ? yes the bronze medal. she's very good

Giovanni Greco
10-16-2018, 08:31 AM
Don't forget Liu Fei from China.

yoass
10-16-2018, 10:17 AM
Doh! (Slaps self on head Homer Simpson style)

Oh. And Ma Te, of course.

perham
10-16-2018, 01:25 PM
Oh. And Ma Te, of course.

My favourite defender. I’ve seen him play aggressively with long pips as well. Watch the match against Liam Pitchford for example.


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zzzuppp
10-16-2018, 08:12 PM
Going back a bit, nobody's mentioned Chen Xinhua, maybe the most entertaining player of all time- fantastic chopper and acrobat.

bircham boi
10-17-2018, 12:24 AM
For sheer athleticism, I don't think you can go past Liu Fei. In 2015, she was ranked 23 in the world, and that's probably a pretty accurate assessment of her ability.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Io1qHBFAeY

yoass
10-18-2018, 08:12 AM
Defender ladies : Han ying , Wu Yang, Seo Hyo won, Sato Hitomi, Kim kyung ah, etc....

Jill Hammersley.

perham
10-18-2018, 08:39 AM
Speaking of defenders, anyone knows about a game between two defenders? I wonder how that turns out.


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Takkyu_wa_inochi
10-18-2018, 08:51 AM
Speaking of defenders, anyone knows about a game between two defenders? I wonder how that turns out.




Here it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp2QbJrbzMw

or matchpoint !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCvuMrW3VsI

yoass
10-18-2018, 11:19 AM
Speaking of defenders, anyone knows about a game between two defenders? I wonder how that turns out.

I've got two words for you. "Expedite System" (https://www.ittf.com/handbook/, 2.15).

phorkyas
10-18-2018, 03:00 PM
There's a German defender with his own channel showing some great play, not top ten level of course, but nice to watch I think: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RxnNYhJbbvI&t=474s

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yoass
10-18-2018, 03:41 PM
There's a German defender with his own channel showing some great play, not top ten level of course, but nice to watch I think: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RxnNYhJbbvI&t=474s

+10 points for the Rumgayroll.

zzzuppp
10-18-2018, 09:33 PM
Speaking of defenders, anyone knows about a game between two defenders? I wonder how that turns out.


This is much less boring: two of the World's greatest defenders (Koji Matsushita - on the right - and Li Gun Sang) at the '89 Worlds on an old Reflexsport video. As the announcer on the original video said ' when two defenders meet, someone has to take the initiative'.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lIR1-G1_Go&amp;frags=pl%2Cwn

Giovanni Greco
10-19-2018, 08:24 AM
Jill Hammersley.
Joanna Parker Drinkhall

Loopadoop
10-19-2018, 09:02 PM
Manika Batra Women World Ranked #55

LordPippington
10-19-2018, 10:41 PM
This is much less boring: two of the World's greatest defenders (Koji Matsushita - on the right - and Li Gun Sang) at the '89 Worlds on an old Reflexsport video. As the announcer on the original video said ' when two defenders meet, someone has to take the initiative'.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lIR1-G1_Go&amp;frags=pl%2Cwn

Or some times no one does and you get the push rallies... not as exciting to watch, but still very technical and deceiving. Varying spin and placement is an art of its own!

Great match though! Both of those guys had terrific forehands

Giovanni Greco
10-20-2018, 07:09 PM
Manika Batra Women World Ranked #55
Manika Batra is not a defender, but a blocker and counterattack player.

Tajny1989
10-20-2018, 08:58 PM
https://youtu.be/BPF5A-zl0Ik

https://youtu.be/Gh0sNAUhSME

Kandi
01-13-2020, 09:06 AM
You may watch Shiono Masato too if you don't have enough already.

driversbeat
01-13-2020, 10:15 AM
Zhang yining

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sirius13phobos
01-13-2020, 01:39 PM
Hey

Here is my chanell about defence

You can find here a lot of videos

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5_D6e6404HHDCiiuBIa1Rw