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slym
08-10-2016, 02:44 AM
K it didn't happen today, but against jeung youngsik, Ma long played the backhand game of Jeung. He never does that, by that I mean he never plays other's games. He makes them to play his game which is far superior to anyone. That again shows something is wrong, but to give credit to him, he created his own problems and finally solved them. Against Mizutani, it is gonna be an easy run. So, probably he will meet ZJK at final which was everyone's fantasy

Against Jung I totally agree he totally chocked. But he had the strenght to come back, and as you said solved his own issue. But people call for chock so rapidly when Ma Long misses something, as if he was supposed to win all his games 4-0 11-1 11-1 11-1 11-1.

I dont think either that he will have big problems against Mizutani, even if Jun is playing reallyyyy well nowadays, Ma knows how to deal with it and his ratio against him is a good proof of that.

But in the final, alone against ZJK (if he wins Vladi ofc), it will be a different story. Hope he can hold his nerves without Liu Guoliand in an Olympic final. If not, ZJK wins for sure. If yes, tight match, hard to predict but slightly advantage for Ma Long.

TTFrenzy
08-10-2016, 02:45 AM
also about the olympic system of qualification, there is no perfect "fair and square" system, every country can fix no matter the system the olympic committee choses. if for example the 2 single spots were to be decided in qualification tournaments then LGL would still send zjk and ma long. but I guess federations of countries have some influence and can negotiate with the olympic committee or ITTF to find a balance system.

only knockout qualifications @ olympics for example are probably unfair to miss for those who are high ranked but had minor or major injuries and failed to attend

Siva Schopenhauer
08-10-2016, 02:46 AM
seriously Carl i admire your patience its hialrious. im more than bored to reply 4 years after the 2012 olympics and still there is the fairytale drama of LGL picking wang hao or zjk over ma long . I mean daaaaaamn

Well the stats can speak for them. But, i clearly remember LGL sitting nearby Ma long and consoling him when Wang Hao played ZJK for the gold medal. ML's face showed something didn't go well. IF somebody knows chinese we could find those videos to know what LGL felt about ML.

There are no fanatsies, it is black and white because they picked ZJK over FZD and XX against the rules

TTFrenzy
08-10-2016, 02:48 AM
Well the stats can speak for them. But, i clearly remember LGL sitting nearby Ma long and consoling him when Wang Hao played ZJK for the gold medal. ML's face showed something didn't go well. IF somebody knows chinese we could find those videos to know what LGL felt about ML.

There are no fanatsies, it is black and white because they picked ZJK over FZD and XX against the rules

against the rules? have you even read the rules? come on man im not even getting into a pointless conversation, know your stuff better. federations have the right to deny an invitation and thats what happened. if u think it is unfair that is your problem, the rules are crystal clear. bye!

Siva Schopenhauer
08-10-2016, 02:51 AM
Against Jung I totally agree he totally chocked. But he had the strenght to come back, and as you said solved his own issue. But people call for chock so rapidly when Ma Long misses something, as if he was supposed to win all his games 4-0 11-1 11-1 11-1 11-1.

I dont think either that he will have big problems against Mizutani, even if Jun is playing reallyyyy well nowadays, Ma knows how to deal with it and his ratio against him is a good proof of that.

But in the final, alone against ZJK (if he wins Vladi ofc), it will be a different story. Hope he can hold his nerves without Liu Guoliand in an Olympic final. If not, ZJK wins for sure. If yes, tight match, hard to predict but slightly advantage for Ma Long.

Jun has complex for CNT. HE was 10-3 ahead of XX in some world tour last year till he choked. There is no way he is playing well against ML. probably something like 4-1. ML never gets choked against those who get choked at his sight. So, the real test is the gold medal. Let's see. If ML proves himself against ZJK, I ll never watch table tennis again. I m sure it is not gonna happen :D

UpSideDownCarl
08-10-2016, 03:30 AM
I am not going to get into the silliness of the arguing that is going on here. But, as a moderator, I am going to say, if you guys don't stop throwing insults at each other, I am going to start deleting posts and have Dan look at the bad behavior that you are displaying.

Well, actually, I am about to delete a few posts now where one person is insulting another.

But, Siva, this thing that on the internet gets called trolling, YOU are doing it. And you should stop.

I pointed out rules. If you don't know the rules for qualification for 2012 Olympics or 2016 Olympics, you should look them up. And based on your comments, this is not a biased statement, it is simply a FACT, based on your comments, you are unfortunately unaware of the rules for qualification for either Olympic games mentioned.

So go read up. But no more name calling and no more personal insults.

UpSideDownCarl
08-10-2016, 03:51 AM
Personal insults and pointless arguing, you don't want to do that. This thread is about table tennis and the Rio Olympics.

ttmonster
08-10-2016, 04:31 AM
Question : If Samsonov loses to Zhang Jike , does he still get a bronze or is there a third place play off ?

And I did not think I would be saying this in this olympics , even though Zhang Jike has a better chance to beat Ma Long than anybody else right now, I would still root for the Evergreen Tree when he plays Jike ... , but if he manages to beat him , he better beat Ma Long .... ! :P ...

Sorry @NextLevel , our man got a little too nervous is what I think , why else so many half long serves ... I think that handed the initiative to Ma Long in the 2nd set and he just got to a higher place mentally after that ...

UpSideDownCarl
08-10-2016, 04:50 AM
Bronze Medal Match happens 1 hour before the finals.

ade14212
08-10-2016, 05:23 AM
Pussy Ma Long actually did so much better against an improved Aruna than the manly Zhang Jike. Does this make ZJK an even bigger pussy? Lol

Honestly, I think we will see ZJK back to his usual routine if him and ML meets in the final. Touch his back when it's out and cho like an obnoxious kid when it's in.

You can see the mentality of champs in game. They don't always dominate but they win, even if it's ugly. They show their grit. Thing that some people here don't understand.

In the meantime, go Vladimir!!!

gauravvraj
08-10-2016, 05:29 AM
dear friends and fellow table tennis players.
anyone please post the link to the video of Dimitrij Ovtacharov VS Bojan Tokic

NextLevel
08-10-2016, 06:11 AM
Question : If Samsonov loses to Zhang Jike , does he still get a bronze or is there a third place play off ?

And I did not think I would be saying this in this olympics , even though Zhang Jike has a better chance to beat Ma Long than anybody else right now, I would still root for the Evergreen Tree when he plays Jike ... , but if he manages to beat him , he better beat Ma Long .... ! :P ...

Sorry @NextLevel , our man got a little too nervous is what I think , why else so many half long serves ... I think that handed the initiative to Ma Long in the 2nd set and he just got to a higher place mentally after that ...

Carl jinxed him. But on a serious note, I have seen that match before - I saw it earlier this year when Aruna played Xu Xin. So I knew what to expect and didn't have any high hopes - the CNT really get up when they play Aruna. The problem is that you can't deal with that CNT quality of ball unless you play against it on a fairly regular basis. At this point, Aruna either has to get on the same team with OVtcharov or go to the CSL if he wants to improve against that kind of ball. But if you had told me that Aruna would make the quarters before the Olympics started, I would have laughed in your face.

People will say all kinds of things about technique this, recovery that and other kinds of nonsense. But it was clear that Aruna was having major issues with the spin level. That can only be addressed through exposure.

allencorn
08-10-2016, 06:34 AM
I read an article a while ago that the CNT uses the first game to assess their opponent to see how they are playing, if they are playing according to their scouting reports. I would bet that they often use tactics to see if they work so they know what to do later in games. The article also stated that something like 40% of games at the world championships had a score of 9-9, so any tactical edge and plan for success at that point was crucial, and it was often based on what was learned during the probing during that first game.

Don't forget that in addition to being great players, the CNT probably also has a the greatest system in the world. I assume most of what they do is planned.

Perhaps the German team could learn from that, as their tactics seemed quite off this tournament.

UpSideDownCarl
08-10-2016, 08:33 AM
One thing I do know is that Aruna is amazing at tracking balls down and if he can get past the short game and into an open rally, he could have a chance with anyone.

I have a feeling NextLevel is spot on about level of spin and needing to play against those guys enough.

d3ss3n
08-10-2016, 08:38 AM
Is there any link i can watch the matches? I have tried the link provided on the ittf facebook page but was redirected to super sports app which shows nothing when downloaded. Really wanted to watch these matcheas

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ttmonster
08-10-2016, 08:43 AM
Carl , I agree with NL and there is also that difference in mental stability for a pretender vis-a-vis somebody who thinks I belong at this level ...

Ma Long started exploiting his weakness on the backhand from the get go and then when he got the confidence that he has a 60-40 chance on FH - FH exchanges he opened up.

I was expecting Aruna to stage a comeback in the later sets once he got used to Ma Long's power , but unlike the famous Bojan Tokic - Ma Long match , which I still consider the definitive fight of a two winged looper vs Ma Long when both are at the top of their form and neither is breaking down mentally , I was somehow let down by the fact that Ma Long started looping his serves , long or over the table .

I felt thats where Aruna failed to take the game to him ... again .. different perspectives .. NL's understanding of the game is superior than mine and he spends much more time thinking and studying the game ... so I would readily defer to his observations ...




One thing I do know is that Aruna is amazing at tracking balls down and if he can get past the short game and into an open rally, he could have a chance with anyone.

I have a feeling NextLevel is spot on about level of spin and needing to play against those guys enough.

Michal_Z
08-10-2016, 11:03 AM
I wonder what Vladi told to Dima after the match.. Can someone read lips? :D
Anyways - I was really glad that Vladi won.. After all he did and all of those years in top 10 and no medal from OG - he deserves this chance more - and Dima will surely have another one..
So thats it - and I expect tough fight with Zhang, I dont think this will be anything easy for Zhang.
I wish Vladi would win.. either with Zhang or later with Jun, I want him to get a medal!!!

d3ss3n
08-10-2016, 11:06 AM
On which link i can watch the matches plz?

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Siva Schopenhauer
08-10-2016, 11:32 AM
Dima Ovtcharov vs Vlady Samsonv Quater Finals Full Match HD. Closing the pop ups or intalling adblock takes you to the video. Enjoy mates :)
<a href="https://openload.co/f/6o8wde2qeKc/Dimitrij_Ovtcharov_Vs_Vladimir_Samsonov_Quarter_Finals_Rio_2016_Full_Match_HD.mkv.mp4"><img src="https://thumb.oloadcdn.net/splash/6o8wde2qeKc/b6kNN6QDfy8.jpg" /></a>

NextLevel
08-10-2016, 12:21 PM
Carl , I agree with NL and there is also that difference in mental stability for a pretender vis-a-vis somebody who thinks I belong at this level ...

Ma Long started exploiting his weakness on the backhand from the get go and then when he got the confidence that he has a 60-40 chance on FH - FH exchanges he opened up.

I was expecting Aruna to stage a comeback in the later sets once he got used to Ma Long's power , but unlike the famous Bojan Tokic - Ma Long match , which I still consider the definitive fight of a two winged looper vs Ma Long when both are at the top of their form and neither is breaking down mentally , I was somehow let down by the fact that Ma Long started looping his serves , long or over the table .

I felt thats where Aruna failed to take the game to him ... again .. different perspectives .. NL's understanding of the game is superior than mine and he spends much more time thinking and studying the game ... so I would readily defer to his observations ...

I think what you might underestimate is how exposed the top Europeans are to the Chinese. Nigeria has a strong TT tradition dating back to the days of Atanda Musa and his teammates in the 80s and Segun Toriola's in the 90s and 2000s. So the players can pretty much learn Nigerian technique and develop unique skill sets similar to the Europeans. You don't need to travel to China to become a good TT player if you have a good coach in Nigeria. Of course, how far you go depends on the level of TT you are exposed to and Aruna has been playing in Europe (first Portugal, now France). As you can see the coach was Nigerian. I and a friend actually hoped that Aruna would use Toriola for this match but who knows what the dynamics were.

What you are saying about Aruna's technical soundness under pressure is true but the problem is that Hurricane creates a different trajectory and ball quality which you have to train against. The Chinese also have the best disguised and powerful serve and third ball games so you aren't going to practice against that level of power and speed even playing the best European players. You need to play against Hurricane to read it better once you are playing at a high enough level.

Read Dima or Timo when they write about these things. Dima was complaining that Germany had lost Christian Suss and that losing a powerful looping training partner always hurts the level of practice. Timo talks about the temporary effect of playing in the CSL and training against that quality of ball.

When you don't have major success against that quality of ball, what memories are you going to draw upon to motivate you? Aruna had lost to Zhang Chao, Feng Yijun, Cao WeI, Xu Xin and Ma Long with this same issue. Some players adapt to that ball better than other but you need to train against it. Germany probably imported a few Chinese training partners for this. Nigeria doesn't have that kind of TT budget.

It will be interesting to see what Aruna does to address this and whether he wants to go further. But we also have to see if he retains this level as he didn't play people with tricky serve and third ball games. It would be interesting if he could join the super team in Russia with Mizutani and Dima and Samsonov for a week of training.

It's not about knowing more TT. The Nigerian TT Federation got new management about 3 years ago and that and Aruna's hard work is part of what is driving this improvement. Working with good coaches has shown me how important it is to train against a ceramic style and level to be able to read and play against it properly. People laugh when I check paddles before I play matches but trust me, I read strokes and my approach to the Hurricane ball is not the same as my approach to the Tenergy ball. The Hurricane ball can have both spin and speed in a way that the Tenergy or ESN ball, even with hard sponges, does not. People downplay it and put it down to the skill of the Chinese but just realize it is something you have to practice against. With European rubbers, spin and arc go together. With Chinese rubber, spin and speed can go together at a level you have to accept or you will get blown off the table.

Tokic has something in his background that explains his ability to deal with that ball. His father was a high level coach and I don't know his specific history but just take it from me, Tokic even with his losses vs them in recent times, just deals with that power at a better level than most.

It is like the first time you face a close to the table counter loop vs your opening loop. You are like WTF. But I'd you practice against it, you can learn to counter that loop as well. Ma Long has done that a lot against Aruna's ball. Aruna has not had to do that against the quality of Ma Long's ball. And once that gets into the game, the rest is frustration.

Aruna can back off the table and survive that ball against many players. But at this level, no chance.

Takkyu_wa_inochi
08-10-2016, 12:23 PM
I just watched Ovtcharov vs Samsonov, really a strange match
Until the injury "as expected" with stronger Ovtcharov

Then after the injury Ovtcharov loses totally his focus and starts to make many "unforced" errors. I mean missing balls which should be easy for him. Samsonov on the other hand is playing on a faux rhythm, playing slowly voluntary to give Dima the first attack, but he attacks too strong and Samsonov is waiting calmly for an agressive block and scores many many points like this

When the rally lasts, especially FH to FH, its almost always Ovtcharov who wins.
In the 4th set, Samsonov really looks like he's suffering and giving away the set
Strangely in the 5th set, Ovtcharov loses totally his nerves and makes the same mistakes. Why doesn't he play more on Samsonov FH side ? especially you could see that when the FH stroke was vertical it was painful for Samsonov ??

In the 6th set Dima finally plays better, leading 8-4. He was making a slow opening loop instead of attacking the 3rd ball with power. but then he starts AGAIN to attack with power, resulting two times with a miss, and the 3rd time by a winning block from Samsonov. Then Samsonov gets twice lucky and with the resulting pressure, and a bit of luck can close the game. It looks also that with the adrenaline and victory approaching, he didn't feel much pain in this set.

A great win for Samsonov given the circumstances, but a pitiful performance from Ovtcharov I think.

I'm happy for Samsonov as I'm a big fan, but lets be realistic, if he plays like this, he will lose 4-0 without discussion to ZJK, or even Mizutani. I'm even afraid he cannot compete at all with his injury.

I really hope the pain will be gone with a night rest and he can play 100%

As for Germany in the Team's event, if Boll and Ovtcharov play like in Singles, they will be out very quickly of the tournament. I don't see them getting any medal. I see them losing in the first round to Taipei

Siva Schopenhauer
08-10-2016, 12:46 PM
Zhang Jike Vs Chen chien An Round 3 Full Match HD

<a href="https://openload.co/f/t_sm1yLuJic/Zhang_Jike_Vs_Chen_Chien_An_Rio_2016_Round_3_Full_Match_HD"><img src="https://thumb.oloadcdn.net/splash/t_sm1yLuJic/kZZ-KhTQTFk.jpg" /></a>

Lan
08-10-2016, 12:53 PM
Can somebody kindly explain to me, why is it so difficult to find highlights for matches and why isn't ITTF doing anything about it?

PiZa
08-10-2016, 01:07 PM
On which link i can watch the matches plz?

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http://m.tudotv.tv/assistir-sportv-15-ao-vivo-online-gratis-em-hd/

Steven
08-10-2016, 01:13 PM
Can somebody kindly explain to me, why is it so difficult to find highlights for matches and why isn't doing anything about it?

ITTF doesn't have the rights to use footage of the Olympic Games, so they won't do highlight videos. If others try to upload highlights on Youtube, their videos will get blocked.

roger
08-10-2016, 01:22 PM
I think what you might underestimate is how exposed the top Europeans are to the Chinese. Nigeria has a strong TT tradition dating back to the days of Atanda Musa and his teammates in the 80s and Segun Toriola's in the 90s and 2000s. So the players can pretty much learn Nigerian technique and develop unique skill sets similar to the Europeans. You don't need to travel to China to become a good TT player if you have a good coach in Nigeria. Of course, how far you go depends on the level of TT you are exposed to and Aruna has been playing in Europe (first Portugal, now France). As you can see the coach was Nigerian. I and a friend actually hoped that Aruna would use Toriola for this match but who knows what the dynamics were.

What you are saying about Aruna's technical soundness under pressure is true but the problem is that Hurricane creates a different trajectory and ball quality which you have to train against. The Chinese also have the best disguised and powerful serve and third ball games so you aren't going to practice against that level of power and speed even playing the best European players. You need to play against Hurricane to read it better once you are playing at a high enough level.

Read Dima or Timo when they write about these things. Dima was complaining that Germany had lost Christian Suss and that losing a powerful looping training partner always hurts the level of practice. Timo talks about the temporary effect of playing in the CSL and training against that quality of ball.

When you don't have major success against that quality of ball, what memories are you going to draw upon to motivate you? Aruna had lost to Zhang Chao, Feng Yijun, Cao WeI, Xu Xin and Ma Long with this same issue. Some players adapt to that ball better than other but you need to train against it. Germany probably imported a few Chinese training partners for this. Nigeria doesn't have that kind of TT budget.

It will be interesting to see what Aruna does to address this and whether he wants to go further. But we also have to see if he retains this level as he didn't play people with tricky serve and third ball games. It would be interesting if he could join the super team in Russia with Mizutani and Dima and Samsonov for a week of training.

It's not about knowing more TT. The Nigerian TT Federation got new management about 3 years ago and that and Aruna's hard work is part of what is driving this improvement. Working with good coaches has shown me how important it is to train against a ceramic style and level to be able to read and play against it properly. People laugh when I check paddles before I play matches but trust me, I read strokes and my approach to the Hurricane ball is not the same as my approach to the Tenergy ball. The Hurricane ball can have both spin and speed in a way that the Tenergy or ESN ball, even with hard sponges, does not. People downplay it and put it down to the skill of the Chinese but just realize it is something you have to practice against. With European rubbers, spin and arc go together. With Chinese rubber, spin and speed can go together at a level you have to accept or you will get blown off the table.

Tokic has something in his background that explains his ability to deal with that ball. His father was a high level coach and I don't know his specific history but just take it from me, Tokic even with his losses vs them in recent times, just deals with that power at a better level than most.

It is like the first time you face a close to the table counter loop vs your opening loop. You are like WTF. But I'd you practice against it, you can learn to counter that loop as well. Ma Long has done that a lot against Aruna's ball. Aruna has not had to do that against the quality of Ma Long's ball. And once that gets into the game, the rest is frustration.

Aruna can back off the table and survive that ball against many players. But at this level, no chance.

Don't blame on the equipment
These are the important things in TT:
If a player have a proper technique, good footwork and cleverness like YJS, then it is not easy even for the top class player to beat him.
If Aruna plays with Hurricane, I don't thik he can handle it...

Tryzerlol
08-10-2016, 01:22 PM
Here's the problem, the IOC (Olympic Committee) reserves all rights (and rightfully so), but goes on to do a very shitty job at publishing the highlights and representing the sport. Giving the burden to the ITTF and letting them handle their own domain would be a win-win for both, the ITTF and the viewer, with the IOC missing out. As usual, money talks.

I'm not sure how this was handled 4 years ago at the London Olympics, but I don't think the coverage was that bad?

Steven
08-10-2016, 01:36 PM
I'm not sure how this was handled 4 years ago at the London Olympics, but I don't think the coverage was that bad?

Pretty much the same. The full replays of London that are available on Youtube now were uploaded a couple weeks after they were played. I think the same will happen this year.

NextLevel
08-10-2016, 01:37 PM
Don't blame on the equipment
These are the important things in TT:
If a player have a proper technique, good footwork and cleverness like YJS, then it is not easy even for the top class player to beat him.
If Aruna plays with Hurricane, I don't thik he can handle it...

English is probably not your first language. I am not blaming anything on equipment - I am saying that there is a level of play and quality of ball that Aruna has not familiarized himself with and he needs to play against that level more consistently to be able to deal with it.

If you have not played against Tenergy and Hurricane and noted the difference in ball quality, good for you. YJS practices with Chinese players and the Koreans know how to adapt to that quality of ball.

Or are you telling me that Jonathan Groth doesn't have proper footwork and technique?

The main reason why I think Aruna can adapt is that he has improved a lot in the past 3 years. USually, I Tell people that if you didn't start something when you were young, forget about it. But the improvements in backhand play that Aruna has made in the past year are not trivial and make me believe that if he played the Chinese more often he would adapt.

NextLevel
08-10-2016, 01:38 PM
Pretty much the same. The full replays of London that are available on Youtube now were uploaded a couple weeks after they were played. I think the same will happen this year.

The youtube scanning devices that automatically remove videos have gotten smarter so you have to do things to hide the Olympic rings etc.

TableTennisDaily
08-10-2016, 01:44 PM
Semi Final Schedule - Men and Women

Time displayed in Rio

Women Matches take place today 10th August 2016

Li Xiaoxia vs Ai Fukuhara (10am)
Ding Ning vs Kim Song (11am)
Women's Singles Bronze Medal Match (8.30pm)
Women's Singles Gold Medal Match (9.30pm)

Men Matches take place tomorrow 11th August 2016

Ma Long vs Jun Mizutani (10am)
Zhang Jike vs Vladimir Samsonov (11am)
Men's Singles Bronze Medal Match (8.30pm)
Men's Singles Gold Medal Match (9.30pm)

UK users Live Stream: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/olympics/36674339

More stream links below

steffi
08-10-2016, 02:04 PM
"Both right handed players"

It doesn't look good.

Michal_Z
08-10-2016, 02:05 PM
Anyways, women semis on, I dont know if this works out Slovakia, but works for me..

http://rtvs.sk/rio2016/live/11#play

live stream

TableTennisDaily
08-10-2016, 02:18 PM
The first semi final is up: Li Xiaoxia vs Ai Fukuhara UK users live stream: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/olympics/36674339

NextLevel
08-10-2016, 02:27 PM
Fukuhara decided to conserve energy for the third place match.

Tryzerlol
08-10-2016, 02:28 PM
What a massacre of a semi final ... 11:4 11:3 11:1 11:1, 4:0 for Li Xiaoxia

fanTT
08-10-2016, 02:28 PM
first SF of women is just pure dominant by China. Is it really so big gap between the china and the rest of the world?? Sad..
I hope next semi will be much more interesting. Attack vs defence! :D GO PRK!

steffi
08-10-2016, 02:28 PM
Gotta hand it to Fukuhara. That was a humiliating defeat but she always believed and kept her emotions in check.

TableTennisDaily
08-10-2016, 02:32 PM
Crazy scoreline! Li Xiaoxia storms into the final of #Rio2016 with a 4-0 win over Ai Fukuhara! Score: 11-4, 11-3, 11-1, 11-1

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpgFcKwXEAQ17WQ.jpg:large

TTFrenzy
08-10-2016, 02:55 PM
Question : If Samsonov loses to Zhang Jike , does he still get a bronze or is there a third place play off ?

And I did not think I would be saying this in this olympics , even though Zhang Jike has a better chance to beat Ma Long than anybody else right now, I would still root for the Evergreen Tree when he plays Jike ... , but if he manages to beat him , he better beat Ma Long .... ! :P ...

Sorry @NextLevel , our man got a little too nervous is what I think , why else so many half long serves ... I think that handed the initiative to Ma Long in the 2nd set and he just got to a higher place mentally after that ...


? dont think aruna was nervous, his plan was clear on that serves, force ma long to pivot and BH punch kill whatever topspin comes back. he knew he didnt have chances at a rally so he went all out, pretty clever if you ask me, regardless the result

mbl
08-10-2016, 03:14 PM
You can watch some of the highlights here in this forum, posted regularly by TTLondon2012: http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?13604-Highlighted-Matches-from-Rio-Olympics-2016-Table-Tennis!&p=156056

Michal_Z
08-10-2016, 03:14 PM
2nd semi final much better match so far.. !!!

SpinWins
08-10-2016, 03:16 PM
I agree with NextLevel. It was clear Aruna had not seen that type of spin often. He was struggle to return serve and was not use to getting pulled so wide to his right in rally. Long knew Aruna like to stay left and hit as many FH as possible, so he attacked with heavy spin and pace to his wide FH side and the ball was kick more to right after bounce.

Im sure Aruna has see balls to his wide fh side before, but not with amount of sidespin and pace Long puts on ball.

mr. tom
08-10-2016, 03:19 PM
This second semi final(Kim Song I - Ding Ning) is turning out to become very entertaining, :-)

fanTT
08-10-2016, 03:21 PM
Can someone remember me why ding ning was picked to rio? She is not defending the title and also not a number 1 in rankings.

mr. tom
08-10-2016, 03:22 PM
Can someone remember me why ding ning was picked to rio? She is not defending the title and also not a number 1 in rankings.
I think the final against Liu Shiwen where she got hurt and still won was very important

TTFrenzy
08-10-2016, 03:24 PM
Can someone remember me why ding ning was picked to rio? She is not defending the title and also not a number 1 in rankings.

The title holder has nothing to do with who is eligible to qualify for the next oly,pics

coaching staff prefered ding ning over lsw, lsw clearly having some mental issues. they both lost though in the olympic qualifiers

the first invitation was send to LSW the chinese federation has the right to reject it and on and on untill they send invitation to ding ning

Ilia Minkin
08-10-2016, 03:37 PM
Really impressed by counterlooping skills of Kim Song I!

steffi
08-10-2016, 03:43 PM
Ding Ning is at a disadvantage having to play a chopper before the final.

fanTT
08-10-2016, 03:49 PM
Ding ning is tired. Go prk!!! :D

mr. tom
08-10-2016, 03:49 PM
would be a shame if this match ends already

Ilia Minkin
08-10-2016, 03:50 PM
Ding Ning is at a disadvantage having to play a chopper before the final.

She is not just a chopper, her 3rd ball and counterattacks are super impressive. It should be a great match with Fukuhara.

TTFrenzy
08-10-2016, 03:51 PM
lucky ding ning, danng....

fanTT
08-10-2016, 03:52 PM
Final. Ding ning vs li xiaxia.. boring.. damm edge.

Ilia Minkin
08-10-2016, 03:54 PM
10596

steffi
08-10-2016, 03:58 PM
Ding Ning is at a disadvantage having to play a chopper before the final.

Get a bag of ice on that shoulder.

UpSideDownCarl
08-10-2016, 04:06 PM
Can someone remember me why ding ning was picked to rio? She is not defending the title and also not a number 1 in rankings.


I think the final against Liu Shiwen where she got hurt and still won was very important


The title holder has nothing to do with who is eligible to qualify for the next oly,pics

coaching staff prefered ding ning over lsw, lsw clearly having some mental issues. they both lost though in the olympic qualifiers

the first invitation was send to LSW the chinese federation has the right to reject it and on and on untill they send invitation to ding ning

The nuts and bolts of the answer to your question are here in the answers above from mr. tom and TTFrenzy.

The final in which Ding Ning got injured and still pulled out the match, that mr. tom mentioned was the WTTC singles FINAL. Which means Ding Ning may not be the current Olympic Champion. BUT SHE IS the current WORLD CHAMPION. The current Olympic Champion won her spot in the qualification tournament. That is Li Xiaoxia. Which also means that if Ding Ning wins the semi-final and goes to the finals, it will be The Current World Champion vs The Current Olympic Champion. Just like with the men: ML = Current World Champion, ZJK = Current Olympic Champion.

As to why and how, TTFrenzy has answered the how.

In the Olympic Qualification rules for Rio 2016, the first method for qualifying was the Qualification tournament. ML won the first round of the men's. Li Xiaoxia won the women's. China could have left their remaining players in those tournaments and let the best man and woman standing, be the second qualifier. I would have liked that. Because then the players who qualified would have earned their spots.

But, there was another option that China chose to utilize because it meant that they could choose their second qualifier. A choice they did not have in London 2012. The second option was that, in the April (or was it May?) 2016 OLYMPIC Rankings (Not the World Rankings but based on them), the highest ranked player remaining, would be invited for any given country. I can't remember what the ranking cut off was. In 2012, the ranking qualification was for players in the top 28. But I would have to look at the Olympic qualification rules for Rio to know where the cutoff was for Rio: the last time I looked was in April; too long ago for my memory. Regardless, the cutoff did not apply to China anyway. The country could accept the invitation or reject it. The country could reject a certain number. I can't remember if that was 2 or 3.

For men's, China rejected 2 (FZD and XX) before accepting ZJK. For women's I believe they only rejected 1 (LShiwen) before accepting Ding Ning.

So, China was within the rules. Hopefully the IOC will look at how that played out and decide if they think it was fair that the rules they instated allowed China to pick its 2nd qualifying players for Rio. The scenario I just explained, there is no other country that is in a position to have a 3rd or 4th ranked player on their team that they would accept over a 1st, 2nd or 3rd ranked player. No other country is that deep. So, perhaps the IOC did not think of the scenario.

But, perhaps the IOC likes the idea that, if they can't avoid having China have both spots in the gold medal match, at least both matches are Current World Champion vs Current Olympic Champion.

In 2012 the rules were different and seriously flawed. The first 2 qualifying players in 2012 were chosen based on World Ranking in the June 2011, right after the WTTC finished. At that time Wang Hao was ranked 1st, Zhang Jike was ranked 2nd, Timo Boll was Ranked 3rd, Ma Lin was ranked 4th and Ma Long (who was coming off an injury) was ranked 5th. If the rules were the first 2 players in the rankings as of any time after October of 2011 and certainly by April 2012, Ma Long would have been in the 2012 Olympics. But the first 2 qualifiers were chosen based on world rankings that were 15 months before the start of the London games because the June 2011 World Rankings came out on May 15th.

I think the qualification process for Rio was better. But, I think it was still flawed. One positive side of how China handled things by pulling out after they had 1 player qualify for singles was: THEY LEFT MORE SLOTS FOR PLAYERS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES TO EARN THEIR SPOT THROUGH THE QUALIFICATION TOURNAMENT. :)

I hope this information helps. But if anyone wants to do a google search for Olympic Qualification Process Table Tennis, it is easy to find the rules for both 2012 and 2016.

Michal_Z
08-10-2016, 04:14 PM
This looks like the 3rd place match will be more exciting than the final match..
I really wonder if Li Xiaoxia will be able to defend the title.. And in fact I think she will crush Ding..
But I just cant wait to see Fukuhara fight for 3rd place!
Imagine that, medal from Olympic games!
Yayyy, good luck AIIII!!!

eyepop
08-10-2016, 04:26 PM
Can someone remember me why ding ning was picked to rio? She is not defending the title and also not a number 1 in rankings.

<iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/8ahCE34zojo" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe>

I think this video pretty much sums it up.

TTFrenzy
08-10-2016, 04:30 PM
the bronze medal match begins in 8 hours from now.. crap i will be sleeping

NextLevel
08-10-2016, 05:17 PM
The nuts and bolts of the answer to your question are here in the answers above from mr. tom and TTFrenzy.

The final in which Ding Ning got injured and still pulled out the match, that mr. tom mentioned was the WTTC singles FINAL. Which means Ding Ning may not be the current Olympic Champion. BUT SHE IS the current WORLD CHAMPION. The current Olympic Champion won her spot in the qualification tournament. That is Li Xiaoxia. Which also means that if Ding Ning wins the semi-final and goes to the finals, it will be The Current World Champion vs The Current Olympic Champion. Just like with the men: ML = Current World Champion, ZJK = Current Olympic Champion.

As to why and how, TTFrenzy has answered the how.

In the Olympic Qualification rules for Rio 2016, the first method for qualifying was the Qualification tournament. ML won the first round of the men's. Li Xiaoxia won the women's. China could have left their remaining players in those tournaments and let the best man and woman standing, be the second qualifier. I would have liked that. Because then the players who qualified would have earned their spots.

But, there was another option that China chose to utilize because it meant that they could choose their second qualifier. A choice they did not have in London 2012. The second option was that, in the April (or was it May?) 2016 OLYMPIC Rankings (Not the World Rankings but based on them), the highest ranked player remaining, would be invited for any given country. I can't remember what the ranking cut off was. In 2012, the ranking qualification was for players in the top 28. But I would have to look at the Olympic qualification rules for Rio to know where the cutoff was for Rio: the last time I looked was in April; too long ago for my memory. Regardless, the cutoff did not apply to China anyway. The country could accept the invitation or reject it. The country could reject a certain number. I can't remember if that was 2 or 3.

For men's, China rejected 2 (FZD and XX) before accepting ZJK. For women's I believe they only rejected 1 (LShiwen) before accepting Ding Ning.

So, China was within the rules. Hopefully the IOC will look at how that played out and decide if they think it was fair that the rules they instated allowed China to pick its 2nd qualifying players for Rio. The scenario I just explained, there is no other country that is in a position to have a 3rd or 4th ranked player on their team that they would accept over a 1st, 2nd or 3rd ranked player. No other country is that deep. So, perhaps the IOC did not think of the scenario.

But, perhaps the IOC likes the idea that, if they can't avoid having China have both spots in the gold medal match, at least both matches are Current World Champion vs Current Olympic Champion.

In 2012 the rules were different and seriously flawed. The first 2 qualifying players in 2012 were chosen based on World Ranking in the June 2011, right after the WTTC finished. At that time Wang Hao was ranked 1st, Zhang Jike was ranked 2nd, Timo Boll was Ranked 3rd, Ma Lin was ranked 4th and Ma Long (who was coming off an injury) was ranked 5th. If the rules were the first 2 players in the rankings as of any time after October of 2011 and certainly by April 2012, Ma Long would have been in the 2012 Olympics. But the first 2 qualifiers were chosen based on world rankings that were 15 months before the start of the London games because the June 2011 World Rankings came out on May 15th.

I think the qualification process for Rio was better. But, I think it was still flawed. One positive side of how China handled things by pulling out after they had 1 player qualify for singles was: THEY LEFT MORE SLOTS FOR PLAYERS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES TO EARN THEIR SPOT THROUGH THE QUALIFICATION TOURNAMENT. :)

I hope this information helps. But if anyone wants to do a google search for Olympic Qualification Process Table Tennis, it is easy to find the rules for both 2012 and 2016.

I debated some of this on mytt and it is mostly true, but not 100%.

In 2012, China could also have removed Wang Hao and sent Ma Long. But China has a tradition of sending World Champions and Olympic Champions. That is where Ma Long had not proven himself yet. Someone listed all the people who had played the Olympics for China and the correlation with WTTC and Olympic medals was 100% - basically, you could not be a World Champion in the previous cycle or two and get left off with a few wrinkles here and there unless you had been superseded or retired.

The other thing is that Japan also had to reject Yoshimura and put in Niwa. This was because Japan said that the top two ranked players at the end of tournament play by a certain date in 2015 would play Singles and the third would join them on the team - this ended up being Mizutani, Niwa and Yoshimura. However, Niwa was higher ranked at that date but Yoshimura overtook him in 2016 before the final list came out from the ITTF. So Japan held to its original selection and rejected Yoshimura for Niwa.

I used to feel strongly about this whole thing of selecting this player over that player and I still do. But I have heard some coaches I respect view it entirely differently and consider Zhang Jike's big game play to be a real individual phenomenon and not a meaningful vice. They believe that ZJK enters the zone when he feels challenged and that that aspect of his personality will always lead Liu Guoliang to respect him and give him a chance even when he is not performing well 24/7/365 due to other pressures.

BTW, Hong Kong had two players qualify on the 2nd day but they were both rejected for the top 20 stalwarts. I believe one of them will be the 3rd member in the team event though.

Siva Schopenhauer
08-10-2016, 06:21 PM
Ai Fukura vs Li Xiaoxia Semifinal HD Full Match


https://openload.co/embed/6wdqvIfMqSE/2016.08.10_%E9%87%8C%E7%B4%84%E5%A5%A7%E9%81%8B_%E5%85%B5%E4%B9%93%E7%90%83_%E5%A5%B3%E5%96%AE4%E5%BC%B7_%E7%A6%8Fvs%E6%9D%8E%E6%9B%89%E9%9C%9E_ELTA_HD_1080P_%E5%9C%8B%E8%AA%9E.mkv.mp4

steffi
08-11-2016, 12:27 AM
I wonder if this Australian knows anything.

fz29888
08-11-2016, 12:34 AM
Women's bronze medal live:
http://chaochaolive.icntv.xyz/channel/sports/cctv-5

TableTennisDaily
08-11-2016, 12:41 AM
Now Live! Bronze Medal Match! Ai Fukuhara vs Kim Song! Who's tuned in?

UK users live stream here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/olympics/36688417

10597

Thomas Jeffcott
08-11-2016, 12:44 AM
Li Xiaoxia wins the final I reckon

TTHopeful
08-11-2016, 12:44 AM
Come on Ai Fukuhara!

steffi
08-11-2016, 12:46 AM
Fukuhara needs to keep the ball away from PRK's forehand.

TableTennisDaily
08-11-2016, 12:47 AM
i see a 7 set coming

Dan
08-11-2016, 12:49 AM
2-0

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fz29888
08-11-2016, 12:50 AM
Women's Singles Final Live stream between Ding Ning and Li Xiaoxia will be here:
Guangdong sports: http://chaochaolive.icntv.xyz/channel/sports/guangdong-sports

Beijing sports http://chaochaolive.icntv.xyz/channel/sports/beijingtv6

Shanghai sports: http://chaochaolive.icntv.xyz/channel/sports/shanghai-sports

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 12:55 AM
4-0 for prk for sure. fukuhara just cant handle teh constant change in variation spin and tempo. kim has also great serve and FH attack

NichoMarpaunk
08-11-2016, 12:57 AM
3 - 0 DPR will won bronze i think :/

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 01:13 AM
is it me or anyone else also observed that after the timeout in the 4th game, fukuhara's FH was more active with bigger motion better timing landing more far on kim's side of the table.

steffi
08-11-2016, 01:14 AM
is it me or anyone else also observed that after the timeout in the 4th game, fukuhara's FH was more active with bigger motion better timing landing more far on kim's side of the table.

I think she must have watched how Ding Ning played the spin but there's more patience to Fukuhara's game now.

She just needs to keep the ball away from PRK's forehand to have a chance.

NichoMarpaunk
08-11-2016, 01:20 AM
damn streaming error at 9 - 4 :(

101010
08-11-2016, 01:36 AM
http://chaochaolive.icntv.xyz/channel/sports/guangdong-sports

final match warmup

steffi
08-11-2016, 01:37 AM
How will timeout work? Don't they have the same coach?

Steven
08-11-2016, 01:38 AM
How will timeout work? Don't they have the same coach?

No coaches when it's China vs China. Same for most other countries.

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 01:39 AM
How will timeout work? Don't they have the same coach?

in china vs china matches they dont have a coach at singles. most of the times they use the timeout to relax and stop the opponent from coming back when they are ahead in score and opponent seems to getting into the zone . they also seem to get the timeout in the most crucial set

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 01:40 AM
hahaah ding ning getting lucky with a net ball and choing in lxx face . love it :P

Steven
08-11-2016, 01:42 AM
hahaah ding ning getting lucky with a net ball and choing in lxx face . love it :P

And then Ding Ning fault serves and Li Xiaoxia does the same thing haha. Things getting serious already.

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 01:43 AM
damn too many unforced errors from LXX

Michal_Z
08-11-2016, 01:44 AM
It is really sad that it took fast 3 sets for Ai to realise the right tactics against the defender..
At 10:2 in the third, that is where Fukuhara started to play what she should play from the beginning..
Too late though

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 01:46 AM
And then Ding Ning fault serves and Li Xiaoxia does the same thing haha. Things getting serious already.

crap i didnt see that, i was focused on how frustrated DN was after the lost serve

steffi
08-11-2016, 01:49 AM
Told you the game with the chopper took it out on Ding Ning's shoulder she can only win this in straight sets otherwise she won't last.

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 01:53 AM
lol almost all DN points so far are LXX's unforced errors

NichoMarpaunk
08-11-2016, 01:57 AM
can anyone send direct link to streaming ? the cctvs didnt work for me, keep replaying from the beggining of the match

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 02:00 AM
I never thought it would go that smooth. I really thought a 7-gamer was in store, even that I would lose the match. Seeing her performance against FTW and the other matches, I feel that this is the best Fukuhara ever."

"From yesterday night to this morning, I felt very uneasy. I let coach Kong know that he be prepared for a 7-gamer. It probably wouldn't be an easy win. Coach Kong told me to fight it point by point."

"I just played each match with a normal heart. Till now I didn't the disappoint the leaders' expectations. My mind right now is free of any burden. I will play it point by point, and enjoy my condition and technique on the court.

"There is only 6 to 7 days left in my table tennis career. No regret whatsoever." ~ LXX about fukuhara

watching their game definitely gives a different impression on what's going on in players minds/psychology

Cornel
08-11-2016, 02:05 AM
can anyone send direct link to streaming ? the cctvs didnt work for me, keep replaying from the beggining of the match

http://aovivonatv.com/assistir-sportv-15-ao-vivo-em-hd-online-sem-travar/

just get rid of the ads and there you go

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 02:10 AM
commentators of BBC dont know what they are talking about but sometimes their comments are interesting and really funny.

"LXX knew she had to threw the kitchen sink @ DN" hilarious!

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 02:22 AM
LXX is playing at her full potential finally. patience, timing and correct decision making against DN tactics. All she's got to do is take it point by point and gold is hers

NichoMarpaunk
08-11-2016, 02:24 AM
commentators of BBC dont know what they are talking about but sometimes their comments are interesting and really funny.

"LXX knew she had to threw the kitchen sink @ DN" hilarious!

can u give the link to bbc stream ? i visit this link http://www.bbc.com/sport/live/olympics/36688417

all it shows is a loop of some promotional video...

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 02:25 AM
can u give the link to bbc stream ? i visit this link http://www.bbc.com/sport/live/olympics/36688417

all it shows is a loop of some promotional video...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/olympics/36688417

oops its the same as your link. you need VPN to connect with a british IP thats probably the reason (i guess you dont have vpn)

NichoMarpaunk
08-11-2016, 02:26 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/olympics/36688417

oops its the same as your link. you need VPN to connect with a british IP thats probably the reason (i guess you dont have vpn)

i use UK vpn, it works fine yesterday, but for now im not sure why its not working lol :3

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 02:26 AM
LXX is playing at her full potential finally. patience, timing and correct decision making against DN tactics. All she's got to do is take it point by point and gold is hers

rofl she squandered 4 game points right after I wrote that. at least she got it go LXX

Cornel
08-11-2016, 02:35 AM
7-gamer !!!

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 02:43 AM
damn LXX keeps missing and hesitating.

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 02:51 AM
crap what a disappointment. again like wttc 2015 the loser lost the match more like ding ning won it

steffi
08-11-2016, 02:56 AM
crap what a disappointment. again like wttc 2015 the loser lost the match more like ding ning won it

Well I'm happy to see Ding Ning win but I think she deserves more credit for her serves late in the game.

redonix76
08-11-2016, 03:06 AM
I don't think it's fair when some people say Ding Ning didn't really beat LXX and that LXX defeated herself. There is a difference yes, but physical, mental, skills and experience goes together. Ding Ning beat LXX and won gold either way and is the better player at this pint in time. I give credit where it's due and congrats to Ding Ning.

Greco
08-11-2016, 03:23 AM
We all imagined that final, but i guess no one considered Kim Song I for the bronze medal (at least i didnt).
I like it, i wanted Ding Ning to win, it's a pity for Ai, but Kim did an excellent tournament (and she seemed to be very nice :3), she should play more international tournaments from now on.

VicVoc32
08-11-2016, 09:28 AM
Great win from Ding Ning, congratulation. Still more impressed with Li XiaoXio game style, such a amazing semifinal from her!

Lan
08-11-2016, 11:48 AM
I really want Ma Long to take this, but it always takes me back to 2014 World Cup. What do you think is going to happen based both ZJK's and ML's current performances?

mr. tom
08-11-2016, 12:46 PM
could go both ways

UpSideDownCarl
08-11-2016, 12:48 PM
I really want Ma Long to take this, but it always takes me back to 2014 World Cup. What do you think is going to happen based both ZJK's and ML's current performances?

Watch the matches and enjoy. We can't predict because both of these guys are such great players that nobody can tell what can happen. It could be 4-0, it could be a 7 game barn burner. Either could win. Just enjoy the show.

If the semi-finals go how everyone thinks they will, this will be the finals that most of the TT world has been waiting for since 2011.


Sent from Deep Space by Abacus

fanTT
08-11-2016, 01:16 PM
Agree with UpSideDownCarl (http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/member.php?1090-UpSideDownCarl). If ML and ZJK will be in the final then once and for all there will be decided who is the real champ. And finally those talks "despite he lost ,ZJK is still the best.." and bla bla bla will over!!!

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 01:18 PM
Agree with UpSideDownCarl (http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/member.php?1090-UpSideDownCarl). If ML and ZJK will be in the final then once and for all there will be decided who is the real champ. And finally those talks "despite he lost ,ZJK is still the best.." and bla bla bla will over!!!


actually this is what ma long fans use to say in 3 wttc and one world cup but ok! no harm intended

pavlik89
08-11-2016, 01:18 PM
Ding Ning vs Li Xiaoxia Highlights HD FINAL



http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4oadtv

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 01:20 PM
Well I'm happy to see Ding Ning win but I think she deserves more credit for her serves late in the game.


For sure a good tactic is always a good tactic! If the other player misses of your clever serves then well done . But to be honest the match after 3-2 was in LXX hands and she let it slip away miss after miss, she was too eager to destroy DN and it backfired. In the last points of the decider DN definitely risked and got lucky, well played indeed

MDanielCRO
08-11-2016, 01:25 PM
Streams for bronze medal and final

UK Stream from BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/olympics/36707711

World Wide Stream: http://chaochaolive.icntv.xyz/channel/sports/cctv-5

fanTT
08-11-2016, 01:26 PM
actually this is what ma long fans use to say in 3 wttc and one world cup but ok! no harm intended

Might be. Also earlier were talks zjk is not in shape, traumas and so on, but now I think they both are injury free and in good shape (Aren't they?). Personally to me there is no difference who wins I just want to see awesome fight!

Actually i don't know for whom to be rooting for. I always admire Samsonov style and he has such an oppurtunity to get a medal, but ML vs ZJK also would be great :D

MDanielCRO
08-11-2016, 01:28 PM
Might be. Also earlier were talks zjk is not in shape, traumas and so on, but now I think they both are injury free and in good shape (Aren't they?). Personally to me there is no difference who wins I just want to see awesome fight!

Actually i don't know for whom to be rooting for. I always admire Samsonov style and he has such an oppurtunity to get a medal, but ML vs ZJK also would be great :D

in my opinion, we should all always be against China, isn't it exciting to see any chinese player losing?

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 01:29 PM
I don't think it's fair when some people say Ding Ning didn't really beat LXX and that LXX defeated herself. There is a difference yes, but physical, mental, skills and experience goes together. Ding Ning beat LXX and won gold either way and is the better player at this pint in time. I give credit where it's due and congrats to Ding Ning.


Well fair or not LXX made a miss after miss after miss on relatively easy balls. DN definitely wanted it more I give her that, LXX was better in tactics and execution, but the patience & focus simply was not there at crucial points in the last two games. When LXX played with all her might I only saw one player at the table.

In two sets she was losing 4 points down and came back convincingly same thing at the deciding set

fanTT
08-11-2016, 01:33 PM
in my opinion, we should all always be against China, isn't it exciting to see any chinese player losing?
I am always are. But the only reason why I would like to see China's both in the final is to see who is who :)

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 01:39 PM
Might be. Also earlier were talks zjk is not in shape, traumas and so on, but now I think they both are injury free and in good shape (Aren't they?). Personally to me there is no difference who wins I just want to see awesome fight!

Actually i don't know for whom to be rooting for. I always admire Samsonov style and he has such an oppurtunity to get a medal, but ML vs ZJK also would be great :D


people need to understand that ZJK's injuries are not fake, they are not an excuse for losing against fegerl or lundqvist or whatever, but an injury definitely comes with a price. Boll for example simply was not himself in WTTTC 2016, you could tell he has not recovered full, michael maze another good example.

He came back and played great in the european cup, winning against an inform ovtcharov , but you could see he was not as mobile as before

fanTT
08-11-2016, 01:43 PM
people need to understand that ZJK's injuries are not fake, they are not an excuse for losing against fegerl or lundqvist or whatever, but an injury definitely comes with a price. Boll for example simply was not himself in WTTTC 2016, you could tell he has not recovered full, michael maze another good example.

He came back and played great in the european cup, winning against an inform ovtcharov , but you could see he was not as mobile as before

So does ZJK is fine now or not?? I don't understand.. If he still struggles then go Samsonov and Mizutani!!

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 01:48 PM
So does ZJK is fine now or not?? I don't understand.. If he still struggles then go Samsonov and Mizutani!!


Only zjk knows that, I guess he is fine, I saw him reaching some balls that few months ago he was just staring at them. Now I feel somehow sorry for mizu I just cant see how can he pull it of against ma long

Mizu vs vladi would be even more interesting final :P

NichoMarpaunk
08-11-2016, 01:50 PM
Any working link that will stream semifnals?

download "cloud vpn" on your mobile phone then go to this link http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/olympics/36688417

set the vpn as "UK", working perfect for me

fanTT
08-11-2016, 01:52 PM
Only zjk knows that, I guess he is fine, I saw him reaching some balls that few months ago he was just staring at them. Now I feel somehow sorry for mizu I just cant see how can he pull it of against ma long

Mizu vs vladi would be even more interesting final :P

Damm!! How i did not come to this idea earlier. ML and ZJK face off in Bronze medal match and Samsonov vs Mizutani in Final And all my wishes would be fulfilled :D :D

Siva Schopenhauer
08-11-2016, 01:59 PM
Hi guys, no vpn needed, get wired at
http://chaochaolive.icntv.xyz/channel/sports/cctv-5

Start chooing with Ma long. Jetzt los, Match is gonna start :)

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 02:00 PM
rofl bbc isnt even connected yet

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 02:02 PM
download "cloud vpn" on your mobile phone then go to this link http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/olympics/36688417

set the vpn as "UK", working perfect for me

that link is not valid its the womens medals matches

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/olympics/36707711 here you go

fanTT
08-11-2016, 02:05 PM
does BBC streams in HD?

Siva Schopenhauer
08-11-2016, 02:08 PM
getting Crazy fazy

mr. tom
08-11-2016, 02:11 PM
Ma Long going smooth

Xylit
08-11-2016, 02:14 PM
1:0 for Ma Long so far. You can also use "Hotspot Shield VPN" and set location GreatBritain there. Then the BBC stream works. The software is free.

Siva Schopenhauer
08-11-2016, 02:16 PM
Ma Long back in Ma Long Mode after all at Semifinals :)

Richie
08-11-2016, 02:16 PM
This is fantastic table tennis, both are playing out of their skin, amazing topspin to topspin rallies!

mr. tom
08-11-2016, 02:18 PM
so far Ma Long is having Mizutani for breakfast

Siva Schopenhauer
08-11-2016, 02:18 PM
It is like Bolt vs Gatlin. Mizutani trailing by a nanosecond during each FH duel. Superhuman reactions from both. Mizu down by 2

mr. tom
08-11-2016, 02:21 PM
If Ma Long doesn't loose his focus for the next set, this match is over.

Siva Schopenhauer
08-11-2016, 02:25 PM
Ma long looks so confident. Choo after choo every 1 min

ttmonster
08-11-2016, 02:25 PM
Thanks to IOC , we learnt that there today that there is a "right baseline" among many other new things in table tennis

UpSideDownCarl
08-11-2016, 02:26 PM
I am rooting for Samsonov. But I am a realist. I am pretty confident it will end up with ML vs ZJK as the finals. Although I totally love fanTT's idea of them both losing and facing off in the Bronze Medal Match.

As far as ZJK is concerned, he is one strange character. I think a lot of what he does is because he doesn't want to show himself int the smaller tournaments. If he played his real, full game all the time, it would be much easier for other players to adjust adjust to what he does. So I think he hides a lot of his weapons which are spin variation from massive to minimal particularly from the BH.




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MDanielCRO
08-11-2016, 02:29 PM
Any other woldwide working links? I can't run that chinese one

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 02:30 PM
whenever mizu had the chance to open up with a banana flick he won the point, but some times even then ma was pretty well prepared. he just does not let mizu play his game

lawrence.monsieurr
08-11-2016, 02:31 PM
Any other woldwide working links? I can't run that chinese one

http://sporza.be/cm/sporza/Rio-2016/Rio2016_Live Livestream 4

ulrich
08-11-2016, 02:32 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/olympics/36707711 with Beebs (Chrome extension) works great.

Siva Schopenhauer
08-11-2016, 02:33 PM
EXcept for squirmishes in the middle of third set, there are hardly unforced errors from ML. Mizu playing tricks now

MDanielCRO
08-11-2016, 02:34 PM
I think it works only in Belgium :/

steffi
08-11-2016, 02:34 PM
Oh dear it looks like we didn't get a good commentator for this Ma Long, Mizutani final.

Hasn't actually commentated on table tennis yet.

ttmonster
08-11-2016, 02:35 PM
Its possible Carl but like everything else he does it would take a lot of guts to keep doing it , can you imagine playing olympics not knowing whether you can turn it on when you really need it at the international level ? I still think its a simple case of injuries and lack of motivation because of those injuries ...

I am rooting for Samsonov. But I am a realist. I am pretty confident it will end up with ML vs ZJK as the finals. Although I totally love fanTT's idea of them both losing and facing off in the Bronze Medal Match.

As far as ZJK is concerned, he is one strange character. I think a lot of what he does is because he doesn't want to show himself int the smaller tournaments. If he played his real, full game all the time, it would be much easier for other players to adjust adjust to what he does. So I think he hides a lot of his weapons which are spin variation from massive to minimal particularly from the BH.




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steffi
08-11-2016, 02:37 PM
This commentator is hopeless. he's like 'Ma just won that point"

TableTennisDaily
08-11-2016, 02:40 PM
Hey all our latest podcast with Paul Drinkhall live in Rio! Listen in whilst your enjoying the semi finals :) http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/podcast/13633-tabletennisdaily-podcast-14-paul-drinkhall/

ttmonster
08-11-2016, 02:41 PM
Yes , but look at the bright side ...
We learnt a lot about :

1. shape of the ball
2. right baseline
3. taking timeout to discuss with coach what he things about the opportunity , when ML made a comeback to 8-7 ....

You have to hand it to the guy he sounds like somebody with a lot of "winging" experience in writing college essays ....

Oh dear it looks like we didn't get a good commentator for this Ma Long, Mizutani final.

Hasn't actually commentated on table tennis yet.

DaveT
08-11-2016, 02:41 PM
http://sporza.be/cm/sporza/Rio-2016/Rio2016_Live Livestream 4

cheers, perfect, no commentary.
I just can't take that loads of rubbish on the BBC, seriously it's ridiculous.

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 02:42 PM
Its possible Carl but like everything else he does it would take a lot of guts to keep doing it , can you imagine playing olympics not knowing whether you can turn it on when you really need it at the international level ? I still think its a simple case of injuries and lack of motivation because of those injuries ...


I wouldnt be surprised if what carl said was true especially against the chinese players. I dont think there is a reason to hide his A game from other players except maybe boll and ovtcharov, there are countless games in pro tours that we witnessed ZJK winning simply by blocking

Besides ttmonster, dont forget that he is practicing 8 hours a day so its not a case of simply turning it on, its something he has done for years in practice. I know for sure that the chinese are using pro tours as training matches, testing new things/tactics and stuff ( a chinese english speaker translated wu jingping interview in mytt forum)

Siva Schopenhauer
08-11-2016, 02:42 PM
My predictions for this game from day before yesterday was 4-1. For Sammy 2-4. Let's see whether mystic macc works his magic.

Siva Schopenhauer
08-11-2016, 02:50 PM
Ma long using the long toss heavy backspin serve. Sounds like an end. did you guys take a look at show man around 5-3.

Well, Mystic Mac became a bad gig. Except for Troth, Except Jonathan everybody is giving hard time to ML. Olympic wow what can I say?

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 03:00 PM
finally mizu has achieved a breakthrough, regardless the result. His performance is exquisit, I wonder why he didnt play so aggressive in the past years

TableTennisDaily
08-11-2016, 03:00 PM
Jun Mizutani has just won the last 2 sets!! Ma Long leads by 3 games to 2! This is massive!

NichoMarpaunk
08-11-2016, 03:01 PM
omg so intense 3 - 2 now

great play by jun but i think ML will take this 4 -3 or 4 -2

Ilia Minkin
08-11-2016, 03:01 PM
Mizutani is stepping around like a Boss! Time to take Ma Long into a bar.

fanTT
08-11-2016, 03:01 PM
When mizu is playing aggresive and Ma long start shaking its Mizu points. We raraly see Ma missing simple shot. Will see will he manage to handle this

lawrence.monsieurr
08-11-2016, 03:01 PM
cheers, perfect, no commentary.
I just can't take that loads of rubbish on the BBC, seriously it's ridiculous.

Me neither lol, it just hurts my ears. I am 20 now, I would like to have them for as long as I can, without anyone hurting them

mr. tom
08-11-2016, 03:02 PM
that was a 7-3 lead...

Siva Schopenhauer
08-11-2016, 03:03 PM
Did ML get tired?

mr. tom
08-11-2016, 03:03 PM
wow, :-)

Siva Schopenhauer
08-11-2016, 03:04 PM
what a point!

Cornel
08-11-2016, 03:04 PM
What a rally, goddamn!

mr. tom
08-11-2016, 03:04 PM
point of the tournament?

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 03:04 PM
ma long beast mode but also lucky with 3 net balls while mizu had him on the ropes

ulrich
08-11-2016, 03:05 PM
What a point!!!!!

matzreenzi
08-11-2016, 03:05 PM
What a pointt...

Lan
08-11-2016, 03:06 PM
Mizutani is stepping around like a Boss! Time to take Ma Long into a bar.
Can you please send me the link of the match bbc and the chinese one are not working for me even with vpn

TableTennisDaily
08-11-2016, 03:06 PM
point of the tournament?

Definitely!

Siva Schopenhauer
08-11-2016, 03:07 PM
Real Choo's come out of Stomach. When it happens, lets pussyfoot

steffi
08-11-2016, 03:07 PM
Mitzutani's going to have a problem with the ball again soon.

fanTT
08-11-2016, 03:09 PM
As I wrote to my friend That awesome long point was crucial :(

Siva Schopenhauer
08-11-2016, 03:10 PM
expecting heavy backpsin serve

Semi Final Samsonov vs Zhang Jike
UK Stream from BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/olympics/36707711

World Wide Stream: http://chaochaolive.icntv.xyz/channel/sports/cctv-5

ttmonster
08-11-2016, 03:11 PM
anyways ... this was the gem .... when Mizu poped up a Ma Long serve and Ma Long stepped in to loop kill over the table and missed this is what the commentator said ... "that was a massive whiffing , its possible that there is a current of air when you step in so quickly towards to ball" ...

ulrich
08-11-2016, 03:12 PM
Mitzutani's going to have a problem with the ball again soon.

Yeah, if the ball breaks again he probably will have a problem with it.

Siva Schopenhauer
08-11-2016, 03:12 PM
Hard fought victory for MALONG. Kudos to him. Ma finally made it to REAL RIO 2016

ttmonster
08-11-2016, 03:12 PM
I think the OP is talking about the commentary .. .

Yeah, if the ball breaks again he probably will have a problem with it.

steffi
08-11-2016, 03:12 PM
Ma needs a softer touch game. Zhang Jike will flick some of those longer pushes back.

TableTennisDaily
08-11-2016, 03:13 PM
Ma Long is the first player into the Rio Olympic FINAL with a 4-2 victory over Jun Mizutani!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CplYc6DWIAAzD7v.jpg:large

ulrich
08-11-2016, 03:13 PM
I think the OP is talking about the commentary .. .

You could be right. The commentator talked about Juns equipment though, not the ball. :)

NichoMarpaunk
08-11-2016, 03:15 PM
when will zhang jike vs samsonov start ?

roger
08-11-2016, 03:15 PM
Very bad commentator, made a lot of mistakes:confused:

Siva Schopenhauer
08-11-2016, 03:18 PM
There is a interview with Ma long on CCTV. If there are some chinese speaking pals here could u give us some thoughts on what he said?

TableTennisDaily
08-11-2016, 03:18 PM
when will zhang jike vs samsonov start ?

Now :)

mr. tom
08-11-2016, 03:19 PM
A bit weird seeing Samsonov with a coach; if I remember correctly he used to play without one.

karibaci
08-11-2016, 03:19 PM
well - we've just had the gem there... Zhang Jayk (!):eek:

NichoMarpaunk
08-11-2016, 03:21 PM
is it still the same link for bbc ?

Siva Schopenhauer
08-11-2016, 03:21 PM
samsonov looks really worked up.

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 03:21 PM
A bit weird seeing Samsonov with a coach; if I remember correctly he used to play without one.


that only happened in a few pro tours this year, sometimes I guess his coach cannot attend or maybe the belarus federation cannot pay. they dont invest much money in TT

karibaci
08-11-2016, 03:23 PM
wooow "twisted fishing line"

steffi
08-11-2016, 03:24 PM
"Twisted Wiggle"

NichoMarpaunk
08-11-2016, 03:25 PM
can someone give me link to bbc ? the old link stopped working, and i browsed the web but the video is not playable anymore

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 03:27 PM
can someone give me link to bbc ? the old link stopped working, and i browsed the web but the video is not playable anymore


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/olympics/36707711 I pasted that link earlier, its still thesame and im still online watching. maybe reconnect to your VPN or change ur british IP

ulrich
08-11-2016, 03:28 PM
can someone give me link to bbc ? the old link stopped working, and i browsed the web but the video is not playable anymore

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/olympics/36707711

karibaci
08-11-2016, 03:29 PM
http://live.shwidget.com/static/freeplay/393691864386250.html

steffi
08-11-2016, 03:29 PM
"Really interesting backhand. Snap backhand, Snaking return."

pavlik89
08-11-2016, 03:31 PM
Ma Long vs Jun Mizutani Highlights 1/2


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4oatds

steffi
08-11-2016, 03:31 PM
"Inability to return the return he received"

ttmonster
08-11-2016, 03:31 PM
I can't turn off the commentary , can someone go and knock this guy off his "rocking" chair !! He has no business doing what he is doing ... which is just spoiling the fun for 99.9% of the table tennis fans who know more than him ...

Steven
08-11-2016, 03:32 PM
I just realized... If Liu Guoliang coaches Zhang Jike to a victory here, he can just sit back and enjoy the other two matches tonight. If he doesn't... He'll have a tough day and he'll be coaching two very important games tonight. :)

TableTennisDaily
08-11-2016, 03:32 PM
can someone give me link to bbc ? the old link stopped working, and i browsed the web but the video is not playable anymore

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/olympics/36707711

Siva Schopenhauer
08-11-2016, 03:32 PM
ZJK doesnt really carea about the support from LGL. He is at work unlike Ma

TableTennisDaily
08-11-2016, 03:36 PM
What happened to Zhang Jike's fist pumps we saw in the earlier rounds

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 03:37 PM
"Really interesting backhand. Snap backhand, Snaking return."

Come guys give him a break he knows crap about TT :P im actually enjoying a lot his commentary. Only players can actually provide accurate commentary in TT its the nature of the game

classic ZJK so far , impatient trying to finish the points early with many mistakes, but 100 % focus on crucial points

Siva Schopenhauer
08-11-2016, 03:39 PM
What happened to Zhang Jike's fist pumps we saw in the earlier rounds
Holding it for finals :D

Siva Schopenhauer
08-11-2016, 03:41 PM
ZJK conditions looks so perfect. On full focus mode

ttmonster
08-11-2016, 03:44 PM
They are making a mockery of our sport and we are not allowed to express our frustration ?

Come guys give him a break he knows crap about TT :P im actually enjoying a lot his commentary. Only players can actually provide accurate commentary in TT its the nature of the game

classic ZJK so far , impatient trying to finish the points early with many mistakes, but 100 % focus on crucial points

karibaci
08-11-2016, 03:45 PM
well... I'd love to see Samsonov win over ZJK - and than go on to win the finals, something like a crowning point of his career. But I have a gut feeling it just won't happen...

Siva Schopenhauer
08-11-2016, 03:47 PM
Classic ZJK, sleeping till opponent scores 8 points in a set and then waking up :D

legitkim
08-11-2016, 03:47 PM
To be honest, the commentator is terrible..

steffi
08-11-2016, 03:49 PM
So Zhang is using Butterfly Viscaria?

Lots of people playing $400+ for a paddle he doesn't even use.

Siva Schopenhauer
08-11-2016, 03:50 PM
Samsonov AKA Smirkanov :D

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 03:51 PM
They are making a mockery of our sport and we are not allowed to express our frustration ?

of course you can express urself :P nothing wrong with that. its just that his commentary is justified by his ignorance, many people still believe that TT is a basement sport but i dont blame them for being ignorant

ulrich
08-11-2016, 03:51 PM
I'm so happy that the bronze match and the final is televised, so I don't have to listen more to this bellend.

Siva Schopenhauer
08-11-2016, 03:53 PM
ZJK woke up again at 7th point. Stay awake ZJK :D

karibaci
08-11-2016, 03:54 PM
oh, it's a pity

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 03:55 PM
ZJK too good in crucial points, the sets were close only because he made rushing errors. its hilarious he didnt change at all on his attitude after all these years

Siva Schopenhauer
08-11-2016, 03:56 PM
Many keep underestimating ZJK for his poor performances in world touts. There is no other one whose mental game is as strong as his. Just imagine what happened with Ma long during 3rd and 4th set. There is the difference :)

ttmonster
08-11-2016, 03:56 PM
But its not justified that he is assigned to be the commentator for one of the most popular sports in Olympics and elsewhere around the world ... thats the whole point ... and the fact that there are perfectly capable commentators sitting at home in the same timezone ... btw , I also find Ian Marshall's commentary atrocious ... his is even worse considering he has been involved with the game for so many years ... god only knows how he holds on to his position ...


of course you can express urself :P nothing wrong with that. its just that his commentary is justified by his ignorance, many people still believe that TT is a basement sport but i dont blame them for being ignorant

karibaci
08-11-2016, 03:57 PM
of course you can express urself :P nothing wrong with that. its just that his commentary is justified by his ignorance, many people still believe that TT is a basement sport but i dont blame them for being ignorant

yes, you're right, we don't blame him for his ignorance, it's rather expressing a concern about BBC, can't they really find a decent commentator? How about asking a pro player? A former pro player? It doesn't take that much of intelligence, does it? To learn from tennis, for instance, or soccer...

legitkim
08-11-2016, 04:00 PM
Commentator:
"Yes, stop clapping"
WTF??

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 04:00 PM
But its not justified that he is assigned to be the commentator for one of the most popular sports in Olympics and elsewhere around the world ... thats the whole point ... and the fact that there are perfectly capable commentators sitting at home in the same timezone ... btw , I also find Ian Marshall's commentary atrocious ... his is even worse considering he has been involved with the game for so many years ... god only knows how he holds on to his position ...

I think it is justified, western TV doesnot care for TT because of the small money pool it offers, so why hire a TT expert and pay him when they wont get a sufficient payback? sports are also business, it would be great though if they hired Bobrow for example just to broadcast the olympics. But Im not BBC staff to know that

AS for marshall I agree 100 % with you, I guess he knows the right people

p.s. to give you an example, waldner and appelgren stopped cooperating with swedish TV because they didnt show TT at all and they wanted somehow to protest. and we are talking about frickin sweden here the country that revolutionized and brought us modern TT

steffi
08-11-2016, 04:03 PM
"Kind of waffle coned it"

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 04:03 PM
yes, you're right, we don't blame him for his ignorance, it's rather expressing a concern about BBC, can't they really find a decent commentator? How about asking a pro player? A former pro player? It doesn't take that much of intelligence, does it? To learn from tennis, for instance, or soccer...

totally agree with you, but remember that channels are all about broadcasting money via commercials. Your questions are what im asking myself also...who knows what they are thinking

Siva Schopenhauer
08-11-2016, 04:05 PM
Finally chole :)

ttmonster
08-11-2016, 04:06 PM
Now the guy is saying that Zhang Jike serves his inside out serve with backhand !!! ROFLAO

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 04:07 PM
Now the guy is saying that Zhang Jike serves his inside out serve with backhand !!! ROFLAO


hahahhaa i laughed so hard also. see? it isnt that hard to actually enjoy his ignorance :PP

steffi
08-11-2016, 04:07 PM
"That serve is like he's fly fishing. I'm not sure if he's contacts with this forehand or backhand when he finally touches the ball."

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 04:09 PM
"samsonov kept it simple"

finally an accurate phrase depicting the game!

Siva Schopenhauer
08-11-2016, 04:12 PM
what a point?

fanTT
08-11-2016, 04:12 PM
LGL by screaming trying to wake up the ZJK :DDDD

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 04:12 PM
these olympics must be vladi's most lucky tournament

Siva Schopenhauer
08-11-2016, 04:13 PM
zhang jike looks injured at 10-7. Hope he didn't have disc prolapse or something at knee. Keeping fingers crossed :D

UpSideDownCarl
08-11-2016, 04:13 PM
This commentator is hopeless. he's like 'Ma just won that point"

Well, actually, I think he does know he can turn it on when he wants to.

In the China Trails for 2016 WTTC, ZJK took care of ML in a best of NINE 5-1. That is big.

In one of those two tournaments in the spring Japan Open then Korean Open, the first one, ZJK went head to head in the finals and ZJK won. The second one ZJK did not show up mentally and lost in first round.

I think that is on purpose. And I am not sure he played full in Japan Open either.

I have seen a few tournaments like German Open 2015 where ZJK is up 3-1 and 5-1 and then just stopped playing. It could be because of something else. But I think he is a head case and I think he may be playing Jedi Mind Tricks. I know Wang Hao used the short game and his high level Jedi Mind Tricks on ML in 3 WTTC semifinal matches: 2009, 2011 and 2013.

I am hoping ML can withstand ZJK's Jedi skills and mind tricks. We will see.


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TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 04:15 PM
zhang jike like "stfu all of you" gotta love the guy

karibaci
08-11-2016, 04:15 PM
thats how Samsonov should have played, quick snappy, surprising ZJK with a sudden short ball, 120% concentrated

fanTT
08-11-2016, 04:16 PM
ZJK arrogance is back :D

mr. tom
08-11-2016, 04:16 PM
what was he trying to say? Sssssjt, this wasn't the important match yet?

Siva Schopenhauer
08-11-2016, 04:16 PM
Everybody stay silent. ZJK's expression, cool man :)

ZJK vs ML. The TT world did Tapas at Himalayan caves for 5 years to get the boon :)

TableTennisDaily
08-11-2016, 04:17 PM
It's decided! Zhang Jike will play Ma Long in the FINAL of the Rio Olympics after a 4-1 victory over Samsonov!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cpll6GHW8AA6Up_.jpg:large

steffi
08-11-2016, 04:18 PM
"Deep in the rhubarb"

Siva Schopenhauer
08-11-2016, 04:18 PM
Is there any one much cooler than ZJK at big events? My money gotta show it :)

MDanielCRO
08-11-2016, 04:22 PM
when is the final?

Siva Schopenhauer
08-11-2016, 04:23 PM
This is so funny, many think ZJK has lost it after 2012. In FB, ML fans grew exponentially after 2014. But, what they don't about ZJK is that he is ZJK. He plays tricks, acts childishly and fools everyone with his performance. Deep down, he knows there is no one out there who can beat him at his best day. And when ZJK decides today is the best day it becomes one.

Friday is the real day for ML to prove himself that he is better. Let's see :)

This is Zhang Jike's daily mental state but he has to acts submissively out of social pressue. However, Can a Cock become a Hen? :)

Being proud ans super confident is part of the equation and they say it is arrogance :)


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pavlik89
08-11-2016, 04:31 PM
Zhang Jike vs Vladimir Samsonov Highlights 1/2]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4ob4tl

eyepop
08-11-2016, 04:33 PM
when is the final?

Tomorrow morning 2:30 in your time zone. Pozdrav

UpSideDownCarl
08-11-2016, 04:34 PM
This is so funny, many think ZJK has lost it after 2012. In FB, ML fans grew exponentially after 2014. But, what they don't about ZJK is that he is ZJK. He plays tricks, acts childishly and fools everyone with his performance. Deep down, he knows there is no one out there who can beat him at his best day. And when ZJK decides today is the best day it becomes one.

Friday is the real day for ML to prove himself that he is better. Let's see :)

This is Zhang Jike's Daily mental state but he acts like submissive because of social pressue. However, a cock can never becomes a hen :)


10612

And I honestly don't think he had played even half yet in this tournament.


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UpSideDownCarl
08-11-2016, 04:35 PM
when is the final?

Tonight, 20:30 Rio time.


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Siva Schopenhauer
08-11-2016, 04:36 PM
And I honestly don't think he had played even half yet in this tournament.


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I didn't understand, you meant half of his potential?

Steven
08-11-2016, 04:37 PM
Bronze medal match should be exciting!

https://i.imgsafe.org/c9b519b835.png

eyepop
08-11-2016, 04:39 PM
Tonight, 20:30 Rio time.


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Isn't it 21:30 Rio time (and 2:30 tomorrow Zadar time)? 20:30 Rio time should be 3rd place match.

TTFrenzy
08-11-2016, 04:42 PM
Tonight, 20:30 Rio time.


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20:30 is the bronze medal match and 21:30 the final in rio time guys. just double checked it to be sure.

Brazil is 4 hours behind GMT +00 (UK TIME) for those who are watching from europe and want to conver the time