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Dan
12-14-2016, 08:07 PM
Hey all,

We have just released our latest TableTennisDaily review on the Butterfly Viscaria blade with world top 50 player Liam Pitchford! It was fantastic to spend the day with Liam prior to his European qualifying match between England and Greece. Before the match I got some time with Liam to review the Butterfly Viscaria blade which Liam uses as his blade of choice. The Viscaria has been a very popular blade for a long time, and was made even more famous after London 2012 Olympic Champion Zhang Jike started using it.

Written in-depth review of the Butterfly Viscaria blade in the TTD Review Centre here. (https://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/equipment/blades/7164-viscaria)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6X0bHFXhr4

Have you, or do you use this blade? Any questions, leave below guys :) I was completely surprised by the sheer speed and spin Liam puts on the ball!

AndySmith
12-14-2016, 09:39 PM
My question - what did you think of Stoke?

phamster
12-14-2016, 10:08 PM
second !! nice video - excellent

keep up the great work on topics like this using real high level players (up close and personal)

the viscara is one of those legendary blades that need its own review done in your style <-- i am glad you finally did it on a legacy blade.

the flex and power and crispyness is what makes this blade so good for so many.. though the heavier ones are the ones real hitters use..

i wonder on Zhang Jike's blade what is the weight that he plays with? also with Liam how many blades does he carry? his main and how many backups?

Ilia Minkin
12-14-2016, 10:12 PM
Liam's backhand counterloop is sick.

TTHopeful
12-14-2016, 11:44 PM
Liam's backhand flick is textbook! His forehand also looks like Ma Long's on the follow through.

Tinykin
12-15-2016, 08:54 PM
Excellent review as always.

Suga D
12-15-2016, 10:20 PM
Just managed to watch the whole review.
I agree.
Brillant!
[Emoji106]

Baal
12-15-2016, 11:43 PM
Great blade. Great player. My only complaint is that many years ago they decided to stop making in in ST. Why? Who knows?

ttpshot
12-16-2016, 12:58 AM
Great blade. Great player. My only complaint is that many years ago they decided to stop making in in ST. Why? Who knows?

The answer from Butterfly is always "there's not enough demand". They do recognize the need for ST/AN hence the new models almost always have full range of grip options and gradualy shift towards FL only.

zaw thwe
12-16-2016, 01:27 AM
Dan please review about timoboll spirit:-)

Shuki
12-16-2016, 04:03 AM
Dan please review about timoboll spirit:-)

The review would be exactly the same, it's the same paddle with a different handle.

TurboZ
12-16-2016, 07:06 AM
Thanks for another top grade review from TTD! Wish Dan can do the new HL5 next time to complete this Olympics cycle. :o Nothing can beat a comparison test of Viscaria vs HL5 to see who is the winner. That must be epic! :cool:

road
12-16-2016, 08:20 AM
http://www.butterfly-china.com/cn/?p=72&a=view&r=285 excellent version Viscaria

road
12-16-2016, 09:15 AM
this version has a very good build quality. This version is protected against forgery. In China the league half of the players playing this version

http://www.butterfly-china.com/cn/?p=72&a=view&r=285 excellent version Viscaria

http://www.butterfly-china.com/cn/solution/a.php?a=solution_barcode

1408yuan / 6,8 $ = 207 $

who are interested in this version, I am ready to help buy a blade of this release

I can clarify the exact weight of the blade

Dan
12-20-2016, 04:20 PM
My question - what did you think of Stoke?

https://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/images/rainystoke.jpg

:D

I didn't get to see much of Stoke but a few of my friends went to watch the Greece vs England match and had a great time.


second !! nice video - excellent

i wonder on Zhang Jike's blade what is the weight that he plays with? also with Liam how many blades does he carry? his main and how many backups?

Thanks for the comments Phamster, that is a good question. I will try to find out about Liam's and get back to you :)


Great blade. Great player. My only complaint is that many years ago they decided to stop making in in ST. Why? Who knows?

Will try to find out for you on this one Baal. I would have thought straight and flare handles were the most popular to.


Dan please review about timoboll spirit:-)

Will see what I can do :)


Thanks for another top grade review from TTD! Wish Dan can do the new HL5 next time to complete this Olympics cycle. :o Nothing can beat a comparison test of Viscaria vs HL5 to see who is the winner. That must be epic! :cool:

Thanks TurboZ, that would be awesome! I will try my best to make this happen.

AndySmith
12-20-2016, 04:38 PM
https://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/images/rainystoke.jpg

:D


Ha ha! Mega. And it turns out that he can!

Baal
12-20-2016, 05:03 PM
As with the Korbel, the first two series of Viscaria were available with ST handles and then they stopped making them that way. Strange decision, also not one they made for all of their blades, just some. Dan, I doubt anyone will tell you why, except for "lack of demand".

The odd thing is that ZJK ALC, which Btfly wants you to buy instead (because it is almost thecsame blade but $50 more) comes in three handle shapes. By almost the same, i mean even closer to Viscaria than TBS.

Of course, you can just buy one of those with ST. But Btfly discontinued Viscaria ST before either of those others were introduced.

bobpuls
12-20-2016, 06:55 PM
guys still ... on the butterfly web page is written that the core is from balsa ... and on the screen shots it looks like balsa.... so why is written it is kiry core ?

AndySmith
12-20-2016, 07:25 PM
guys still ... on the butterfly web page is written that the core is from balsa ... and on the screen shots it looks like balsa.... so why is written it is kiry core ?

Can you post a link please?

Baal
12-20-2016, 10:25 PM
guys still ... on the butterfly web page is written that the core is from balsa ... and on the screen shots it looks like balsa.... so why is written it is kiry core ?

This is one of life's mysteries, but there is no doubt that it is kiri. People have been confused by that for many years. For more than two decades the blade also had the word "perfomance" on it. Another mystery is why it took more than 20 years for Btfly to finally correct it.

Overseer Kevin
07-11-2017, 05:42 PM
I've been a DHS Hurricane Long 5 user for nearly two years now. I've experimented with the Stiga Carbonado 190, Zhang Jike Super ZLC, Inner force ZLC, and recently the Butterfly Viscaria.

I love my Long 5 but last night I played with my Viscaria for the first time and WOW!!!!!! The control is amazing on my serves. The dwell time is slightly longer.

The Viscaria is not as fast as the Long 5, and it's not as hard as the Long 5. But I think those are advantages. Now I know that no blade is absolutely perfect in every aspect, but what the Viscaria lacks in comparison to the Long 5, it totally makes up for in control. The Long 5 and the Stiga Carbonado 190 play exceptionally well off the table. Almost effortlessly. The Stiga Carbonado 190 plays more all around than the Long 5 and also has better control. But it's still extremely fast and I don't recommend it for beginners or lower level intermediate players. The Stiga Carbonado 190 is no joke. If your looking for an upgrade from the Viscaria, and if your skill level is adequate then the Stiga Carbonado series is something you may benefit from.

Back to the Viscaria. WOW!!!!! Now I see why so many top players swear by it. Touch and speed!! Control and power!!!! It simply does what you tell it. The greatest advantage for me is the control and spin I'm getting on my serves. Reverse pendulum is my go to serve and it's simply on another level right now.

Wish me luck, just starting to beat 1900 level players at my club. Unless they use long, medium, or short pips. Lol

UpSideDownCarl
07-11-2017, 06:09 PM
I've been a DHS Hurricane Long 5 user for nearly two years now. I've experimented with the Stiga Carbonado 190, Zhang Jike Super ZLC, Inner force ZLC, and recently the Butterfly Viscaria.

I love my Long 5 but last night I played with my Viscaria for the first time and WOW!!!!!! The control is amazing on my serves. The dwell time is slightly longer.

The Viscaria is not as fast as the Long 5, and it's not as hard as the Long 5. But I think those are advantages. Now I know that no blade is absolutely perfect in every aspect, but what the Viscaria lacks in comparison to the Long 5, it totally makes up for in control. The Long 5 and the Stiga Carbonado 190 play exceptionally well off the table. Almost effortlessly. The Stiga Carbonado 190 plays more all around than the Long 5 and also has better control. But it's still extremely fast and I don't recommend it for beginners or lower level intermediate players. The Stiga Carbonado 190 is no joke. If your looking for an upgrade from the Viscaria, and if your skill level is adequate then the Stiga Carbonado series is something you may benefit from.

Back to the Viscaria. WOW!!!!! Now I see why so many top players swear by it. Touch and speed!! Control and power!!!! It simply does what you tell it. The greatest advantage for me is the control and spin I'm getting on my serves. Reverse pendulum is my go to serve and it's simply on another level right now.

Wish me luck, just starting to beat 1900 level players at my club. Unless they use long, medium, or short pips. Lol

Kevin, good to see you back. Sounds like you are playing well.


Sent from The Subterranean Workshop by Telepathy

Overseer Kevin
07-11-2017, 06:34 PM
Great to be here and great to see you as well. I'm getting there slowly but surely. Feels kinda good when those players who didn't want to play me because I wasn't a challenge for them. Now they call me out. Lol

11-9 or deuce in the 5th game is what I'm known for at the club now. Win or lose, you'll know I'm there. LOL

I was so hesitant to try another blade because I've finally got over my "EJ" stage. And didn't want to ignite my inner monster again. But since watching Lin Gaoyuan and his game. And the fact that one of the clubs I go to has blades just sitting around begging to be bought and played with. The Viscaria just kept calling me. I held out for months hoping someone would buy it. But yesterday it was still there. Looking so lonely and unhappy. Lol So I rescued it from its glass prison.

What a great thing I did. Now those shots that were going just long or clipping the net because of the speed of the Long 5. Well, the spin monster Viscaria just lays them on the table easily now.

Suga D
07-12-2017, 04:48 PM
This is one of life's mysteries, but there is no doubt that it is kiri. People have been confused by that for many years. For more than two decades the blade also had the word "perfomance" on it. Another mystery is why it took more than 20 years for Btfly to finally correct it.

Could it be that Bty accidentally wrote down the composition of viscaria light?

Baal
07-13-2017, 01:03 AM
Could it be that Bty accidentally wrote down the composition of viscaria light?

I think it appeared as balsa in a Butterfly catalog I saw before there even was a Viscaria Light.