Rubber that is like Flextra but faster.

genrel001 said:

Hello EJs!

Happy New Year and may we all have an amazing year ahead!

Anyway, I was looking to replace my Butterfly Flextra with something faster. I am using it for my RPB side. Here's the detail:

Things I like in Flextra that I want my new rubber to have;
1. Spin insensitive
2. Light
3. Super soft (so soft that it bottoms out to my Balsa blade and activates the blade's catapult effect and BOOM!)
4. It comes <2.0mm (1.8/1.9..something)
5. Excellent for blocking

All that's said but faster and also spinier.

Thanks a lot guys!

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I have tried a number of soft rubbers for RPB:
729 snipe III
729 Aurora
Donic F3
Rasant powersponge
Rasant Beat
Butterfly T80
Gewo Thunderball 2
Nittaku FastArc C1

To my surprise the less known Thunderball 2 and FastArc C1 beat the rest of them. Thunderball and FastArc are fairly insensitive to spin yet can generate decent spin. Powerful enough far from the table.

My Thunderball is 1.5mm and it bottom out very easily. I like that feeling.

My FastArc C1 is 2.0mm but i guess you can try a thinner version.

Sriver should be the nearest I know

genrel001 said:

Thanks SFF_lib! Both are sure hard to find specially in my area. But I will look it up! With regards to thickness, I tried Mark V with 2.0mm but still not enough for me to sink the ball despite its softness.

thanks again!

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I could only get Thunderball 2nd hand probably it's out of production. The control it gives you is out of this world after trying so many big brands. I could direct the ball anywhere I want. With 1.5mm I could do mid to far distance counter loop.

Mark V is not that soft in comparison.

SFF_lib said:

I could only get Thunderball 2nd hand probably it's out of production. The control it gives you is out of this world after trying so many big brands. I could direct the ball anywhere I want. With 1.5mm I could do mid to far distance counter loop.

Mark V is not that soft in comparison.

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genrel001 said:

Thanks SFF_lib! Both are sure hard to find specially in my area. But I will look it up! With regards to thickness, I tried Mark V with 2.0mm but still not enough for me to sink the ball despite its softness.

thanks again!

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genrel001 said:

Fascinating. I think they have this in TT11, I will also look it up in our local stores to save shipping costs. Incase I can't find one, what rubber can you recommend from the famous brands (those easy to find).


Thanks!

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This is the company behind GEWO. They ship worldwide.
It's on sale for EUR 15,90 at the moment.


https://www.contra.de/en/gewo-belag-thunderball-2.html?___from_store=de

Sorry for late reply.

My hunch, what you need is Flextra on Steroid, not only for Blocking, but also for Driving or Killing, hence why you need something faster.

Note. I heavily recommend KTL / LKT products. Most of their rubber I have tried is very controllable. ;-)

If You want Flextra,

Butterfly Addoy
Butterfly Wakaba
JOOLA 4-All
Donic Liga
Stiga Cobra 2000
Cornilleau Pilot Control
Donic Vario
Butterfly Pan Asia
Andro Impuls Speed
Donic Coppa Tenero
Dawei 2008 (Super Power)
Donic Twingo
Banda Rossa Soft
Tibhar Rapid Soft

If You want Flextra on Steroid, which is a very large groups considering how slow Flextra is.


Yasaka Pryde 30
Yasaka Fusion
JOOLA Energy Green Power X-Soft
Stiga Innova Ultra Light
Andro Rasant Beat
Tibhar Sinus Sound
Donic Desto F3 Big Slam
Xiom Vega Elite
Donic Vario Big Slam
Cornilleau Target Sound 37.5
Banda Sigma
Nittaku Refoma
Victas V > 01 Limber
Donic Vario Soft
Tibhar Nimbus Soft
Butterfly Solcion
Andro Roxon 330
Yasaka Mark V AD
Andro Hexer Powersponge
Andro Rocket Medium
Yasaka Rakza X Soft
Butterfly Sriver G2 FX
JOOLA Energy X-tra (Green Power)
Donic J.O. Waldner
Donic Coppa X3 Silver
Tuttle Beijing 4
Kokutaku Blutenkirsche 868 Tokyo
Butterfly Cermet
JOOLA Samba
Dawei Saviga
Tibhar 5Q Sound
Stiga Magna TS II (2)
Tibhar Nimbus Sound
Cornilleau Pilot Style
TSP Triple Spin
Andro Plasma 380
Dawei Inspirit Quattro Ultralight SV 35
Stiga Neos Sound SynergyTech
Haifu White Shark II (2) (Tuned)
Stiga Mendo MP
Stiga Innova
Donic Coppa Tagora
Cornilleau Pilot Power
Nittaku Galze
DHS Dipper
Butterfly Sriver FX
Andro Plasma Women
Donic Acuda S3
Yasaka Mark V XS
Xiom Yanus DF
Nittaku Renanos Bright Soft
Butterfly Sriver
Andro Rocket Hard
Stiga Boost TC
Haifu Blue Whale II (2) (Tuned)
Nittaku Narucross GS Super-Soft
Yasaka Zap Spin
Tibhar Aurus Sound
Stiga Evo
KTL (LKT) Golden Star Loop
Stiga Mendo Energy
JOOLA Brave
JOOLA Express X-Soft
Yasaka Mark V GPS Soft
Tibhar Volcano
Butterfly Bryce FX
Nittaku Hammond X
CTT National Pride
Xiom Zeta Euro
KTL (LKT) Black Power
Avalox Sterco
Stiga Neos Sound
Banda Helix Energix
Yasaka Mark V 30°
Stiga Neos
JOOLA Samba NTEC
Stag Thunder Spin
Donic Coppa JO Platin Soft
JOOLA Tango Extrem
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genrel001 said:

The shipping costs more than the rubber itself, thanks anyway Sugar D!

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That's bad. Sorry, didn't think of that. Maybe you can find one from BeGo's enormous list and find that in one of the stores in your area.

genrel001 said:

Wow those are some lists. Thanks BeGo. I'll look to some of those. But to be honest those list made me more confused. Lol.

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Then I suggest try the Ktl / Lkt ones first.

All their rubber i have tried have one thing in common, they very safe and controllable. [emoji6]

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I am surprised no one said rub a little lamp oil into the sponge of Flextra and call it a day.

buy a real booster instead of boosting with any kitchen product you find handy.

It is fun and good experience to try boosting existing old rubbers, but ultimately, personally, I find it too much a hassle to tune rubbers to use regularly. It is easier just to slap on a new rubber. Fortunately, the rubbers i like and use perform just fine for me untuned.