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Dan
09-17-2011, 10:35 AM
Firstly, I want to thank the mytt.net forum and user atin for the pictures and description used.

The Tenergy series rubbers from Butterfly are at an extremely huge price at the moment. In some cases, its hard to get one sheet for less then 45 pounds. Since this rise, there has also been a rise in 'Fake Tenergys'. What is a fake tenergy? Well atin was curious and bought some fake Chinese Tenergy 05 and 05 Fx to compare to the real thing.

He explained that the packaging looks very good and almost the exact same as the real version. All the description is the same also on the packaging. Looking at the picture below you can see the sponge colour is different. The one on the right is a real sheet of Tenergy, the one of the left is the fake Tenergy.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/images/ten1.jpg

But lets cut this rubber to the chase. How does this rubber perform?

Atin quotes, "How does it play? Well not that great: it's definitely now a high technology rubber. It plays a bit like a slow Sriver (fake Tenergy 05) or
like a slow Sriver FX (fake tenergy 05 FX). But for many people it can be a playable rubber like other cheap rubbers."

More Pictures

https://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/images/ten2.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/images/ten3.jpg

So what do you think TTD members? Have you tried these fake tenergys?

Have your say

sunilcse04
09-17-2011, 11:12 AM
OMG !! Why would someone make fake rubbers ?? :O

WiWa
09-17-2011, 11:22 AM
"it's definitely now a high technology rubber"

Is that supposed to be 'not'?

And I think if you buy from your trusted stores you don't have to worry about those, but yes you have to be careful. People try to make money off Butterfly's quality reputation.

Dan
09-17-2011, 12:08 PM
please could you send me the link to the artical on the fake tenergy

Sure Bembo: http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42805&PN=1#552232

Bensmithbortey
09-17-2011, 04:23 PM
thanks dan

Rhydian
09-17-2011, 06:39 PM
Damn :O
I knew such thing would happen... It's because of the prices which are getting higher and higher!!
But, I don't play tenergy anymore :)
And as said, if you buy your sheets from a trustfull store, then there's nothing to matter.

UpSideDownCarl
09-18-2011, 03:23 AM
I know someone who bought some fake Tenergy and he told me it sucked. I never felt it. I also knew they guy who sold it to him. Sort of a low life. The people manufacturing the fake Tenergy know that they can get away with it. They charge $60.00 USD (38 BP, 43 Euro) for a rubber that should cost $15.00 USD (9.5 BP, 11 Euro) and most people who do not know what they are doing will not know the difference. I guess the unfortunate thing is that, if Butterfly did not mark the price up for the rubber the way they have, if the price was still in the same range as all the other speed glue effect rubbers ($50.00 USD, 32 BP, 36 Euro) there would not be the same market of people looking to get them for a cheaper price; not to the same extent.

poltery
09-18-2011, 05:20 AM
i would definitely buy one if i see one. a good sriver would be cool :)

bFeee
09-19-2011, 04:08 AM
So I would write times since Butterfly directly and ask what it is!

Rhydian
09-19-2011, 02:05 PM
Here's what Butterfly says about it:


Dear Butterfly Users:

We have received some information from some of our foreign distributors that imitation Butterfly products are available in some markets. This applies in particular to the following:

Sriver L
Sriver FX
Ekrips
Tackiness Drive
Tackifire
Flextra
Butterfly 3 star balls

We are concerned that you may inadvertently buy some of these imitation products and therefore ask you to be very careful as to where you purchase your Butterfly products. Only use well established table tennis specialist shops or bonafide sports shops in order to protect yourself from this fraud.

Please be aware that we cannot be responsible for the playing performance and quality of the Butterfly products that you may buy from other players, coaches, trainers and other non-bona fide traders.

If you think you have bought some of these imitations, please contact us with your receipt of purchase and full information regarding the person or organization that you purchased the products from (name, address, telephone and fax numbers, email address etc).

Source: http://www.butterflyonline.com/warning.asp

They don't mention the Tenergy's... Maybe they forgot or didn't want to put it... Don't know ^^

@poltery: I would only buy one if: it's a good Sriver and if the price is lower ^^ who knows how long they last?

Der_Echte
09-19-2011, 04:26 PM
That is Butterfly North America. They are simply too occupied with other things (like asking for increased $$$ for Tenergeyz) to correct a small thing like this on their website.

moriguchi2
09-21-2011, 06:09 AM
they know tenergy is big so why not get big themselves

pingpongemil
09-21-2011, 07:54 AM
Okay before everyone goes bananas. Have anyone noticed that your Tenergy worked out bad?Because this discussion should have been up a long time ago

Knuckle Ball
01-26-2012, 06:37 AM
I know of a store, near where I live, they're selling fake Sriver Ls and Sriver ELs. The price is about 1/6th of the original price. The packaging is so low quality you would know it really can't be the genuine stuff. If I reported this to Butterfly, do you think I'll get a reward . . . . . a pair of Srivers perhaps? all wishful thinking;)

RIPPER
01-27-2012, 08:31 PM
Man this is so bad, okay if people just want to look good with the fake one, but it was obviously made to make money and trick people.

Davidex
01-27-2012, 08:36 PM
Does these tenegys have less speed,spin, control... Or the only difference in in sponge?? ;?

sananas123
01-27-2012, 08:59 PM
first fake pokemon trading cards(lol) then fake nike adidas and now........FAKE TENERGY?? what's next? fake humans?????

judah000
01-28-2012, 01:52 AM
how come they also got the ITTF sign?

Steven
01-28-2012, 07:15 AM
how come they also got the ITTF sign?

Same way as they got the Tenergy and Butterfly logo. They just copy the whole top sheet, so that nobody would find out it's fake.

UpSideDownCarl
01-28-2012, 07:54 AM
how come they also got the ITTF sign?

How come counterfeit Dollars say the same thing that real ones say? Because they copy it. They fake the ITTF approval just like they fake the Tenergy label. How come the photo of the fake Tenergy has the Butterfly symbol? Because they copied it.

Also, I would rather have real Sriver than fake Tenergy that plays like real Sriver. I believe there are a lot of fake DHS rubbers, Hurricane and Skyline in particular, out there as well.

Vega
02-03-2012, 02:08 PM
Seems like Butterfly takes care of this problem and they added a new feature to distinguish real rubbers from fake ones.. In addition to the barcode on the back cover (I think this was copied too if i remember but dont have any pictures to compare right now..) they added a 7 digit lasercode on the front cover. I dont know if its for all Butterfly rubbers and worldwide but Butterfly Europe anounced to do this recently to fight the fake problems..

Rosoner
04-07-2012, 09:02 PM
Oh hi!
Can you please put the link of these fake rubbers, so we can see the price and so on.
Thanks. :)

daxx101
04-08-2012, 08:36 AM
and i was planning to buy a couple of tenergy rubbers.. guess have to wait a little more longer.

TTANKEY
04-08-2012, 08:01 PM
Haha' true, but is a kind of ridiculous!! the SPONGE has different collors ¬¬'

UpSideDownCarl
04-11-2012, 08:40 PM
Oh hi!
Can you please put the link of these fake rubbers, so we can see the price and so on.
Thanks. :)

If people knew where to go to find the counterfeits, the counterfeiters would be out of business! These are people illegally making fakes and selling them as though they are real for a small amount less than the real thing, or, sometimes for the same amount as the real thing. You do not want them. Save your money and get regular Sriver or real Tenergy, or a real version of any rubber you like. But don't support illegal counterfeiting. Nobody should pay a high price for a bad imitation.

Anders123
04-11-2012, 08:59 PM
If people knew where to go to find the counterfeits, the counterfeiters would be out of business! These are people illegally making fakes and selling them as though they are real for a small amount less than the real thing, or, sometimes for the same amount as the real thing. You do not want them. Save your money and get regular Sriver or real Tenergy, or a real version of any rubber you like. But don't support illegal counterfeiting. Nobody should pay a high price for a bad imitation.

I couldn't agree more Carl. Because if people keep buying these fake rubbers the companies who produce these fake rubbers will keep making them because there is a market for it!

CamiloG
05-12-2012, 05:12 PM
But is simple... The spring sponge is like red/orange that's the big one difference

mrxamad
05-12-2012, 06:13 PM
this is sick man, i hope no one among us get caught by this fake one :)

EricTian
06-16-2013, 02:14 PM
can you tell the difference in the rubbers from the colour difference in the sponge or what?

HLDang
06-16-2013, 06:30 PM
can you tell the difference in the rubbers from the colour difference in the sponge or what?


Like the posts before, real tenergy has a red/orange sponge.
If you look at the pictures that Dan posted, you can see a smooth surface and clearly see the pimples.

TurboZ
06-17-2013, 02:45 AM
There are low grade fakes with yellow sponge but also high grade fakes with red sponge from taobao for a few USD. One area to look at is the extra rubber left to be cut under the printing, and the prints are usually thick and less well define. The top sheet is not as transparent and feels hard. It should be easy to tell if you can touch it, but less so by just looking at the package.

MegaZZ
06-17-2013, 05:29 AM
There are low grade fakes with yellow sponge but also high grade fakes with red sponge from taobao for a few USD. One area to look at is the extra rubber left to be cut under the printing, and the prints are usually thick and less well define. The top sheet is not as transparent and feels hard. It should be easy to tell if you can touch it, but less so by just looking at the package.

Yes you are absolutely right. I am Australian chinese and visit China regularly and there is most definitely different grades of fake imitations. You can't solely tell by looking at sponge colour. I have noticed what someone above mentioned about the printing on the packaging being bold and less defined than authentic Butterfly products but once again I can confirm that is not absolutely true. I have come across many fake Tenergies whilst in China and the best way is to fell the rubber, especially if you have felt authentic Tenergies. Be really careful if you buy from Taobao or TMall and the price range seems super cheap, you can't go with the photos at all because the photos are often copied as well from genuine Butterfly Tenergies so it will not look like the package they send you! On the chinese version of Taobao website there is an option to limit your product search with like free 7 day return policy, if you click that then generally all the products are genuine and you will see the roughly correct market price range by Chinese standards.