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Lermanator
04-25-2017, 10:28 PM
I recently switched to tenergy from Hurricane after my friend was unable to continue selling me Provincial Hurricane. I was wondering if I could find real Neo provincial hurricane on the web and from where? I have looked at Prott.vip and am unsure of the authenticity. Can someone tell me somewhere where they're sure it's real?

Lolman
04-25-2017, 10:40 PM
Bribar based in the UK sell it https://bribartt.co.uk/product/dhs-hurricane-neo-3-provincial-table-tennis-rubber/

Lermanator
04-25-2017, 10:45 PM
Yea i know it seems good only downside is that they don't have it in black.

Lolman
04-25-2017, 10:47 PM
Yea i know it seems good only downside is that they don't have it in black.
Really?
When I clicked on it said red or black

Lermanator
04-25-2017, 10:48 PM
Yea ur right just checked. Last week there was only red

Lolman
04-25-2017, 10:51 PM
Haha new stock ;)

Shiro
04-26-2017, 03:08 AM
You can also order the provincial version from ttnpp and tabletennis11 at reasonable prices.

SFF_lib
04-26-2017, 04:07 AM
I have been using prott for a few years. I haved ordered normal, provincial and national H3 from them. All are authentic stuff. They even have authentic TG3 and TG2 which i have used.

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bobpuls
04-26-2017, 06:24 AM
I`m also ordering from prott and i`m satisfied

Malcbarber
04-26-2017, 06:37 AM
Presports sells the provincial blue sponge version at £46.99

Lermanator
04-26-2017, 09:02 PM
I think TTNPP is fake and the Provincial at T11 isn't Neo

Lermanator
04-26-2017, 09:03 PM
have u shown it to any chinese players who know a lot about the rubber?

Lermanator
04-26-2017, 09:09 PM
Only thing I find sketchy about PROTT is that they claim to have Ma Long and FZD's hurricane and that would be surprising if those were the real thing.

SFF_lib
04-26-2017, 11:28 PM
Only thing I find sketchy about PROTT is that they claim to have Ma Long and FZD's hurricane and that would be surprising if those were the real thing.
I agree.

But for amateurs like me or even semi-professional, the $39 Provincial or $65 National BS would be far more sufficient.

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Lermanator
04-27-2017, 03:32 AM
But the question is if its real or not

SFF_lib
04-27-2017, 03:37 AM
But the question is if its real or not
I did agree they are unlikely real

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Lermanator
04-27-2017, 03:57 AM
Do u think the provincial ones are real?

SFF_lib
04-27-2017, 08:23 AM
Do u think the provincial ones are real?
The provincial ones are definitely real.

I have bought commercial, provincial and national Hurricane from Prott. The difference among the three classes are quite noticeable.

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Ot Ot
04-28-2017, 02:38 AM
Why not order from the official DHS taobao shop ?


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SFF_lib
04-28-2017, 03:31 AM
Why not order from the official DHS taobao shop ?


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I think Taobao still doesn't accept Paypal. And Taobao doesn't accept overseas credit cards.

Correct me if I'm wrong.


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Ot Ot
04-28-2017, 03:45 AM
I think Taobao still doesn't accept Paypal. And Taobao doesn't accept overseas credit cards.

Correct me if I'm wrong.


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I have been ordering from taobao using overseas master card [emoji388]...should be able too



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pleiades
04-29-2017, 11:38 AM
So I have H3 Neo provincial BS from prott and H3 Neo provincial OS from Bribar and the topsheets have the same ITTF number (not abnormal?) but are different in appearance. The BS has more tack and has more sheen/glossier look. Can anybody offer an explanation? Is this to be expected because of the different sponge colours even though in theory they are both provincial rubbers? ....

Thoughts, theory's, explanations please anyone?

Baal
04-29-2017, 01:25 PM
Pleiades, it seems to me that this is a much more interesting point than it may initially seem.

It is amazing to me that rubbers that are so different can have the same ITTF identifying number. The rules ITTF has for racket coverings and their approval are quite specific and are found here:

http://www.old.ittf.com/ittf_equipment/Technical_Leaflets/T4_Racket_Coverings.pdf

According to the that document, the procedure is that DHS informs ITTF that they are coming out with a rubber, they are given an ID code for that rubber (the one we will eventually see on the rubber) and then submits samples for testing along with a testing fee and also an authorization fee (the later they have to pay every year). They are not supposed to sell or distribute any rubber before the tests are finished.

Now, here is the thing: It also says that "The ITTF authorisation applies to a racket covering as originally submitted and tested; its subsequent alteration, by a supplier, a player or anyone else, is not permitted". [emphasis added]

Now if the "provincial" and "national" and "super-duper secret Ma Long versions" are all different from each other and from the "commercial" versions that they sell to all the rest of us, say, at TT11, than how can all of those various versions have the same ITTF ID number? Only one of them could have been approved by ITTF? Which one? If it was something other than the kind Ma Long or FZD uses, or if those players are each getting their own custom versions, how can that be legal according to ITTF? Since those would not be the same as the ones originally supplied for testing?

It not the ITTF allowing DHS to collude with the CNT to provide them with an unfair advantage?

NextLevel
04-29-2017, 02:01 PM
Pleiades, it seems to me that this is a much more interesting point than it may initially seem.

It is amazing to me that rubbers that are so different can have the same ITTF identifying number. The rules ITTF has for racket coverings and their approval are quite specific and are found here:

http://www.old.ittf.com/ittf_equipment/Technical_Leaflets/T4_Racket_Coverings.pdf

According to the that document, the procedure is that DHS informs ITTF that they are coming out with a rubber, they are given an ID code for that rubber (the one we will eventually see on the rubber) and then submits samples for testing along with a testing fee and also an authorization fee (the later they have to pay every year). They are not supposed to sell or distribute any rubber before the tests are finished.

Now, here is the thing: It also says that "The ITTF authorisation applies to a racket covering as originally submitted and tested; its subsequent alteration, by a supplier, a player or anyone else, is not permitted". [emphasis added]

Now if the "provincial" and "national" and "super-duper secret Ma Long versions" are all different from each other and from the "commercial" versions that they sell to all the rest of us, say, at TT11, than how can all of those various versions have the same ITTF ID number? Only one of them could have been approved by ITTF? Which one? If it was something other than the kind Ma Long or FZD uses, or if those players are each getting their own custom versions, how can that be legal according to ITTF? Since those would not be the same as the ones originally supplied for testing?

It not the ITTF allowing DHS to collude with the CNT to provide them with an unfair advantage?

In theory, the answer should be that the topsheet is the same, the sponges may/will be different.

Baal
04-29-2017, 02:09 PM
In theory, the answer should be that the topsheet is the same, the sponges may/will be different.

Yes, but according to T4, that should not be allowed since they don't just test the topsheet, they test the entire rubber now, and the things they test for are specified in that bulletin. Once they have submitted something for testing and it is approved, they are not allowed to change it at all.

NextLevel
04-29-2017, 02:18 PM
Yes, but according to T4, that should not be allowed since they don't just test the topsheet, they test the entire rubber now, and the things they test for are specified in that bulletin. Once they have submitted something for testing and it is approved, they are not allowed to change it at all.


What leads you to that conclusion/inference? There is nothing in there that explicitly prohibits recombining the topsheet with other sponges.

Lermanator
04-29-2017, 02:40 PM
Why not order from the official DHS taobao shop ?


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Its not neo and i dont want to waste all my booster or speed glue it and not boosted or speed glued, it is absolute garbage.

Baal
04-29-2017, 04:23 PM
What leads you to that conclusion/inference? There is nothing in there that explicitly prohibits recombining the topsheet with other sponges.


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Changes in racket coverings The ITTF authorisation applies to a racket covering as originally submitted and tested; its subsequent alteration, by a supplier, a player or anyone else, is not permitted

Lermanator
05-02-2017, 04:08 PM
Does anybody know much about this site? http://www.saletabletennis.com/

HairF1
05-13-2017, 07:03 PM
Provincial and national versions at prott.vip are all original with DHS serial code included.