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romanzdk
06-25-2017, 04:51 PM
Hi, anybody noticed Timo Boll's BH rubber is more reddish than FH? One is T05 and second? Has Timo changed one T05 for Tibhar Evo? Stiga Mantra?

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Boogar
06-25-2017, 05:37 PM
I think they look the same, it just seems different because the backhand has a red topsheet. Was confused for a second as well.

achalwins94
06-25-2017, 05:57 PM
Are you sure about fh that it is t05? The trajectory of bh was surely of t05, and was ball usually would look from timo. His fh looked a bit different. Maybe Chinese coach and some change on fh rubber ?

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romanzdk
06-25-2017, 06:02 PM
Well Im not sure of course, and now when looking more, the BH sponge looks more like Tenergy than FH. FH is more orange which could be some Hurricane maybe.

ttmonster
06-25-2017, 06:07 PM
its tenergy on both sides , you don't need to look a the picture , you can see how he played the short balls in yesterday's match and against Harimoto to tell which rubber he is using ...

Airoc
06-25-2017, 08:16 PM
its tenergy on both sides

It is next to impossible that Boll would use a non-Butterfly rubber. He is extremely loyal to his sponsor. You can never rule out a new Butterfly technology - but I am not so sure he´d play something not on any official list during a tournament. So if it´s not one of the new rubbers on the LARC which aren´t officially available yet (but legal to play) it would most likely still be t05.

UpSideDownCarl
06-25-2017, 08:33 PM
If you take orange and it is next to black, the orange would look a little different than if you took the same orange and had it next to red. I think this is probably why they seem different to you. Our brain does that in processing the information. If you look closely enough, you can see through the effect and discern the actual color.


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ttpshot
06-26-2017, 12:41 AM
Yes, it could be the "National" tenergy...

Airoc
06-26-2017, 05:47 AM
If you take orange and it is next to black, the orange would look a little different than if you took the same orange and had it next to red. I think this is probably why they seem different to you. Our brain does that in processing the information. If you look closely enough, you can see through the effect and discern the actual color.

How a little science can spoil all the fun ;)

No really, on a German forum there are often even discussions about sponge colours and blades used, based on mobile phone snapshots from video cubes 20 meters above the floor ...

NextLevel
06-26-2017, 08:22 AM
How a little science can spoil all the fun ;)

No really, on a German forum there are often even discussions about sponge colours and blades used, based on mobile phone snapshots from video cubes 20 meters above the floor ...

I have abstained from commenting so far because I find these kinds of threads to say a lot about the people posting them. I remember on another forum, someone used a bad picture to argue that Dima may have swithched to T80. But if you looked at the picture, it was so hard to read the numbering that you could just as well have said it was a bad picture. But when you want to start rumors, you will start rumors, no need for pictures.

UpSideDownCarl
06-26-2017, 01:34 PM
How a little science can spoil all the fun ;)

No really, on a German forum there are often even discussions about sponge colours and blades used, based on mobile phone snapshots from video cubes 20 meters above the floor ...


I have abstained from commenting so far because I find these kinds of threads to say a lot about the people posting them. I remember on another forum, someone used a bad picture to argue that Dima may have swithched to T80. But if you looked at the picture, it was so hard to read the numbering that you could just as well have said it was a bad picture. But when you want to start rumors, you will start rumors, no need for pictures.

These are both really great posts. Thank you. More people really should hit the like button on both of these.


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Tryzerlol
06-26-2017, 10:33 PM
Apparently this is our version of whether the dress is blue or black ...

ttmonster
06-26-2017, 10:42 PM
Funny .... normally the running joke in american culture is with Tuxedos

Tryzerlol
06-26-2017, 10:46 PM
I was thinking about posting a picture of the dress but I'm afraid of what it might start here :D

Baal
06-28-2017, 01:31 PM
How a little science can spoil all the fun ;)

No really, on a German forum there are often even discussions about sponge colours and blades used, based on mobile phone snapshots from video cubes 20 meters above the floor ...

And of course forumers someimes claim to have super EJ powers. Once I saw a forumer argue that Jin Mitzutani had switched from a ZLC to a sZLC because he could see the different trajectory of the ball coming off his blade on youtube videos.

Airoc
06-28-2017, 02:10 PM
And of course forumers someimes claim to have super EJ powers. Once I saw a forumer argue that Jin Mitzutani had switched from a ZLC to a sZLC because he could see the different trajectory of the ball coming off his blade on youtube videos.

Surely one for the hall of fame :)

ttmonster
06-28-2017, 02:46 PM
That is taking it too far of course, but surely we can tell if its European rubber or Hurricane from the way shots are played , especially the short balls , ... .

And of course forumers someimes claim to have super EJ powers. Once I saw a forumer argue that Jin Mitzutani had switched from a ZLC to a sZLC because he could see the different trajectory of the ball coming off his blade on youtube videos.

NextLevel
06-28-2017, 03:35 PM
That is taking it too far of course, but surely we can tell if its European rubber or Hurricane from the way shots are played , especially the short balls , ... .

Sure. Sure. Truthfully, it is not that simple.

Airoc
06-28-2017, 09:40 PM
European rubber or Hurricane

and tenergy, which is neither? ;)

ttmonster
06-28-2017, 09:48 PM
You got me on that one :) ... of course its a japanese rubber ...

and tenergy, which is neither? ;)

ttmonster
06-28-2017, 09:57 PM
I don't know but the more I see the forehand over the table game from Timo in this match the more I am convinced that it has to be european rubber / or "Japanese rubber" tenergy and not Hurricane ... the soft flips , the drop shots , the perpendicular angled bat to receive no/top spin serves with a follow through with a paddle that retracts .. I don't think anybody using Hurricane would be doing that


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blOC72OzRW8


Sure. Sure. Truthfully, it is not that simple.

Tryzerlol
06-28-2017, 10:01 PM
I honestly believe that Timo would be the last professional on earth to secretly change his rubber and move AWAY from the Butterfly brand to a rubber that is famous for it's latent potential when being tuned. Especially when you consider how strongly he spoke out against the "booster era"

ttmonster
06-28-2017, 10:15 PM
Very true .. somehow I feel the game that Timo plays and Tenergy are made for each other ...

I honestly believe that Timo would be the last professional on earth to secretly change his rubber and move AWAY from the Butterfly brand to a rubber that is famous for it's latent potential when being tuned. Especially when you consider how strongly he spoke out against the "booster era"

Tryzerlol
06-28-2017, 10:18 PM
I'm sure they sent him a test rubber (or more like 10 versions ... the fifth was a fit (Tenergy 05)) and asked for his opinion when they were in development phase.

Airoc
06-30-2017, 04:43 AM
I'm sure they sent him a test rubber (or more like 10 versions ... the fifth was a fit (Tenergy 05)) and asked for his opinion when they were in development phase.

They may have asked some of their players for sure.

But the 05 stands for one of very many different combinations of topsheet and sponge they produced, while 64 represents another, and so on.

UpSideDownCarl
06-30-2017, 03:15 PM
They may have asked some of their players for sure.

But the 05 stands for one of very many different combinations of topsheet and sponge they produced, while 64 represents another, and so on.

It is worth being able to see a joke when it is sitting in front of you.


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Airoc
06-30-2017, 07:04 PM
It is worth being able to see a joke when it is sitting in front of you.


You may have a point.

Meanwhile I´ve seen so many weird theories about what (and what not) the professionals play, the irony might have been lost on me.

Tryzerlol
07-01-2017, 12:01 AM
I've heard the T in Tenergy stands for tinfoil hat while the C in Hurricane is for conspiracy. Buy either and you'll become an equipment connoisseur par excellence.

Jokes aside, talking about equipment with people who know it all and come up with 'unarguable' theories can be quite debilitating. Requires a lot of tenacity to talk with a wall, but then again that goes for all parts of life and admittedly patience isn't my strength :D