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TTLondon2012
07-16-2017, 12:20 PM
How to play the right Backhand Flick like Zhang Jike!

What is this shot!? :) Reminds me of Xu Xin's of Simon Gauzys! Zhang Jike then puts it into practice and disguises it against his opponent under the watchful eye of Liu Guoliang!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcrtuXK8zi4

UpSideDownCarl
07-16-2017, 03:10 PM
I think most of those are what I thought was called a VIOLIN, like the way the bow is pulled by a violin player.

Every so often he does his actual BH flip and it is much different.


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John18
07-16-2017, 03:38 PM
Isn't it the shot that the japanese girls youngsters use quite a lot..??
Especially Miyu Kato, Hina Hayata and Mima Ito..??
That Adam Bobrow calls the "strawberry"..?? :D

ajtatosmano2
07-16-2017, 05:07 PM
And Emrath calls it the boomerang. Violin is logical, strawberry is a little...let's call it Bobrow-style :D .

Tinykin
07-16-2017, 05:26 PM
Funny how things come around in the fullness of time.
My friends and I used to play that shot when we started out as beginner players in the sixties.
We unlearned it as we became 'proper' players.
I guess I must now go learn it again;)

TableTennisTom
07-16-2017, 06:52 PM
Ha! This is how I used to play my backhand when I was 8 years old!

I always knew it was a great shot.

Suga D
07-16-2017, 07:28 PM
A short best-of video from January 2017 - June 2017:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qaW3Dgg9YY

I think over here we call it strawberry flick.
At 0:30 3T tabletennis demonstrate it too.
This might be adapted technique from lp players, at least i've had a higher ranked lp player do this to me a few years ago.
Man, i was not more than roadkill.
That return against side-/backspin serve of mine.... i was toasted and baffled.
But this season i could at least take a game from him...
:)

Opalescent
07-16-2017, 10:22 PM
Is this flick not as effective as the banana flick because the stroke is not as long (because of Our wrist and arm limit) so less spin/power? Because the banana flick you start with racket pointing down at table then finish with it almost pointing at the right wall

TTFrenzy
07-17-2017, 12:44 AM
I think most of those are what I thought was called a VIOLIN, like the way the bow is pulled by a violin player.

Every so often he does his actual BH flip and it is much different.


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chila did it first but with bigger motion , in rallies most of the time, and the modern french players "evolved" it with shorter stroke as a method to receive (gauzy robinot etc) , it was indeed called violin when it first came out like ages ago

TTFrenzy
07-17-2017, 12:56 AM
Also I dont know how "coach" emrathich came up with the "boomerang" name at all. The motion does not resemble a boomerang throw at all

shinshiro
07-17-2017, 07:30 PM
Kato Miyu seems to do it a lot. I've posted a video compilation of her doing tons of violin/strawberry/boomergang on another forum, but unfortunately the video is not available anymore. It is a very cool move and I'm trying to do it more often too

3Ttabletennis
07-17-2017, 09:19 PM
Larry Hodges calls this stroke strawberry flick in some of his books. So we also called it strawberry stroke. :)
I think this stroke becomes more and more common. It's a good variation instaed of only using banana flicks. And in my opinion it's also a good and easy way to return sidespin serves (especially backhand or reverse pendulum serves). You can use it also to receive into the wide forehand. Here are another examples: Bence Majoros uses the strawberry stroke many times in this match:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2JNThclx6w

Also used by Philipp Floritz at 1:20 (there are some real nice points in the video)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orGSUi7y2j4

And here are some strawberry flicks by Simon Gauzy :cool: :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8HlIHh9VaU

TTHopeful
07-18-2017, 05:41 AM
Need to try this!