Avalox p700

Bryce · Oct 17, 2011

Hey guys. Im interested in the Avalox p700. Does it suit hard chinese rubbers like the Hurricane 3 neo and how will it compare to the Stiga Clipper wood and the Timo Boll W7 I'm currently using.

Thanks.

YosuaYosan · Oct 22, 2011

It is a quite stiff 7-ply wood, much like your Timo Boll W7.
If your stroke is Chinese-like, maybe H3Neo will suit you, but I think it is hard to control on MAX thickness.
No idea about the Clipper Wood tho ><

Bryce · Oct 22, 2011

People said it was soft? Softer than clipper wood?

MrRothhaendle · Oct 22, 2011

I play the Avalox P500
It's a very good offensive blade with lots of control, but I would it recommend it to variable top spin players

The P700 is harder and swings less
It's a blade for straight attackers with power!
Shots and very fast top spins can be played easily

(The avalox P-series was designed for the chinese nationalteam and especially the P500 is suitable for chinese rubbers (this combo fits the european style a bit more)

Bryce · Oct 22, 2011

I play with the Hurricane 3 neo. People say that that p700 is better for topspin? Are the p7 series softer and less stiff than the Timo boll w7? And do softer, more flexy blades suit hard chinese rubbers?

Tinykin · Oct 22, 2011

Avalox blades and the classic Stiga blades have similar characteristics. Asians on a whole have always loved Avalox and Stiga blades. So maybe they suited traditional Chinese rubbers.

UpSideDownCarl · Oct 22, 2011

Avalox P-700 has a very similar feel to the Stiga Clipper. The plies are very similar.

Stiga Clipper = Limba-Ayous-Ayous-Ayous-Ayous-Ayous-Limba

Avalox P-700 = Limba-Meranti-Ayous-Ayous-Ayous-Meranti-Limba

The Avalox P-700 is a little thinner than the Stiga Clipper, a fraction lighter, and a little slower. Both blades are good for looping or smashing. The Avalox P-700 has that same feeling of snap that the Stiga Clipper has. But it has a little less punch. It has good touch and control for short game and gears that kick in when you attack. That is because of the soft, slow outer ply which is very thin and the more springy, faster inner plies which you feel only when you hit the ball harder.

It has a very similar feel to the Clipper but is a little slower and does not have quite the same punch or crispness. But it is an excellent blade, especially if you want to slow things down a tiny bit and get more spin for loop and short game.

This blade was designed for the Chinese team and works great with rubbers like H3 NEO.

Bryce · Oct 23, 2011

Thanks sir carl. Isn't there a controversy about the old and new Avalox p700's? The old version being thinner and better for looping.

UpSideDownCarl · Oct 23, 2011

Bryce said:
Thanks sir carl. Isn't there a controversy about the old and new Avalox p700's? The old version being thinner and better for looping.

I thought that was the Clipper, They used to make Clippers at 6mm and now they are 7mm. The 7mm Clipper is heavier and faster and therefore a little better for smashing and not as good for looping. But it is still really quite good for looping.

But they might have done the same thing for the Avalox. I believe the Avalox blades are made in the Stiga factory where the old Banda blades used to be made as well. I could be wrong about that but I think that is the case. So it is possible they began to make the Avalox P-700 blades thicker also. They are still slower than the Clipper, not as good for hitting but better for looping. I have hit with a few. They were not old.

It is the Meranti wood as the second ply that makes them not as fast as the Clipper. The speed difference is subtle. Not a lot. Very similar feel to the Clipper but slightly slower and not as much punch but a little more dwell time so you can get more spin.

YosuaYosan · Oct 23, 2011

WOOO !!
Meranti wood is native to my country

and some neighbor country in S.E. Asia !

Anyway I have a reccomendation for Bryce !
LKT Instinct+
Cheap, controllable, excellent for looping, light, very good for smashing, 7-ply.
Don't get fooled by the price

For a looping machine, buy the 5-ply variant LKT Instinct (without +).

Bryce · Oct 23, 2011

Im thinking about switching to a clipper or the avalox p700 as my timo boll w7 is quite heavy, stiff and not as great for looping...

UpSideDownCarl · Oct 23, 2011

Bryce said:
Im thinking about switching to a clipper or the avalox p700 as my timo boll w7 is quite heavy, stiff and not as great for looping...

If you like head heavy blades the Clipper with WRB is great. I have to say, I do really love how Clippers play. That is my favorite blade. But the ones without WRB are a little heavy. With WRB you lose a few grams and it might be worth it. Mine is 89 grams. I am still using this Cornilleau blade which I like but I will go back to my Clipper at some point.

Bryce · Oct 23, 2011

My timo boll w7 is about 94g. Coupled with the hurricane 3 neo on the forehand and donic platin on the backhand, it certainly is very heavy.I hope the avalox p700 is lighter haha.

YosuaYosan · Oct 23, 2011

Ha !
You seems to be so inclined with the p700.
Well, tell us how you feel after playing with it

UpSideDownCarl · Oct 23, 2011

The Avalox P-700 is a great blade. I would go for it. If you know how to seal it I would do that. But I like the P-700 better than the Blue Thunder 777. So I would not get the one that Avalox has already sealed themselves. I would get the P-700 and use Minwax Wipe on Poly to seal the blade. It is very easy, protects the blade and does not change the playing characteristics.

Bryce · Oct 24, 2011

How do you know if they had sealed the blade themselves?

puyol · Jun 22, 2019

This is quite informative, thanks.

Does anyone know whether the P700s sold these days still have the same composition as the 'old' ones, i.e. is the meranti ply still there, or has it been replaced by ayous and thus uduly clipperized? I seem to remember having read someplace that that is what transpired... hoping my memory is misleading me on this one.

danisius · Jun 22, 2019

I used to play P700 91 g , 92 f flared also have 95 grams with straight handle but just tested it once.
Also did have Clipper CR in 95 grams but new thicker version ~7mm.

P700 (91,92 grams) has much more feel and control than Clipper, at little lower speed.
I did not tested them with chinese rubbers (switched recently to Neo 3 Provincial 40 degrees orange sponge) cause i`m playing different blades now , but suppose will go well just + some booster.

lasta · Jun 22, 2019

I have a early 2000's P700, not sure if that makes it new or old. Its in the same ballpark as Clipper Wood, slightly thinner, slightly harder, but more flexible than the clipper, with a bit more hollow feel. I find the P700 on the slow end of 7-plies. I prefer the Clipper.

If you want something in the same ballpark as clipper but lighter, try the Andro CS7 series. The CS7 Tour is pretty much the same as Clipper, but the CS7 Pro I tried briefly felt very good. A bit softer, but maintains solidity on hard shots, a great linear feeling blade.

yogi_bear · Jun 22, 2019

The TB W7 is much harder and heavier than the P700.

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