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TTLOVE
09-08-2017, 11:46 AM
Hi everyone,
I'm not sure about Ma Long equipment, is he using DHS W968 or W997?
If everyone could answer my question I'll really appreciate that.
What are the differences between W968 and W997?

RidTheKid
09-08-2017, 12:45 PM
Ma Long uses W968.

MaLongSenpai
09-08-2017, 02:17 PM
Ma Long currently uses the latest version of the DHS W968 although the serial code on the W968 has changed and no longer contains the letters/numbers 'W968'. The price for a W968 is typically around $400 and the only difference between this blade and the commercial DHS Hurricane Long 5 is the size of the head (this is larger than the commercial version by a smidge as this benefits Ma Long's style of play but for the average player, having a blade the size and weight of the W968 would be a detriment to their game). As a result, DHS reduced the size and weight of the DHS Hurricane Long 5 so it plays better, which is the case.
The W997 is an older version of the the W968, that's basically it; the W968 was introduced with the new poly ball for Ma Long and the national team.
The rubbers Ma Long uses are DHS Hurricane 3 NEO National 40 dergees blue sponge and DHS Hurricane 3 NEO National 37 degree orange sponge.

I hope this helps!

RidTheKid
09-08-2017, 02:25 PM
Ma Long does not use the latest version of W968. On his blade it says W968, not HL5. W968 is made with different drying process of the glue (natural not sped up) and overall better quality material.

langel
09-08-2017, 02:49 PM
Long 5 has different versions too, with different outer 2 plys. I know 3 versions - koto-ayous, limba-ayous, limba-limba.
Just have heard, but it may be a speculation, that ML plays with a hinoki outer. But it's for sure that with so many commersial versions no one can say what is exactly in the ML personal blade. Better think of it as a custom.

Suga D
09-08-2017, 04:05 PM
Ma Long currently uses the latest version of the DHS W968 although the serial code on the W968 has changed and no longer contains the letters/numbers 'W968'. The price for a W968 is typically around $400 and the only difference between this blade and the commercial DHS Hurricane Long 5 is the size of the head (this is larger than the commercial version by a smidge as this benefits Ma Long's style of play but for the average player, having a blade the size and weight of the W968 would be a detriment to their game). As a result, DHS reduced the size and weight of the DHS Hurricane Long 5 so it plays better, which is the case.
The W997 is an older version of the the W968, that's basically it; the W968 was introduced with the new poly ball for Ma Long and the national team.
The rubbers Ma Long uses are DHS Hurricane 3 NEO National 40 dergees blue sponge and DHS Hurricane 3 NEO National 37 degree orange sponge.

I hope this helps!

I don't know where you have your info from, but according to my chinese friend Ma Long uses FH 41.5° degree sponge hardness, ZJK 41° and FZD 42°.
37°degree for bh is correct though.

If you look at photos and screenshots from Chinese National games it looks as if ML switched from W968 to N301 which is an upgraded version of the W968.
Compare the different handle colours.
But this is just an assumption.

mlax
09-08-2017, 05:45 PM
I never heard of a K301

mlax
09-08-2017, 05:57 PM
Here are some pics from the match. Color and design look very much like his regular W968.
https://i.imgur.com/3no6B52.png
https://i.imgur.com/JQIp4Qz.png
https://i.imgur.com/zkJPVtF.png

Suga D
09-08-2017, 06:04 PM
I never heard of a K301


Here are some pics from the match. Color and design look very much like his regular W968.
https://i.imgur.com/3no6B52.png
https://i.imgur.com/JQIp4Qz.png
https://i.imgur.com/zkJPVtF.png

Oopsi. That was a typo. Caught me. I just edited it, 'cause it's N301...

Look again closely. Does that handle colour look like W968 Babyblue to you?

In fact it rather looks like K161 to me.
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Trismegistus
09-08-2017, 06:56 PM
Color is definitely the blue of the HL5/W968, it sometimes looks brown or grey in low lighting or low-res video.

Astorix
09-08-2017, 08:05 PM
It looks the way it looks because he is training several hours every day and the sweat makes the handle a lot darker over time

Giangt
09-08-2017, 08:13 PM
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Same old IMO

MaLongSenpai
09-08-2017, 09:48 PM
I don't know where you have your info from, but according to my chinese friend Ma Long uses FH 41.5° degree sponge hardness, ZJK 41° and FZD 42°.
37°degree for bh is correct though.

If you look at photos and screenshots from Chinese National games it looks as if ML switched from W968 to N301 which is an upgraded version of the W968.
Compare the different handle colours.
But this is just an assumption.

Well, ironically acoording to MY chinese friend its 40 degrees although I do think theres an argument that it would be mucb higher as you say. Regardless. I didnt know FZD's was 42 :O
As for the Chinese National Games, I am afraid to say I watched quite a lot of it (as well as ML's games himself) and he is categorically using the W968.

Suga D
09-11-2017, 04:35 PM
I guess you guys were right in terms of his blade. I guess i got misled by the colour distortion of the vid screenshots.
Just got a pic from Ma Long´s Racket from the WTTC 2017 in Düsseldorf. Gonna post it in a minute.

ajtatosmano2
09-11-2017, 05:14 PM
On a photo of CNT equipment list (it was took in a CNT training/match hall by equipment control guys; IIRC) ( FZD and ML both used 40 or 40.5 degree sponges on FH side, XX a little harder ---> wrong, they use 41.5) and only ZJK used a 42 degree one.
I am not sure if I was correct with the numbers. I will update this post when I found the picture.
UPDATE:
I can't find it. I am sure ZJK used 42, hardest from all CNT.

Suga D
09-11-2017, 05:19 PM
Here are the photos:
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(Photos courtesy of S.Fabig/mytischtennis.de)

It's clearly a W968

langel
09-11-2017, 05:36 PM
So - is he playing with limba, koto or hinoki outer?
What do the pictures say?

RidTheKid
09-11-2017, 05:39 PM
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Just before he picked it up from the floor.

Chen Chen
09-12-2017, 01:32 AM
Blade: W968 old version
FH: Hurricane 3 neo blue sponge 41.5 degree
BH: Hurricane 3 neo orange sponge 37 degree
Both rubber has name stamp on the back of the sponge

Suga D
09-12-2017, 12:14 PM
Blade: W968 old version
FH: Hurricane 3 neo blue sponge 41.5 degree
BH: Hurricane 3 neo orange sponge 37 degree
Both rubber has name stamp on the back of the sponge

Rubberwise that is exactly what i wrote.
Thanks for confirmation
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mlax
09-13-2017, 04:42 AM
When did he switch to H3 Neo?

Chen Chen
09-14-2017, 10:00 AM
When did he switch to H3 Neo?

Don't get what you are saying? On FH or BH?

mlax
09-14-2017, 06:20 PM
Don't get what you are saying? On FH or BH?

You posted before:

Blade: W968 old versionFH: Hurricane 3 neo blue sponge 41.5 degree
BH: Hurricane 3 neo orange sponge 37 degree

I was under the impression that he was still playing with the regular Hurricane 3 (non-NEO).

Chen Chen
09-18-2017, 02:46 PM
You posted before:


I was under the impression that he was still playing with the regular Hurricane 3 (non-NEO).


All the current Chinese players have been playing with Hurricane neo version for a long time. Do you when ITTF banned the speed glue? All the hurricane with white packaging are only designed for the speed glue.

Renol
10-10-2017, 01:51 PM
Anyone know the type of carbon used in DHS W968? ALC or Karbon Kevlar?