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blahness
10-23-2011, 03:48 AM
On request from Dan, I have reposted this technique compilation of Zhang Jike on Tabletennisdaily.co.uk.

I have always been a big fan of Zhang Jike, and am always trying to copy his style.This thread is for ZJK fans who want more detailed analysis of his technique. The materials are all from the fantastic Youtube channels and some from the Bokett forums.

http://1.2.3.10/bmi/1.bp.blogspot.com/_Pv6ryLDJNNs/SSsawdhWkSI/AAAAAAAAAIA/caLO9R4rN_0/s400/Img260823114.jpg

Fundamentals(BH, FH)

His basic counter-hit. This surprisingly helped me a lot, to get a lot of the body mechanics of his BH and FH loops.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0YZt_ybNlg



Zhang Jike BH-FH from mid-distance. He has a kinda sidespinny FH like Kong Linghui, especially when dealing with balls to the extreme FH. This helps a lot in curling the ball back to the table.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLxshC-VTVk



Zhang Jike warmup with Xu Xin 2, mainly BH and FH training. Zhang Jike has a very short backswing, and very powerful shots with lots of control. Notice how his wrist doesn’t move much in the backswing unlike other players, and his wrist kinda only moves after he finishes contacts the ball.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjYIS7VLl6Q



Zhang Jike warmup with Wang Hao This video can really give us a clear picture of his fundamentals. He doesn’t like to jump from his feet a lot, having a stable centre of gravity. This helps him to keep his balance really well. His side-jumps are really incredible, probably owing to his enormous leg strength. Also, notice his elbow position when he is playing BH, it’s a bit further to the right than when he is playing his compact FH.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfP1cfFs4B0



Controlled loops against underspin

Zhang Jike Reportage!

An awesome reportage of his story, and also there’s gold here! The section from 1:20 – 1:50min, there is a rather close-view of Zhang Jike’s controlled BH loop against underspin. Notice the bat position, the change in bat angle, how he uses his whole body in the shot.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf_3tbvHeAc



His controlled FH against underspin. Look at how well he uses his leg strength to pull the ball up against heavy underspin from Joo Se Hyuk.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfpXuiYap94



1st 3 balls(pushes, serve, receive)

Zhang Jike warmup with Xu Xin 1, mainly serve and receive. Very useful in studying their footwork to do with serve and receive, and distance from the table.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRMhhgqJOx8



More 3rd balling exercises with Liu Guoliang.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEVstrgW18c



Match with Steger(side-view)- This video shows a lot of very useful information on his ready position, pushes and serves.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1UWMfuomxU



Zhang Jike warmup with Xu Xin 1, mainly serve and receive. Very useful in studying their footwork to do with serve and receive, and distance from the table.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRMhhgqJOx8



The best tutorial of how to do the reverse serve like Zhang Jike.(by Lovett9x)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NISmyRiLDCI
Close-up video of ZJK's serves (includes the pendulum, the heavy underspin/no-spin and the reverse) , thanks to WeiTTTube


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIk3hn77se8


His BH over-the-table loop off short balls.

This is his specialty, and one of the hardest shots to master in table tennis. It’s very demanding on the wrist, and upper body strength(especially the core and back muscles).



http://www.bokett.com/tt/dispbbs.asp?boardid=584&Id=258833


There are more explanation in the pictures, but it’s in Chinese. Main points:

1) Don’t contact the ball on the side but rather on the back of the ball. This will give you much better speed and spin on the ball. Also this would give you more topspin which will make it hard for the opponent to make a strong return off your loop.

2) Don’t step into the table with your right foot too much, otherwise you will be jammed due to the speed of the short serve.

3) Use your left hand to judge how high the ball bounces.

4) Upper body must bend forward to give room for backswing.

5) During backswing, move your wrist as far back as possible, so that the bat points towards your stomach.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPJdFVnYxa8, thanks to DiegoTTTube
Personal tips:


1) Think of using the back and core muscles in this shot. The “unarching” of the back can provide surprising amounts of power.

2) When learning, learn it on easy balls first(high and slow short balls with less spin) to get the feeling of contacting the ball, don’t try it on faster, low short serves otherwise you’ll probably hit your bat on the table. Then, increase the difficulty more and more(lower, faster and more spin)

I still find it really difficult to master this shot and once hurt my wrist due to practising this shot for few hours.

Updated with close-up videos of his serve and BH over-the-table loop.

azlan
10-23-2011, 06:07 AM
Nicely done buddy, cheers....:)

YosuaYosan
10-23-2011, 07:24 AM
Sophisticated !
Puissant to the Zenzizenzizenzic !

UpSideDownCarl
10-23-2011, 02:11 PM
The match with Steger is good to see because the angle it is filmed at lets you see how far Jike backs up once an attack is launched. He moves pretty fast.

Steven
10-23-2011, 02:22 PM
Really need to start learning that serve. :p

UpSideDownCarl
10-23-2011, 02:34 PM
Really need to start learning that serve. :p

Worth learning; hard to be good at it. But once you are good at it, I have heard, it is a very useful serve, very spinny when you know how to do it correctly.

Steven
10-23-2011, 02:39 PM
Worth learning; hard to be good at it. But once you are good at it, I have heard, it is a very useful serve, very spinny when you know how to do it correctly.

Yeah that's the biggest problem. I can do it when training, but I can't rely on it during competitions.

blahness
10-23-2011, 02:43 PM
Worth learning; hard to be good at it. But once you are good at it, I have heard, it is a very useful serve, very spinny when you know how to do it correctly.

I can never in my life serve this reverse pendulum with enough control. Always can't get the ball contact right...:( . In matches I use a reverse serve similar to Wang Hao's, it's so much easier to learn.

UpSideDownCarl
10-23-2011, 03:28 PM
I can never in my life serve this reverse pendulum with enough control. Always can't get the ball contact right...:( . In matches I use a reverse serve similar to Wang Hao's, it's so much easier to learn.

I do a serve like that that too. Easy to have a lot of control and to switch from topspin to underspin with the reverse sidespin.

When I am in a match and do the reverse pendulum in a match I have control but not enough spin. I use it anyway, because it throws people off. But in practice when I put the full spin, I do not have control and do not always get the spin, in short not enough control and I have been told mine is very easy to read and that I show it too early.

Dan
10-23-2011, 03:47 PM
What an awesome thread! I hope members learn a lot from this! You have to be one of ZJK biggest fans :P

Loving your signiture by the way 'Technique is at least 10 times more important than the equipment. When have you seen people giving credit to the shoes when a runner wins?'

scylla24
10-23-2011, 10:08 PM
My reverse pendulum top spin or no spin serve is decent, and sometimes when I get get it very short, its very good. But I can not for the life of me do a reverse pendulum, that has even close to the amount of backspin that my normal pendulum serve gets. Its really frustrating, so additional tips aside from the video would help.

scylla24
10-23-2011, 10:09 PM
thanks to blahness also for putting the time and effort to collect all these resources to make this thread. Some of these videos are awesome. I haven't even see half of them, which is saying something considering the time I waste on youtube watching and learning from table tennis videos.

wilfred888
10-23-2011, 10:38 PM
Thanks for the videos!

Mr. RicharD
10-24-2011, 12:03 AM
Reverse pendulum requires a lot of wrist action. You should often stretch out your wrists for extra flexibility. The toss is pretty critical. If you have tossed the ball too far in front of you when you serve your wrist will not have enough follow through to put the spin and accuracy on the ball. If you toss to close to your body then you'll have the reverse where you can put some spin on the ball, but lose a lot of speed and accuracy on it.

I've posted about it before, but the best way to learn a service is to start high and then lower it steadily for consistency.

Post some videos here if you'd like us to help review and analyze where some mistakes are being made.

blahness
10-25-2011, 12:59 AM
Reverse pendulum requires a lot of wrist action. You should often stretch out your wrists for extra flexibility. The toss is pretty critical. If you have tossed the ball too far in front of you when you serve your wrist will not have enough follow through to put the spin and accuracy on the ball. If you toss to close to your body then you'll have the reverse where you can put some spin on the ball, but lose a lot of speed and accuracy on it.

I've posted about it before, but the best way to learn a service is to start high and then lower it steadily for consistency.

Post some videos here if you'd like us to help review and analyze where some mistakes are being made.

Thanks a lot! I might post something when my exams are over...:)

Alborz
06-05-2013, 09:45 PM
just see this old threat and it is INCREDIBLE !
great job blahness :)

ulrich
06-06-2013, 08:11 AM
Awesome post.

And thanks for bump, Alborz. I probably wouldn't have seen this if it wasn't for you :)

Alborz
06-06-2013, 09:23 AM
Awesome post.

And thanks for bump, Alborz. I probably wouldn't have seen this if it wasn't for you :)

thank you ulrich :)

and i notice ZJK use a lot of his leg power in every shot , great player .

dirtynet
06-06-2013, 12:47 PM
Great thread and very good videos, thanks a lot blahness!!!!! :)

Arlen
06-07-2013, 07:55 AM
Great compilation, although you missed out on his backhand loop:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbU8DD1gC70

Arlen
06-07-2013, 08:03 AM
His BH over-the-table loop off short balls.

This is his specialty, and one of the hardest shots to master in table tennis. It’s very demanding on the wrist, and upper body strength(especially the core and back muscles).



http://www.bokett.com/tt/dispbbs.asp?boardid=584&Id=258833


There are more explanation in the pictures, but it’s in Chinese. Main points:

1) Don’t contact the ball on the side but rather on the back of the ball. This will give you much better speed and spin on the ball. Also this would give you more topspin which will make it hard for the opponent to make a strong return off your loop.

2) Don’t step into the table with your right foot too much, otherwise you will be jammed due to the speed of the short serve.

3) Use your left hand to judge how high the ball bounces.

4) Upper body must bend forward to give room for backswing.

5) During backswing, move your wrist as far back as possible, so that the bat points towards your stomach.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPJdFVnYxa8, thanks to DiegoTTTube
Personal tips:


1) Think of using the back and core muscles in this shot. The “unarching” of the back can provide surprising amounts of power.

2) When learning, learn it on easy balls first(high and slow short balls with less spin) to get the feeling of contacting the ball, don’t try it on faster, low short serves otherwise you’ll probably hit your bat on the table. Then, increase the difficulty more and more(lower, faster and more spin)

I still find it really difficult to master this shot and once hurt my wrist due to practising this shot for few hours.

Updated with close-up videos of his serve and BH over-the-table loop.

Can someone help me with this shot? Usually when I retrieve serves with heavy backspin I tend to open by bat so it faces upwards to execute the shot. It works well, puts quite a good amount of sidespin on the ball, but the ball is a little high and when it bounces it makes it easier for the opponent to retrieve it.

When I try to do the shot like how Zhang Jike does it, the ball immediately goes into the net when it contacts my bat because it is closed too much. My coach keeps telling me to open it more so it goes over the net but then the same thing happens as mentioned above.

I really wanna learn how to execute this move properly so I would appreciate it if someone helps me out here. Thanks :D

mahomedy13
05-31-2014, 07:27 PM
what a lovely thread.first time im seeing it.never realised such valuable threads are hidden away in TTD

dasexybanana
06-30-2014, 07:28 PM
Am i the only one who feels ZJK has been getting worse since 2012 olympics?

Alborz
06-30-2014, 08:39 PM
Am i the only one who feels ZJK has been getting worse since 2012 olympics?
Yes ;)
If you want to know why i'm disagree with you see his matches at 2013 WTTC. He played totally amazing!

dasexybanana
07-10-2014, 01:34 AM
So apparently he did play extremely well there. Perhaps recently he has just been off, or has had less passion for the sport as when I watched him play in WTTC 2014 he seemed to be somewhat afraid to attack at times and played much more cautiously than previously

elrigo99
07-10-2014, 02:10 AM
Yeah, I read on an article that coach Liu saw his effort but it wasn't enough and he was afraid of losing. BTW he also lost to Timo at Olympic Teams so maybe team events stress him more than singles because his team depends on his performance...

ZJK Freak
08-05-2014, 11:02 AM
Lots of usefull tipps! Thank you

TTLOVE
08-05-2014, 11:07 AM
Thanks very much!!

John18
03-26-2015, 11:25 PM
I've just found a great article on ZJK's technique. It's about his FH and his BH topspins and it's quite detailed and with his own words.
I don't know if it was already posted here but I wanted to share it :

http://en.butterflymag.com/2014/03/special-zhang-jike-the-key-to-his-success/