nittaku fastarc g-1 for fh

Ahmad Arnous · Nov 6, 2017

Hello TTD memberes;
i will change my fh from Airoc m to fastarc G-1 and pair it with tibhar SPW, the reason is my need to improve FH loop and counterloop,and as i know fastarc g-1 is the best choice for that reason with lots of spin and med-high through and it's one of the top notch rubbers, any recommendations for that?, any objections? i am confused.

bobpuls · Nov 6, 2017

It is good but shines from midle to far distance... Not good enough in over the table play. But generaly you are right... Why you are confused?

Ahmad Arnous · Nov 6, 2017

bobpuls said:
It is good but shines from midle to far distance... Not good enough in over the table play. But generaly you are right... Why you are confused?

i wonder if it's just for pros

Ahmad Arnous · Nov 7, 2017

i will buy it, if anyone has objections please reply here.

bobpuls · Nov 7, 2017

if you are ok with euro jap rubbers then i think you are ok .... There is nothing bad on it

bobpuls · Nov 7, 2017

i like it a lot but with combination with fast blade i was to long on short game..... i prefer Chinese rubbers .

had3z · Nov 7, 2017

i currently play with fastarc g-1 on a primorac off- blade. before this i played with tibhar el-s, among others

the main differences that jumped out when switching (and hold true still), are:
1 a bit more speed for g1. long pushes went off the table.
2 g1 is bit harder, i couldn't get the same feeling of the ball staying on the blade
3 the spin-insensitive part i found out to be true. easier to block and counter, but quite a big of adjustment was neccesary when returning serves (they went either long or high). i can't vouch for the quality of spins, but to me it felt like g1 is less spinny. (you can't have spin-insensivite and high spin producing rubber)
4 because of the harder-rubber and spin insensitive combo, you can't really do brushing loops. you really have to force yourself to hit with a forward motion, or else the ball will hit the net. i have mixed feelings about this, because it helped me improve my topspin. with the el-s being softer and grippier, my topspin was technically incorrect and still landed on the table with lots of spin (youtube - watch?v=2ycVoCZsB7E#t=3m23s look at aruna's ts here, open blade, way above his head). that's what i did. since i switched to g1, i was forced to change my ts for the better.
5. durability: very good. almost like new, after 3 months of playing 3-4 times a week, 3-4 hours at a time. maybe it's because it's a red rubber but it still "shines". my old black el-s would look worn out by now

overall i am happy with it, although i train a lot and have had ample time to adjust to it. something in me still wants to revert to el-s

Ahmad Arnous · Nov 7, 2017

had3z said:
i currently play with fastarc g-1 on a primorac off- blade. before this i played with tibhar el-s, among others

the main differences that jumped out when switching (and hold true still), are:
1 a bit more speed for g1. long pushes went off the table.
2 g1 is bit harder, i couldn't get the same feeling of the ball staying on the blade
3 the spin-insensitive part i found out to be true. easier to block and counter, but quite a big of adjustment was neccesary when returning serves (they went either long or high). i can't vouch for the quality of spins, but to me it felt like g1 is less spinny. (you can't have spin-insensivite and high spin producing rubber)
4 because of the harder-rubber and spin insensitive combo, you can't really do brushing loops. you really have to force yourself to hit with a forward motion, or else the ball will hit the net. i have mixed feelings about this, because it helped me improve my topspin. with the el-s being softer and grippier, my topspin was technically incorrect and still landed on the table with lots of spin (youtube - watch?v=2ycVoCZsB7E#t=3m23s look at aruna's ts here, open blade, way above his head). that's what i did. since i switched to g1, i was forced to change my ts for the better.
5. durability: very good. almost like new, after 3 months of playing 3-4 times a week, 3-4 hours at a time. maybe it's because it's a red rubber but it still "shines". my old black el-s would look worn out by now

overall i am happy with it, although i train a lot and have had ample time to adjust to it. something in me still wants to revert to el-s

overall, to get right technique, is fastarc g-1 a better choice? for looping and counterlooping especially ??

bobpuls · Nov 7, 2017

had3z said:
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4 because of the harder-rubber and spin insensitive combo, you can't really do brushing loops. you really have to force yourself to hit with a forward motion, or else the ball will hit the net. i have mixed feelings about this, because it helped me improve my topspin. with the el-s being softer and grippier, my topspin was technically incorrect and still landed on the table with lots of spin (youtube - watch?v=2ycVoCZsB7E#t=3m23s look at aruna's ts here, open blade, way above his head). that's what i did. since i switched to g1, i was forced to change my ts for the better.

yes i forgot about this ... it was really strange ... in low speed brushing the ball was really hard ... the ball just fall down ... you have to go hard again the ball and then in flick it just fly out of space .... or you have to use very closed angle,where i often hit the edge.. but great for flat hitters and fast players.

had3z · Nov 8, 2017

ahmad, it depends. if you train with it, not just match play, it will improve your top spin because it is one of the least forgiving rubbers i have played with. you will hate it in the beginning though, it will magnify any errors you make.

please do a follow-up with your impressions if you decide to use it

Jonas · Nov 8, 2017

bobpuls said:
It is good but shines from midle to far distance... Not good enough in over the table play.

What tensor rubber would you consider best for such plays ? Especially close to the tabler quick attacks ?

bobpuls · Nov 8, 2017

Jonas said:
What tensor rubber would you consider best for such plays ? Especially close to the tabler quick attacks ?

This is the question ... when i found the answer i let you now .... But i doubt anything can beat Dhs blue sponge rubbers....

richrf · Nov 8, 2017

Jonas said:
What tensor rubber would you consider best for such plays ? Especially close to the tabler quick attacks ?

I think this is where Tenergy shines. I tried out T05-FX/T64 on a composite and no problems. Ridiculously easy. Maybe even better with an all-wood. The problems for me were in other areas such as pushing, return of serves, and overall placement and control. Life is a series of compromises.

I'm pretty much in the same boat as you are, and as a compromise, I am thinking Rozena on a 5 or 7 ply all-wood. They seem to work together based upon what others have related to me. I'm trying to find some Rozena to try out.

vvk1 · Nov 8, 2017

bobpuls said:
yes i forgot about this ... it was really strange ... in low speed brushing the ball was really hard ... the ball just fall down ... you have to go hard again the ball and then in flick it just fly out of space .... or you have to use very closed angle,where i often hit the edge.. but great for flat hitters and fast players.

Nothing strange about harder rubber requiring more effort to produce spin.

bobpuls · Nov 9, 2017

No is not like others.... It just ignoring the ball on brush loops. No grip at all. Ball just slips down. It is first time I seen this.
Here for example Tsp regalis blue, which is harder rubber does not have this issues.

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