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Zaid323918
11-12-2017, 03:42 PM
Hi all,
Looks like FZD is using a DHS blade, the Fang Bo 2 Carbon if I'm not wrong. Anyone know why he switched and could this have had some responsibility for his loss against Dima?

Fabian
11-12-2017, 04:01 PM
He also used H3 on the backhand and new shoes, same with XX who also used a DHS blade.
Maybe CNT banned Japanese equipment after they also banned Japanese players from their Super League?

Atas Newton
11-12-2017, 04:14 PM
Fearing sаbotage from Butterfly? :-) But yes, so many players switching equipment is something very interesting and suspicious. Many possible explanations but I guess we'll never know for sure. Unless CNT's playstyle changes drastically in the following months.

sanavasaraja
11-12-2017, 04:16 PM
I think I saw a Fang Bo handle on Kizukuri earlier

TT-Chris
11-12-2017, 05:29 PM
I think it was an Apolonia ZLC Kizukuri used.

Zaid323918
11-12-2017, 06:42 PM
k so is FZD using Fang Bo B2, Fang Bo Carbon, or Hurricane B2?

panany
11-12-2017, 07:51 PM
k so is FZD using Fang Bo B2, Fang Bo Carbon, or Hurricane B2?

he uses w968 2017

Zaid323918
11-12-2017, 08:02 PM
pictures?

RidTheKid
11-12-2017, 08:13 PM
ZJK went the other way, full on Butterfly with it even on fh.

TTHopeful
11-12-2017, 09:16 PM
I just got this off ITTF when fan played Dima

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StehTischtennis
11-12-2017, 09:49 PM
He also used H3 on the backhand and new shoes, same with XX who also used a DHS blade.
Maybe CNT banned Japanese equipment after they also banned Japanese players from their Super League?

Do you have any pictures of his BH rubber?

The only one that I could find on flickr is this:

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Original: https://i.imgur.com/UkJtIB9.jpg

Here's a close-up of FZD's blade:

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https://i.imgur.com/QmCJVWJ.jpg

Suga D
11-12-2017, 10:49 PM
Do you have any pictures of his BH rubber?

The only one that I could find on flickr is this:

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Original: https://i.imgur.com/UkJtIB9.jpg

Here's a close-up of FZD's blade:

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https://i.imgur.com/QmCJVWJ.jpg

Wow.
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What a mean look upon his face!
A true TT-warrior!

Zaid323918
11-12-2017, 11:14 PM
Do you have any pictures of his BH rubber?

The only one that I could find on flickr is this:

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Original: https://i.imgur.com/UkJtIB9.jpg

Here's a close-up of FZD's blade:

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https://i.imgur.com/QmCJVWJ.jpg

that print looks like DHS Hurricane like the way its clustered up and its location.
EmRatThich (idk if u trust him) also had a video that says that FZD's BH rubber is orange sponge Hurricane 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgCN-ZNWIMg (watch the video from 6:35)

slevin
11-12-2017, 11:54 PM
Looking from the picture above, blade is indeed the Fang Bo Carbon. I have a few of them myself. You can see the innerforce wood layers followed by ALC layer.

RidTheKid
11-13-2017, 05:57 AM
Fang Bo uses his own version of the custom made DHS W968, not the commercial version FB2.


Looking from the picture above, blade is indeed the Fang Bo Carbon. I have a few of them myself. You can see the innerforce wood layers followed by ALC layer.

TTHopeful
11-13-2017, 07:56 AM
ZJK went the other way, full on Butterfly with it even on fh.

ZJK used tenergy on the fh?

RidTheKid
11-13-2017, 07:58 AM
Yes, check post 73 here: https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?16290-Chinese-Pro-Equipment-Rubbers-and-Blades/page4



ZJK used tenergy on the fh?

Zaid323918
11-13-2017, 02:44 PM
So does anyone here think FZD's blade change contributed to his loss against Dima?

Giangt
11-13-2017, 02:59 PM
So does anyone here think FZD's blade change contributed to his loss against Dima?
Don't know what answer you are looking for, but yes it could potentially be a factor for his loss. He actually played really well in the 3rd and 4th game. Having that said, Dima manage to find some gaps in FZD game in the last game. Do not forget the pressure from Dimas home court.

Zaid323918
11-13-2017, 03:06 PM
Don't know what answer you are looking for, but yes it could potentially be a factor for his loss. He actually played really well in the 3rd and 4th game. Having that said, Dima manage to find some gaps in FZD game in the last game. Do not forget the pressure from Dimas home court.
So how long ago did FZD change to this FB2 or FB Carbon or W698?

Giangt
11-13-2017, 03:27 PM
So how long ago did FZD change to this FB2 or FB Carbon or W698?
must be in the period between China National games an the CTTSL.

Zaid323918
11-13-2017, 03:36 PM
must be in the period between China National games an the CTTSL.
So do you know whether he is using FB2 or FB Carbon or W968?

Giangt
11-13-2017, 03:48 PM
So do you know whether he is using FB2 or FB Carbon or W698?
Just to get the terminology straight so what you call FB2 or FB carbon must be the commercial version of Fang Bo's blade which is the Bo 2.
I would believe FZD is using a W968 with Fang Bo handle, but I can't confirm it with pictures just yet.

Fabian
11-13-2017, 04:26 PM
I can confirm it’s W968. I saw it on one of the pictures from German Open. I think I saw it on Flickr.

Giangt
11-13-2017, 05:13 PM
I can confirm it’s W968. I saw it on one of the pictures from German Open. I think I saw it on Flickr.
If you find the picture again, please upload it to the thread. Thanks.

RidTheKid
11-13-2017, 06:00 PM
Fang Bo's blade IS the W968. The FB2 is the commercial version.

passifid
11-13-2017, 06:06 PM
k so is FZD using Fang Bo B2, Fang Bo Carbon, or Hurricane B2? just so you know those are all the same blade, Its i think officialy a Hurricane Bo 2 (like hurricane Long 5 or hurricane Hao 3) but somtimes it is abbrivated to b2, and the hurricane Bo 1 is all wood so the Bo2 is sometimes called Fang Bo carbon or Hurricane Bo carbon as it is the only signature blade of his with carbon in the hurricane line up atleast.

Giangt
11-13-2017, 07:11 PM
Fang Bo's blade IS the W968. The FB2 is the commercial version.
I am quite sure as well, but we need some pictures to back up our statements.

Suga D
11-13-2017, 09:00 PM
I think this one's made it clear...




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Original: https://i.imgur.com/UkJtIB9.jpg

Here's a close-up of FZD's blade:

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https://i.imgur.com/QmCJVWJ.jpg

StehTischtennis
11-13-2017, 09:37 PM
I think this one's made it clear...

According to them, those pictures only prove FZD is using the DHS Fang Bo _handles_

Apparently Fabian found a picture which proofs that FZD is in reality playing with a W968. I don't know how one can see that in a photo though :)

The real difference between a DHS Fang Bo Carbon an a W968 is still unclear to me. Different wood composition or different glue? I thought the DHS Fang Bo Carbon I can buy does have a soft Lima outer ply, which makes it even more surprising to me that FZD should be using that. He should be used to the harder Koto outer ply of his Viscaria.

darucla
11-13-2017, 10:30 PM
There is a version of W968 with Fang Bo handle. You can buy it at Prott now. Plus, unless you believe that the CNT uses exactly the same equipment as the general public buys for £30, Fang Bo uses one. Remember, FB used to use W968 with a picture of Ma Long in the handle, same as HL5, until he got his "own" blade. It's only a matter of time before FZD gets his own version, with his picture, possibly the one shown in the stills, in the handle. My bet is that he goes with a version of N301 though.

So, no, you cannot easily tell from a picture that the version used in the German Open is a W968, but it is highly unlikely that it is a commercial FB2.

Incidentally, with all the fuss about FZD losing at the German Open, he did come very close to beating Dima, while using a strange bat. Who wants to make bets about how well he will do with it as he becomes more familiar with it?

Personally, I think all of the current changes are at least in part to do with rebuilding in the run up to Tokyo 2020.

Baal
11-14-2017, 12:25 AM
Maybe not that strange if he has been using a Btfly ALC for years

Fabian
11-14-2017, 06:34 AM
https://www2.pic-upload.de/img/34292444/FB92DAE2-D8B2-4BAC-924B-87EFE2FA38EC.png

the last letter of the name is an 8, the composition absolutely looks like W968

romanzdk
11-14-2017, 07:56 AM
has Lin Gaoyuan switched his blade too?

Fabian
11-14-2017, 08:22 AM
No LGY used Viscaria

StehTischtennis
11-14-2017, 08:44 AM
https://www2.pic-upload.de/img/34292444/FB92DAE2-D8B2-4BAC-924B-87EFE2FA38EC.png

the last letter of the name is an 8, the composition absolutely looks like W968

Hmm, yes it does look like an 8, but it looks to be the third character and the first character doesn't look like a W.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/tushilter_tt/26539833399/

Man if I had been in Magdeburg I would've taken so many pictures of their equipment :p

Fabian
11-14-2017, 08:48 AM
I mean, what else is it supposed to be? It’s clearly an innerforce Type blade with Fang Bo handles. And we all know that there is a W968 with Fang Bo handles. Even if it is different, it would still be very similar. if it is a 301 then it should have 301 handles I guess.

panany
11-14-2017, 09:33 PM
my friend say me he play really with W968 ... fang bo say my friend ;)

Suga D
11-14-2017, 11:19 PM
According to ProTT Fang Bo's personal blade is a W968 customized to the likings of Fang Bo regarding blade size, handle length and thickness etc.

However, the number 8 shown in the photo Fabian's posted is the production number and not the number 8 of W968
Maybe this can help.
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(Photo courtesy of prott.vip)

Fabian
11-15-2017, 06:42 AM
I know where to find the production number. In the pic I posted the 8 is the 3rd letter. It's really hard to read but I'm pretty sure it's an 8.

panany
11-16-2017, 08:47 AM
and this blad’more hard get if version 2017 with number ....
letter is more cheap now ...


because letter version is for prov team... number version is for national team version just few blade hard get

Musaab
11-19-2017, 05:12 AM
According to Adam Bobrow, Fang Bo and FZD exchanged their blades together "just to see", what a time to be alive for EJs like me

Wetwork_Orange
12-17-2017, 01:40 PM
Looks like Fan has gone back to is his Stiga Infinity.

kevinjeremia
12-17-2017, 01:45 PM
and Fang Bo has gone back to viscaria

panany
12-17-2017, 11:38 PM
Picture ,?

kevinjeremia
12-18-2017, 12:10 AM
watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQFhhefNmNg

at 0:40 and 1:45

RidTheKid
12-18-2017, 06:01 AM
I find it curious as to why FB has left his loopers blade, the W968. In my eyes FB is a "light version" of ML, and should therefore have a better match with the 968. But who am I to tell him what to use :)

sanwei2018
01-02-2018, 03:05 AM
want to see pics of his blade

Konrad Bak
01-06-2018, 12:52 AM
Speculation. Im not expert Hey i saw german open and for me Dima and Fan they both played with W968 but Fan and his Bo b2 setup was very very fast . Blade from Bo has bigger size and longer handle and its like 95-100g( Fang Bo has propably the softest rubber) add very hard tuned rubbers setup from Viscfinity.....Heat...
For me FZD in the german final played the fastest table tennis ever. He has a lot of unforced errors from his bh From his bh....

H5 long blade is propably 85-90g because Ma Long has weaker hands than all chinese players but he has faster wrist and legs and his technique is perfect. H5 is softer than Bo2 in pros version propably too. Dima has imo the lightest version- (senso handle)but the most head heavy. I saw Dima training and he has very strong wrist and arm
Yall think its big difference from pro or commercial version- I think No. Its all about glueing process and still is the same but pros has better materials. Sorry for grammar mistakes and poor english. This is my opinion