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TableTennisDaily
12-01-2017, 09:43 PM
The World Junior Championships has commenced and is held in Riva Del Garda on 26 Nov to 3 Dec 2017.

Watch the matches live here. (https://tv.ittf.com/)


https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/images/xuefai2017.jpg
Number 1 seed Xue Fai - Photo by: Deng Xiaozhao


Main Draw

Boys Singles (https://d3mjm6zw6cr45s.cloudfront.net/2017/12/2017_WJTTC_JBS.pdf_0.pdf_1.pdf_2.pdf_3.pdf_4.pdf)
Girls Singles (https://d3mjm6zw6cr45s.cloudfront.net/2017/12/2017_WJTTC_JGS_3.pdf)

We can use this thread as a means to display all the latest results, videos and news from this spectacular World Tour event! What are your predictions from each event.

Andy44
12-02-2017, 07:54 PM
Qualifier Truls Moregard takes out the 9th, 2nd and 7th seeds in one day on his way to the semifinals.

Hamasaki_Fanz
12-02-2017, 08:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrUf8-fC9Gs

CNUDDE Florian is a shameless player, WCQ saved your face from losing 11-0 and you didnt give back the point, shame on you!

sktrdie
12-02-2017, 09:21 PM
So 2 out of the 3 players in the Chinese Junior National team play penhold style. Is this a comeback for penhold?

NextLevel
12-02-2017, 09:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrUf8-fC9Gs

CNUDDE Florian is a shameless player, WCQ saved your face from losing 11-0 and you didnt give back the point, shame on you!

Not a fan of mercy points. It's his prerogative.

TTnS
12-02-2017, 11:09 PM
My new favorite defensive :)


https://youtu.be/J5jk6efHYfU

SFF_lib
12-03-2017, 06:21 AM
So 2 out of the 3 players in the Chinese Junior National team play penhold style. Is this a comeback for penhold?

I hope so.

That would make the sport more diverse.

Passionate about TT

ILoveTT
12-03-2017, 08:20 AM
Truls into the semi final!!

Takkyu_wa_inochi
12-03-2017, 08:59 AM
The Truls is out there !!!
we will soon know who is the Truls champion

SFF_lib
12-03-2017, 11:27 AM
Truls might be the next Waldner while Xue Fei could be the next Wang Hao.

Passionate about TT

SFF_lib
12-03-2017, 12:01 PM
MS FINAL - XF vs TM!!

Xue Fei plays single, double, and mixed double. I hope he gets enough rest for the final game.

Passionate about TT

LikeTT
12-03-2017, 02:34 PM
Girl's Single 1/4【2017 WJTTC】

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlIRGS8L_vE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdjUMO2sspI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy-g_OuymM8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHom4-OdCvA

LikeTT
12-03-2017, 02:38 PM
Boy's Single 1/4【2017 WJTTC】

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGZ6reBAiqs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWi0VId3ywE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o519qfoSSZI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vslnIhtZnZs

LikeTT
12-03-2017, 02:40 PM
Girl's Single 1/2【2017 WJTTC】

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCWRQYKQG3o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8FvXCDU6Ec

LikeTT
12-03-2017, 02:41 PM
Boy's Single 1/2【2017 WJTTC】

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLZv4Z_rTRQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJVkdZ2qomk

LikeTT
12-03-2017, 02:44 PM
Mixed Doubles Final【2017 WJTTC】

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sSWQLbliM8

LikeTT
12-03-2017, 04:31 PM
【2017 WJTTC】Girls Doubles Finals

https://youtu.be/q4FguJmT_0Q

LikeTT
12-03-2017, 05:01 PM
【2017 WJTTC】Boys Doubles Finals

https://youtu.be/1s1-VNEXghQ

TTHopeful
12-03-2017, 05:09 PM
When is boys final?

LikeTT
12-03-2017, 06:23 PM
【2017 WJTTC】Girls Singles Finals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7Y0ZdynOME

LikeTT
12-03-2017, 06:27 PM
https://youtu.be/wqQoLND3VKw

Atas Newton
12-03-2017, 06:51 PM
Girls' final was insane, highly recommend everyone watch it. Boys' final less so, hopefully Moregard sorts out his mental game. He was a lot more likeable until he started throwing rackets and tantrums. What skills though!

LikeTT
12-03-2017, 06:59 PM
【2017 WJTTC】BOYS SINGLE FINAL

https://youtu.be/r7zifdl9GIM

JesperStef
12-03-2017, 10:07 PM
Results from Team Events:

Junior Boys Team

Quarter-finals:

Japan 3:2 France
1) Yuto Kizukuri 3:1 Jules Rolland (11:13, 11:9, 11:8, 11:9)
2) Yuta Tanaka 3:1 Irvin Bertrand (5:11, 11:8, 11:5, 11:5)
3) Masaki Takami 2:3 Bastien Rembert (10:12, 11:2, 11:13, 11:8, 9:11)
4) Yuto Kizukuri 2:3 Irvin Bertrand (11:6, 8:11, 11:6, 3:11, 7:11)
5) Yuta Tanaka 3:0 Jules Rolland (11:6, 12:10, 11:7)

South Korea 3:1 Chinese Taipei
1) An Jaehyun 3:0 Li Hsin-Yang (11:4, 11:8, 11:7)
2) Baek Hogyun 2:3 Lin Yun-Ju (11:7, 5:11, 6:11, 11:3, 6:11)
3) Kwak Yu Bin 3:2 Feng Yi-Hsin (11:6, 9:11, 5:11, 11:8, 20:18)
4) An Jaehyun 3:1 Lin Yun-Ju (11:3, 5:11, 11:6, 11:6)

Romania 3:2 USA
1) Cristian Pletea 3:2 Sharon Alguetti (12:10, 11:13, 11:7, 8:11, 12:10)
2) Rares Sipos 1:3 Kanak Jha (9:11, 13:11, 8:11, 6:11)
3) Dragos Florin Oprea 3:1 Adar Alguetti (6:11, 11:7, 11:8, 11:8)
4) Cristian Pletea 2:3 Kanak Jha (11:8, 7:11, 11:9, 5:11, 12:14)
5) Rares Sipos 3:2 Sharon Alguetti (11:3, 10:12, 8:11, 12:10, 11:6)

Germany 0:3 China
1) Tobias Hippler 0:3 Xue Fei (2:11, 6:11, 7:11)
2) Gerrit Engemann 1:3 Wang Chuqin (2:11, 8:11, 11:6, 3:11)
3) Cedric Meissner 0:3 Xu Haidong (3:11, 5:11, 8:11)

Semi-finals:

South Korea 2:3 Japan
1) An Jaehyun 3:2 Yuta Tanaka (11:8, 11:1, 8:11, 10:12, 11:5)
2) Baek Hogyun 0:3 Yuto Kizukuri (7:11, 5:11, 6:11)
3) Kwak Yu Bin 0:3 Masaki Takami (8:11, 9:11, 12:14)
4) An Jaehyun 3:1 Yuto Kizukuri (8:11, 11:6, 13:11, 11:7)
5) Baek Hogyun 2:3 Yuta Tanaka (14:12, 12:14, 11:9, 9:11, 5:11)

Romania 0:3 China
1) Cristian Pletea 0:3 Xue Fei (8:11, 9:11, 13:15)
2) Rares Sipos 0:3 Wang Chuqin (5:11, 4:11, 3:11)
3) Dragos Florin Oprea 1:3 Xu Haidong (11:9, 6:11, 6:11, 3:11)

Final:

Japan 0:3 China
1) Yuto Kizukuri 1:3 Xue Fei (11:9, 3:11, 8:11, 9:11)
2) Yuta Tanaka 1:3 Wang Chuqin (6:11, 11:8, 6:11, 6:11)
3) Masaki Takami 0:3 Xu Haidong (6:11, 9:11, 4:11)


Junior Girls Team

Quarter-finals:

China 3:0 Serbia
1) Wang Manyu 3:0 Tijana Jokic (11:2, 11:2, 11:1)
2) Sun Yingsha 3:0 Dragana Vignjevic (11:3, 11:6, 11:6)
3) Shi Xunyao 3:0 Izabela Lupulesku (11:9, 11:6, 11:9)

Germany 1:3 Romania
1) Jennie Wolf 0:3 Andreea Dragoman (10:12, 4:11, 6:11)
2) Franziska Schreiner 0:3 Adina Diaconu (10:12, 4:11, 11:13)
3) Sophia Klee 3:0 Tania Plaian (11:5, 12:10, 11:8)
4) Jennie Wolf 0:3 Adina Diaconu (10:12, 9:11, 8:11)

South Korea 3:0 USA
1) Kim Jiho 3:1 Crystal Wang (10:12, 11:7, 11:8, 11:4)
2) Kim Youjin 3:0 Amy Wang (11:2, 11:6, 11:8)
3) Shin Yubin 3:2 Rachel Sung (7:11, 6:11, 11:6, 11:9, 11:5)

Japan 3:0 Chinese Taipei
1) Miyu Kato 3:0 Lee Yu-Peng (11:6, 11:4, 11:4)
2) Miyu Nagasaki 3:2 Su Pei-Ling (9:11, 1:11, 11:7, 11:5, 11:8)
3) Miyuu Kihara 3:0 Chen Ting-Ting (11:8, 11:7, 11:4)

Semi-finals:

Romania 0:3 China
1) Adina Diaconu 0:3 Sun Yingsha (3:11, 6:11, 6:11)
2) Andreea Dragoman 0:3 Wang Manyu (4:11, 18:20, 3:11)
3) Tania Plaian 0:3 Shi Xunyao (2:11, 5:11, 10:12)

Japan 3:0 South Korea
1) Miyu Kato 3:0 Kim Youjin (11:5, 11:4, 11:4)
2) Miyuu Kihara 3:2 Kim Jiho (11:7, 8:11, 11:7, 6:11, 11:5)
3) Miyu Nagasaki 3:1 Shi Yubin (11:4, 9:11, 11:3, 12:10)

Final:

Japan 1:3 China
1) Miyu Kato 1:3 Sun Yingsha (4:11, 13:11, 6:11, 8:11)
2) Miyuu Kihara 1:3 Wang Manyu (9:11, 2:11, 11:8, 5:11)
3) Miyu Nagasaki 3:1 Shi Xunyao (11:9, 11:9, 7:11, 11:6)
4) Miyu Kato 0:3 Wang Manyu (5:11, 7:11, 12:14)

JesperStef
12-03-2017, 10:19 PM
Results from Individual Events

Junior Boys Singles

Round of 64:
Florin Spelbus, ROU 4:0 Lin Yun-Ju [4] (w.o.)

Round of 32:
Kwak Yu Bin, KOR 4:3 Yukiya Uda [10] (-8, 2, -8, -7, 9, 4, 10)
Li Hsin-Yang, TPE 4:1 Irvin Bertrand, FRA [15] (-5, 10, 10, 8, 11)
Matteo Mutti, ITA 4:3 Cristian Pletea, ROU [6] (-7, 7, -2, 7, -4, 10, 7)
Yuta Tanaka, JPN 4:1 Vladimir Sidorenko, RUS [13] (8, 3, 11, -7, 7)
Rares Sipos, ROU 4:2 Ioannis Sgouropoulos, GRE [11] (-4, 5, 7, -6, 9, 2)
Truls Möregårdh, SWE 4:3 Kanak Jha, USA [9] (8, -7, 8, -5, 6, -8, 5)

Round of 16:
[1] Xue Fei, CHN 4:0 Kwak Yu Bin, KOR (10, 4, 10, 5)
Matteo Mutti, ITA 4:3 Li Shin-Yang, TPE (-7, -7, 3, 7, -10, 2, 3)
[5] Wang Chuqin, CHN 4:0 Denis Ivonin, RUS [16] (9, 8, 7, 6)
Florian Cnudde, BEL 4:2 Masaki Takami, JPN [12] (-8, 10, 9, 11, -8, 8)

[3] Niu Guankai, CHN 4:3 Feng Yi-Hsin, TPE [14] (12, 11, 8, -6, -11, -3, 9)
[8] An Jaehyun, KOR 4:2 Yuta Tanaka, JPN (7, -9, 4, 7, -5, 9)
[7] Xu Haidong, CHN 4:2 Rares Sipos, ROU (5, 6, -7, -4, 12, 8)
Truls Möregårdh, SWE 4:2 Yuto Kizukuri, JPN [2] (-6, 9, -8, 8, 9, 9)

Quarter-finals:
[1] Xue Fei, CHN 4:1 Matteo Mutti, ITA (5, 5, 6, -9, 5)
[5] Wang Chuqin, CHN 4:1 Florian Cnudde, BEL (2, 3, -9, 7, 6)
[3] Niu Guankai, CHN 4:3 An Jaehyun, KOR [8] (-10, 8, -5, -7, 12, 9, 6)
Truls Möregårdh, SWE 4:0 Xu Haidong, CHN [7] (8, 9, 10, 7)

Semi-finals:
[1] Xue Fei, CHN 4:0 Wang Chuqin, CHN [5] (9, 9, 3, 7)
Truls Möregårdh, SWE 4:3 Niu Guankai, CHN [3] (11, -10, 6, -4, -6, 5, 8)

Final:
[1] Xue Fei, CHN 4:1 Truls Möregårdh, SWE (9, 10, 4, -9, 8)


Junior Girls Singles

Round of 64:
Daria Shadrina, RUS 4:2 Solomiya Brateyko, UKR [16] (-9, -2, 8, 6, 2, 4)
Chau Wing Sze, HKG 4:1 Lisa Lung, BEL [15] (4, 7, 9, -6, 7)

Round of 32:
Su Pei-Ling, TPE 4:3 Mariia Tailakova, RUS [12] (-6, 9, -6, -3, 9, 9, 4)
Mitsuho Kimura, JPN 4:1 Andreea Dragoman, ROU [14] (7, -11, 7, 9, 7)
Zhang Xuan, ESP 4:1 Shi Xunyao, CHN [5] (6, -6, 9, 9, 7)
Archana Girish Kamath, IND 4:2 Miyuu Kihara, JPN [9] (8, 14, -6, -6, 10, 8)

Round of 16:
[1] Sun Yingsha, CHN 4:0 Su Pei-Ling, TPE (7, 2, 4, 9)
[8] Miyu Nagasaki, JPN 4:1 Bruna Takahashi, BRA [13] (5, -8, 5, 6, 8)
[7] Qian Tianyi, CHN 4:1 Kim Youjin, KOR [11] (10, 6, 6, -10, 5)
Mitsuho Kimura, JPN 4:1 Adriana Diaz, PUR [4] (5, 9, 7, -8, 5)

[3] Miyu Kato, JPN 4:2 Kim Jiho, KOR [10] (-7, -7, 10, 7, 6, 8)
Zhang Xuan, ESP 4:0 Daria Shadrina, RUS (8, 4, 10, 7)
Chau Wing Sze, HKG 4:0 Adina Diaconu, ROU [6] (8, 6, 6, 10)
[2] Wang Manyu, CHN 4:0 Archana Girish Kamath, IND (2, 5, 7, 7)

Quarter-finals:
[1] Sun Yingsha, CHN 4:1 Miyu Nagasaki, JPN [8] (-7, 7, 6, 9, 5)
[7] Qian Tianyi, CHN 4:2 Mitsuho Kimura, JPN (12, 11, 6, -11, -11, 7)
[3] Miyu Kato, JPN 4:1 Zhang Xuan, ESP (7, 16, 7, -7, 5)
[2] Wang Manyu, CHN 4:0 Chau Wing Sze, HKG (2, 4, 8, 5)

Semi-finals:
[1] Sun Yingsha, CHN 4:3 Qian Tianyi, CHN [7] (-8, 8, -7, -2, 4, 3, 7)
[2] Wang Manyu, CHN 4:1 Miyu Kato, JPN [3] (-10, 5, 10, 7, 9)

Final:
[1] Sun Yingsha, CHN 4:3 Wang Manyu, CHN [2] (-6, 8, 8, -12, -8, 6, 12)


Junior Boys Doubles

Quarter-finals:
[1] Wang Chuqin/Xue Fei, CHN 4:2 Kim Byunghyeon/Kwak Yu Bin, KOR (-6, 5, 8, -7, 3, 6)
[6] Yukiya Uda/Yuta Tanaka, JPN 4:3 Florian Cnudde/Laurens Devos, BEL (-9, 7, -3, 6, 6, -9, 9)
[3] Masaki Takami/Yuto Kizukuri, JPN 4:1 Denis Ivonin/Vladimir Sidorenko, RUS [7] (11, 6, 4, -9, 10)
[8] An Jaehyun/Baek Hogyun, KOR 4:3 Niu Guankai/Xu Haidong, CHN [2] (-12, 3, 11, -10, -4, 8, 4)

Semi-finals:
[1] Wang Chuqin/Xue Fei, CHN 4:2 Yukiya Uda/Yuta Tanaka, JPN [6] (-9, -6, 7, 7, 5, 10)
[8] An Jaehyun/Baek Hogyun, KOR 4:1 Masaki Takami/Yuto Kizukuri, JPN [3] (10, 13, 8, -2, 9)

Final:
[1] Wang Chuqin/Xue Fei, CHN 4:1 An Jaehyun/Baek Hogyun, KOR [8] (-10, 8, 5, 5, 5)


Junior Girls Doubles

Quarter-finals:
[1] Shi Xunyao/Sun Yingsha, CHN 4:1 Anastasia Kolish/Mariia Tailakova, RUS [6] (-6, 8, 5, 7, 5)
[3] Miyu Kato/Miyu Nagasaki, JPN 4:0 Julia Slazak/Anna Wegrzyn, POL (5, 12, 6, 3)
[7] Miyuu Kihara/Mitsuho Kimura, JPN 4:1 Adina Diaconu/Andreea Dragoman, ROU [4] (5, 6, -8, 10, 9)
[2] Qian Tianyi/Wang Manyu, CHN 4:1 Kim Jiho/Kim Youjin, KOR [5] (8, 5, -10, 10, 1)

Semi-finals:
[1] Shi Xunyao/Sun Yingsha, CHN 4:2 Miyu Kato/Miyu Nagasaki, JPN [3] (-10, -8, 6, 8, 6, 7)
[2] Qian Tianyi/Wang Manyu, CHN 4:0 Miyuu Kihara/Mitsuho Kimura, JPN [7] (6, 6, 8, 9)

Final:
[1] Shi Xunyao/Sun Yingsha, CHN 4:3 Qian Tianyi/Wang Manyu, CHN [2] (-7, 12, 4, -8, -10, 9, 9)


Junior Mixed Doubles

Quarter-finals:
[1] Xue Fei/Wang Manyu, CHN 4:0 Vladimir Sidorenko/Adriana Diaz, RUS/PUR [7] (6, 9, 9, 5)
[4] Cristian Pletea/Adina Diaconu, ROU 4:2 Xu Haidong/Qian Tianyi, CHN [5] (-8, 8, 12, -3, 8)
[8] An Jaehyun/Kim Jiho, KOR 4:1 Niu Guankai/Shi Xunyao, CHN [3] (7, 9, -7, 8, 8)
[2] Wang Chuqin/Sun Yingsha, CHN 4:0 Jose Pedro Francisco/Chau Wing Sze, POR/HKG (5, 4, 1, 7)

Semi-finals:
[1] Xue Fei/Wang Manyu, CHN 4:0 Cristian Pletea/Adina Diaconu, ROU [4] (5, 9, 3, 9)
[8] An Jaehyun/Kim Jiho, KOR 4:3 Wang Chuqin/Sun Yingsha, CHN [2] (10, -3, 8, -9, 7, -6, 10)

Final:
[1] Xue Fei/Wang Manyu, CHN 4:1 An Jaehyun/Kim Jiho, KOR [8] (8, 5, 12, -8, 8)

NextLevel
12-03-2017, 10:32 PM
Girls' final was insane, highly recommend everyone watch it. Boys' final less so, hopefully Moregard sorts out his mental game. He was a lot more likeable until he started throwing rackets and tantrums. What skills though!

He is 15. Give him a break.

aznalanx32
12-04-2017, 12:49 AM
Shorter Version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXstOOukARw&t=540s
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXstOOukARw&t=540s)

42andbackpains
12-04-2017, 05:07 AM
I see the touch that Moregard has and he has a lot of potential. But does anybody notice the extreme grip he uses, its very oriented to the backhand side and may hamper his forehand. Anybody think this will hamper his future growth? Like everybody else i would love to see another Waldner.

vik
12-04-2017, 09:10 AM
Moregard reminds me Jan-Ove,only more powerful.

drunix80
12-04-2017, 11:17 AM
I see the touch that Moregard has and he has a lot of potential. But does anybody notice the extreme grip he uses, its very oriented to the backhand side and may hamper his forehand. Anybody think this will hamper his future growth? Like everybody else i would love to see another Waldner.

Even Waldner had so many different grips for different shots. There are many players lile Schlager or Dima who do things differently but excel. I would not worry about Moregard's grip as long as he is comfortable with it.

NextLevel
12-04-2017, 11:33 AM
Even Waldner had so many different grips for different shots. There are many players lile Schlager or Dima who do things differently but excel. I would not worry about Moregard's grip as long as he is comfortable with it.

Or Boll. As Schlager once said, the things that make great players great are not found in the textbooks. Given
how strong Moregardh's forehand is, I find 42andbackpains concern extremely weird.

NextLevel
12-04-2017, 02:27 PM
JesperStef,

The girls final score is definitely wrong. It was deuce in the 7th after all... looks like you took the Girls SF score.

MJB999
12-04-2017, 02:51 PM
Do most of these world junior boys champions and finalists go on to make it as pros? I'm guessing the latest two have got a great chance.

P1ngP0ng3r
12-04-2017, 03:14 PM
I like Truls' style and like watching his matches. But I do not see a new Waldner unfortunately. Moregard misses the incredible feeling of the ball by Waldner. Moregard is still very young and has the potential to become a great player indeed. (I hope he sticks with Stiga and not turn over to BTY.)

ajtatosmano2
12-04-2017, 03:17 PM
Do most of these world junior boys champions and finalists go on to make it as pros? I'm guessing the latest two have got a great chance.

Moregardh is playing in champions league or played last year. Kallberg Anton too. Xue Fei and Wang Chuqin are playing in world tours where china sends players. Yuto Kizukuri is strong in the men's singles events, but he is genial as a doubles player, Uda Yukiya is not bad either. Sidorenko is playing in russian premier league if I remember correctly. I don't know about Denis Ivonin, but his name is familiar to me, maybe from Bundesliga? Someone might correct me. But yeah, these players are doing pretty well and they have big potential.

ttmonster
12-04-2017, 03:18 PM
.. now it would be sounding like a wisecrack ... but honestly I had the vibe when I watched his match against Kanak Jha .. its almost like he thinks that he is too good , but even if you are you cannot show off ... he has a long way to become Waldner , somebody needs to tell him that ... he definitely needs to go to a sports psychiatrist ....


Girls' final was insane, highly recommend everyone watch it. Boys' final less so, hopefully Moregard sorts out his mental game. He was a lot more likeable until he started throwing rackets and tantrums. What skills though!

NextLevel
12-04-2017, 03:34 PM
.. now it would be sounding like a wisecrack ... but honestly I had the vibe when I watched his match against Kanak Jha .. its almost like he thinks that he is too good , but even if you are you cannot show off ... he has a long way to become Waldner , somebody needs to tell him that ... he definitely needs to go to a sports psychiatrist ....

The kid is a 15 year old prodigy being raised to be World Champion. What do you want him to Do?

And he is probably more disappointed in his ability to perform on that stage. But I think people are just gratuitously criticizing him. Waldner wasn't humble either.

NextLevel
12-04-2017, 03:36 PM
Do most of these world junior boys champions and finalists go on to make it as pros? I'm guessing the latest two have got a great chance.
They pretty much all do, except the few with life accidents, injuries and character issues. There is a junior tour that gives rating points so it feeds the senior tour. Whether this will all change with the new rating system will be interesting.

NextLevel
12-04-2017, 03:37 PM
Moregardh is playing in champions league or played last year. Kallberg Anton too. Xue Fei and Wang Chuqin are playing in world tours where china sends players. Yuto Kizukuri is strong in the men's singles events, but he is genial as a doubles player, Uda Yukiya is not bad either. Sidorenko is playing in russian premier league if I remember correctly. I don't know about Denis Ivonin, but his name is familiar to me, maybe from Bundesliga? Someone might correct me. But yeah, these players are doing pretty well and they have big potential.
He is playing this year as well. He is still in Eslov I believe.

suds79
12-04-2017, 05:15 PM
Congrats to Xue Fei. It'll be fun watching him for years.

Better to be early on this than late but this kid has just as good of an RPB as Wang Hao. I never thought I'd see that again.

Better? I don't know. I mean that's hard to say. But who cares if it's better or not. IMO it's right there as far as being just as good. I enjoy watching him just because it seems so foreign to see a RPB that good.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/cache.php?img=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2F3o6fJdhopmSUjaMbJK%2Fgiphy.gif

ttmonster
12-04-2017, 05:52 PM
I was not being gratuitous NL , I honestly think this attitude will be a hindrance to his development ... he would not have a chance to get beaten by Gym Janitors to humble him down ... I did not see any reason for him to throw away that third game in the final ... it was literally suicide ...



.. now it would be sounding like a wisecrack ... but honestly I had the vibe when I watched his match against Kanak Jha .. its almost like he thinks that he is too good , but even if you are you cannot show off ... he has a long way to become Waldner , somebody needs to tell him that ... he definitely needs to go to a sports psychiatrist ....

JesperStef
12-04-2017, 07:58 PM
JesperStef,

The girls final score is definitely wrong. It was deuce in the 7th after all... looks like you took the Girls SF score.

You're right - obviously - so thank you for the correction :o.

NextLevel
12-04-2017, 08:08 PM
I was not being gratuitous NL , I honestly think this attitude will be a hindrance to his development ... he would not have a chance to get beaten by Gym Janitors to humble him down ... I did not see any reason for him to throw away that third game in the final ... it was literally suicide ...

There was a reason - it is called the Chinese front-runner. When a Chinese player gets a comfortable lead, they start taking greater risks. At the beginning of the third game you could see that Xue Fei came out to break him. The kid is 15, he had high expectations for himself and didn't like the fact that he felt helpless. Nothing he was trying was consistently working.

That he settled enough to win the 4th game speaks volumes for his character and to me is the true indicator of his fighting spirit. He was outclassed in that match and couldn't counter XF backhand loops to save his life but he hung in there to get a game.

Even Roger Federer was a bigger headcase at 20. Let's call him a head case when he has enough experience to know better.

ttmonster
12-04-2017, 08:37 PM
.. when I was watching ... I hoping this goes the roger federer way and not the marat safin say ... lets see ....

There was a reason - it is called the Chinese front-runner. When a Chinese player gets a comfortable lead, they start taking greater risks. At the beginning of the third game you could see that Xue Fei came out to break him. The kid is 15, he had high expectations for himself and didn't like the fact that he felt helpless. Nothing he was trying was consistently working.

That he settled enough to win the 4th game speaks volumes for his character and to me is the true indicator of his fighting spirit. He was outclassed in that match and couldn't counter XF backhand loops to save his life but he hung in there to get a game.

Even Roger Federer was a bigger headcase at 20. Let's call him a head case when he has enough experience to know better.

Andy44
12-04-2017, 10:15 PM
Let's call him a head case when he has enough experience to know better.

He has enough experience to know better. Some 15 year olds are rock solid competitors, but Truls isn't one of them. Still impressive and good fighting back to take the 4th game. Hopefully he'll watch the 3rd game video and decide he never again wants to look like such a fool. If table tennis were a team sport his coach would have benched him for bad body language alone.

NextLevel
12-04-2017, 10:17 PM
He has enough experience to know better. Some 15 year olds are rock solid competitors, but Truls isn't one of them. Still impressive and good fighting back to take the 4th game. Hopefully he'll watch the 3rd game video and decide he never again wants to look like such a fool. If table tennis were a team sport his coach would have benched him for bad body language alone.

He is 15. No 15 year old has enough experience to know better.

Andy44
12-04-2017, 10:54 PM
He is 15. No 15 year old has enough experience to know better.

Not in my experience. I was worse than Truls as a 15 year old, but even I knew it was self-defeating. My highest ranked friend was a stone cold competitor who won Brad Gilbert style, almost entirely on smart tactics and mental toughness. Never lost his cool. Successful 15 year olds are more often the toughest competitors rather than the most talented athletes. Almost all have enough experience to know how to conduct themselves. Some can do it, some can't, some won't.

NextLevel
12-04-2017, 11:05 PM
Not in my experience. I was worse than Truls as a 15 year old, but even I knew it was self-defeating. My highest ranked friend was a stone cold competitor who won Brad Gilbert style, almost entirely on smart tactics and mental toughness. Never lost his cool. Successful 15 year olds are more often the toughest competitors rather than the most talented athletes. Almost all have enough experience to know how to conduct themselves. Some can do it, some can't, some won't.
Well if you aren't worse Now, then there is hope for the kid. That is my point. There is temperament and there is refinement. Refinement comes with experience and knowledge. Some 15 yr ikds have temperament but no 15 year old has refinement. At least not on the level required to deal with a complete lack of control over how badly things are going for you.

darucla
12-05-2017, 12:38 AM
Although I may kind of understand the excitement over the Swedish boy, I feel that we should remember that China won every gold medal. I think the interesting times will be 2019 and 2020.

Me, I have my tickets for next year's World Cup Teams, and I am just hoping to see some of the greats of today.

TableTennis BelgiumTV
12-08-2017, 08:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-nqtLNfwFA&list=PLWs86Sm3dNZ8wddgV2DwbdRdKuC9cqAqv&index=9&t=25s