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Dan
10-28-2011, 01:29 PM
I think we can all learn a lot here. This video deserves it's own thread. Video taken from the Chinese National Training at the Stiga Table Tennis (http://www.facebook.com/#!/stigatabletennis) training centre!

Check the video of Ma Long practicing his backhand topspin against backspin with Liu Guoliang's
multi ball! Liu demonstrates how the backhand should be played!

http://images.china.cn/attachement/jpg/site1007/20090522/000cf1bdd2450b80797804.jpg
Photo by: Xinhua/Xu Yu


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlBd0LWP6lM&feature=feedu

What do you think?

For more video's click here (http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?1662-China-Training-Stiga-Centre!)

david93fcb
10-28-2011, 01:36 PM
Impressive, lethal backhands!
I'd love to have Liu as my multi ball coach.. :)

Justchill
10-28-2011, 02:34 PM
Hehe Wang Hao fetching balls :)

Superb BH, I noticed he takes the ball a bit to his side instead of in front of him

WiWa
10-28-2011, 02:38 PM
So much power xD It seems like he start kinda low with his backhand to me. Lower than what I'm used to from most players.

@david You wouldn't love it anymore after a couple of sessions ;)

poltery
10-28-2011, 02:50 PM
liu guoliang shakhand???? hehheh
BTW nice to see ma long produce much power

Mr. RicharD
10-28-2011, 04:25 PM
Most Chinese players are required to learn both shakehand and penhold to at least test out their abilities. This also allows the coaches to create practice partners to play similar to euro/asian opponents. WJJ playing similar to RSM etc. Liu also beat a high ranked woman player shakehand somewhere around his retirement. They gave him a handicap, but he was still able to play shakehand pretty well. When you understand the physics of the sport how you hold the paddle has little to do with the concepts they teach.

YosuaYosan
10-28-2011, 04:57 PM
Neat, clean and powerful :)
Maybe I need to redevelop my twiddle-killer backhand :)

Bryce
10-29-2011, 02:44 AM
Thanks Dan. Keep them coming!!!

UpSideDownCarl
10-29-2011, 03:18 AM
It is funny, the backhands look pretty powerful, but Liu Guoliang looks annoyed with Ma Long at the end as though he was not listening to him. And Ma Long has the facial expression and body language of a boy being scolded. :) You have to love it. The best is not good enough. Hahahah.

blahness
10-29-2011, 05:50 AM
Liu Guoliang wants Ma Long's BH windup to go more to the side than downwards, so that Ma Long can have even greater power. I bet Zhang Jike and Wang Hao regularly hit a lot harder than Ma Long during practice. But seriously, that's already a crazy amount of power Ma Long has.

gzusvictory
11-25-2011, 02:16 AM
Haha, I laughed when I saw Wang Hao picking up the ping pong balls. This video actually helps a lot and it just goes to show that coaches always aim high for the student to learn the most.

Matt Hetherington
11-25-2011, 08:31 AM
Awesome man Liu has done so much for the chinese mens team over the years, he really is a legend

azlan
11-25-2011, 09:31 AM
It is funny, the backhands look pretty powerful, but Liu Guoliang looks annoyed with Ma Long at the end as though he was not listening to him. And Ma Long has the facial expression and body language of a boy being scolded. :) You have to love it. The best is not good enough. Hahahah.

Hahahaha I didn't notice that before, you are right Carl...kinda funny. I think Liu wanted more hip and shoulder rotation from Ma Long, and the boy just couldn't seem to get it. Nice one.

Yes Matt, Liu contributed so much. I think if master Liu calls you in for a multi ball, you know you made it...he's like a coaches coach.

PlasmaLight
11-25-2011, 11:21 AM
i often watch the ma long trainings videos. you can really learn from them. exspecially how he holds his left arm, when he is playing. i tried to do this on my own and it really helps. forhand and backhand became much more powerful and faster :)

judah000
04-13-2012, 11:13 AM
So, no one has the right to say Ma Long has a weak bh.

UpSideDownCarl
04-13-2012, 07:47 PM
So, no one has the right to say Ma Long has a weak bh.

At one point it was, now it is one of the best. He can trade backhands with anyone. In many of those matches against Zhang Jike he want backhand to backhand with Zhang Jike and won a very high percentage of those rallies.

The only person I saw him have trouble going backhand to backhand against was Seiya Kishikawa but, he is sooooooooooooo much better than Kishikawa that it made no difference.

toppines
07-01-2014, 10:06 PM
It's the best.

Alborz
07-02-2014, 07:25 AM
Very explosive BH!
i think he has the best far from the table BH. Near the table, ZJK has the best one.

KM1976
07-02-2014, 09:02 AM
Explosive and very impressive, however, did you notice the similarities between what is taught in the video below


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFeP8C2PM_g

I think that what Ma Long is doing is an advanced form of this tutorial.

Der_Echte
07-02-2014, 02:42 PM
Carl even a relatively fringe top hundred pro like Henzle has a fearsome BH. Many of the younger pros have great BHs. It is a matter of training evolution. Even some older players like Schlager Samsonov Kreanga Primorac Oh S U Karasekavic had excellent bh even by todays standards.

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Eric1999
07-02-2014, 07:32 PM
Ma Long's level is getting higher between 2013 and 2014, he is a beast now and I wish he is a future world champion