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Justchill
11-04-2011, 08:19 AM
Hi,

I am going to change my FH rubber. I'm playing BTY Tenergy 05 Fx now, but it's not for me; it's too hard and too unforgiving and I cannot play a lot of spins on the table.
Last year I played with desto F3 bigslam, but that was a bit too soft and it didn't last long.
The years before that, I played glued samba and mambo :cool:
My game is contra, block and topspin, very controlled, but I also need to spin easily and hard. I guess I need a medium soft rubber, it also has to have a built in glue effect.

so guys, what is your advice for me?

DFC
11-04-2011, 09:33 AM
Hi,

Try Giant Dragon Superspin G3. Its a factory tuned rubber with a long life span. There are 2 versions Hard & Soft, the Hard is more of a medium sponge whereas the Soft is soft. The good thing is that both have tacky tops so you get good spin unlike most soft tensor rubbers. Very easy & enjoyable to play with with high levels of control yet very good speed.

Justchill
11-04-2011, 10:05 AM
Oh... no chinese rubbers...

azlan
11-04-2011, 10:54 AM
Try the new Stiga calibra LT Spin or the slightly harder and older Stiga Calibra LT Sound. Another is the Stiga Boosts TS. I should think all of these are to your liking. They provide massive spins, yet in a controlled manner. I've used them all.

Matt Hetherington
11-04-2011, 12:50 PM
Tibhar Nimbus Medium is a great allround rubber, great control, medium hardness but also packs a punch when on the offensive

UpSideDownCarl
11-04-2011, 02:14 PM
I hit with a friend's blade recently and he had Xiom Omega 3 Euro. It was really one of the best soft rubbers I have felt. I got a lot of control and a lot of spin on all my shots. I think the suggestions above are really good also though. I recently hit with Calibra LT Sound. It was on a hard blade and it was fast.

raazzz
11-04-2011, 05:04 PM
I use Xiom Omega IV Europe which is the best rubber I have ever used for my forehand. Lots of spin, good control and actually good for hard looping too :). If you know someone that uses it, try it! Most people who have tried my blade are surprised of how good Omega IV is, since Xiom isn't a well known rubber here in Sweden yet.

As azlan said, the Calibra rubbers are good too, but I definitely think Xiom Omega IV Europe is on a higher level. But most important is that you like it of course! :)

Hope you find a rubber you like!

Scorpnox
11-04-2011, 07:37 PM
Try Yasaka Rakza 7 ... Very good rubber

Mr. RicharD
11-04-2011, 08:14 PM
Why no Chinese rubbers? Your game seems to have an all around effect to it and if you're not liking T05fx you need to take a step down not laterally. I'm rather confused why you would need a glue effect if you would rather have control and block or drive the ball.

If you really need the glue effect maybe try T05 regular? The sponge is harder allowing for a bit more spin and if you can work on your block it really can do nice things to the ball in your favor.

YosuaYosan
11-04-2011, 11:23 PM
Whats the thickness of your T05FX ?

UpSideDownCarl
11-05-2011, 02:51 AM
Why no Chinese rubbers? Your game seems to have an all around effect to it and if you're not liking T05fx you need to take a step down not laterally. I'm rather confused why you would need a glue effect if you would rather have control and block or drive the ball.

If you really need the glue effect maybe try T05 regular? The sponge is harder allowing for a bit more spin and if you can work on your block it really can do nice things to the ball in your favor.

Not everyone likes Chinese rubbers. I like them. But I like hard rubbers. If he is saying Tenergy 05FX is too hard for him, why recommend something that is harder like Chinese rubbers and T05 regular?

azlan
11-05-2011, 12:07 PM
I agree with Matt, if you want softer, more control, crazy loop, Tibhar Nimbus is the one for you.

Shree
11-05-2011, 12:19 PM
sir
To get more spin we should have proper open angle and the on coming ball should have back spin then you can hit a good topspin on rise of the ball this may help you and then switch over to new rubbers.

Der_Echte
11-05-2011, 05:22 PM
Come spend a year in Korea, join a club, play unlimited matches every day and get 3 lessons a week for around $120 USD average rate in a Seoul club. The lessons and a years worth of club matches/tourneys will do MUCH more for your stroke than a rubber change. On the plus side, it is way cheaper here in Korea and food/adventure factor is off the charts. We even have a Foreigners TT association that plays tourneys here with the Koreans.

Mr. RicharD
11-06-2011, 07:54 PM
@ carl - his problems seem to be the dwell he gets from the softer sponge. A lot of players believe harder sponges equal harder shots, but as Tenergy is a softer topsheet that isn't the case. T05fx is softer and catapults a bit more on flexible blades compared to T05. So if he's missing shots because they're going too long T05 could be better for him or he could try a thinner sponge.

@ Just - you're game doesn't require a speed glue effect. You may have played a lot in the speed glue era, but if you're not attacking the ball a majority of the time as you've said you are you really want to either up speed, spin, or control to fit your game. At the moment you seem to value control and spin so just find some setup that really works towards those. If you want faster rubber then find something like that, but as far as blocking and controlling the game you really should look into something other than the SGE rubbers.

DFC
11-07-2011, 09:07 AM
Not everyone likes Chinese rubbers. I like them. But I like hard rubbers. If he is saying Tenergy 05FX is too hard for him, why recommend something that is harder like Chinese rubbers and T05 regular?
Giant Dragon Superspin G3 is Soft as in European Soft.

Justchill
11-07-2011, 09:33 AM
Current T05FX is 2.1 sponge.
I play Rakza 7 in the backhand, that is a great rubber.

I boosted my Tenerg 05FX + glued it with Elmers + treated with olive oil and it played great.. I have a lot more speed + grip now. I have a controlled game, but sometimes I need to make hard and fast topspins if your playing somebody who also plays like me.
Thanks for the suggestions here.
Der_erste, see you in Korea! ;-)

Rhydian
11-07-2011, 05:14 PM
Unless you have found one or stay with the same, I recommend you Stiga Calibra (heard of them that they're really good) or Xiom Omega IV Europe.
It's my forehand rubber. Before I played Tenergy 05.
It's soft, fast and controlled! I have no problems with it! Plays really good and I can put a lot of variation into the ball!

Cheers

YosuaYosan
11-08-2011, 02:02 PM
Care to try some classic rubber such as Sriver FX ? ;)

Justchill
11-08-2011, 02:21 PM
I played with that 10 years ago

YosuaYosan
11-08-2011, 03:08 PM
I played with that 10 years ago

LOOOL :D
Why don't you try some classic rubbers, might be good :)

UpSideDownCarl
11-08-2011, 03:52 PM
@ carl - his problems seem to be the dwell he gets from the softer sponge. A lot of players believe harder sponges equal harder shots, but as Tenergy is a softer topsheet that isn't the case. T05fx is softer and catapults a bit more on flexible blades compared to T05. So if he's missing shots because they're going too long T05 could be better for him or he could try a thinner sponge.

When someone openly says they are not interested in Chinese rubbers and says that the rubber they are using is too hard, it is a little foolish to ignore what they have said and tell them they need something harder.

But based on this statement:


I boosted my Tenerg 05FX + glued it with Elmers + treated with olive oil and it played great.. I have a lot more speed + grip now. I have a controlled game, but sometimes I need to make hard and fast topspins if your playing somebody who also plays like me.

It sounds like Justchill has figured out how to make the T05FX work for him by softening and expanding the sponge. Sounds like exactly the opposite of what you were recommending for him. Sometimes listening to people is a good thing. They might actually know what they want. :)

dici
11-08-2011, 06:27 PM
I agree with Matt, if you want softer, more control, crazy loop, Tibhar Nimbus is the one for you.

Yea, Nimbus is just very great. One of my friend use it. Whenever he manage to loop the ball, I have no confidence to block it. The only problem for him is just the consistency of hitting the ball.

And don't forget it weight much less than Tenergy series too.

Justchill
11-09-2011, 05:31 PM
Ow yeah, I bought the Joola Xplode sensitive as my next FH rubber. But I'll use it when the Tenergy is deadboosted.