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laistrogian
05-03-2018, 12:59 AM
Looking at the current knock-off rounds for Men division, it looked like Japan is in the better position to get better result. I think china is undisputedly going to win the gold as usual, which means the silver is what the others are hunting for.

If they had win against England, it means they are automatically playing China in the semifinal if they progress there. I think everyone in their right mind would pick Germany than China to play against to get the silver medal, albeit having to play against SK in the quarter.

So what do you guys think?

Takkyu_wa_inochi
05-03-2018, 02:15 AM
I think you have BS in your head

laistrogian
05-03-2018, 03:09 AM
I think you have BS in your head

Not saying I'm certain in the first place, but it's always a possibility.

With current position, Japan is a strong contender to go to final against china. If they won against england, they'd go against china in semi-final which is basically hitting a brick wall for all the teams

Junting
05-03-2018, 03:39 AM
This is nonsense. Whether JPN won or lost, they had 50% chance to meet CNT in the semifinals in both scenario, according to the draw rules.

This is as ridiculous as the thread "Did FZD lose to Harimoto on purpose?" a month ago.

England played well, and JPN also fought hard with spirits. They both performed an entertaining match for us.

Please show some repect to both JPN team and England team!

Tony's Table Tennis
05-03-2018, 05:02 AM
That is why there is a knock out "DRAW".
To prevent conspiracy theories.....

https://d3mjm6zw6cr45s.cloudfront.net/2017/08/2018-WTTC-Playing-System-.pdf
point 2.1.4, 2.1.5

so end of stupid conspiracy theory?

Tony's Table Tennis
05-03-2018, 05:10 AM
oh, and if you think now match fixing is involved...
here is the draw announcement date:
https://d3mjm6zw6cr45s.cloudfront.net/2018/05/2018-WTTC_2ndDraw.jpg


btw, give credit to England
other than beating Japan
they also beat Taiwan

England is on form and maybe the best team at the world championship other than China at the moment (judging by group match performances)

Garrison
05-03-2018, 06:07 AM
The only reason they could have thrown is that they couldn't wait for the match vs China and tried to get them in quarters :rolleyes:

yogi_bear
05-03-2018, 06:26 AM
England really played well and harimoto was owned again.

Loopadoop
05-03-2018, 06:47 AM
Question answered with analysis

https://youtu.be/tj1vGRVX_Tw

zeio
05-03-2018, 07:23 AM
Looking at the current knock-off rounds for Men division, it looked like Japan is in the better position to get better result. I think china is undisputedly going to win the gold as usual, which means the silver is what the others are hunting for.

If they had win against England, it means they are automatically playing China in the semifinal if they progress there. I think everyone in their right mind would pick Germany than China to play against to get the silver medal, albeit having to play against SK in the quarter.

So what do you guys think?

England had a bad draw here. If they were lucky, they could have been in the upper half of bracket, where South Korea is now.

Japan could've been where South Korea is if they were 1st in group. They would've got to avoid China and got a bye in the Rn of 16. Now they have to get Hong Kong 1st and then face South Korea. As it stands now, the draw is so good for China. Expect a boring final.

laistrogian
05-03-2018, 07:47 AM
England had a bad draw here. If they were lucky, they could have been in the upper half of bracket, where South Korea is now.

Japan could've been where South Korea is if they were 1st in group. They would've got to avoid China and got a bye in the Rn of 16. Now they have to get Hong Kong 1st and then face South Korea. As it stands now, the draw is so good for China. Expect a boring final.

I originally thought that there was no draw for the knock-out.

My bad.

lugi2000
05-03-2018, 08:06 AM
:d :d :d :d

zeio
05-03-2018, 08:43 AM
I originally thought that there was no draw for the knock-out.

My bad.

It's fine. Don't worry about it. It's actually fun to ponder.

Now, Japan is really lucky. They could've ended up where Austria, Sweden, or Brazil is, all of whom are 2nd in group. There's only a 25% chance to be where they are now, which is the best alternative for them to have a crack at the final.