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TableTennisDaily
10-02-2018, 01:45 PM
NOW LIVE: Timo Boll vs Fan Zhendong: Live streaming here: https://tv.ittf.com/livestream/paris-table-1/1349424


The 2018 World Cup!

This years Men's World cup will be held in Paris, France from the 19th October to 21st October 2018. The total price money for the event is $250,000 US dollars! World number 1 Fan Zhendong has confirmed his participation as the number 1 seed. Timo Boll comes in as seed 2, followed by Lin Gaoyuan and then Dimitrij Ovtcharov.

This is going to be a fantastic tournament, Why? All you need is to look at the seeds below!

Watch the World Cup unfold on the live streaming here. (https://tv.ittf.com/)

Main Draw

Main Draw (https://bornanblob.blob.core.windows.net/ittf-web-results/html/TTE2875/brackets.html)


China's Fan Zhendong, the World #1 has entered the Men's World Cup as the #1 seed.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/images/fanzhendong2018worldcup.jpg
Fan Zhendong - Photo by: ITTF Flickr

Men's Singles Seeds

01) Fan Zhendong
02) Timo Boll
03) Lin Gaoyuan
04) Dimitrij Ovtcharov
05) Lee Sangsu
06) Tomokazu Harimoto
07) Wong Chun Ting
08) Hugo Calderano
09) Simon Gauzy
10) Koki Niwa
11) Jonathan Groth
12) Mattias Falck
13) Quadri Aruna
14) Jeong Sangeun
15) Vladimir Samsonov
16) Emmanuel Lebesson
17) Gustavo Tsuboi
18) Kanak Jha
19) Panagiotis Gionis
20) Heming Hu

Live matches from the Men's World Cup can be watched in the ITTF Live Streaming.

We can use this thread as a means to display all the latest results, videos and news from this prestigious event! What are your predictions? Who will be crowned the 2018 Men's World Cup Champion? With 20 of the best players in the World fighting to win the Cup, who will be crowned champion? Fan Zhendong? Dimitrij Ovtcharov? Harimoto? Timo Boll? Others? Be sure to also vote in the poll and let us know in the posts below.

eduardo1995filipe
10-02-2018, 02:46 PM
Mizutani, Jeoung Youngsik and Jang Woojin in group phase?

Danny21312
10-02-2018, 03:23 PM
Mizutani, Jeoung Youngsik and Jang Woojin in group phase?
They're not participating.

eduardo1995filipe
10-02-2018, 03:25 PM
They're not participating.Why not?

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Danny21312
10-02-2018, 03:30 PM
Why not?

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Because they weren't invited to the Asian Cup earlier this year and in order to be invited to the WC you need to be place in places 1-7 at the Asian Cup.

eduardo1995filipe
10-02-2018, 03:32 PM
Because they weren't invited to the Asian Cup earlier this year and in order to be invited to the WC you need to be place in places 1-7 at the Asian Cup.Didn't knew that! Thank you [emoji6]

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FruitLoop
10-02-2018, 03:39 PM
No Ma Long for what is one of the major tournaments in table tennis is so weird.

lVegita
10-02-2018, 09:23 PM
Hugo Calderano gg ez

chintanmashroo
10-03-2018, 05:42 AM
Fan ZD vs Harimoto

Revenge time


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usualsuspect
10-03-2018, 02:13 PM
Good luck to Kanak Jha! Hope he makes it out of group stage.

TTHopeful
10-03-2018, 05:10 PM
No Ma Long for what is one of the major tournaments in table tennis is so weird.

He withdrew

Loopadoop
10-03-2018, 05:34 PM
Good luck to Kanak Jha! Hope he makes it out of group stage.

His best win to date is vs a top 20 player on the pro tour.

usualsuspect
10-03-2018, 07:37 PM
His best win to date is vs a top 20 player on the pro tour.

I remember Jha beat Wang Chun Ting last year or earlier this year. Can't remember what tournament. Anyway, I thought that was impressive.

Loopadoop
10-17-2018, 06:03 AM
What seeds do you think will do the most damage above them ?

I think Harimoto #6 and Koki Niwa #10 will both upset higher seeded players.

cayenne
10-17-2018, 06:48 AM
Jeong sangeun and calderano can make it imo..

FunnyBunny
10-17-2018, 08:36 AM
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​boys on the way...

TTHopeful
10-18-2018, 04:49 PM
The groups came out today! Hugo vs Vladimir Samsonov !

randman
10-18-2018, 05:21 PM
I vote Fan Zhendong

Loopadoop
10-18-2018, 05:38 PM
Watch out for Harimoto. He might have extra motivation after losing in the Youth Olympic Games.

usualsuspect
10-18-2018, 07:56 PM
I'm glad Kanak Jha got into one of the easier groups, with Gauzy and Aruna. This way, he at least has a chance.
Group A is a nightmare: Calderano, Samsonov, and Lebesson.

chintanmashroo
10-19-2018, 03:56 AM
Mostly he will waste all his energy in shouting “CHO!” out loud after each point and lose to someone.


Watch out for Harimoto. He might have extra motivation after losing in the Youth Olympic Games.




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Takkyu_wa_inochi
10-19-2018, 04:25 AM
I hope Harimoto will win this tournament but Fan Zhendong is the great favorite to win and there are many great players. It should be an exciting tournament !!!

TotoRotor
10-19-2018, 07:59 AM
I support Gauzy but i hope that Lin Gaoyuan will win. I like his game a lot.

cayenne
10-19-2018, 08:08 AM
Gogo jeong

Loopadoop
10-19-2018, 08:27 AM
Live

Calderano's serves are illegal. He leaves his free arm extended after the high toss, never does remove it.

Ravil
10-19-2018, 09:01 AM
I don't think so. You can see the contact point and the toss is clean. The free hand though extended doesn't hide the contact point.

Takkyu_wa_inochi
10-19-2018, 09:33 AM
Huge comeback from Lebesson ! the crowd helped him to get into LeBeastOn mode...

TTHopeful
10-19-2018, 09:47 AM
Lebesson wins over Calderano. Did not see this coming. Lebesson so awkward player

FruitLoop
10-19-2018, 10:24 AM
Calderano has not pushed on from his great form earlier in the year. Definitely not playing like a top 10 player right now. Barely top 30. He is very young still though.

TotoRotor
10-19-2018, 10:26 AM
And also lebesson, he's hiding ball with shoulder and body...
Mostly none top player serves are legal... May be samsonov is the only one.

Danny21312
10-19-2018, 10:28 AM
Harimoto's serve is pretty legal if you ask me..

ILoveTT
10-19-2018, 11:02 AM
My money is on FZD, i think hes going to destroy this event

Loopadoop
10-19-2018, 11:32 AM
Samsonov 4-1 eliminates Calderano

ping fun
10-19-2018, 11:40 AM
Yes !! Vladi never gets old for Table tennis

Danny21312
10-19-2018, 11:44 AM
That's surprising. I thought Hugo will go far in this event

perham
10-19-2018, 01:02 PM
Yes !! Vladi never gets old for Table tennis

He’s such a legend. And not only for his game, but also for his sportsmanship and general behavior behind the table. Unlike players who yell at each point to throw the opponent off.


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ping fun
10-19-2018, 01:07 PM
He’s such a legend. And not only for his game, but also for his sportsmanship and general behavior behind the table. Unlike players who yell at each point to throw the opponent off.




Yes such a humble guy ! And again yes I never have haerd vladi's shouting during his game , maybe after his winning . Good manner .

Loopadoop
10-19-2018, 01:09 PM
Live in 35 minutes an elimination game

USA Kanak Jha vs Quadri Aruna

FruitLoop
10-19-2018, 01:32 PM
Yes such a humble guy ! And again yes I never have haerd vladi's shouting during his game , maybe after his winning . Good manner .

And he still competes at this level at his age? Inspirational!

drunix80
10-19-2018, 02:02 PM
Uncle Vladi gets past Lebesson 4-2. Quite incredible !!

GusShnaps
10-19-2018, 02:15 PM
Hugo has lost both matches and is out of the tournament :(
I was rooting for him. Too bad he ended up on the "worst group" and lost both games.

lVegita
10-19-2018, 02:21 PM
Hugo has lost both matches and is out of the tournament :(
I was rooting for him. Too bad he ended up on the "worst group" and lost both games.

Yeah, really sad. Gustavo Tsuboi is still on though.

sacofrito
10-19-2018, 02:27 PM
2 brasileiros conversando em ingles kkk que daora

Uma pena Hugo perder, foram jogos bem parelhos. Gustavo enfiou a mão na bola com vontade, baita jogo contra o Gionis.

Sadly Hugo lost.

Tsuboi made a great game against Gionis.

Danny21312
10-19-2018, 02:55 PM
Kanak finally makes it to the main draw.

Free bird
10-19-2018, 03:02 PM
Yes Kanak! USA USA USA

drunix80
10-19-2018, 03:20 PM
Kanak did a great job against Aruna. Also his match against Gauzy was tight (All games were pretty close desipe 0:4 score).

Way to go !!!

usualsuspect
10-19-2018, 03:28 PM
Yes Kanak! USA USA USA

Yeah! go Jha!

Now, please pair up with one of the following players in the first round, otherwise he's out for sure.
Tsuboi, Lebesson, and Wong Chun Ting

Danny21312
10-19-2018, 03:30 PM
He won't pair with Tsuboi or Lebesson since they're both from the group stage as well. He'll face one of the 8 seeded players.

Danny21312
10-19-2018, 03:39 PM
Draw with only the top 4 seeds is out. FZD and LGY face each other in the semis.

Free bird
10-19-2018, 03:43 PM
The draw is still going on. But FZD and LGY in the top half. Timo, Dima, and HARIMOTO in the bottom half. So there is a real possibility to see FZD - HARIMOTO final. Wow!

Free bird
10-19-2018, 03:57 PM
My prediction: FZD beat LGY to meet HARIMOTO in the final. HARIMOTO beat Timo and Gauzy in his way to the final. But there is no suspension as far as who will be the final winner

Danny21312
10-19-2018, 03:59 PM
Harimoto has Jeong Sangeun on his first round. Last time they played Harimoto lost pretty badly to him.

Loopadoop
10-19-2018, 04:14 PM
R16

Kanak Jha vs Lin Gaoyuan

Free bird
10-19-2018, 04:14 PM
I know. That’ll be a tough one. But I have a feeling HT will overcome.


Harimoto has Jeong Sangeun on his first round. Last time they played Harimoto lost pretty badly to him.

Free bird
10-19-2018, 04:17 PM
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Free bird
10-19-2018, 04:18 PM
Poor Jha, barely see him :)

Takkyu_wa_inochi
10-19-2018, 04:24 PM
I have a scoop for you guys:

in the next World Championships, Kanak JHA will play with DING Ning !!!!

FruitLoop
10-19-2018, 04:27 PM
Timo FZD final?

ping fun
10-19-2018, 04:29 PM
Mattias can enjoy this moment ( holding the cup ) for a while :cool:

Takkyu_wa_inochi
10-19-2018, 04:29 PM
Fan - harimoto ?

ping fun
10-19-2018, 04:34 PM
Timo FZD final?

Its better and possible , I wanna watch the final without shouting .

Free bird
10-19-2018, 04:47 PM
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A selfie. This time from HT

Takkyu_wa_inochi
10-19-2018, 04:49 PM
Mickey is gonna win the title

ping fun
10-19-2018, 04:51 PM
Mickey is gonna win the title

Yeah possible to see Mickey vs FZD in final :D

cayenne
10-19-2018, 05:17 PM
Go jeong

lVegita
10-19-2018, 05:23 PM
Any chances of this happening again? [emoji854]


https://youtu.be/xh_QMFuAWL4

usualsuspect
10-19-2018, 07:21 PM
R16

Kanak Jha vs Lin Gaoyuan

Oh no! Jha should try to enjoy Paris after his early exit.
Not being pessimistic, just being realistic...

ttmonster
10-19-2018, 07:57 PM
I think Kanak has the best possible draw he could have had given the players to go deep , if I was him I would be thinking "This is my chance"


Oh no! Jha should try to enjoy Paris after his early exit.
Not being pessimistic, just being realistic...

ping fun
10-19-2018, 08:09 PM
;) I want to see this after final but who can stop FZD ?

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JesperStef
10-19-2018, 08:57 PM
Results from Day 1 (Fri 19 October)

Group A:
[9] Hugo Calderano 3:4 Emmanuel Lebesson [17] (9:11, 11:9, 11:7, 11:7, 9:11, 10:12, 8:11)
[9] Hugo Calderano 1:4 Vladimir Samsonov [15] (12:10, 9:11, 7:11, 12:14, 11:13)
[15] Vladimir Samsonov 4:2 Emmanuel Lebesson [17] (11:6, 7:11, 11:6, 8:11, 11:3, 13:11)


Group B:
[10] Simon Gauzy 4:0 Kanak Jha [18] (11:6, 12:10, 13:11, 11:9)
[10] Simon Gauzy 4:3 Quadri Aruna [14] (7:11, 10:12, 5:11, 11:9, 11:6, 11:5, 11:5)
[14] Quadri Aruna 2:4 Kanak Jha [18] (7:11, 9:11, 11:8, 7:11, 11:8, 8:11)


Group C:
[11] Jeong Sangeun 4:1 Panagiotis Gionis [19] (11:7, 11:6, 5:11, 11:5, 11:4)
[11] Jeong Sangeun 4:0 Gustavo Tsuboi [16] (11:5, 11:8, 11:7, 11:7)
[16] Gustavo Tsuboi 4:1 Panagiotis Gionis [19] (11:6, 11:8, 11:8, 6:11, 11:8)


Group D:
[12] Jonathan Groth 4:0 Heming Hu [20] (11:8, 11:7, 11:9, 11:4)
[12] Jonathan Groth 4:3 Mattias Falck [13] (4:11, 11:5, 12:10, 11:7, 7:11, 5:11, 11:8)
[13] Mattias Falck 4:0 Heming Hu [20] (11:5, 11:8, 11:6, 11:6)

JesperStef
10-19-2018, 09:10 PM
Main Draw:

Round of 16:

[1] Fan Zhendong vs Gustavo Tsuboi [16]
[15] Vladimir Samsonov vs Wong Chun Ting [8]


[8] Koki Niwa vs Jonathan Groth [12]
[18] Kanak Jha vs Lin Gaoyuan [4]


[3] Dimitrij Ovtcharov vs Mattias Falck [13]
[10] Simon Gauzy vs Lee Sangsu [5]


[6] Tomokazu Harimoto vs Jeong Sangeun [11]
[17] Emmanuel Lebesson vs Timo Boll [2]

Takkyu_wa_inochi
10-20-2018, 12:53 AM
I have a scoop for you guys:

in the next World Championships, Kanak JHA will play with DING Ning !!!!

seems you guys are not reacting, its the Ning-JHA pair !!!!

here is their brand new racket !!!

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ttmonster
10-20-2018, 01:04 AM
The "anatomic" handle only make sense if its somebody else like Liu Shiwen ...

seems you guys are not reacting, its the Ning-JHA pair !!!!

here is their brand new racket !!!

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TableTennisDaily
10-20-2018, 07:33 AM
Day 1 review:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Azbsmgewhl4

Table Tennis Reborn
10-20-2018, 07:38 AM
OKI my R16 predicts:

Round of 16:

Fan Zhendong 4--0 Gustavo Tsuboi
Vladimir Samsonov 4--2 Wong Chun Ting


Koki Niwa 4--1 Jonathan Groth
Kanak Jha 0--4 Lin Gaoyuan


Dimitrij Ovtcharov 4--2 Mattias Falck
Simon Gauzy 2--4 Lee Sangsu


Tomokazu Harimoto 4--1 Jeong Sangeun
Emmanuel Lebesson 1--4 Timo Boll

Herbert
10-20-2018, 08:12 AM
Good commentator now!

ping fun
10-20-2018, 09:14 AM
OKI my R16 predicts:

Round of 16:

Fan Zhendong 4--0 Gustavo Tsuboi
Vladimir Samsonov 4--2 Wong Chun Ting


Koki Niwa 4--1 Jonathan Groth
Kanak Jha 0--4 Lin Gaoyuan


Dimitrij Ovtcharov 4--2 Mattias Falck
Simon Gauzy 2--4 Lee Sangsu


Tomokazu Harimoto 4--1 Jeong Sangeun
Emmanuel Lebesson 1--4 Timo Boll

Give some chance to French boys

zeio
10-20-2018, 10:50 AM
It's rare for Harimoto to lose to the same player twice in a row. Will Jeong Sangeun be the next Pitchford?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlvRZx_ZO00

zeio
10-20-2018, 10:59 AM
I see the Harimoto at Japan Open here. Missing more BH than FH. FH looks less awkward this time.

Danny21312
10-20-2018, 11:05 AM
I see the Harimoto at Japan Open here. Missing more BH than FH. FH looks less awkward this time.
Maybe he could win this tournament like he did the Japan Open.

FruitLoop
10-20-2018, 11:18 AM
Fantastic performance from Harimoto. He solved all the problems so quickly. Very few errors.

zeio
10-20-2018, 11:45 AM
How many games can Kanak get?

https://i.imgur.com/nJ0dtLY.png

RidTheKid
10-20-2018, 11:47 AM
That also depends on the opponent.


Fantastic performance from Harimoto. He solved all the problems so quickly. Very few errors.

RidTheKid
10-20-2018, 11:48 AM
I'm guessing one.


How many games can Kanak get?

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/cache.php?img=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FnJ0dtLY.png

drunix80
10-20-2018, 11:57 AM
Fantastic performance from Harimoto. He solved all the problems so quickly. Very few errors.

Completely outplaying Jeong 4-0 really shows how good he has become.

Ioiettino
10-20-2018, 12:23 PM
Go Kanak! 1-1

Heck of a crowd in Paris cheering for him.

ping fun
10-20-2018, 12:54 PM
Completely outplaying Jeong 4-0 really shows how good he has become.

Maybe it was Jeong 's bad day , lets wait for the next game

Takkyu_wa_inochi
10-20-2018, 12:57 PM
Hari will be totally pumped up against Boll

Ioiettino
10-20-2018, 12:59 PM
Heck of a crowd in Paris cheering for him.

That didn't last. :-(

Danny21312
10-20-2018, 01:44 PM
Maybe it was Jeong 's bad day , lets wait for the next game
Lol you just can't say one good thing about Harimoto can you? Harimoto simply outplayed Jeong. Stop with the excuses and accept that Harimoto is an amazing player whether you like him or not.

RidTheKid
10-20-2018, 02:21 PM
No doubt HT is already a great player and perhaps the greatest talent in TT ever, but his opponent didn't play very smart and looked without ideas most of the time. And by your logic Truls is even better and should be ranked higher seeing as he beat HT very recently?


Lol you just can't say one good thing about Harimoto can you? Harimoto simply outplayed Jeong. Stop with the excuses and accept that Harimoto is an amazing player whether you like him or not.

eduardo1995filipe
10-20-2018, 02:26 PM
Is Vladi using Hybrid K1 rubbers? Doesn't seem the Evo series red sponge!

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zeio
10-20-2018, 02:29 PM
China = Belarus.

https://i.imgur.com/s6VGTyc.png

Takkyu_wa_inochi
10-20-2018, 02:34 PM
is WCT finished ?

ping fun
10-20-2018, 03:06 PM
is WCT finished ?

Ask Zeio about Finished players ;)

zeio
10-20-2018, 03:17 PM
Gauzy's BH at the table has improved.

5:2, 5:6 and TO for Gauzy. A little late, to be honest. 5:9, 6:9, 6:10, 8:10, 8:11.

Takkyu_wa_inochi
10-20-2018, 03:33 PM
Gauzy's BH at the table has improved.

5:2, 5:6 and TO for Gauzy. A little late, to be honest. 5:9, 6:9, 6:10, 8:10, 8:11.

it was the best match so far today I've seen. What a disappointment for Simon :-(

but he can be proud of his performance, his best in a while

ping fun
10-20-2018, 03:57 PM
I like the french fans so much , They made the games more exciting to be honest . They enjoyed simon's game so much but what a critical moment .... Simon's victory would be so good for the tournament , I hope the next games attract more Audience

Free bird
10-20-2018, 05:23 PM
FZD, the monster, shows his best form here against Vladi and HARIMOTO has showed very encouraging progress in the game. I’m a happy camper at the moment

Garrison
10-20-2018, 05:30 PM
Come on Vladi boy steal him a game or two!

NextLevel
10-20-2018, 05:43 PM
Come on Vladi boy steal him a game or two!

Nah - to beat Fan, you can't just block. He is the most consistent and powerful player I have ever seen. You need to make him use his short forehand out of sequence. Vladi would do better vs Ma Long than Fan.

zeio
10-20-2018, 05:44 PM
FZD says he could control the pace better and perhaps make some tweaks. He also points out that Samsonov is a player to look up to and the tactics he uses is inspiring.

zeio
10-20-2018, 05:46 PM
Nah - to beat Fan, you can't just block. He is the most consistent and powerful player I have ever seen. You need to make him use his short forehand out of sequence. Vladi would do better vs Ma Long than Fan.

LGL didn't dub him "the bulldozer" for nothing.

zeio
10-20-2018, 06:26 PM
Best Niwa in 2018.

JST
10-20-2018, 06:31 PM
Best Niwa in 2018.

...but still not enough:(

NextLevel
10-20-2018, 06:32 PM
Best Niwa in 2018.

Yes, lots of positive points for Niwa, he just lost focus too often on critical points. The two lazy points at 1-2, 9-9 were the most telling.

Free bird
10-20-2018, 07:42 PM
Wow. The biggest surprise for me is How fast Dima is coming back. What an extraordinary match against LSS!

zeio
10-20-2018, 07:44 PM
I fell asleep half way through. Most boring QF.

Harimoto's FH fix holding up pretty well. Was trailing behind from the get go until 4:8.

Boll in best-ever form this year.

Harimoto has a slight upper hand in the short game. 10:8, that edge couldn't come at a better time for Boll, 10:10, 11:13.

ping fun
10-20-2018, 08:14 PM
Harimoto is frightening and dangerous vs timo . So fasttttttt . Omg . Sth I cant see the ball . But timo got the 3rd game


Edited : And fourth game . Timo is on

zeio
10-20-2018, 08:28 PM
Harimoto misses the crucial FH kills in the 3rd and 5th games.

This Boll could steamroll Ovtcharov.

ping fun
10-20-2018, 08:32 PM
Yesssss . Timo did it :cool: It was a very spectacular game , Also timo's victory made it more enjoyable . Really I dont know if harimoto will get better than this or not but he played really well vs timo . If he gets better he's gonna be a Monster for sure .....

Free bird
10-20-2018, 08:32 PM
I’m in disbelief. I’ve never seen Timo played so aggressive before. He moves as better as anytime in his career at 36 years age. What a pleasant surprise!

I see real change in HT’s game in the right direction. Keep it going HARIMOTO

lVegita
10-20-2018, 08:39 PM
This will be fun

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Just noticed that these are the top 4 on the ITTF ranking as well (excluding Xu Xin, who is not participating).

perham
10-20-2018, 08:45 PM
Harimoto will have many more fans if he stops the yelling between points. It’s so annoying. Happy to see Timo win. He’s always a gentleman.


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TTHopeful
10-20-2018, 09:07 PM
Timo Fan Zhendong final pleasee

eduardo1995filipe
10-20-2018, 11:11 PM
Now as the other semi final is between two german players, Lin Gaoyuan probably will be forced to loose, as FZD gives more hopes(theoretically)

FruitLoop
10-20-2018, 11:35 PM
Timo is a god. I think he beats Dima who is just fighting so hard but will be tired.

Superdragon
10-20-2018, 11:53 PM
What's wrong with the floor? Players are slipping and falling too much. Is there some "groundskeeper" guy who is going to get in trouble for the slippery surface?

drunix80
10-21-2018, 12:44 AM
FZD vs either Dima/Timo would be a great final.

ZhouZhekai
10-21-2018, 04:29 AM
Is it just me or have Fan Zhendong's legs gotten even bigger?

ping fun
10-21-2018, 04:32 AM
Is it just me or have Fan Zhendong's legs gotten even bigger?

Maybe fatter :p

Takkyu_wa_inochi
10-21-2018, 05:35 AM
Too much creatin

drunix80
10-21-2018, 07:18 AM
FZD can donate some to Koki Niwa :)

ping fun
10-21-2018, 08:36 AM
FZD can donate some to Koki Niwa :)

Lol ... These players should never take photo with zhang jike and FZD in shorts . Looks so weird .

NextLevel
10-21-2018, 08:52 AM
Now as the other semi final is between two german players, Lin Gaoyuan probably will be forced to loose, as FZD gives more hopes(theoretically)
Nah, who ever loses still gets the 3rd place match so I think the best man will be decided in the match.

belugma
10-21-2018, 09:04 AM
Timo brought his lucky shirt from last year ;)

TableTennisDaily
10-21-2018, 09:12 AM
Live on ITTF Facebook:

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Sali
10-21-2018, 09:17 AM
So far Timo looks like no motivation, he is slow and not fighting.

eduardo1995filipe
10-21-2018, 09:18 AM
Nah, who ever loses still gets the 3rd place match so I think the best man will be decided in the match. I think FZD could beat more easily both players, but about this, my chinese coach told me about things work like this in CNT, but just in case if the other finalist is non-chinese, otherwise it's not like this. [emoji14]

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Garrison
10-21-2018, 09:26 AM
Dima seems to get a bit of his form back. Playing Timo is very good for his confidence since he knows him so well.

belugma
10-21-2018, 09:29 AM
So far Timo looks like no motivation, he is slow and not fighting.

Tbh, I feel like he always holds back a little bit when he plays against Dimitri, maybe because he is a close friend - I don't know.

But rewatch the point in the 2nd set from 10-5 to 10-6. How he moves in this extent with ducking/dodging, whatever you want to call it. I have only seen this type of moving by much younger players or by Timo Boll frequently around 6 years ago (e.g. 2012 Olympics) :) Footwork however looks bad, especially wide balls, maybe injury on one leg.

JesperStef
10-21-2018, 09:29 AM
Results from Day 2 (Sat 20 October 2018)

Round of 16:

[1] Fan Zhendong 4:0 Gustavo Tsuboi [16] (11:7, 11:9, 11:6, 11:8)
[15] Vladimir Samsonov 4:1 Wong Chun Ting [8] (11:6, 12:10, 11:9, 7:11, 11:7)

[8] Koki Niwa 4:1 Jonathan Groth [12] (11:8, 11:5, 4:11, 12:10, 11:5)
[18] Kanak Jha 1:4 Lin Gaoyuan [4] (8:11, 11:6, 7:11, 6:11, 3:11)

[3] Dimitrij Ovtcharov 4:3 Mattias Falck [13] (11:5, 4:11, 7:11, 13:11, 11:3, 5:11, 12:10)
[10] Simon Gauzy 3:4 Lee Sangsu [5] (6:11, 11:4, 11:6, 7:11, 11:6, 8:11, 8:11)

[6] Tomokazu Harimoto 4:0 Jeong Sangeun [11] (11:6, 11:6, 11:7, 11:7)
[17] Emmanuel Lebesson 1:4 Timo Boll [2] (8:11, 11:8, 8:11, 5:11, 7:11)


Quarter-finals:

[1] Fan Zhendong 4:0 Vladimir Samsonov [15] (11:3, 11:6, 12:10, 11:6)
[8] Koki Niwa 1:4 Lin Gaoyuan [4] (10:12, 11:5, 12:14, 9:11, 5:11)

[3] Dimitrij Ovtcharov 4:3 Lee Sangsu [5] (11:7, 11:5, 11:13, 9:11, 5:11, 11:5, 11:5)
[6] Tomokazu Harimoto 1:4 Timo Boll [2] (11:9, 3:11, 11:13, 5:11, 9:11)


Source: https://www.ittf.com/tournament/2875/liebherr-mens-world-cup/

Garrison
10-21-2018, 09:46 AM
Boll looks injured. Not dramatic but he is surely not just moving bad because of tiredness

NextLevel
10-21-2018, 09:50 AM
Boll looks injured. Not dramatic but he is surely not just moving bad because of tiredness

Yeah I think everyone can see this.

cmbaX
10-21-2018, 09:56 AM
Timo looks diminished... playing against a friend probably doesn't help. He seems to excuse himself when he wins a point. But if he wins, he'll have to recuperate fast! If not, then Dima has as much chance. Hopefully an exciting final!

zeio
10-21-2018, 09:58 AM
Is it just me or have Fan Zhendong's legs gotten even bigger?

https://i.imgur.com/Op3sE25.gif

Garrison
10-21-2018, 10:02 AM
Timo doesn't want to disappoint the viewers, but when he wins and has to give up in the final it will be even worse for them. Mmh

hipnotic
10-21-2018, 10:04 AM
Is it me or Timo's reverse pendulum serve is always over the table?

chintanmashroo
10-21-2018, 10:05 AM
Timo boll right leg injury


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zeio
10-21-2018, 10:21 AM
It's like a sequela coupled with old age, Boll's right quads have never been able to take excessive load for an extended time ever since 2015. He limps whenever he pushes himself over the limits.

hipnotic
10-21-2018, 10:22 AM
Is it just me or have Fan Zhendong's legs gotten even bigger?

I think he lost some fat, so his legs look fuller.

FruitLoop
10-21-2018, 11:14 AM
I would love Timo to win the final but I think it's a step too far. Still tremendous to get to another final.

Takkyu_wa_inochi
10-21-2018, 11:18 AM
Timo needs a bullet-proof jacket to play the final

Danny21312
10-21-2018, 11:22 AM
I know the tournament isn't over yet, but man, i gotta say that the World Cup this year (both women and men but especially women) has been really predictable and unsurprising. Sure there were lots of great rallies but me personally what makes me excited about these events are the upsets and surprise outcomes. We'll see what happens in the final and the 3rd place match but i'm not expecting anything surprising to happen.

Takkyu_wa_inochi
10-21-2018, 11:23 AM
I know the tournament isn't over yet, but man, i gotta say that the World Cup this year (both women and men but especially women) has been really predictable and unsurprising. Sure there were lots of great rallies but me personally what makes me excited about these events are the upsets and surprise outcomes. We'll see what happens in the final and the 3rd place match but i'm not expecting anything surprising to happen.

we don't want surprises, we just want the best players to win and see good matches

zeio
10-21-2018, 11:28 AM
Well, I'm surprised the boy failed to play at 100%.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rlDmQipm4U

matzreenzi
10-21-2018, 11:31 AM
Timo really need some advises from ML on how to deal with FZD

FruitLoop
10-21-2018, 11:33 AM
What time is the final?

JST
10-21-2018, 11:34 AM
What time is the final?

4PM local time (Paris, GMT+2), 2 and half hour from now.

Garrison
10-21-2018, 12:28 PM
At least the leg won't hinder Boll as much as back or hip problems would. If he wants to have a chance, he needs to win game 1 or 2, preferably both :D

FruitLoop
10-21-2018, 12:29 PM
4PM local time (Paris, GMT+2), 2 and half hour from now.

Is it daylight savings in western Europe already? Paris is GMT +1!

langel
10-21-2018, 12:54 PM
At least the leg won't hinder Boll as much as back or hip problems would. If he wants to have a chance, he needs to win game 1 or 2, preferably both :D

i don't know... Its his trade mark to lose the first games.

JST
10-21-2018, 01:04 PM
Is it daylight savings in western Europe already? Paris is GMT +1!I believe it is daylight saving time in EU still... any internet time keeper will tell ypu when is 4PM in Paris today;)

langel
10-21-2018, 01:30 PM
Is it daylight savings in western Europe already? Paris is GMT +1!

Summer time in Paris is GMT+2,
But speaking of PARIS particularly - GMT is PARIS-2!

dominus7
10-21-2018, 01:43 PM
Better just tell the time left to the final
Summer time in Paris is GMT+2,
But speaking of PARIS particularly - GMT is PARIS-2!

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Loopadoop
10-21-2018, 01:46 PM
Wow - Kanak Jha and Dimitrij Ovtcharov are at the same level.

Both lost to Lin Gaoyuan 1-4.

Garrison
10-21-2018, 02:04 PM
Timo Timo!

​@Loopadoop, that's not how this works ;D

Danny21312
10-21-2018, 02:31 PM
Doesn't look like i'm missing anything that's worth watching at the moment

NextLevel
10-21-2018, 02:45 PM
Doesn't look like i'm missing anything that's worth watching at the moment
We all know the result, the only question is how many games can Timo get...

Shadow
10-21-2018, 02:55 PM
Thomas Tuchel watching his compatriot

drunix80
10-21-2018, 02:59 PM
We all know the result, the only question is how many games can Timo get...

Timo got one. Not bad. FZD always looked invincible in this event except for the first two games against LGY. One marked difference in FZD's gameplay in this event is his patience to wait it out to strike instead of trying to hammer everything.

zeio
10-21-2018, 03:05 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Jf3jwjd.png?1

Giangt
10-21-2018, 03:22 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Jf3jwjd.png?1

Timo: If you haven't beaten LGY I would have won the WC once again... (SIGH)

NextLevel
10-21-2018, 03:47 PM
Timo got one. Not bad. FZD always looked invincible in this event except for the first two games against LGY. One marked difference in FZD's gameplay in this event is his patience to wait it out to strike instead of trying to hammer everything.
Marked difference? I actually disagree. If anything, FZD is known for his consistency. Where I agree with you is that he sometimes plays Chinese style and tries to hammer you with early attacks. But FZD is really at his best when he plays the Euro-looping style and relies on his consistency, power and Chinese technique to just abuse the opponent.

I think he has basically built the fitness now with Wang Hao's coaching to play that way at will. If LJK builds that fitness at well, their matches will be interesting in the future.

JesperStef
10-21-2018, 04:58 PM
Results from Day 3 (Sun 21 October 2018)

Semi-finals:

[1] Fan Zhendong 4:1 Lin Gaoyuan [4] (10:12, 12:10, 15:13, 11:7, 11:6)
[3] Dimitrij Ovtcharov 2:4 Timo Boll [2] (14:12, 7:11, 13:15, 11:9, 11:13, 5:11)


3rd place match:

[4] Lin Gaoyuan 4:1 Dimitrij Ovtcharov [3] (11:7, 11:9, 9:11, 11:4, 11:3)


Final:

[1] Fan Zhendong 4:1 Timo Boll [2] (11:9, 11:5, 11:6, 9:11, 11:8)


Final standings:
Gold: Fan Zhendong (China) [1]
Silver: Timo Boll (Germany) [2]
Bronze: Lin Gaoyuan (China) [4]
4th place: Dimitrij Ovtcharov (Germany) [3]


Source: https://www.ittf.com/tournament/2875/liebherr-mens-world-cup/

RidTheKid
10-21-2018, 05:05 PM
So you don't like high quality table tennis, sounds like fun.


Doesn't look like i'm missing anything that's worth watching at the moment

Danny21312
10-21-2018, 05:22 PM
So you don't like high quality table tennis, sounds like fun.
So you like complete domination and predictable outcome, sounds like fun.

ttmonster
10-21-2018, 05:26 PM
But I have the feeling LJK is not as smart as FZD from a game sense perspective .. technique was its close but FZD has better sense of how to approach a point given a game situation

Marked difference? I actually disagree. If anything, FZD is known for his consistency. Where I agree with you is that he sometimes plays Chinese style and tries to hammer you with early attacks. But FZD is really at his best when he plays the Euro-looping style and relies on his consistency, power and Chinese technique to just abuse the opponent.

I think he has basically built the fitness now with Wang Hao's coaching to play that way at will. If LJK builds that fitness at well, their matches will be interesting in the future.

NextLevel
10-21-2018, 05:28 PM
But I have the feeling LJK is not as smart as FZD from a game sense perspective .. technique was its close but FZD has better sense of how to approach a point given a game situation

Yes, rainneverever has said as much, but it is partly experience as well as fitness. Success sometimes feeds itself and when you are fitter, your options and confidence expand. In terms of power, he is the only person I think of and compare to FZD.

RidTheKid
10-21-2018, 05:42 PM
That's in your head. I love the highest quality table tennis, and we surely got it. We've had whiners on this forum before who complained that seeing chinese tt is so boring, the response is the same: who's twisting your arm forcing you to watch it? I think you need to find a new hobby because this domination isn't ending anytime soon.


So you like complete domination and predictable outcome, sounds like fun.

Danny21312
10-21-2018, 05:54 PM
That's in your head. I love the highest quality table tennis, and we surely got it. We've had whiners on this forum before who complained that seeing chinese tt is so boring, the response is the same: who's twisting your arm forcing you to watch it? I think you need to find a new hobby because this domination isn't ending anytime soon.
Whatever man. You do you. I hope you'll have fun watching the chinese continue dominating forever. Different strokes for different folks i guess.

RidTheKid
10-21-2018, 06:04 PM
Definitely. I'm just curious, what do you think that you'll achieve by airing your negativity here about the best table tennis on this planet?


Whatever man. You do you. I hope you'll have fun watching the chinese continue dominating forever. Different strokes for different folks i guess.

Danny21312
10-21-2018, 06:12 PM
Definitely. I'm just curious, what do you think that you'll achieve by airing your negativity here about the best table tennis on this planet?
How does me just saying my opinion airs negativity? Is it forbidden to say anything that contradicts what most of the members in this forum (i'm assuming) like?

ttmonster
10-21-2018, 06:18 PM
Guys just lay off ...

How does me just saying my opinion airs negativity? Is it forbidden to say anything that contradicts what most of the members in this forum (i'm assuming) like?

ping fun
10-21-2018, 08:12 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Jf3jwjd.png?1

FZD could win Dima and hari like piece a of cake , I know its a Joke but timo was the strongest of these three .

zeio
10-21-2018, 08:41 PM
Right, Boll also happens to be the only one out of the 3 to have never scored a win over FZD.

jamesmith
10-22-2018, 02:37 AM
pls don,t argue and angry with each other, enjoy table tennis is the main thing, Chinese is helping other countries, they send a lot coaches and players outside , hoping that the other countries and catch up . It is not a crime to win all the time, the other countries should try hard to catch up. Look at this way, we try to enjoy to see if other countries to beat the Chinese, if not , we should just enjoy the game. FZD plays good table tennis, Timo has a very good experience, they both good players.

jamesmith
10-22-2018, 02:38 AM
Timo also dominate in Europe, are we still watching him? yes of-course

Loopadoop
10-22-2018, 03:34 AM
I think of it as the best players winning. If China dominates they are the best.

I do think China should open up their Super League to allow more players from other countries to compete. Be like the NBA allowing top talent from other countries.

jamesmith
10-22-2018, 03:48 AM
They did before , I think it was because Japan said they will beat China and finish China's domination at Olympic and there were few inccident between China and Japan, China was worried they may lose at Olympic so they stop foreign players to play . I read something about it but I could be wrong

zeio
10-22-2018, 04:15 PM
When the cut-ins are more exciting to watch than the match.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAHoXX-Ul2Y

usualsuspect
10-22-2018, 04:46 PM
The US dominates basketball and yet most younger Chinese overwhelmingly prefers watching the NBA over table tennis.
I'm not trying to argue with you, just to prove a point. Just because one country dominates a sport, does not make it boring to watch.

Case in point, FZD, Xu Xin, Ma Long, Wang Hao, Ma Lin are all Chinese players, but each has very unique style. I enjoy watching them all. I don't let the fact that they are all Chinese get in the way of me enjoying the sport.

Lightzy
10-22-2018, 05:12 PM
Everyone seemed to be slipping on the flooring there several times a match..

Except for FZD of course, he was floating over it.

langel
10-22-2018, 05:25 PM
Everyone seemed to be slipping on the flooring there several times a match..

Except for FZD of course, he was floating over it.

Its a problem of the shoes, not the flooring.
Use the most ordinary textile chnese sneakers and you'll never slip and scratch.

usualsuspect
10-22-2018, 05:29 PM
Is it just me or is FZD tactically more like Ma Long now?
During the match with Lin Gaoyuan, it was really obvious that FZD had trouble in the first two games.
But from the third game on, FZD found LGY's weakness. He basically served short to LGY's middle and FH side. LGY had no real answer to that and lost the match quickly after.
This is something that Ma Long and Timo Boll do exceptionally well--identifying an opponent's weakness and ruthlessly exploiting it.
I'm really surprised to see FZD employing the tactic so effectively when he's still so young. Kudos to FZD on the victory and his growth. I wonder how much better he will get.

Atas Newton
10-22-2018, 07:27 PM
The number of times Fan Zhendong served long at World Cup 2018: 0.
Nope, still the good old stubborn Fan Zhendong.

usualsuspect
10-22-2018, 09:06 PM
The number of times Fan Zhendong served long at World Cup 2018: 0.
Nope, still the good old stubborn Fan Zhendong.

Agreed, though there were quite a few half long serves against Boll, which were brilliant. Boll had some trouble returning quality attacks or good short returns on those serves. FZD is smart enough to not serve long against LGY though. Dima tested the water with LGY with fast long serves late game... Let's just say that the result was less than satisfactory for Dima.

Lightzy
10-22-2018, 09:35 PM
Its a problem of the shoes, not the flooring.
Use the most ordinary textile chnese sneakers and you'll never slip and scratch.

I don't think so. Look at the games there, in almost every game you have people slipping and even falling sometimes.
There was definitely something off with their flooring. I've never seen anything like that in tournaments before outside of like, a local school-gym tournament.

Loopadoop
10-22-2018, 09:44 PM
I don't think so. Look at the games there, in almost every game you have people slipping and even falling sometimes.
There was definitely something off with their flooring. I've never seen anything like that in tournaments before outside of like, a local school-gym tournament.

All the players wear a shoe made for TT. My experience, slipping doesn't happen unless there is a problem with the floor, usually means a little dust, could have got on the shoes from the walk to the court, need to wipe the shoes before playing with a wet rag.