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Turdytree
11-05-2018, 12:11 AM
I currently have Ma lin Extra Offensive with Rakza X max and Mark V max.
Im looking for a comparable set up that is lighter because right now my back and rear delts get fatigued too easily.

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Lightzy
11-05-2018, 01:18 AM
Light rubber = soft sponge. You're used to harder sponge. So it won't play the same at all. The difference will probably be a lot bigger than 'just lighter and possibly faster'.
Also Rakza X is very fast. You want faster?


Some light rubbers I adore are AK47 series (the softer, the lighter, usually) which come at like $10 a pop. Not as fast or grippy as Rakza X, you need to really learn how to use the sponge rather than just the topsheet to get the full effect, but it's a grand full effect.
An AK47 rubber cut to the blade can weigh like 38 grams, which is insane. But there's some variation in weight since the sponge hardness have a certain random range. For example, AK47 Yellow can be from 42 to 44 hardness.
I experimented until I find a setup I really like, which is Liu Shiwen ZLF with AK47s, weighing a total of 160 grams despite the LSW having an oversized head. I think that is easily 30 grams (or more) lower than most 'regular' setups.


Some good ones are the new omega euros which have a grippier topsheet but cost more like $60 a pop or something
And there's everything in between.
Maybe older omegas, like omega 4s? Or Rakza soft? Though I dunno how much those weigh.

yogi_bear
11-05-2018, 02:50 AM
Mxp and vega asia df. If you can find a light yeo blade that would be better

slevin
11-05-2018, 03:43 AM
I currently have Ma lin Extra Offensive with Rakza X max and Mark V max.
Im looking for a comparable set up that is lighter because right now my back and rear delts get fatigued too easily.

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RX is low throw, 50 deg rubber. So, the lightest low throw 50 deg rubber you can go for is the Donic Acuda Blue P1. If you don't mind going down to 45 deg, I recommend Donic Acuda Blue P2 (which is also low throw and works well with the plastic ball). I'd say that a max sheet cut to standard 157x150 thickness weighs around 43.5gms (as opposed to 51g for the RX).

James Livesey
11-05-2018, 10:01 AM
Stiga intensity is a MEO clone that is lighter weight. It's quite expensive though. If you are a penhold, you can also cut the rubbers a bit shorter to reduce weight. But maybe rubber replacement is better suited.

thomas.pong
11-05-2018, 10:19 AM
I currently have Ma lin Extra Offensive with Rakza X max and Mark V max.
Im looking for a comparable set up that is lighter because right now my back and rear delts get fatigued too easily.

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How much does your whole setup weigh?
Have you also weighed your blade without the rubbers?
Are you using max thickness?

Lightzy
11-05-2018, 10:55 AM
Mxp and vega asia df. If you can find a light yeo blade that would be better

MXP is probably the heaviest euro rubber that exists. Excepting maybe the MXS, though I'm not sure.

thomas.pong
11-05-2018, 11:35 AM
MXP is probably the heaviest euro rubber that exists. Excepting maybe the MXS, though I'm not sure.

Indeed.

langel
11-05-2018, 12:28 PM
Vega Asia DF is light, 2 mm is about 40 gr. cut. Omega 7 Pro is light too - about 45 gr. cut.
A 82 gr. Rossi Emotion blade fells like a 70 gr. one in the hand because of its longer handle and weight distribution.
Rossi Emotion 82 gr. + Vega Asia DF 2mm would weigh about 164 gr. with thin but strong glue like Xiom iBond and feel like 150 gr.

Turdytree
11-05-2018, 12:43 PM
[emoji23] I tried stratus power wood with max MXS ans MXP and it felt lighter. I suspect the assembler used too much glue.

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brokenball
11-05-2018, 12:48 PM
Why is the solution always hardware?
I think turdytree needs to spend more time in the gym.
If he thinks it is hard now it will only get harder in the future as he gets older.

russell
11-05-2018, 01:16 PM
MXP is probably the heaviest euro rubber that exists. Excepting maybe the MXS, though I'm not sure.It certainly is heavy. I bought a piece to try a couple of months ago. I took it off after one session as it was far too heavy for me compared to my TSP Ventus Soft! It's definitely the heaviest rubber I've ever tried.