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TableOhTennis
12-28-2011, 08:10 AM
Here are the latest results of the Guoping's winter training in Xiamen.


https://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/images/cntwinter.jpg

1. Ma Long
2. Zhang Jike
3. Xu Xin
4. Wang Hao
5. Ma Lin
6. Wang Liqin
7. Fang Bo
8. Zhou Yu
9. Shang Kun
10. Zhang Chao
11. Yan An
12. Chen Qi
13. Qiu Yike
14. Hao Shuai
15. Lin Gao Yuan
16. Wu Hao
17. Zhang Yu
18. Zhang Bing

I only have the Zhang Jike and Ma Long summary

Zhang Jike - Xu Xin 8:11
Zhang Jike - Fang Bo 6:11
Zhang Jike - Shang Kun 11:8
Zhang Jike - Yan An 7:11
Zhang Jike - Qiu Yike 11:6
Zhang Jike - Lin Gaoyuan 11:13
Zhang Jike - Zhang Yu 11:7

Ma Long
Ma Long - Wang Hao 11:8 *
Ma Long - Yan An 10:12
Ma Long - Qiu Yike 11:8
Ma Long - Hao Shuai 11:3
Ma Long - Lin Gao Yuan 11:4
Ma Long - Wu Hao 11:8
Ma Long - Zhang Yu 11:8
Ma Long - Zhang Bing 11:2

Red text means a lose. *i dunno, it applies for Zhang Jike.. I'm really not sure. Sorry.
I just figured out how to read the table haha! So, if you're confused with the table, you read it like this.

Ma Long's results are in the first column, Zhang Jike in the second, and so on.
The scores are in the cells and the name on the left aligned with it is the opponent.

I'll try to edit this post and I'll do the summaries of the other players. But so far, this is only the latest results I got.
News today is that Ma Lin defeated Zhang Jike. I didn't see the article yet but I guess it's most likely to be true.


*I was surprised Xu Hui was not in the list. They say he's not a part of the Guoping already. I don't know what happened? He was just with LGL and Ma Lin in Sweden. :confused:



A short video from the training matches

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm-ONdgKuJU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

WiWa
12-28-2011, 08:20 AM
Lol, Zhang Jike might wanna stop doing ads :P Nice find, thanks for sharing :)

Ash
12-28-2011, 11:18 AM
I think important part of the losses usually is , that they work on technical aspects of their game, replicating what they would do in actual matches. So Zhang Jike may be working on areas of his game which he thinks are weak( eg- backhand loop away from table- usually he may block these back, but in practice match situation, he may hit it every single time)

Lan
12-29-2011, 12:54 PM
tabletennista says ma long won overwang hao whereas this table shows the oppisite.

RIPPER
12-29-2011, 01:48 PM
Interesting how ma long beats 3 of his team mates by 3 and 4, even at hao shuai's level he still got slaughtered in that set, I guess that happens though every now and again. Makes you wonder how other lesser players would do against ma long though!

cmetsbeltran15
12-29-2011, 02:23 PM
Are those players the only 18? Do the matches matter much? Because I notice alot of upsets, and the fact that it's a single game makes me get the feeling theres not much to be played for here

YosuaYosan
12-29-2011, 06:39 PM
Hmm what a tight level INside the team.
Outside the team they always kick ass lol

Bollforte94
12-29-2011, 07:10 PM
tabletennista says ma long won overwang hao whereas this table shows the oppisite.

no Ma Long won 11:8
black text = win
red text = loose

Ma Long won against 4 and 11 and lost against 13,14,15,16,17 and 18. => 2:6
That's bad.

WiWa
12-29-2011, 07:15 PM
no Ma Long won 11:8
black text = win
red text = loose

Ma Long won against 4 and 11 and lost against 13,14,15,16,17 and 18. => 2:6
That's bad.

I don't think the colors mean anything. I doubt Ma Long would lose 11-2, 11-3 and 11-4 from those players or any player.

Bollforte94
12-29-2011, 07:57 PM
I don't think the colors mean anything. I doubt Ma Long would lose 11-2, 11-3 and 11-4 from those players or any player.

ToT wrote that red text = loose and this is right!
Zhang Jike lost against Lin Gaoyuan = red text Wang Hao lost against Ma Long = red text
Lin Gaoyuan won against Zhang = black text ........
This fits to tabletennissta!
Tabletennissta reported that Ma Long often loose against young players. Thats why he had to play against Yan An in the Evil or devil training before WTTC ;)

cmetsbeltran15
12-29-2011, 08:59 PM
the colors probably don't mean anything. any answer to my question above?



Are those players the only 18? Do the matches matter much? Because I notice alot of upsets, and the fact that it's a single game makes me get the feeling theres not much to be played for here

Bollforte94
12-29-2011, 09:29 PM
the colors probably don't mean anything. any answer to my question above?

Are you kidding me? You are kidding, right?

cmetsbeltran15
12-29-2011, 10:16 PM
Are you kidding me? You are kidding, right?
If you read earlier in the thread, someone implied the red means a loss, when it clearly means a win? Sorry sir, you seemed quite upset there

Bollforte94
12-29-2011, 10:37 PM
So it is the other way round?
I dont see the forest for the trees.

cmetsbeltran15
12-29-2011, 10:45 PM
So it is the other way round?
I dont see the forest for the trees.

I don't even know what you're saying at this point, if you read earlier on in the thread you'd see how it makes sense

Mr. RicharD
12-29-2011, 11:10 PM
Um am I missing something? Where are these results posted at? I feel pretty stupid atm.

cmetsbeltran15
12-29-2011, 11:20 PM
the picture of the results got replaced with a picture of zhang jike

rinrinrin1983
12-30-2011, 12:04 AM
Ma Long's results

Ma Long - Wang Hao 8:11
Ma Long - Yan An 10:12
Ma Long - Qiu Yike 11:8
Ma Long - Hao Shuai 11:3
Ma Long - Lin Gao Yuan 11:4
Ma Long - Wu Hao 11:8
Ma Long - Zhang Yu 11:8
Ma Long - Zhang Bing 11:2

Dan
12-30-2011, 12:07 AM
the picture of the results got replaced with a picture of zhang jike

Hey :)

I have replaced the picture with Zhang Jike as the previous picture was not loading. I couldn't find where ToT got it from. I need ToT to re-upload the picture when he comes back online.

Sorry for inconvenience cmetsbeltran15

cmetsbeltran15
12-30-2011, 01:40 AM
Hey :)

I have replaced the picture with Zhang Jike as the previous picture was not loading. I couldn't find where ToT got it from. I need ToT to re-upload the picture when he comes back online.

Sorry for inconvenience cmetsbeltran15

No problem at all Dan, these training games aren't too important to me, was just explaining to the other guy why he could not see any results. :cool:

TableOhTennis
12-30-2011, 04:16 AM
Are those players the only 18? Do the matches matter much? Because I notice alot of upsets, and the fact that it's a single game makes me get the feeling theres not much to be played for here

yup. only 18. In this kind of training they focus on the first set only. In a recent tabletennista article, Liu Guoliang explained the importance of the first set

TableOhTennis
12-30-2011, 04:16 AM
TRAINING IN XIAMEN VIDEO!!!

Finally! This is what we've all been waiting for!!

Jump around 16:00 (or before 16min)

http://sports.cntv.cn/20111228/122413.shtml

wilfred888
12-30-2011, 07:18 AM
The video doesn't load for me :(

WiWa
12-30-2011, 07:59 AM
The video doesn't load for me :(

Didn't load for me the first time either. Just refresh the page, don't let google translate it :P (don't know if this makes a difference). And make sure you don't have any download going on, since it needs to buffer maybe.

Dan
12-30-2011, 11:33 AM
Here you are everyone. A video from CNTV. If anyone can translate that would be much appreciated :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm-ONdgKuJU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

TableOhTennis
12-30-2011, 12:00 PM
Hey :)

I have replaced the picture with Zhang Jike as the previous picture was not loading. I couldn't find where ToT got it from. I need ToT to re-upload the picture when he comes back online.

Sorry for inconvenience cmetsbeltran15

Hey Dan, thanks for editing the post and uploading the video. I'm really sorry, I was out the whole day and I just got back. Anyway, I reuploaded the photo already..

TableOhTennis
12-30-2011, 12:07 PM
Guys, I'm really sorry for the inconvenience. I've been out all day and I just got back.
The video is in the full version of the sports news so it's half an hour long and there's only a short clip of the players. Luckily, Dan uploaded the clip. So yeah, thanks a lot Dan. :D

The photo of the results are attached already. So far, I haven't seen any latest results but I'll update you guys tomorrow :)

cmetsbeltran15
12-30-2011, 12:59 PM
thanks ToT, didn't realize lin GY was promoted to the A team

Bollforte94
12-30-2011, 01:36 PM
Ma Long's results

Ma Long - Wang Hao 8:11
Ma Long - Yan An 10:12
Ma Long - Qiu Yike 11:8
Ma Long - Hao Shuai 11:3
Ma Long - Lin Gao Yuan 11:4
Ma Long - Wu Hao 11:8
Ma Long - Zhang Yu 11:8
Ma Long - Zhang Bing 11:2

TableTennisTa said that Ma Long won against Wang Hao!
http://tabletennista.com/2011/12/wang-hao-lost-to-ma-long-in-the-winter-tra/

I still believe that I am right!:D

tremil
12-30-2011, 04:15 PM
Xu hui live in Sweden during winter season, playing for the Swedish club Eslöv

Dan
12-30-2011, 05:33 PM
Xu hui live in Sweden during winter season, playing for the Swedish club Eslöv

Yeah thats true he does play in Sweden. My friend Gavin Rumgay beat him out there. Matches are only best of 3 aren't they?


Guys, I'm really sorry for the inconvenience. I've been out all day and I just got back.
The video is in the full version of the sports news so it's half an hour long and there's only a short clip of the players. Luckily, Dan uploaded the clip. So yeah, thanks a lot Dan. :D

The photo of the results are attached already. So far, I haven't seen any latest results but I'll update you guys tomorrow :)

Hey no worries ToT. All updated now :). I attached the results to the TTD server so the results display bigger and there should be no issues from now on :). Please let me know of any new clips. Glad you like it.

Mr. RicharD
12-30-2011, 07:40 PM
This thread makes so much more sense now.

yurybarquero
12-30-2011, 11:37 PM
TRAINING IN XIAMEN VIDEO!!!

Finally! This is what we've all been waiting for!!

Jump around 16:00 (or before 16min)

http://sports.cntv.cn/20111228/122413.shtml

I have not been able to play this video... I tried to do it in google chrome and in mozilla firefox but nothing worked....
Could someone download it to his computer and then upload it to either 4shared or megaupload so that the ones that are not able to see it can download it...

cmetsbeltran15
12-31-2011, 01:08 AM
I have not been able to play this video... I tried to do it in google chrome and in mozilla firefox but nothing worked....
Could someone download it to his computer and then upload it to either 4shared or megaupload so that the ones that are not able to see it can download it...

the youtube link is posted above

TableOhTennis
12-31-2011, 02:46 AM
Ma Long's results

Ma Long - Wang Hao 8:11
Ma Long - Yan An 10:12
Ma Long - Qiu Yike 11:8
Ma Long - Hao Shuai 11:3
Ma Long - Lin Gao Yuan 11:4
Ma Long - Wu Hao 11:8
Ma Long - Zhang Yu 11:8
Ma Long - Zhang Bing 11:2

thanks for this! I'll include this!

TableOhTennis
12-31-2011, 02:49 AM
Xu hui live in Sweden during winter season, playing for the Swedish club Eslöv
Really? I didn't know that! That's why he wasn't there! Oh thanks for the info!

TableOhTennis
12-31-2011, 02:51 AM
thanks ToT, didn't realize lin GY was promoted to the A team

yup. I was also surprised to see him there and beat Zhang Jike.. I'm not sure though if this really means he's in the first tier already.. :D

yurybarquero
12-31-2011, 02:57 AM
the youtube link is posted above
Thank I thought that it was just a clip from the full version which I was expecting all of it to be about table tennis....

I did not read well this

The video is in the full version of the sports news so it's half an hour long and there's only a short clip of the players. Luckily, Dan uploaded the clip. So yeah, thanks a lot Dan. :D

I basically read ¨full version and half an hour¨ and I started to try to watch it... LOL

TableOhTennis
12-31-2011, 04:27 AM
I basically read ¨full version and half an hour¨ and I started to try to watch it... LOL

full version including all other sports news hehe

tremil
12-31-2011, 01:20 PM
Yes, we did play best of three matches for two years, because of tv-demands. Now we are playing best of five, championsleuge system. Xu hui has not lost a match yet, but I might play him next round, hopefully it will be his first loss then :)

Dan
12-31-2011, 01:22 PM
Yes, we did play best of three matches for two years, because of tv-demands. Now we are playing best of five, championsleuge system. Xu hui has not lost a match yet, but I might play him next round, hopefully it will be his first loss then :)

Awesome! Yeah he is class. Here is Gavin Rumgay playing Xu Hui here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4F2U7Nnr4M

Wow you must be a good player tremil, your in the first team?

tremil
12-31-2011, 03:01 PM
Unfortunately I am only sitting on the bench so far, but if anyone in my team gets injured, I am first backup ;)

Awsome match by rumgay, a fantastic achievement!

Dan
12-31-2011, 04:27 PM
Unfortunately I am only sitting on the bench so far, but if anyone in my team gets injured, I am first backup ;)

Awsome match by rumgay, a fantastic achievement!

Aha awesome least your in the team. I'm sure you will get in the first team soon with lots of hard practice. Let me know how your season goes :). Good luck Tremil!

Yeah Rumgay played great! Pretty impressive :)

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cmetsbeltran15
01-11-2012, 03:26 PM
i believe this ended today

Dan
01-11-2012, 04:45 PM
i believe this ended today

I'm not 100% sure, can someone confirm this? The training looked very tough! The players will be ready for the Hungarian Open 2012 i'm sure :)

cmetsbeltran15
01-11-2012, 05:11 PM
I'm not 100% sure, can someone confirm this? The training looked very tough! The players will be ready for the Hungarian Open 2012 i'm sure :)

both say "returning to beijing tomorrow" (posted yesterday) however, me and ToT reached the conclusion juniors ended today and the rest of the team ends on the 14th. both in this pic are juniors.

http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/966/return.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/859/return.png/)

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Dan
01-11-2012, 06:59 PM
both say "returning to beijing tomorrow" (posted yesterday) however, me and ToT reached the conclusion juniors ended today and the rest of the team ends on the 14th. both in this pic are juniors.

http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/966/return.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/859/return.png/)

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Thanks for the update great work!

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TableOhTennis
01-12-2012, 03:31 AM
both say "returning to beijing tomorrow" (posted yesterday) however, me and ToT reached the conclusion juniors ended today and the rest of the team ends on the 14th. both in this pic are juniors.

http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/966/return.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/859/return.png/)

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you're right, it all ends today. I saw xuxin's post in baidu he said he's on the plane now. They're all going back to beijing and will prepare for the Hungarian Open.

is that Renren? :)

TableOhTennis
01-12-2012, 03:39 AM
forgot about this thread. i should've posted the photos of the training here.. haha

cmetsbeltran15
01-12-2012, 04:24 AM
you're right, it all ends today. I saw xuxin's post in baidu he said he's on the plane now. They're all going back to beijing and will prepare for the Hungarian Open.

is that Renren? :)

ah cool, only a select few are going to the hungarian open i guess D:

yup its renren

cmetsbeltran15
01-14-2012, 04:19 PM
back in Beijing


1647

XIII
12-13-2012, 12:06 AM
back in Beijing


1647
There's actually that much players in the Table Tennis team?

Oft!, I can't believe I missed that I live near Xiamen in China and I was actually there.

T!Christian
12-13-2012, 12:41 PM
back in Beijing


1647

What a team :D

vipt2000
12-14-2012, 03:33 AM
What I get from the youtube video commentary is that they are trying to get each player to be mentally prepared on how important every single set is.

Also this chart is pretty clear, each row is the record of each player, thus the name being at the left. In each score, the 1st number is the player's score, and the 2nd number if the opponent's score, which makes red colour the winning set. Also the commentary mentioned that ZJK only won 3 outta 1st 7 games.

T!Christian
12-14-2012, 02:38 PM
It makes sense, doesnt it? Zhang Jike often loses the first set in a match and then overpowers his opponent!

XIII
12-16-2012, 09:43 AM
It makes sense, doesnt it? Zhang Jike often loses the first set in a match and then overpowers his opponent!
That sounds like Xu Xin back in the day.
He used to win 4-1 most of the time against any Chinese player.

RIPPER
12-21-2012, 07:12 AM
Thanks for the update great work!

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By the way dan nice banner you've got going on ur site dude

Dan
12-21-2012, 09:13 AM
By the way dan nice banner you've got going on ur site dude

Much appreciated dude :) Looks real nice :)

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T!Christian
12-21-2012, 11:25 AM
That sounds like Xu Xin back in the day.
He used to win 4-1 most of the time against any Chinese player.


Back in the day? ^^
Didn't know he is that old lol :D