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Moberg21
03-07-2019, 07:44 PM
I'm looking for an alternative to Viscaria/TB Alc. My price range is around 100$ or cheaper

and also, is Victas firefall AC a good alternative?

Jimbob MacInbred
03-07-2019, 08:06 PM
I'm looking for an alternative to Viscaria/TB Alc. My price range is around 100$ or cheaper

and also, is Victas firefall AC a good alternative?

Firefall series is Innerforce-type...so a little different constructionwise compared to Viscaria/TB ALC
Alternatives might be either Yinhe V-14 or Gewo Force Arc.

shinshiro
03-07-2019, 08:14 PM
From what I've read, Donic Ovtchariv True Carbon is probably the closest alternative you can get to a Viscaria.

yoass
03-07-2019, 08:22 PM
I'm looking for an alternative to Viscaria/TB Alc. My price range is around 100$ or cheaper

and also, is Victas firefall AC a good alternative?

Well, I have an Andro Treiber K (FL) blade lying around gathering dust. It has the very same composition, and I chose it because for me it felt the best in that class. Handle comfort, balance, control.

I stepped down a notch when I realized that age kicking in also means development changes. New limits impose themselves.

Anyway, it’s available to a player that is up for mastering it.

Dr Evil
03-07-2019, 08:25 PM
From what I've read, Donic Ovtchariv True Carbon is probably the closest alternative you can get to a Viscaria.
It's the closest non-Butterfly blade in my experience. Compared to Viscaria, the True Carbon I tried had a smaller flared handle and felt very slightly harder and faster. But other than the handle really difficult to tell the difference. Excellent blade.

yuri.saldon
03-07-2019, 08:25 PM
Something like yinhe v14 pro would be a good alternative too but i think true carbon is closer to viscaria.

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Lula
03-07-2019, 08:55 PM
Timo Boll Spirit i think is basically the same blade as timo boll ALC. I think you can get it cheaper than the ALC. but not sure. Look it up!

Magic_M
03-07-2019, 09:51 PM
Andro Treiber K, Donic Ovtcharov True Carbon (similar ST handle like ZJK ALC) and Geworden Force Arc (a little bit slower and more control) are good alternatives to Butterfly Boll Spirit, Boll ALC, ZJK ALC or Viscaria.

Konrad Bak
03-07-2019, 09:55 PM
Okay.
Treiber k is Ok blade
Powerspin drinkhall is awesome
But u will still like more Viscaria than both
I found that ALC is wavy and plays beautiful with harder rubber
This Blue kevlar is stiff... has more vibration, bad vibration, the material is softer than alc but when you match the same rubbers you will feel more hardness (wtf)
If you have 100€ i really Love my victas AFC blade. Limba + wannabe zylon + limba + Blue kevlar + koto
I found this blade has perfect balance and beautiful grip with harder rubbers. And its slower than Visc/K/drink.

vik2000
03-07-2019, 10:06 PM
Sanwei F3 pro. It's a solid TB ALC clone.

Konrad Bak
03-07-2019, 10:15 PM
And i really like gewo force arc with 2 acuda s1 plays very well

yogi_bear
03-07-2019, 11:32 PM
Yinhe T8s or Sanwei F3 Pro (ayous outer)

BeTWO
03-08-2019, 02:58 AM
DHS Hurricane fang bo carbon

M.Hoang
03-08-2019, 05:29 AM
i have tried all yinhe v14 pro (limited edition) and viscaria on a training day. those have the same handle, the different is very small. I see the thickness off yinhe pro is a more bit than viscaria - because of the core. and try them, i see yinhe is a bit harder, bounce more than viscaria. timoboll alc has the smaller handle....

Jimbob MacInbred
03-08-2019, 05:45 AM
If you have 100€ i really Love my victas AFC blade. Limba + wannabe zylon + limba + Blue kevlar + koto



That "wannabe zylon" is actually Fleece-Carbon. Fleece and Zylon are very different from each other; Zylon being harder and more responsive than Fleece (Fleece is more like a "control" composite). The Victas AFC also uses Aramid and not Kevlar, although both are similar in their properties (Kevlar and Arylate (for example) are subgroups of Aramid). Koto as a core ply? Ahemm, no...

langel
03-08-2019, 07:01 AM
Maybe its not very important to know, but just to clarify:

Arylate and Aramid are different compounds in the Aromatic Polymers group.
Arylate is not a subgroup of Aramid. Kevlar is the DuPont trademark name of Aramid.

Konrad Bak
03-08-2019, 07:32 AM
Alc is woven of kevlar and graphite
This is the biggest difference

shat1478
03-08-2019, 08:17 AM
Yinhe V14 similar Viscaria / Timo Boll Spirit

Butt V14 pro too stiff , feel hard , more speed . I like V14 more than V14pro.

langel
03-08-2019, 09:37 AM
Alc is woven of kevlar and graphite
This is the biggest difference

No, Arylate Carbon is not Kevlar and Graphite.
Aramid Carbon can be Kevlar, or any other trafe mark name of a particular aramid fibers producer, and Graphite.
Some brands use the trade mark name of the compound, some don't.

Konrad Bak
03-08-2019, 01:32 PM
vectran aka arylate and kevlar is from the same group LLC.

yogi_bear
03-09-2019, 10:50 AM
Tmount T540 is also agood alternative

yogi_bear
03-09-2019, 10:55 AM
Tmount T540 is also agood alternative

Moberg21
03-09-2019, 05:21 PM
Tmount T540 is also agood alternative
Where can I buy T540 and F3 Pro?

danisius
03-09-2019, 08:45 PM
A friend of my after tried my FireFall AC claimed that feels identicall to Timo Boll ALC

yogi_bear
03-09-2019, 09:00 PM
Email this guy for tmount david@ttmount.com