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actuar90
04-09-2019, 12:43 PM
Its been a few years since I've trained seriously and trying to get back to it now. Our club still uses celluloid balls so I need to get my own plastic ones for training and multiball.
Looking to get 60-100 for starters, probably 2* or more as will use them for training/practice matches as well as multiball. Looks like D40 is the most popular, although I've seen many negative comments about them too?

Looking them up on aliexpress there seem to be D40 and D40+, whats the difference, both seem to be plastic? Are there any other good alternatives around the same price/quality ratio?

Also, any recommended stores to buy from to ensure good quality?

actuar90
04-09-2019, 01:05 PM
For example, $0.50 per 3* D40+ from New-new shop:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Newest-DHS-3-Star-1-star-D40-Table-Tennis-Balls-New-Material-Plastic-Poly-Ping-Pong/32936407816.html?spm=2114.search0103.3.95.45e1125bX0CBqY&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_9_10065_10130_10068_10547_319_317_10548_10696_10192_10190_453_10084_454_10083_10618_10307_10820_10301_10821_10303_537_536_10059_10884_10887_321_322_10103,searchweb201603_56,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=0a1e153e-148e-4e6c-a537-1fe72185d988-12&algo_pvid=0a1e153e-148e-4e6c-a537-1fe72185d988&transAbTest=ae803_3
Or similar price from chinese ping pong shop:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Bonus-Pack-10-Balls-Box-Newest-DHS-3-Star-D40-Table-Tennis-Balls-New-Material-Plastic/32802682381.html?spm=2114.search0103.3.25.45e1125bX0CBqY&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_9_10065_10130_10068_10547_319_317_10548_10696_10192_10190_453_10084_454_10083_10618_10307_10820_10301_10821_10303_537_536_10059_10884_10887_321_322_10103,searchweb201603_56,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=0a1e153e-148e-4e6c-a537-1fe72185d988-3&algo_pvid=0a1e153e-148e-4e6c-a537-1fe72185d988&transAbTest=ae803_3

yoass
04-09-2019, 01:26 PM
DHS D40 (Ma Long pictured box) is widely seen as a horrible ball.

Many people have shared very positive experiences with the D40+ (Ding Ning pictured box). My experiences are poor, but seem to be an outlier. I won't buy them again (once bitten, twice shy) but many do and are happy with them, apparently.

As match balls go, I've become smitten with the Stiga Perform 40+ threestar ball. Best thing I've played; it replaced the XSF seamless threestar ball, which I also consider to be excellent but is more expensive and tends to be a bit more fragile.

For trainingsball, hard not to like the Kinson K-40+ onestar. Consistent quality, good bounce, decent spin; better than most threestars, and nearly as good as the better ones and affordably priced; excellent value for money. I know of no twostar balls better than this one.

Loopadoop
04-09-2019, 03:02 PM
DHS 40 is celluloid and a good ball

DHS D40+ is plastic abs

chikuy
04-09-2019, 03:10 PM
you can buy your own thing in www.tabletennis11.com they have really good balls ( all kind ) withthe best prices in market

Loopadoop
04-09-2019, 03:25 PM
Here is your best price DHS 40 celluloid ball 3 star - 50 cents each free shipping

https://www.ebay.com/p/1-Boxes-6-Pcs-3-Stars-DHS-40-Mm-Olympic-Table-Tennis-White-Ping-Pong-Balls/1463714707

Loopadoop
04-09-2019, 10:17 PM
Better Price

DHS 40 celluloid ball 3 star - 35 cents each free shipping

https://www.ebay.com/p/20-Boxes-120-Pcs-3-Stars-DHS-40-Mm-Olympic-Table-Tennis-White-Ping-Pong-Balls/1574879567

kevinjames
04-09-2019, 11:15 PM
I would not recommend DHS 40+ balls as the quality is way off. 30% of the balls would be of weird oblong shapes. You can try Sanwei 3w 2 star balls, costs about $24/100 but are definitely of superior quality.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100-balls-SANWEI-table-tennis-ball-3w-2-star-40-ABS-pro-plastic-seamed-new-material/32963402803.html

I primarily use them on my robot and they do way better than the other cheap training balls I have tried (DHS, Doublefish etc.)


(https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100pcs-set-New-Double-Fish-V40-1-Stars-40mm-White-Table-Tennis-Balls-ABS-Plastic-Seamed/32970297862.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.25.291f55a1Bo9Kv8&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_9_10065_10068_319_10059_10884_317_10887_10696_321_322_10084_453_10083_454_10103_10618_10307_537_536,searchweb201603_6,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=8e1e5d99-3fd5-4048-a188-f761849ebb8b-3&algo_pvid=8e1e5d99-3fd5-4048-a188-f761849ebb8b)

actuar90
04-10-2019, 08:55 AM
DHS 40 celluloid ball 3 star - 35 cents each free shipping

https://www.ebay.com/p/20-Boxes-120-Pcs-3-Stars-DHS-40-Mm-Olympic-Table-Tennis-White-Ping-Pong-Balls/1574879567

Sorry, should have been clearer - the balls provided in the club are celluloid so I am looking for plastic balls for my own training

actuar90
04-10-2019, 08:59 AM
I would not recommend DHS 40+ balls as the quality is way off. 30% of the balls would be of weird oblong shapes. You can try Sanwei 3w 2 star balls, costs about $24/100 but are definitely of superior quality.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100-balls-SANWEI-table-tennis-ball-3w-2-star-40-ABS-pro-plastic-seamed-new-material/32963402803.html

I primarily use them on my robot and they do way better than the other cheap training balls I have tried (DHS, Doublefish etc.)


(https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100pcs-set-New-Double-Fish-V40-1-Stars-40mm-White-Table-Tennis-Balls-ABS-Plastic-Seamed/32970297862.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.25.291f55a1Bo9Kv8&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_9_10065_10068_319_10059_10884_317_10887_10696_321_322_10084_453_10083_454_10103_10618_10307_537_536,searchweb201603_6,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=8e1e5d99-3fd5-4048-a188-f761849ebb8b-3&algo_pvid=8e1e5d99-3fd5-4048-a188-f761849ebb8b)
Are you comparing to D40+ 1* or 3*?

I haven't played with the Sanwei so will check it out, and they are cheap!
If I was getting the D40+ I would probably just get 3* as they are not much more expensive than 1*, I would have assumed the quality of 3* would be much better?

actuar90
04-10-2019, 01:41 PM
I also see the Sanwei 3 star balls recommended on another thread, anyone have experience of these?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Wholesales-link-60-Balls-SANWEI-Gold-3-Star-Plastic-40-Table-Tennis-Ball-ITTF-Approved-New/32810093337.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.25.74a37b13WZB1dE&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_9_10065_10130_10068_10547_319_317_10696_10190_453_10084_454_10083_10618_10307_10820_10821_10303_537_10302_536_10059_10884_10887_321_322_10103,searchweb201603_56,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=b0b891a9-91c0-4dec-9883-75a15cd13e9b-3&algo_pvid=b0b891a9-91c0-4dec-9883-75a15cd13e9b&transAbTest=ae803_3

chikuy
04-10-2019, 01:46 PM
well i can only recommend Tibhar 3star balls ( plastic ) VERY VERY GOOD BALL! excellent quality

killiegradge
04-10-2019, 05:09 PM
Sorry, should have been clearer - the balls provided in the club are celluloid so I am looking for plastic balls for my own training
Why would any club continue to use celluloid balls?Surely you should at very least persuade them to use modern plastic balls? If anyone from the club plays competitive table tennis then surely they use plastic 40+ balls.

actuar90
04-10-2019, 05:15 PM
Yes, it's incredible that they still insist on using the old balls. It's a big club that even hosts many competitions and has many players who compete. It's purely to keep running costs down

killiegradge
04-10-2019, 05:25 PM
Yes, it's incredible that they still insist on using the old balls. It's a big club that even hosts many competitions and has many players who compete. It's purely to keep running costs down
That's a shame they dont want to move with the times. I've been stockpiling the new plastic balls prior to Brexit just in case there is a shortage.

DukeGaGa
04-10-2019, 06:16 PM
I recommend Sanwei balls as well, bought 500 of them to use at home, very nice quality (build quality and roundness), I'd say it's on par with some of the ittf approved 3 star balls. I've also heard that the reason it's not ittf approved is only due to lowering the cost and a lot of the regional tournaments in China use them.

killiegradge
04-10-2019, 07:21 PM
I do love it on here when folks say things like "bought 500 of them to use at HOME" and tell us of the very expensive gear they buy when some clubs can't seem to afford 500 for the full club to use. What jobs do you guys have?And I assume you have a robot in the extension?

DukeGaGa
04-10-2019, 08:28 PM
I do love it on here when folks say things like "bought 500 of them to use at HOME" and tell us of the very expensive gear they buy when some clubs can't seem to afford 500 for the full club to use. What jobs do you guys have?And I assume you have a robot in the extension?

I don't go to clubs, I have a personal coach and play with friends at my company, on the days I don't have training I practice at home for fun and exercise. And why do you make it sound like 500 balls are very expensive? It's not, not even close to some high end blades out there. Also, do I smell a little jelly there? Hmm, tasty tasty jelly. :cool::rolleyes:

killiegradge
04-10-2019, 09:03 PM
I don't go to clubs, I have a personal coach and play with friends at my company, on the days I don't have training I practice at home for fun and exercise. And why do you make it sound like 500 balls are very expensive? It's not, not even close to some high end blades out there. Also, do I smell a little jelly there? Hmm, tasty tasty jelly. :cool::rolleyes:
With an attitude like that I am not surprised you don’t go to a club. I hope you continue to enjoy playing with yourself!

DukeGaGa
04-10-2019, 09:08 PM
With an attitude like that I am not surprised you don’t go to a club. I hope you continue to enjoy playing with yourself!

Yeah, exactly, I'm the one with an attitude. lol ;) I'm just happy I don't play with someone like you.

Anyway, getting back to the subject of training balls, while someone can keep being jelly, I've also tried two lesser known brands on amazon (​MAPOL and KEVENZ), horrible quality, breaks very easily and half the balls are not round. So, unless you are desperate, don't buy those.

JST
04-10-2019, 09:25 PM
We use DHS D40+ 3*** for 40USD per 72pcs (TTNPP) and I actually don't see any reason to use something different, regardless if it is ofr robot, multiball or club play. Yes, you might shave few cents here and there if you start to fish at Aliexpress with more or less exotic brands but after some experience it's not worth your time and money once you have such economic and proven way such as D40+... indeed just my opinion;)

killiegradge
04-10-2019, 09:25 PM
Yeah, exactly, I'm the one with an attitude. lol ;) I'm just happy I don't play with someone like you.

Anyway, getting back to the subject of training balls, while someone can keep being jelly, I've also tried two lesser known brands on amazon (​MAPOL and KEVENZ), horrible quality, breaks very easily and half the balls are not round. So, unless you are desperate, don't buy those.
just you continue to stay awesome big guy!

DukeGaGa
04-10-2019, 11:06 PM
just you continue to stay awesome big guy!

Thank you little man!


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Loopadoop
04-10-2019, 11:15 PM
We use DHS D40+ 3*** for 40USD per 72pcs (TTNPP) and I actually don't see any reason to use something different, regardless if it is ofr robot, multiball or club play. Yes, you might shave few cents here and there if you start to fish at Aliexpress with more or less exotic brands but after some experience it's not worth your time and money once you have such economic and proven way such as D40+... indeed just my opinion;)

That is the balls I use too, Ding Ning picture on box.

yogi_bear
04-11-2019, 01:32 AM
A but expensive but the Xiom 2 star balls are very good to use. Felt like 3 stars already.

chuckjordan2
04-11-2019, 02:19 AM
The Sanwei Pro 3* 40+ I feel are now better than DHS D40+

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32866150199.html?trace=wwwdetail2mobilesitedetail&productId=32866150199&productSubject=Wholesales-link-60-Balls-SANWEI-3-Star-ABS-40-PRO-Table-Tennis-Ball-ITTF-Approved-New&gps-id=storeRecommendH5&scm=1007.18500.102169.0&scm_id=1007.18500.102169.0&scm-url=1007.18500.102169.0&pvid=08d224d2-b272-456b-9897-debd170afb3c&_t=gps-id:storeRecommendH5,scm-url:1007.18500.102169.0,pvid:08d224d2-b272-456b-9897-debd170afb3c&spm=a2g0n.detail-amp.store-card.32866150199&aff_trace_key=&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=8248amp-PauW6hyyA1hb38AoX-RAag1554948781763

JST
04-11-2019, 05:28 AM
The Sanwei Pro 3* 40+ I feel are now better than DHS D40+

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32866150199.html?trace=wwwdetail2mobilesitedetail&productId=32866150199&productSubject=Wholesales-link-60-Balls-SANWEI-3-Star-ABS-40-PRO-Table-Tennis-Ball-ITTF-Approved-New&gps-id=storeRecommendH5&scm=1007.18500.102169.0&scm_id=1007.18500.102169.0&scm-url=1007.18500.102169.0&pvid=08d224d2-b272-456b-9897-debd170afb3c&_t=gps-id:storeRecommendH5,scm-url:1007.18500.102169.0,pvid:08d224d2-b272-456b-9897-debd170afb3c&spm=a2g0n.detail-amp.store-card.32866150199&aff_trace_key=&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=8248amp-PauW6hyyA1hb38AoX-RAag155494878176338$ per 60 vs. 40$ per 72? Sorry, my math is saying NO...

tzifos
04-11-2019, 05:49 AM
There are also these Double Fish 3* balls that you can get 10 balls for $5.2 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-10pcs-set-Double-Fish-V40-3-Stars-40mm-White-Table-Tennis-Balls-ABS-Plastic-Seamed/32899861914.html They are very good, I cannot distinguish them from DHS D40+ 3* (Ding Ning). Check them in aliexpress you might find them cheaper.

chuckjordan2
04-12-2019, 01:08 AM
38$ per 60 vs. 40$ per 72? Sorry, my math is saying NO...
So, before the DHS D40+ came out, what were you playing with? If you want to go cheap, go with 1* DHS D40+.

There has been slow and steady progression on these type of balls.

I think that the Sanwei Pro balls play just a little better.

JST
04-12-2019, 06:34 AM
So, before the DHS D40+ came out, what were you playing with?

Clones of 1st generation DHS plastic balls (labels "40+", "Cell free" or "dual") like Stiga Optimum, the most cracking balls I've ever seen. And expensive.


If you want to go cheap, go with 1* DHS D40+.
True, you can save ~10c on each ball vs. 3***. The question is if it is worth it because even the low level players notice small difference. Sometimes they can't say which is which or if one is really significantly "better" then other but in my view unless you really turn around more than a box (72~120pcs) a month you might simply stay with competition balls for everything and you don't need to care. Our club is perfectly fine with 150pcs of D40+ 3*** per year (6-months season with 2 home matches in teams league per week + 2x a week practicing all year long).


There has been slow and steady progression on these type of balls.
This depends on the point of view. In my world of 30+ years of more or less mature and unchanged celluloid ball production process these last 8 years are like big bang. Kingnik/Xushaofa with their seamless balls, Nittaku and Butterfly with several versions from their own factories, DHS with two generations of plastic materials, all of them very noticeably different in terms of look (surface), durability, sound, roundness... this is far from "slow and steady" in my view;)


I think that the Sanwei Pro balls play just a little better.
Are they? Because it's common consensus that there are only few actual factories and production lines able to make "ABS" plastic balls and so DHS is producing all these for various brands including Sanwei. They might differ in quality control but otherwise they should be basically the same. It would be strange if DHS makes much better balls for other brands than their own...

Lula
04-12-2019, 06:38 AM
Alot of plastic training balls are eggs. Atleast yasakas. Some balls today are almost not playable.

langel
04-12-2019, 03:29 PM
A but expensive but the Xiom 2 star balls are very good to use. Felt like 3 stars already.

Which Xiom 2** balls - Sensa ABS seamed, Bravo ABS seamed, or Tour training seamless?

symbat
04-12-2019, 09:12 PM
Yeah, exactly, I'm the one with an attitude. lol ;) I'm just happy I don't play with someone like you.

Anyway, getting back to the subject of training balls, while someone can keep being jelly, I've also tried two lesser known brands on amazon (​MAPOL and KEVENZ), horrible quality, breaks very easily and half the balls are not round. So, unless you are desperate, don't buy those.

Actually the Kevenz balls are great, but you have to get their 40+ ABS ball. I got 200 of them for $40 US and have used them with my robot for about 9 months. Only 1-2 had broken in all that time and I use the robot at least 5 hours per week. They are nice and polished now which is why they were retired. Compared to the Butterfly A40+ they bounce the same, are just a little bit heavier and a little bit more out of round.

The texture is rougher though. The texture is similar to the DoubleFish V40+ with the red lettering (the non WTC version)f

I purchased a bunch of DoubleFish V40+ balls from Aliexpress (.45 USD per ball) and the texture does not seem like it will last like the texture on the Kevenz ABS balls. I would love to know who makes these balls for Kevenz.

DukeGaGa
04-12-2019, 09:14 PM
Actually the Kevenz balls are great, but you have to get their 40+ ABS ball. I got 200 of them for $40 US and have used them with my robot for about 9 months. Only 1-2 had broken in all that time and I use the robot at least 5 hours per week. They are nice and polished now which is why they were retired. Compared to the Butterfly A40+ they bounce the same, are just a little bit heavier and a little bit more out of round.

The texture is rougher though. The texture is similar to the DoubleFish V40+ with the red lettering (the non WTC version)f

I purchased a bunch of DoubleFish V40+ balls from Aliexpress (.45 USD per ball) and the texture does not seem like it will last like the texture on the Kevenz ABS balls. I would love to know who makes these balls for Kevenz.

I have their abs 40+ ones, it is better than their 40 ones but still QC is really bad, about 50% isn’t round.


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yogi_bear
04-13-2019, 10:36 AM
Sensa 2 star

QUOTE=langel;269095]Which Xiom 2** balls - Sensa ABS seamed, Bravo ABS seamed, or Tour training seamless?[/QUOTE]

killiegradge
04-13-2019, 08:37 PM
I don't go to clubs, I have a personal coach and play with friends at my company, on the days I don't have training I practice at home for fun and exercise. And why do you make it sound like 500 balls are very expensive? It's not, not even close to some high end blades out there. Also, do I smell a little jelly there? Hmm, tasty tasty jelly. :cool::rolleyes:
How good would it be if these folks who don't think the cost of 500 balls is expensive could donate 500 balls to a club to help them move onto plastic 40+ balls?

DukeGaGa
04-13-2019, 08:51 PM
How good would it be if these folks who don't think the cost of 500 balls is expensive could donate 500 balls to a club to help them move onto plastic 40+ balls?

As a matter of fact, I donated over 1000 balls to my office, and a few paddles I don't use anymore. Also on a side note 4 pool cue sticks as well.

killiegradge
04-13-2019, 08:56 PM
As a matter of fact, I donated over 1000 balls to my office, and a few paddles I don't use anymore. Also on a side note 4 pool cue sticks as well.
How do your colleagues manage to play table tennis with pool ques?

DukeGaGa
04-13-2019, 09:15 PM
How do your colleagues manage to play table tennis with pool ques?
By hitting you in the head. :rolleyes:

killiegradge
04-13-2019, 09:41 PM
Ah good stuff. Hope you hurt me which isn't hard as I am a soft Glaswegian!
BTW do you prefer Dignics to Tenergy?(serious Q) and what are the differences?

Suga D
04-13-2019, 10:06 PM
Are they? Because it's common consensus that there are only few actual factories and production lines able to make "ABS" plastic balls and so DHS is producing all these for various brands including Sanwei. They might differ in quality control but otherwise they should be basically the same. It would be strange if DHS makes much better balls for other brands than their own...

From my information this is not accurate.
This might be true for many other balls out there but not for Sanwei balls.
Had a talk with one of the guys from spinfactory.de and he secured that SANWEI balls are NOT produced at one of DHS factories.
He stated that they are produced by SANWEI themselves.
18892
https://www.spinfactory.de/balls/40-abs-3star-ball-weiss-6er-packung.html

langel
04-14-2019, 06:39 AM
You can order to this manufacturer Jiujiang Usr Sporting Goods Co., Ltd. (https://usrsporting.en.made-in-china.com/)
to produce for you 1 000 000 per month, PP or Cel Nittaku/Nattaku, or whatever

https://usrsporting.en.made-in-china.com/product/UMOmABHGgyVx/China-Nattaku-Table-Tennis.html

JST
04-14-2019, 09:09 AM
From my information this is not accurate.
This might be true for many other balls out there but not for Sanwei balls.
Had a talk with one of the guys from spinfactory.de and he secured that SANWEI balls are NOT produced at one of DHS factories.


Thanks Suga D, I've read that claim by Spinfactory as well and I was almost purchasing some for test but then I googled around and there seems to be a lot of people thinking that they are actually made by DHS so unless Sanwei is cheaper it doesn't make much sense to get them instead of D40+. Are you sure that Spinfactory (who is major - if not the only official - importer of Sanwei to EU) is completely honest in this claim or they weren't misled by their Sanwei salesman from China?

Suga D
04-14-2019, 02:08 PM
Thanks Suga D, I've read that claim by Spinfactory as well and I was almost purchasing some for test but then I googled around and there seems to be a lot of people thinking that they are actually made by DHS so unless Sanwei is cheaper it doesn't make much sense to get them instead of D40+. Are you sure that Spinfactory (who is major - if not the only official - importer of Sanwei to EU) is completely honest in this claim or they weren't misled by their Sanwei salesman from China?

You might have a point there. I've read that as well, hence my question to the guys from spinfactory. But you really could be right. I'll ask them again and try to find out.

killiegradge
04-15-2019, 08:44 PM
As a matter of fact, I donated over 1000 balls to my office, and a few paddles I don't use anymore. Also on a side note 4 pool cue sticks as well.
That is so very very decent of you to donate balls that you will play with yourself.You really are the big philanthropist aren't you? I really hope you feel good about that. And BTW we dont use paddles table tennis players use BATS!

DukeGaGa
04-15-2019, 09:13 PM
That is so very very decent of you to donate balls that you will play with yourself.You really are the big philanthropist aren't you? I really hope you feel good about that. And BTW we dont use paddles table tennis players use BATS!

Say all you want. Also correction, say if you play at a club, and you donated equipments to the club such as tables or paddles or balls, you are saying you won't use them anymore? It's basically like saying "oh, someone just donated a building to my university, but he's not allowed to go in there." And yes, it's called paddles, and bats, and rackets, people use different terms around the world, just like soccer and football, and you should be telling them (https://www.paddlepalace.com/) to change their name if you are really concerned about the name. And soccer is the better name actually, I used to think football is the right way but it's actually supposed to be Association football, which shortens to be soccer, while football is a general type of ball sport that is played with your feet.

killiegradge
04-15-2019, 09:18 PM
Say all you want. Also correction, say if you play at a club, and you donated equipments to the club such as tables or paddles or balls, you are saying you won't use them anymore? It's basically like saying "oh, someone just donated a building to my university, but he's not allowed to go in there." And yes, it's called paddles, and bats, and rackets, people use different terms around the world, just like soccer and football, and you should be telling them (https://www.paddlepalace.com/) to change their name if you are really concerned about the name. And soccer is the better name actually, I used to think football is the right way but it's actually supposed to be Association football, which shortens to be soccer, while football is a general type of ball sport that is played with your feet.

Don't even begin to tell me about "Soccer" and how does Association Football shorten to Soccer?Your command of the English language is very, very poor so please don't even attempt to lecture me on language. You might have money but it is obvious you have no dignity or empathy with others.

DukeGaGa
04-15-2019, 09:22 PM
Don't even begin to tell me about "Soccer" and how does Association Football shorten to Soccer?Your command of the English language is very, very poor so please don't even attempt to lecture me on language. You might have money but it is obvious you have no dignity or empathy with others.

Like I said, say all you want. And you should ask wikipedia why it shortens to soccer, I'm just quoting them. Also, you should really think about your English skills since you are missing the whole point of an argument.

killiegradge
04-15-2019, 09:24 PM
Like I said, say all you want. And you should ask wikipedia why it shortens to soccer, I'm just quoting them. Also, you should really think about your English skills since you are missing the whole point of an argument.
You really believe Wikipedia?Says everything about your shallow mind!

DukeGaGa
04-15-2019, 09:27 PM
You really believe Wikipedia?Says everything about your shallow mind!

You just keep missing the point, everyone is going to think your doing that on purpose now. Keep up the good work.


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killiegradge
04-15-2019, 09:38 PM
Please tell me the point I am missing then?
Where did you obtain your encyclopedic knowledge of football?

Daarzy
05-23-2019, 03:53 PM
we play with joola flash

Loopadoop
05-23-2019, 04:30 PM
tt thread ?

The Pong Professor
11-10-2019, 06:06 PM
Has anyone tried out these ones ?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33052409517.html?gps-id=7590465&scm=1007.14677.110221.0&scm_id=1007.14677.110221.0&scm-url=1007.14677.110221.0&pvid=7097905f-d98c-4a08-8663-d76da3545054&spm=a2g1y.promotion-20181111.promoteWysiwyg_500694561.0

Thanks.
Patrick

TareqPhoto
02-07-2020, 08:51 PM
So, what is the conclusion about which balls for training? I have so cheap robot and i think it is more suitable with 40 balls than 40+, but i gave it a try and i see that it is not bad completely, i prefer to train with 40+ than with 40 if we all play with 40+ anyway.

killiegradge
02-08-2020, 10:11 PM
Where possible you should train and play with the same balls. eg if playing in a Tournament with Xushaofa balls then you practice with them in the days prior to the competition.Is that not common sense? Otherwise play with good quality balls and the technique will win over the ball type.

Gwenved
05-23-2020, 09:30 AM
Hello all, I usually train with the same balls we use in competition as here it's mandatory for the club to chose a ball at the beginning of the season and playing with it at home. So, I'm using Butterfly G40+. Other balls well played here are the Xushaofa and the Nittaku.

igorponger
05-23-2020, 10:31 AM
https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/H5634df69dcd448e7abcc9bbab095168cB.jpg

The best training balls ever. Quite costly, though.