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driversbeat
01-07-2020, 09:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN_N4pBliGc&feature=share

Does anyone know where we can view the original version of this video? Everyone sounds like they are on helium here.

igorponger
01-08-2020, 05:07 AM
There is many a slip between the cup and the lip

Koki Niwa is the very shaky link. This hole will sink the entire ship and crew

Jacky Kwok
01-08-2020, 08:57 AM
Looks like the following Japanese players/pairs are withdrawn from German Open.

MS: M. Yoshimura
MD: Harimoto/Niwa
XD: Harimoto/Hayata

MaLin2.0
01-08-2020, 09:27 AM
Looks like the following Japanese players/pairs are withdrawn from German Open.

MS: M. Yoshimura
MD: Harimoto/Niwa
XD: Harimoto/Hayata

What you mean?

Vlad Celler
01-08-2020, 10:12 AM
Hayata-Harimoto - indeed, the application has withdrawn ...

Jacky Kwok
01-08-2020, 10:58 AM
I mean these players/pairs were originally on the German Open entry list but are no longer there.


What you mean?

MaLin2.0
01-08-2020, 12:09 PM
I mean these players/pairs were originally on the German Open entry list but are no longer there.

I like the pair of Harimoto & Hayata they should leave it l, that pair works, I think team Japan made their calls very early, obvious but early, should have left it closer to the tournament just to keep players competing and trying to impress the coaching staff, could have negative impact if players go cold, as JNT will have to stick with them.

Think they are realising Koki Niwa/Harimoto might not work, Mizutani would be better fit anyway in Doubles with Koki

Vlad Celler
01-08-2020, 12:23 PM
I probably do not understand the logic of choosing JNT .....

daejoons
01-08-2020, 01:26 PM
I like the pair of Harimoto & Hayata they should leave it l, that pair works, I think team Japan made their calls very early, obvious but early, should have left it closer to the tournament just to keep players competing and trying to impress the coaching staff, could have negative impact if players go cold, as JNT will have to stick with them.

Think they are realising Koki Niwa/Harimoto might not work, Mizutani would be better fit anyway in Doubles with Koki

Two lefties rarely work together though...

Vlad Celler
01-08-2020, 04:16 PM
Curious ... In February, Portugal Challenger - declared Ishikawa, Sato, Kato ..... Ito, Hirano, Hayata-no ....
I wonder who will be announced in Hungary Open .....

zeio
01-08-2020, 04:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN_N4pBliGc&feature=share

Does anyone know where we can view the original version of this video? Everyone sounds like they are on helium here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-oX8dEg4vs

igorponger
01-09-2020, 05:16 AM
I probably do not understand the logic of choosing JNT .....

http://jtta.or.jp/news/aobut/tabid/103/Default.aspx?itemid=941&dispmid=580

zeio
01-24-2020, 07:47 AM
On the 24th, the JTTA has formally announced their WTTC line-up. Sato is in. Kato is out. Also, the July World Ranking List will be used for seeding.

https://hochi.news/articles/20200124-OHT1T50093.html

五輪の卓球団体シード順は7月の世界ランクで決定 中国開催の2大会も派遣の方針
2020年1月24日 12時42分スポーツ報知
# スポーツ# 卓球

 日本卓球協会は24日、都内で会見し、3月22日開幕の世界選手権団体戦(韓国・釜山)の日本代表男女各5人を発表した。

 宮崎義仁強化本部長は会見後に取材に応じ、東京五輪の団体のシード順について「現時点では7月の(世界)ランキングで決められるものと考えている」と語った。国際卓球連盟にも規定の解釈について問い合わせ、確認したという。対象の国際大会では6月23~28日のオーストラリア・オープン(OP)が最後の大会となる。

 団体のシード順はシングルスの世界ランクで上位選手が必ず勝つと仮定した上で、出場する3選手でオーダーを組んだ仮想の団体戦を行い、決定する。日本は第1シード確実の中国と決勝まで当たらない第2シードに入ることを重要視。1月時点では女子が2位、男子が3位となっており、男女とも6月までワールドツアーなどの国際大会を転戦し、第2シード確保に向けた戦いに挑むことになる。

 また今後の国際大会の日本選手団の派遣について、3月のカタールOPは直前まで国際情勢を見極めて判断する。中国では湖北省武漢市で発生した新型コロナウイルスの感染による肺炎が広がっているが、2月28~3月1日のアジア杯(中国・海南省)、5月の中国OP(深セン)の2大会は、ともに武漢市と1000キロ以上離れていることもあり、現時点では派遣する方針を示した。
The Olympic table tennis group seed order is determined by the world ranking in July.
January 24, 2020 12:42 Sports Alert
# Sports # Table tennis

The Japan Table Tennis Association held a meeting in Tokyo on the 24th, and announced the five men and women of each of Japan's representatives in the World Championships Team Match (Busan, Korea), which started on March 22.

In response to the interview after the interview, Miyazaki Yoshihito, director of the Headquarters, said, "We believe that the order of the seeds of the Tokyo Olympics groups will be determined at the moment in the July (world) ranking in July." He inquired of the International Table Tennis Federation about the interpretation of the rules and confirmed it. The Australian Open (OP) on June 23-28 will be the last international competition.

The seed order of the group is determined by assuming that the top players in the singles world rank will always win, and then conducting a virtual group battle in which the three players who participate will form an order. Japan attaches great importance to entering the second seed, which does not hit the final with China, which is surely the first seed. As of January, women are second and boys third, and both men and women will compete in international tournaments such as the World Tour until June to challenge the second seed.

Regarding the dispatch of the Japanese team for future international competitions, the Qatar OP in March will determine the international situation until just before. In China, pneumonia caused by the infection of the new coronavirus in Wuhan, Hubei Province has spread. Since the Asian Cup(Hainan province) and China Open(Shenzhen) are both more than 1,000 km away from Wuhan City, they indicated that they would dispatch them at this time.

Jacky Kwok
01-24-2020, 08:13 AM
I always expect Sato will be chosen over Kato for this remaining spot of the WTTC team. Sato has been always chosen for the major events including WTTC 2019 single and double, and the Team World Cup 2019.

Takkyu_wa_inochi
01-24-2020, 08:26 AM
as a reminder, the line up for WTTTC2020
Mens: Harimoto, Niwa, Mizutani, Morizono, Uda
Womens : Ito, Ishikawa, Hirano, Hayata, Sato

Vlad Celler
01-24-2020, 08:53 AM
On Hina Hayat's Facebook fan page:
(four hours ago)

●女子
伊藤美誠(スターツ)
石川佳純(全農)
平野美宇(日本生命)
佐藤瞳(ミキハウス)
早田ひな(日本生命)


● Women
Mima Ito
Kasumi Ishikawa
Miu Hirano
Hitomi Sato
Hina Hayata

Vlad Celler
01-25-2020, 03:09 PM
In anticipation of tomorrow I will slightly raise the topic ....
Tomorrow - draw of the first stage, Germany Open ...Knok-out...3 rounds ...
In qualification - 6 Chinese women...
Sato, Kato, Hayata - they will have to play qualification ....

MaLin2.0
01-26-2020, 06:22 AM
In anticipation of tomorrow I will slightly raise the topic ....
Tomorrow - draw of the first stage, Germany Open ...Knok-out...3 rounds ...
In qualification - 6 Chinese women...
Sato, Kato, Hayata - they will have to play qualification ....

Can't wait to see this event, hopefully draw gets released soon

Vlad Celler
01-26-2020, 06:39 AM
Can't wait to see this event, hopefully draw gets released soon

I, too..:o

12.00 Germany time ...Perhaps in five hours from this moment we can see .....:o

pongfugrasshopper
01-30-2020, 02:26 PM
Awful, awful game 3 by HH! FTW wins 9 points in a row???? Come on, HH. Keep your focus!

Edit: Sorry, meant to post on German Open thread.

zeio
02-06-2020, 12:12 PM
T.League reports that Hayata has visited the hospital for a diagnosis after returning from German Open and it's intercostal muscle strain.

https://tleague.jp/team/nissay-redelf/news/article/3682/

早田ひな選手欠場のお知らせ

2020.02.06(木)選手

いつもあたたかい応援を頂き、誠にありがとうございます。

早田ひな選手はドイツオープン帰国後、都内の病院で検査を行い、
肋間筋の負傷との診断となりました。

現在は治療を最優先とする為、Tリーグの試合は当面欠場致します。


何卒、ご理解頂きますよう宜しくお願いします。

Vlad Celler
02-06-2020, 12:41 PM
Hopefully she will play in Hungary ....

Vlad Celler
02-06-2020, 12:43 PM
Sorry .. Maybe offtopic ...
Yura Shinohara ....Hispania Open...I'm afraid to make a mistake ... This girl can have a great future ....:o

Vlad Celler
02-10-2020, 09:34 AM
Hina Hayata withdrew the application from Hungary Open ..:(
(perhaps the injury was quite serious ....):(
(the result in the March ITTF rating i- 7320 .... Nr.24-26 ..):(

MaLin2.0
02-10-2020, 09:36 AM
Hina Hayata withdrew the application from Hungary Open ..:(
(perhaps the injury was quite serious ....):(
(the result in the March ITTF rating i- 7320 .... Nr.24-26 ..):(

I wonder why CNT doesn't play in this tournament. You would think some players need to boost their rankings.

Vlad Celler
02-10-2020, 09:44 AM
I wonder why CNT doesn't play in this tournament. You would think some players need to boost their rankings.

I don’t know ...:o It seems that earlier Janard gave an explanation why there is no CNT ... They have some fees before Qatar Open, sort of like that .....

MaLin2.0
02-10-2020, 09:52 AM
I don’t know ...:o It seems that earlier Janard gave an explanation why there is no CNT ... They have some fees before Qatar Open, sort of like that .....

I'm from Australia, believe the national team budget and finances would have limitation whilst CNT budget would be close to unlimited, whatever they want they get, I'm sure whatever prize money won by the team would cover the fees incurred.

Vlad Celler
02-10-2020, 09:59 AM
I understand you ... In the case of Hina Hayata - I still that the fact is that she has health problems .... It is a pity .. She had a good chance to secure fifth place in the national team and come close to fourth place .....

MaLin2.0
02-10-2020, 10:47 AM
I understand you ... In the case of Hina Hayata - I still that the fact is that she has health problems .... It is a pity .. She had a good chance to secure fifth place in the national team and come close to fourth place .....

No rush, plenty tournamentd throughout the year, if she is not 10p% rest up. Hopefully she can makd Qatar.

Vlad Celler
02-10-2020, 10:54 AM
No rush, plenty tournamentd throughout the year, if she is not 10p% rest up. Hopefully she can makd Qatar.

Qatar is already the entire Chinese female TOP-10 and the game in qualification ....:(
In any case, I wish Hina Hayate a speedy recovery and return !!:)

MaLin2.0
02-11-2020, 08:30 AM
Qatar is already the entire Chinese female TOP-10 and the game in qualification ....:(
In any case, I wish Hina Hayate a speedy recovery and return !!:)

Relax Hina will be fine lol, trust me I share your safe confidence in how good she will become, Harimoto is a big name but feel Hina is something special that once few of top Chinese ladies step out of the way she will pressure the new generation of Chinese players.

Japanese are doing plenty right and their system is showing results. Look at Miyu girls all juniors and doing exceptional at a senior level.

Tempest/Comet
02-11-2020, 10:54 AM
Mi (美 beauty/pretty) is a very common first part given name for Japanese girls. e.g. MI-u(宇), MI-ma(誠), MI-yu(優), MI-yuu(柚), MI-zuki(月), MI-saki(咲), MI-ka (香)etc...

Vlad Celler
02-11-2020, 10:59 AM
Of the last ones I saw ... hmm .. young Japanese women, I was impressed by the game of Yura Shinohara .(speed, backhand ...)....:o

Jacky Kwok
02-11-2020, 11:28 AM
Even the coach, Mika Baba 馬場美香 (originally Mika Hoshino 星野美香) :)


Mi (美 beauty/pretty) is a very common first part given name for Japanese girls. e.g. MI-u(宇), MI-ma(誠), MI-yu(優), MI-yuu(柚), MI-zuki(月), MI-saki(咲), MI-ka (香)etc...

Janard
02-12-2020, 01:30 AM
Ishikawa-senpai gambatte in Portugal! Cha! Is she gonna be the new Challenge Queen?

20794

Heard she's doing pretty well at the T-league :cool:

Vlad Celler
02-12-2020, 05:24 AM
Honestly, it’s not entirely clear to me why she participates in the Portugal Open ....Even in case of victory, the increase in the rating is negligible ....
Actually, for the TOP-6 ITTF (WS) the results of the March rating have already been determined .... Everyone remains in place ....
(Hina Hayata goes down ... 7320 ..in the April ranking - another notable deduction ....)

Takkyu_wa_inochi
02-12-2020, 05:32 AM
Lisbon is a beautiful place to visit

zeio
02-12-2020, 01:39 PM
Honestly, it’s not entirely clear to me why she participates in the Portugal Open ....Even in case of victory, the increase in the rating is negligible ....
Actually, for the TOP-6 ITTF (WS) the results of the March rating have already been determined .... Everyone remains in place ....
(Hina Hayata goes down ... 7320 ..in the April ranking - another notable deduction ....)
Well, my idol said she had to raise her ranking to "get seed" for the Olympics. Well, not like she stands a chance even if she's top 4.

https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2020/02/11/kiji/20200211s00026000519000c.html

東京五輪日本代表選手で出場するのは石川のみだが「シードを獲得するには優勝してポイントを稼ぐしかない」と出場を決めた。

https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2020/02/12/kiji/20200212s00026000015000c.html

 午後に地元・山口で行われたTリーグに出場してから羽田に移動という強行日程だったが「五輪でシード権を獲るために世界ランクを上げる必要がある」と寸暇を惜しんで五輪本番にまい進している。

Vlad Celler
02-12-2020, 01:49 PM
Well, my idol said she had to raise her ranking to "get seed" for the Olympics. Well, not like she stands a chance even if she's top 4.

https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2020/02/11/kiji/20200211s00026000519000c.html


https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2020/02/12/kiji/20200212s00026000015000c.html

To be honest, I don’t even see the theoretical possibility that by July it would rise to nr. 7 ...

zeio
02-12-2020, 02:08 PM
Apparently, her plan is to make the top 4 on the July Olympic ranking. FTW is in that place right now. My idol wants to knock her off, but CIC is on her tail as well, so it's gonna be a 3-way contest.

https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Women-Singles-OR-2020.02.pdf
https://i.imgur.com/YowLmys.png

Vlad Celler
02-12-2020, 02:25 PM
С.I.C. - Oman cfellend+.......

Yes .. It looks like we will be witnessing a fierce battle between F.T., C.I.C. and Ishikawa...

zeio
02-12-2020, 03:41 PM
Stirmate Kato just won't give up...

https://i.imgur.com/YSMQ59J.png

Vlad Celler
02-12-2020, 04:37 PM
I must admit that Ishikawa has certain chances - to become No. 8 in the July ITTF rating ....
F.T. it is unlikely to be able to seriously hinder her, but C.I.C. - maybe ....

NextLevel
02-12-2020, 04:42 PM
Stirmate Kato just won't give up...

https://i.imgur.com/YSMQ59J.png
I don't think it has anything to do with giving up, she is now playing a B team schedule with the Hashimotos of the team.

Janard
02-13-2020, 02:16 AM
F.T. it is unlikely to be able to seriously hinder her....

20803 20804

Vlad Celler
02-13-2020, 03:15 AM
:o:o:o

Vlad Celler
02-13-2020, 05:43 AM
С.I.C. - Oman cfellend+.......

Yes .. It looks like we will be witnessing a fierce battle between F.T., C.I.C. and Ishikawa...

Ishikawa makes a calculation of his best starting opportunities in March ....
Indeed, when calculating the April ITTF rating:

1 - direct deductions of old bonuses for March 2019
2 - replacement of the previous results of WTTTC-2018 with the results of WTTTC-2020 (22-29 / 3-2020)

compare:

F.T. (-1125/3-2019) , (-1750/wtttc-2018)
ISHIKAWA (-1750/wtttc-2018)
CHENG I-Ching (-2250/wtttc)

But this is only an April rating ... Next is May, June, July .....

zeio
02-13-2020, 07:25 AM
I don't think it has anything to do with giving up, she is now playing a B team schedule with the Hashimotos of the team.

That's what I thought, until I compared with what she did last year. It tells me she still wants to compete for the reserve player.

Kato and Morita(who beat Hayata in the T.League) were the only JNT players who signed up for Spanish Open(Challenge) last year. Her other teammates all signed up for Oman Open(Challenge Plus), which was the natural choice since it was next to Qatar.

In the end, Kato won and got 850 pts, comparable to making the final at Oman Open. At best, she could've ended up making SF, or 715 pts, like with Hirano and Sato had she chosen Oman Open instead. A difference of 135 pts might not seem much, until you see that's the gap b/w Ishikawa and Hirano at the end of the race. What if Hirano played Spanish Open instead?

Her teammates know better this year, with many signing up for Polish Open instead of Oman Open.

https://i.imgur.com/NZR0ITZ.png

Vlad Celler
02-13-2020, 07:46 AM
(curious ... paid attention - there are those who signed up for Poland and Oman at the same time!)

(It will be interesting to see the April rating ... especially if WTTTC is not canceled ....there will be noticeable changes in the TOP-30 ranking ...)

zeio
02-13-2020, 08:19 AM
Yes, they're all keeping a close watch here.

In essence, there are 3 tiers of contest going on here - Olympic seeding, reserve player, and WTTC 2021.

Janard
02-13-2020, 10:09 AM
That's what I thought, until I compared with what she did last year. It tells me she still wants to compete for the reserve player.

But surely JNT/JTTA will not consider her even if she does rise to become the fourth highest-ranked Japanese woman? I mean, her key issue is the lack of synergy with Ishikawa, Ito, Hirano and even Hayata for doubles.


2017 - World Tour, Swedish Open, Stockholm (SWE) - 1/8F with NAGASAKI Miyu2017 - Challenge, Polish Open, Warsaw (POL) - 2nd with MAEDA Miyu
2017 - World Tour, Austrian Open, Linz (AUT) - 1/2F with NAGASAKI Miyu
2017 - Challenge, Belarus Open, Minsk (BLR) - 1st with MORIZONO Misaki

Singles wise, she hasn't shown to be particularly effective against any player outside of the association (unless you count the T2 match against CM as one). Her other outstanding wins against players who are likely to be at the Olympics are Cheng I-Ching, Minnie Soo and Shin Yubin. Hmm?

Vlad Celler
02-13-2020, 10:30 AM
Speaking of Kato - she has a big drop in the April ITTF rating ..... (- 1750 points) ....

driversbeat
02-14-2020, 01:25 AM
The order may have been muddied for awhile, but given recent developments it's clear that JNT's current hierarchy is as follows:

1. Ito
2. Ishikawa
3. Hirano
4. Hayata
5. Sato
6. Kato

In 2019, Kato was still able to squeeze herself into JNT's top 5. Right now she's clearly on the outside of that. Of course she's going to do whatever she can to get back in, no matter the odds.

Vlad Celler
02-14-2020, 05:33 AM
My opinion is that Hayata is no worse than Ishikawa ....
Kato - In the March ITTF ranking, she will bypass Hayata ... But it’s hard to say what happens next ...

zeio
02-14-2020, 11:41 AM
But surely JNT/JTTA will not consider her even if she does rise to become the fourth highest-ranked Japanese woman? I mean, her key issue is the lack of synergy with Ishikawa, Ito, Hirano and even Hayata for doubles.



Singles wise, she hasn't shown to be particularly effective against any player outside of the association (unless you count the T2 match against CM as one). Her other outstanding wins against players who are likely to be at the Olympics are Cheng I-Ching, Minnie Soo and Shin Yubin. Hmm?

Took me a good while to dig up past articles.

Yes, she has no chance if they go by the book.

http://www.jtta.or.jp/Portals/0/images/player/selection/2018/20180922_2020oiympic_tokyo.pdf

4.リザーブ候補選手1名
日本がメダルを獲得するために必要なダブルス及びシングルスでの国際競争力を持ち合わせている者1名を、強化本部が決定し理事会に報告及びJOCに推薦する。リザーブ選手の発表時期はJOCへのエントリー期限直前とする。

But if we look back, then things are not as cut and dry, despite similar wording in past selection criteria. When Murakami was still in charge, he went by world ranking for London 2012 and Rio 2016.

London 2012

https://web.archive.org/web/20110418150726/http://www.jtta.or.jp/topics/2011/12londonolympicselection.pdf

3.リザーブ選手(1名)の選出方法
(1)強化本部推薦(1 名)
次の 3 点を勘案し強化本部が決定する。
イ、 国際競争力の実績と評価。
ロ、 国際競争力向上への高い潜在性があると思われる選手。
ハ、 日本がメダルを獲得するために必要な国際競争力を、シングルス・ダブルス共に持ち合わせている者

http://world-tt.com/ps_info/ps_report_detail.php?bn=1&pg=HEAD&page=BACK&rpcdno=746#746

[女子]福原愛・石川佳純・平野早矢香(アジア大陸予選出場)
リザーブ:藤井寛子

Rio 2016

https://web.archive.org/web/20150221033832/http://www.jtta.or.jp/topics/2016/16rioolympicselection.pdf

3.リザーブ選手(1名)の選出方法
(1)強化本部推薦(1名)
次の2点を勘案し、強化本部が決定する。
イ、国際競争力の実績と評価
ロ、日本がメダルを獲得するために必要な国際競争力を持ち合わせている者

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?20935-Japan-Women-s-Race-to-Tokyo-2020-Singles&p=294352&viewfull=1#post294352

From the selections for Rio (http://world-tt.com/ps_info/ps_report.php?bn=1&pg=HEAD&page=BACK&rpcdno=1845#1845), Murakami explicitly told the media that the 3rd spot would be decided by world ranking. For the men's team, it would be decided by development headquarter, and in the end they went by world ranking.

5 Mizutani
12 Niwa
18 M. Yoshimura
22 Oshima

5 Ishikawa
6 Fukuhara
10 Ito
17 Hirano

Therefore, for Sato, Hayata and Kato, it's in their best interest to push their ranking as high as possible, especially in Hayata's case, as it'd justify and reinforce the selection criteria by the development headquarter.

Vlad Celler
02-14-2020, 12:54 PM
So far, Hina Hayata unwittingly gives them a small head start ....Due to Portugal Open and Hungary Open ....
It is interesting that Hayata did not declare participation in Oman plus .....
Although Hayata was announced in WTTTC-2020, it is unlikely that she will play more than one or two games .....And, accordingly, will not score points to the rating ....In any case, in the April ranking, she will not come out of the third ten ...

zeio
02-14-2020, 05:33 PM
Remember the Japanese blogger kittyoyaji that I quoted last year? In her recent entries, she shows her anger over Hayata's injury.

http://kittyoyaji.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-1503.html

早田ひな 35 限界突破
...
早田ひなはなぜ毎年自分だけが故障するのかを深く考えるべき

Hayata should think deeply why only her breaks down every year

http://kittyoyaji.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-1497.html

早田ひな 34 やはり故障
全日本直前の限界を外した練習を
美談扱いした記事もあったけれど
結局は故障した
半年前から気づいてもらえればと
注意喚起したが 実らず
早田ひなと石田大輔コーチは状況判断が致命的に甘い
同じ誤りを繰りかえすなら
今後の選手人生で文字通り致命傷になるだろう
twitterのRTが気づきになれば
Practice without limit just before All-Japan
Some articles were treated as good stories
But ultimately broke down
If only they noticed 6 months ago
Gave heads-up but to no avail
Hayata and coach Ishida's judgment of the situation is fatally loose
If you repeat the same mistake
Will literally be fatal to the future of career
If you noticed the retweets

Vlad Celler
02-14-2020, 06:41 PM
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Janard
02-15-2020, 02:23 PM
Xiaona Shan has had her fans erupt in joy as she beat Japan’s Hitomi Sato in straight games (11-5, 11-9, 11-1, 11-5) in a quite extraordinary performance by the German. Needing less than 34 minutes, her backhand strokes were too good for Sato and take Shan to the quarter-finals.
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Vlad Celler
02-15-2020, 02:37 PM
I will never forget the gaming moment when Shan Xiaona played with Mima Ito in 2015 at Germany Open, in Bremen ....She came to herself for a very long time .... I even thought that she had a strong desire - to pull Mima Ito by the hair ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4HGmrO-iyU


(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4HGmrO-iyU)(It’s a pity, the recording is short ... two minutes or even three passed before Xiaona came to her senses ...)


(Shan Xiaona could well win this tournament ...)

NextLevel
02-15-2020, 09:13 PM
(Shan Xiaona could well win this tournament ...)

Shibata: Do I look like a chopper?

Vlad Celler
02-16-2020, 10:21 AM
Kato-fire .... "Idol" Zeio in trouble ....

NextLevel
02-16-2020, 11:49 AM
Kato-fire .... "Idol" Zeio in trouble ....

Someone placed a phone call after game 2 to remind Kato that Ishikawa needs the points far more than Kato does.

Vlad Celler
02-16-2020, 12:12 PM
Someone placed a phone call after game 2 to remind Kato that Ishikawa needs the points far more than Kato does.

:o:o:o:o:o

igorponger
02-16-2020, 06:28 PM
https://www.thesportsman.com/features/the-coronavirus-has-just-cancelled-sport-in-asia-where-next
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-all-the-conferences-and-sporting-fixtures-affected-by-outbreak-fears-11932929

/Be happy/

Vlad Celler
02-16-2020, 07:26 PM
Игорь,блин !
Ну чо ты пугаешь-то !

Sali
02-16-2020, 07:54 PM
Someone placed a phone call after game 2 to remind Kato that Ishikawa needs the points far more than Kato does.
Ishikawa said: I am experienced player and I faced lower ranked opponents like Kato many times. Sometime they have something new, they are more focused at some time during match and they are more lucky. They can win 1 or 2 sets but finally I take control and the match is mine.
If you do not belive me watch the final match. I will show how good I can be.

Janard
02-17-2020, 03:19 AM
An off-topic question – does anyone know why Ni XiaLian got disqualified in the match against Batra?

NextLevel
02-17-2020, 03:31 AM
An off-topic question – does anyone know why Ni XiaLian got disqualified in the match against Batra?

I think someone posted an article where there was a dispute over whether she moved the table or not (the point was awarded against her). Then I think her appeal got the referee called to the table, then her behavior towards the referee might have escalated things. Don't have all the details but that is what I could piece together. I will find the post on mytt.

NextLevel
02-17-2020, 03:32 AM
An off-topic question – does anyone know why Ni XiaLian got disqualified in the match against Batra?

I think someone posted an article where there was a dispute over whether she moved the table or not (the point was awarded against her). Then I think her appeal got the referee called to the table, then her behavior towards the referee might have escalated things. Don't have all the details but that is what I could piece together. I will find the post on mytt. http://redirect.viglink.com/?format=go&jsonp=vglnk_158191033261812&key=302628ce622c245be894a34dc51f0b36&libId=k6pwkdov01033jkt000MAd4qu3zra&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fmytabletennis.net%2Fforum%2Ftopic87724_page1.html%231091460&v=1&out=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wort.lu%2Fde%2Fsport%2Fportugal-open-ni-xia-lian-wird-disqualifiziert-5e470217da2cc1784e356390&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fmytabletennis.net%2Fforum%2F&title=2020%20Portugal%20Open%20(Feb%2012%20to%2016.)%20-%20Alex%20Table%20Tennis%20-%20MyTableTennis.NET%20Forum&txt=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wort.lu%2Fde%2Fsport%2Fportugal-open-ni-xia-lian-wird-disqualifiziert-5e470217da2cc1784e356390

zeio
02-17-2020, 04:07 AM
https://www.wort.lu/de/sport/portugal-open-ni-xia-lian-wird-disqualifiziert-5e470217da2cc1784e356390

Selbst die Inderin stützte die Aussagen von Ni. Dennoch wurde sie vom Oberschiedsrichter disqualifiziert.
"Even the Indian supported Ni’s statements. However, she was disqualified by the head judge."

https://i.imgur.com/DYRa0JM.gif

NextLevel
02-17-2020, 04:42 AM
https://www.wort.lu/de/sport/portugal-open-ni-xia-lian-wird-disqualifiziert-5e470217da2cc1784e356390

"Even the Indian supported Ni’s statements. However, she was disqualified by the head judge."

https://i.imgur.com/DYRa0JM.gif

Yeah when that happens it means she either refused to continue or insulted the refs.

Vlad Celler
02-17-2020, 05:40 AM
I think someone posted an article where there was a dispute over whether she moved the table or not (the point was awarded against her). Then I think her appeal got the referee called to the table, then her behavior towards the referee might have escalated things. Don't have all the details but that is what I could piece together. I will find the post on mytt. http://redirect.viglink.com/?format=go&jsonp=vglnk_158191033261812&key=302628ce622c245be894a34dc51f0b36&libId=k6pwkdov01033jkt000MAd4qu3zra&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fmytabletennis.net%2Fforum%2Ftopic87724_page1.html%231091460&v=1&out=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wort.lu%2Fde%2Fsport%2Fportugal-open-ni-xia-lian-wird-disqualifiziert-5e470217da2cc1784e356390&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fmytabletennis.net%2Fforum%2F&title=2020%20Portugal%20Open%20(Feb%2012%20to%2016.)%20-%20Alex%20Table%20Tennis%20-%20MyTableTennis.NET%20Forum&txt=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wort.lu%2Fde%2Fsport%2Fportugal-open-ni-xia-lian-wird-disqualifiziert-5e470217da2cc1784e356390



(This is just a private opinion of a sports observer in one country.!)

.....Meanwhile, in the main personal ITTF Challenge Plus, another embarrassment occurred - this is when something happens, and the ITTF advertising service does not know how to respond.

The most experienced active table tennis professional on the planet - Chinese No. 44 Ni Xia Lian (July 4, 1963), Luxembourg - was disqualified in the second round game against No. 67 Batra Manika, India.

This incident on the ITTF server fit into one phrase.

No. 44 Ni Xia Lian from Luxembourg was disqualified due to a controversial point, and then No. 67 Batra Manika from India went on - to present, for a moment, as an experienced professional, a 56-year-old mother of two children (27-year-old son and 16-year-old daughter ) throws a racket, stamps his feet and swears dirtyly rather difficultly.

But ITTF invites the audience to conjecture something from this series. No recorded video. There are no detailed explanations. So, there is something to keep silent.

Although unwillingness to comment on anything can be quite mundane. Ni Xia Lian has been a European resident for over 20 years. And besides the children there is also an 88-year-old mother of the athlete. And her husband Tommy Danielsson, a trainer from Luxembourg, helps in household chores......

Vlad Celler
02-17-2020, 01:40 PM
Hungary Open, the main Draw...

In one half - Ito, Kato, Sato, Hirano ....

Ishikawa in the second half, one Japanese girl :o

zeio
02-17-2020, 02:09 PM
All this work to get +80 points for my idol.

https://i.imgur.com/s4epDhV.png

Vlad Celler
02-17-2020, 02:42 PM
Ishikawa to get around F.T. in the March ITTF ranking, should reach the finals ...:o

zeio
02-17-2020, 03:38 PM
https://i.imgur.com/QF8pvX3.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/txLWGAZ.gif

Vlad Celler
02-19-2020, 07:32 PM
ITO - NI Xia Lian

zeio
02-23-2020, 04:43 PM
+70 pts for my idol, yet this much work and only enough to catch up w/ FTW.

https://i.imgur.com/M9Igx7y.png

Vlad Celler
02-23-2020, 05:28 PM
Too bad Hina Hayata... Third Tour already ...

apacible
02-24-2020, 06:17 PM
Yes, they're all keeping a close watch here.

In essence, there are 3 tiers of contest going on here - Olympic seeding, reserve player, and WTTC 2021.

Speaking of Olympic Seeding, another hotly contested race is the Mixed Doubles Seeding Race. Xu/Liu has pretty much has secured the first seed, so now it's a 3-horse race between Japan, Hong Kong and Chinese Taipei for the 2nd seed, which is the only way to be guaranteed a draw in the half opposite of China during the Olympics.

After the results from the Hungarian Open, the current WR standings are as follows:
1. Xu/Liu 2880 Points
2. Wong/Doo 2190 Points
3. Cheng/Lin 2090 Points
4. Mizutani/Ito 2075 Points

The Mizutani injury in Hungary not only prevented Japan from possibly getting more ranking points in a tournament without Chinese doubles pairs, but also allowed Hong Kong to get much needed ranking points as they finished 1st in Hungary without Japan or China having a chance to stop them.

The good news for Japan is that the Mixed Doubles ranking for July 2020 will be used for the Olympics. See the photo below for a breakdown of the standings.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/cache.php?img=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tabletennisdaily.com%2Fforum%2Fcache.php%3Fimg%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fi.ibb.co%252FcDmbfgT%252FMixed-Doubles-Race-After-Hungarian-Open-2020.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

Since Mizutani/Ito only started competing in July 2019, none of the points the Japanese pair has earned so far will expire. For Wong/Doo and Cheng/Lin, however, they stand to face deductions from last year's opens such as Qatar, China, HK and Japan. Taiwan's pair is hit the hardest since they were Champions in China and Hong Kong last year and these points will expire before the Olympics start. However, the race between HK and Japan looks really tight.

Only the top 8 tournaments count towards Mixed Doubles Ranking, and it looks more than certain that HK will be able to replace their lowest performance of 80 points with at least a SF finish in one of the future Platinum events, which will push them above Japan in ranking. Japan will need to step up in the Platinum events to keep their lead, but Mizutani's health is the big question mark.

Seeding may eventually be the difference between Olympic Gold, Silver, Bronze or No Medal at all, so the mixed double event in these last few tournaments leading up to the Olympics are crucial.

Vlad Celler
02-25-2020, 05:18 AM
So, WTTTC is postponed until at least the end of June ...
(and there is also a deferred Asian Cup ..)
It is very likely that tournaments in Japan, China and Korea will be delayed ...

(the April ITTF rating for TOP-16 WS will be determined mainly by the Qatar Open results ... WTTTC-2018 results remain, and this is a plus for Japan, TPE - С.I.C. ....)

MaLin2.0
02-25-2020, 07:03 AM
Speaking of Olympic Seeding, another hotly contested race is the Mixed Doubles Seeding Race. Xu/Liu has pretty much has secured the first seed, so now it's a 3-horse race between Japan, Hong Kong and Chinese Taipei for the 2nd seed, which is the only way to be guaranteed a draw in the half opposite of China during the Olympics.

After the results from the Hungarian Open, the current WR standings are as follows:
1. Xu/Liu 2880 Points
2. Wong/Doo 2190 Points
3. Cheng/Lin 2090 Points
4. Mizutani/Ito 2075 Points

The Mizutani injury in Hungary not only prevented Japan from possibly getting more ranking points in a tournament without Chinese doubles pairs, but also allowed Hong Kong to get much needed ranking points as they finished 1st in Hungary without Japan or China having a chance to stop them.

The good news for Japan is that the Mixed Doubles ranking for July 2020 will be used for the Olympics. See the photo below for a breakdown of the standings.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/cache.php?img=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tabletennisdaily.com%2Fforum%2Fcache.php%3Fimg%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fi.ibb.co%252FcDmbfgT%252FMixed-Doubles-Race-After-Hungarian-Open-2020.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

Since Mizutani/Ito only started competing in July 2019, none of the points the Japanese pair has earned so far will expire. For Wong/Doo and Cheng/Lin, however, they stand to face deductions from last year's opens such as Qatar, China, HK and Japan. Taiwan's pair is hit the hardest since they were Champions in China and Hong Kong last year and these points will expire before the Olympics start. However, the race between HK and Japan looks really tight.

Only the top 8 tournaments count towards Mixed Doubles Ranking, and it looks more than certain that HK will be able to replace their lowest performance of 80 points with at least a SF finish in one of the future Platinum events, which will push them above Japan in ranking. Japan will need to step up in the Platinum events to keep their lead, but Mizutani's health is the big question mark.

Seeding may eventually be the difference between Olympic Gold, Silver, Bronze or No Medal at all, so the mixed double event in these last few tournaments leading up to the Olympics are crucial.

That's impressive so how do you calculate? Points over 12 months so for March rankings add whatever points gained in Feb 2020 and subtract Feb 2019 points?

zeio
02-25-2020, 07:36 AM
This WTTC is completely wasted.

It's literally been reduced to an Open event now. Since the Olympic singles will be decided by that time, with less than a month left before Tokyo 2020, no teams will risk going all out.

MaLin2.0
02-25-2020, 07:41 AM
This WTTC is completely wasted.

It's literally been reduced to an Open event now. Since the Olympic singles will be decided by that time, with less than a month left before Tokyo 2020, no teams will risk going all out.

I wonder what approached can teams have now?

Last real events Qatar and Australia, other than that qualifiers in Asia and other events possible write offs.

Japan Platinum might still be playable

Vlad Celler
02-25-2020, 07:54 AM
Now it’s hard to count something ...After all, there is still no complete certainty that Tokyo 2020 will not be postponed .....

zeio
02-25-2020, 08:32 AM
I wonder what approached can teams have now?

Last real events Qatar and Australia, other than that qualifiers in Asia and other events possible write offs.

Japan Platinum might still be playable

The entire calendar is a mess now.

Qatar Open is nicknamed "mini WTTC" because that's where teams test the water but now that the WTTC is postponed, it's lost its strategic value.

Players can realistically peak 1 to 2 times a year but with the current situation, expect a lackluster year.

https://i.imgur.com/BsNFzjr.png

https://i.imgur.com/n4KaRuR.png

Vlad Celler
02-25-2020, 09:07 AM
Hina Hayata got a long vacation .....:(
I hope that by June she will not fall out of thirty in the ITTF rating ...
We wish her back as soon as possible!:o

apacible
02-25-2020, 05:03 PM
That's impressive so how do you calculate? Points over 12 months so for March rankings add whatever points gained in Feb 2020 and subtract Feb 2019 points?

Yes, that's correct. The new ranking system makes it easier for average Joes like us to compute and predict World Rankings even before the rankings are actually released.


Hina Hayata got a long vacation

The postponement of the WTTTC is actually good news for her and Japan as it gives her more time to recover from her injury. She might not have been able to play in March but there's a good chance she'll be able to play in June.

In terms of WR and Olympic seeding, the biggest losers of the WTTTC postponement are the players whose best results were in tournaments before July 2019. Examples of some of these players are Liu Shiwen, Wang Manyu, Lin Gaoyuan, and the Cheng/Lin doubles pair. Now that the Australian Open and Korea Open will be postponed to after the Olympics, these players will have less tournaments and therefore, less chances to make up for their expired WR points before the Olympics, which could hurt their Olympic chances or at least their Olympic seeding. The Qatar Open will be the only surefire chance to make up for expired WR points since the statuses of the Japan, China and HK Open are now up in the air.

Vlad Celler
02-25-2020, 05:08 PM
Yes, that's correct. The new ranking system makes it easier for average Joes like us to compute and predict World Rankings even before the rankings are actually released.



The postponement of the WTTTC is actually good news for her and Japan as it gives her more time to recover from her injury. She might not have been able to play in March but there's a good chance she'll be able to play in June.

In terms of WR and Olympic seeding, the biggest losers of the WTTTC postponement are the players whose best results were in tournaments before July 2019. Examples of some of these players are Liu Shiwen, Wang Manyu, Lin Gaoyuan, and the Cheng/Lin doubles pair. Now that the Australian Open and Korea Open will be postponed to after the Olympics, these players will have less tournaments and therefore, less chances to make up for their expired WR points before the Olympics, which could hurt their Olympic chances or at least their Olympic seeding. The Qatar Open will be the only surefire chance to make up for expired WR points since the statuses of the Japan, China and HK Open are now up in the air.

Thank you ... As always from you - an exhaustively accurate assessment of the current situation!

Vlad Celler
02-25-2020, 05:11 PM
The most interesting thing for me in Qatar Open is the struggle for leadership in the ITTF ranking between C.I.C and Ishikawa ...

Tempest/Comet
02-26-2020, 03:35 PM
Hina Hayata got a long vacation .....:(
I hope that by June she will not fall out of thirty in the ITTF rating ...
We wish her back as soon as possible!:o
Allow her to rest up and recover from injury. She’s not going anywhere anymore, got in the WTTC already, and basically out of the Olympic race. The points are not so important now.
I think she should stay out of the limelight (Hirano too), dig deep to practice and fix her techniques like Ito, figure out why she’s so prone to injuries, and come out next meet with a roar.
The next meaningful match for her this quarter is the final T League tournament, to lead Nissay to a second year championship.

Vlad Celler
02-28-2020, 04:00 AM
Qatar Open - C.I.C. withdraw,,,Ishikawa, in order to go ahead in the April ITTF ranking, must go at least to SF in Qatar Open ....

Addition - Japanese athletes withdrew their applications for Oman Open ....

zeio
02-28-2020, 07:45 AM
Other than CCY for Qatar Open, the entire Taipei team has pulled out of Qatar Open and Oman Open.

The entire JNT has also pulled out of the Oman Open. Kato and a few others have also pulled out of Polish Open.

https://i.imgur.com/aHciSwW.png

Vlad Celler
02-28-2020, 07:58 AM
I am pretty sure that Japan Open will be canceled ... Japan has officially canceled the national table tennis tournaments scheduled for March ....
If so, then the situation with the ITTF rating before the start of Tokyo 2020 will significantly complicate the position of CNT ....

Janard
02-28-2020, 09:07 AM
There will probably be some sort 'special seedings' worked out – how it is gonna be done Idk – if the number of canceled Opens before the Olympics (if it continues) rises.

Vlad Celler
02-28-2020, 09:15 AM
Interesting ... Let's wait a month or two .....So far, of course, the situation favors Japan ....

zeio
02-28-2020, 05:12 PM
https://hochi.news/articles/20200226-OHT1T50001.html

張本智和、世界卓球も延期「びっくり」 五輪団体前哨戦メダル計画に狂い
2020年2月26日 6時0分スポーツ報知

 卓球界では東京五輪の前哨戦が延期となった。国際卓球連盟(ITTF)は3月22~29日に韓国・釜山で開催予定だった世界選手権団体戦を6月21~28日に延期すると発表。21日に予定通り開催すると表明していたが、釜山でも感染者が確認されたことを受け、1次リーグの組み合わせ抽選を延期するなど対応を協議。「選手、役員、ファンの健康と安全を最優先に」決定した。同時期に予定されていたワールドツアーの韓国オープン(OP)、オーストラリアOPは日程の変更で調整を進めている。

 卓球界初の金メダルを目指す日本の強化計画も修正を迫られた。既に中国で開催予定だった2月末のアジア杯が延期。3月上旬のカタールOP終了後、4月下旬のジャパンOPまで約1か月半空き、5月の中国OPなども開催されない可能性がある。五輪のシード権に影響する世界ランクを上げる機会は限られ、実戦感覚の不足も心配される。男子日本代表の倉嶋洋介監督は「正直、先が見えない不安はある。一つずつ対応していくしかない。条件は同じなので、選手には目標を持たせて練習していきたい」と語った。

 選手は困惑しつつも、現状を冷静に受け止めた。男子の張本智和(16)=木下グループ=、女子の伊藤美誠(19)=スターツ=は優勝したハンガリーOPから羽田空港に帰国。マスク姿で取材に応じ、伊藤は「安全を考えると(延期は)正しい方法かなと思う」と話し、張本も「少しびっくりしたけど、出られる試合に出てしっかり練習したい」とした。日本協会は合宿を増やすなど、状況に応じた強化を進めていく考えだ。
https://i.imgur.com/zFGUmSd.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/94kLLLF.jpg
In the table tennis world, the rehearsal battle for the Tokyo Olympics has been postponed. The International Table Tennis Federation (ITTF) has announced that it will postpone the World Team Table Tennis Championship originally scheduled for March 22-29 in Busan, Korea to June 21-28. It was announced that the event would be held as scheduled on the 21st, but after the confirmed cases of infection in Busan, discussions have been made regarding the response, such as postponing the draw for the first stage. "Health and safety of players, officers and fans are top priorities." The Korea Open and the Australian Open of the World Tour scheduled for the same period are being adjusted by changing the schedule.

Japan's strengthening plan for the first gold medal in the table tennis world has also been forced to revise. The Asian Cup at the end of February, which was already scheduled in China, has been postponed. After the end of Qatar Open in early March, there is a possibility that about one and a half months will be available until the Japan Open in late April, and it is possible China Open will not be held in May. Opportunities to improve the world ranking that affects the Olympic seeding are limited, and there is concern over the lack of practical match feeling. Japan's men's coach Yosuke Kurashima said, "honestly, I'm worried that I can't see where I'm heading. I have to deal with them one by one. Since the conditions are the same, I want to give the players a goal in practice."

The players calmly perceived the current situation, while being confused. Harimoto Tomokazu (16) = Kinoshita Group = and Ito Mima (19) = Starts = return to Haneda Airport after winning Hungarian Open. In response to the interview with their masks on, Ito said, "I think it's the right way to take safety into account (postponement)." Harimoto said, "I was a little surprised, but I want to practice well in a match that I can play." The Japan Association intends to increase the number of training camps and strengthen in accordance with the situation.

zeio
02-28-2020, 05:34 PM
https://www.tokyo-sports.co.jp/sports/table-tennis/1756725/

【卓球】世界選手権団体戦が延期 張本「練習がよくできる」
2020年02月26日 16時40分

 卓球ニッポンにとって吉か凶か――。感染が拡大する新型コロナウイルスの影響を受けて卓球の世界選手権団体戦(3月22~29日、韓国)の延期も発表されたが、現場は困惑している。

 ワールドツアー・ハンガリーオープン(OP)を終えて25日に帰国した男子代表の倉嶋洋介監督(43)は「今の状況だと、どの大会があってどの大会がなくなるのか全然分からないし、(大会が)なくなっていくことが多くなると思う」と指摘。現時点で6月21日から28日までの代替開催が検討されており、韓国OP(6月16~21日)の中止は必至。オーストラリアOP(同23~28日)も“玉突き”で日程変更となる可能性が高い。

 それだけでなく5月の香港OP、中国OPも開催は厳しい状況。同監督は「本心は怖い。今後、先が見えないし、分からないので。その部分ですごく不安はあるけど、選手にはちゃんと目標を持たせて練習はしていきたい」と胸中を明かした。東京五輪団体戦で中国に続く第2シード確保を目指す男子代表は、試合数が減るとポイント獲得の機会を逃すという問題にも直面する。

 しかし、ネガティブ要素ばかりでもなさそうだ。同代表の張本智和(16=木下グループ)は「逆に言えば、練習がよくできるということ」ときっぱり。さらに最大のライバル・中国勢について「僕たちがどう対策するか分からないと思うし、中国選手も大きな変わりはないと思う。僕たちがたくさん変化して、本番で生かせばこういう状況もプラスになるのかな」と捉えている。

 帰国できない中国代表を日本国内に受け入れることはすでに発表済み。トップ選手のプレーを目にする機会が増えれば、攻略法も幅が広がる。ピンチをチャンスに変えられるか。
Is it good or bad for table tennis Nippon? The postponement of the World Table Tennis Championships (March 22-29, South Korea) has been announced due to the spread of the novel coronavirus, but the scene is confusing.

After returning from the World Tour Hungarian Open (OP) on the 25th, the men's team manager Yosuke Kurashima (43), said, "Given the current situation, I can't tell which tournament will vanish and which one will not but I think the former will become more common." At this moment, alternatives from June 21 to 28 are being considered, and it is inevitable that the Korean OP (June 16-21) will be cancelled. It is highly likely that the Australian OP (23-28) will be rescheduled.

In addition, the opening of Hong Kong OP and China OP in May is grim. The coach said, "I'm scared. I can't see or know where I'm going. I'm very worried about that, but I'd like to keep my players on target in practice." Men seeking to secure the second seed following China at the Tokyo Olympics team event also faces the problem of losing points when the number of matches decreases.

However, it seems that it is not all negative. Harimoto Tomokazu (16 = Kinoshita Group) said, "Conversely, you can practice well." On China, "We don't know what measures we will take, but I don't think the Chinese players are going to change that much. We'll have a lot of variations, if we can put them into practice, then it'll get better?"

It has already been announced that the Chinese representatives who won't return will be accepted in Japan. The more opportunities to see top players play, the wider the strategy. Can you turn a pinch into an opportunity?

zeio
02-28-2020, 05:48 PM
Reporters are required to wear masks and stay 3 meters away from players.

https://www.chunichi.co.jp/chuspo/article/sports/news/CK2020022502100131.html

 23日まで行われたハンガリー・オープンに出場していた張本智和(木下グループ)はこの日帰国。新型コロナウイルス対策として、報道陣はマスク着用の上、選手から3メートル以上離れての取材を厳命された。張本は世界選手権が五輪直前に変更されたことについて、「2カ月の間に2つの大きな大会がある。ことしは、その2カ月に懸ける気持ちで出し切りたい」と決意を新たにした。

Ito feels there will be less and less tournaments before the Olympics.

https://www.chunichi.co.jp/chuspo/article/sports/news/CK2020022502100130.html

 23日まで行われたハンガリー・オープンで女子シングルスを制した伊藤美誠(みま、19)=スターツ=はこの日、羽田空港に帰国。「今後、どうなるかわからない。どの大会が中止や延期になるのか。五輪前の試合数は減ると思う」と複雑な心境を吐露した。

https://www.tokyo-sports.co.jp/sports/table-tennis/1756437/
https://i.imgur.com/CRAC1pa.jpg

zeio
02-28-2020, 06:07 PM
JNT: We'll take you in, if you need a place to stay after Qatar Open.
CNT: So nice of you, we'll consider it.
(COVID-19 spreads in Japan, South Korea, Iran, Italy...)
LGL: Maybe we should go home.

Vlad Celler
02-28-2020, 06:08 PM
In the rating confrontation between LSW - ITO, the situation with the cancellation of ITTF tournaments favors ITO ....Even if LSW wins Qatar, it will not come forward ....And then - Japan .... Will the CNT return home after Qatar?

zeio
02-29-2020, 08:18 AM
https://www.nikkansports.com/sports/news/202002290000326.html

卓球中国代表の日本受け入れ計画を自治体が断念
[2020年2月29日13時29分]

日本卓球協会は新型コロナウイルスの感染拡大で帰国できず、海外で調整を続けている中国選手団を日本国内に受け入れる計画をいったん断念する。29日、協会関係者が明かした。受け入れ予定だった自治体が、昨今の状況変化を考慮し、方針を転換したことが理由。

協会関係者によると中国代表チーム約50人は、1月中旬に中国を出国し、同28日から2月2日まで行われたドイツオープン(OP)に出場。その後、中国卓球協会から帰国しないよう通達があり、現在は次戦があるカタールで調整を続けている。

日本協会関係者は受け入れ理由について「自分たちの仲間。困った人たちが目の前にいたら助けたいと思うのが当たり前」と話していた。一方で当初から「日本でこれ以上の感染拡大が起きれば、受け入れが難しくなることもあるだろう」と話していた。
The Japan Table Tennis Association has abandoned plans to accept the Chinese team, which has been unable to return home due to the spread of the novel coronavirus and has been continuing to adjust overseas, to Japan. An official of the association revealed on the 29th. The reason was that the local government, which had been scheduled to accept it, changed its policy in consideration of recent changes in the situation.

According to officials from the association, about 50 Chinese national team members left China in mid-January and participated in the German Open (OP) held from 28th to February 2nd. Since then, a notice has been issued not to return by the China Table Tennis Association, and adjustments are currently being made in Qatar, where the next stop will be.

An official of the Japan Association said, "They are our friends. It is natural that people who are in need of helping if they are in front of them are inevitable." On the other hand, from the beginning, he said, "If Japan spreads further, it might be difficult to accept it."

https://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXLSSXK60217_Z20C20A2000000/

卓球中国代表の受け入れ難航 新型コロナで自治体断念
新型コロナ
2020/2/29 12:55

新型コロナウイルスの感染拡大により中国に帰国せず海外で調整を続ける卓球同国代表を、日本に受け入れる計画が難航していることが29日、分かった。政府がイベント自粛や全国の小中高校などに臨時休校を要請する中、当初受け入れ予定だった自治体が断念した。日本卓球協会関係者が明らかにした。

中国代表チーム約50人は1月にドイツでの大会に向けて出国後、中国協会から帰国しないよう促され、現在は3月上旬に国際大会が行われるカタールで調整している。チーム内に発熱などの症状は出ていないという。

受け入れ計画を進めていた日本協会は今後も中国チームと連携しながら支援策を探る。関係者は「われわれは(協力を)諦めてはいない」と話した。〔共同〕
The plan to accept China table tennis national team, who continues to adjust overseas without returning to China due to the spread of the novel coronavirus, has proven to be difficult on the 29th. While the government requested self-restraint of activities and temporary closure of elementary and junior high schools around the country, the local government, which was originally scheduled to accept it, was abandoned. Officials of the Japan Table Tennis Association revealed.

After leaving China for the tournament in Germany in January, about 50 Chinese national team members have been encouraged not to return by the Chinese Association, and are now adjusting in Qatar, where the World Tour will take place in early March. There are no symptoms such as fever in the team.

The Japanese Association, which had been promoting the acceptance plan, will continue to seek support measures in cooperation with the Chinese team. An official said, "We have not given up (cooperation)." 〔Kyodo News〕

MaLin2.0
02-29-2020, 08:21 AM
https://www.nikkansports.com/sports/news/202002290000326.html

The Japan Table Tennis Association has abandoned plans to accept the Chinese team, which has been unable to return home due to the spread of the novel coronavirus and has been continuing to adjust overseas, to Japan. An official of the association revealed on the 29th. The reason was that the local government, which had been scheduled to accept it, changed its policy in consideration of recent changes in the situation.

According to officials from the association, about 50 Chinese national team members left China in mid-January and participated in the German Open (OP) held from 28th to February 2nd. Since then, a notice has been issued not to return by the China Table Tennis Association, and adjustments are currently being made in Qatar, where the next stop will be.

An official of the Japan Association said, "They are our friends. It is natural that people who are in need of helping if they are in front of them are inevitable." On the other hand, from the beginning, he said, "If Japan spreads further, it might be difficult to accept it."

https://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXLSSXK60217_Z20C20A2000000/

The plan to accept China table tennis national team, who continues to adjust overseas without returning to China due to the spread of the novel coronavirus, has proven to be difficult on the 29th. While the government requested self-restraint of the activities and temporary closure of elementary and junior high schools around the country, the local government, which was originally scheduled to accept it, was abandoned. Officials of the Japan Table Tennis Association revealed.

After leaving China for the tournament in Germany in January, about 50 Chinese national team members have been encouraged not to return by the Chinese Association, and are now adjusting in Qatar, where the World Tour will take place in early March. There are no symptoms such as fever in the team.

The Japanese Association, which had been promoting the acceptance plan, will continue to seek support measures in cooperation with the Chinese team. An official said, "We have not given up (cooperation)." 〔Kyodo News〕

What does this all mean?

China team. Chance might not be able to play in Japan?

zeio
02-29-2020, 08:33 AM
A week or so ago, JTTA extended their hands to the CTTA, saying they could take the CNT in after the Qatar Open until Tokyo 2020. LGL didn't turn it down but also said staying in Japan is one option, with other places in consideration. German TTA and Austrian TTA have also extended their hands.

Now that Japan, South Korea, Iran, Italy and many others have an outbreak, the plan is down the drain. No place is safe now. No one knows what will come next.

https://sports.sina.com.cn/others/pingpang/2020-02-22/doc-iimxyqvz4891370.shtml

  刘国梁说:“据了解,此前日本确实在国乒考虑的范围内,东京训练场馆的条件、之后日本公开赛以及东京奥运会的举行,都是日本集训的优势所在。不过日本仅仅是国乒奥运集训地计划中的其中一个选择,国乒还在考察和联络其他国家和地区的集训场地,也一直在关注各地疫情发展和控制情况。最终釜山世乒赛后国乒前往哪里集训,还要看集训地疫情的情况,确保队员们在最安全的环境下,平安备战东京奥运会。”

https://sports.sina.com.cn/others/pingpang/2020-02-21/doc-iimxyqvz4744275.shtml

  自新冠肺炎疫情出现以来,已经有包括德国乒协和奥地利乒协在内的多个组织表示,欢迎中国乒乓球队前去集训。目前,国乒正在卡塔尔多哈全力备战接下来的卡塔尔公开赛和釜山世乒赛。

MaLin2.0
02-29-2020, 08:46 AM
A week or so ago, JTTA extended their hands to the CTTA, saying they could take the CNT in after the Qatar Open until Tokyo 2020. LGL didn't turn it down but also said staying in Japan is one option, with other places in consideration. German TTA and Austrian TTA have also extended their hands.

Now that Japan, South Korea, Iran, Italy and many others have an outbreak, the plan is down the drain. No place is safe now. No one knows what will come next.

https://sports.sina.com.cn/others/pingpang/2020-02-22/doc-iimxyqvz4891370.shtml


https://sports.sina.com.cn/others/pingpang/2020-02-21/doc-iimxyqvz4744275.shtml

What's your opinion, is Tokyo 2020 in doubt right now? Think event might be called off?

zeio
02-29-2020, 09:06 AM
As reported by the Japanese media, the folks at JOC intend to "force their way through (https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?22819-Caronavirus-amp-Tokyo-2020&p=307278&viewfull=1#post307278)", citing they've spent so much money now for it to be postponed or cancelled. The IOC says it's still too soon to call it off.

Personally, I want it to go ahead as planned. But given the situation now, I'm not so sure. If it doesn't get contained around much of the world by April or May at the latest, then expect the worst to happen. If postponed, the IOC says it will take place in the same time period in 2021. Honestly, I think cancellation will be more likely.

Either way, even if it doesn't get postponed or cancelled, the damage has been done. This year is screwed.

MaLin2.0
02-29-2020, 09:14 AM
As reported by the Japanese media, the folks at JOC intend to "force their way through (https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?22819-Caronavirus-amp-Tokyo-2020&p=307278&viewfull=1#post307278)", citing they've spent so much money now for it to be postponed or cancelled. The IOC says it's still too soon to call it off.

Personally, I want it to go ahead as planned. But given the situation now, I'm not so sure. If it doesn't get contained around much of the world by April or May at the latest, then expect the worst to happen. If postponed, the IOC says it will take place in the same time period in 2021. Honestly, I think cancellation will be more likely.

Either way, even if it doesn't get postponed or cancelled, the damage has been done. This year is screwed.

That doesn't sound like a bad option 2021 being postponed, gives everyone more time, but saying so the hassle to eg, flights and people might lose out on existing flights being non refundable, hopefully few months of monitoring can better decide what is best step to take

Takkyu_wa_inochi
02-29-2020, 09:28 AM
yes in in 2months time it will be clearer if this is a Spanish-flu-like pandemic or if it will do limited damage. I think it doesn't depend only on the virus but also in the way we react to it, like the numbers suggest (serious action in China == exponential growth stopped - no action elsewhere == rapid spreading)

Also China winning a battle against the virus doesn't mean winning the war.

zeio
02-29-2020, 10:02 AM
It appears folks in Japan are starting to suspect their cases are being un(der)reported. You don't have it if you don't get tested, right?

zeio
02-29-2020, 10:59 AM
South Korea has been forced to pull out of Qatar Open because of the 14-day quarantine imposed by the local government.

http://www.donga.com/news/article/all/20200229/99938229/1

코로나19에 막힌 한국 탁구, 카타르오픈 출전 포기

한국 탁구대표팀이 카타르 오픈 출전을 포기했다.

김택수 감독이 이끄는 한국 탁구대표팀은 오는 3월 1일 새벽 카타르항공을 통해 카타르로 출국 예정이었다.

그러나 카타르 정부는 중국, 한국 등에서 온 외국인의 경우 14일간 격리한다는 조치를 취하고 있다. 이에 대표팀은 여러 경로를 통해 대회 참가를 타진했지만, 결국 카타르행이 어렵다고 판단해 불참을 결정했다.

김택수 감독은 “진천선수촌에서 짐을 싸들고 나와서 공항에 가다가 다시 돌아왔다. 대한탁구협회, 대사관 등이 노력했는데 쉽지 않았다”고 아쉬움을 드러냈다.

이어 “카타르 오픈에 못 나간다는 것은 생각도 못했다. 많이 당황스럽다. 사태가 지속돼 몇 개월 경기를 못하면 실전 감각이 많이 떨어질까봐 우려스럽다. 4번 시드 경쟁국들 중 우리만 대회를 못 나가 손해가 클 것 같아서 걱정스럽다”고 토로했다.

카타르 오픈은 도쿄올림픽을 앞두고 실전 감각을 쌓기 위한 중요한 무대이다. 이 대회 혼합복식 우승, 준우승 조는 올림픽 진출권을 획득할 수 있다.
Korea table tennis blocked by COVID-19, forced to abandon Qatar open
Nusis input 2020-02-29 18:36 edit 2020-02-29 18:37

The Korean table tennis team has abandoned the Qatar Open.

The Korean table tennis team, led by Kim Taek-soo, was scheduled to leave Qatar via Qatar Airways on March 1 at the start of the day.

However, the Qatar government has taken measures to quarantine foreigners from China and South Korea for 14 days. The team decided to participate in the competition through several channels, but eventually decided not to go to Qatar.

Kim Taek-soo said, “I packed my luggage at Jincheon athletes' village, went to the airport, and came back. The Korean Table Tennis Association and the Embassy tried, but it was not easy. ”

“I didn't think I couldn't go to Qatar Open. Very shocked here. I am worried that if the situation persists and I do not play for a few months, my sense of competition will diminish. It's worrying that we're the only 1 of the top 4 seeding competitors that can't participate, so it's a big loss.”

The Qatar Open is an important stage to build a sense of action ahead of the Tokyo Olympics. The winner and runner-up of mixed doubles can win the ticket for the Olympics.

[Seoul = Newsys]

https://news.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2020/02/28/2020022802833.html

'코로나19 직격탄' 탁구 김택수호도 카타르오픈 입국 '비상'[단독]
스포츠조선=전영지 기자

"맞습니다. 비상입니다. 카타르 정부가 입국을 막고 있다고 합니다."
28일 수화기 너머 들려오는 박창익 대한탁구협회 부회장의 목소리는 다급했다. 국제탁구연맹(ITTF) 카타르오픈 출전이 어려운 것이 맞느냐는 질문에 "맞다. 어려운 상황"이라고 답했다. 지난 26일 복싱 대표팀의 요르단 입국 거부 해프닝이 탁구대표팀에서 또 한번 재현될지 모른다는 우려가 흘러나오고 있다.
카타르 정부가 지난 25일부터 한국, 중국, 이란을 방문해 입국한 외국인의 경우 14일간 일괄적으로 격리시설로 이송하는 조치를 취하고 있는 상황, 당장 5일 시작되는 대회에 나서야 하는 남녀 탁구대표팀에 큰 악재가 닥쳤다. 플래티넘급 월드투어 대회로 높은 랭킹포인트가 주어지는 카타르 오픈은 도쿄올림픽을 앞둔 각국 대표팀에게 매우 중요한 대회다. 특히 이 대회 혼합복식 우승, 준우승조에는 올림픽 자동 진출권이 주어진다.
카타르탁구협회는 코로나19 바이러스가 창궐중인 한국 선수들의 입국에 미온적인 태도로 일관하고 있다. 국제탁구연맹(ITTF)은 최악의 경우 '노쇼(No show)'에 대한 페널티를 감면해주겠다는 입장이다. 대표팀에게는 페널티나 돈이 문제가 아니다. 특히 도쿄올림픽 결승 진출을 목표 삼고 있는 김택수 감독의 남자대표팀은 올림픽에서 유리한 상위 시드 배정을 위해 카타르오픈 출전이 반드시 필요한 상황이다.
김택수 감독은 "너무 당황스럽고 힘들다. 카타르오픈에 나서지 못할 경우 랭킹 손실이 엄청 크다. 작년에 받은 포인트가 다 깎여나가는 것과 같다"고 설명했다. "이번 대회에는 혼합복식 올림픽 티켓도 걸려있다. 우리 혼복 2개조(장우진-신유빈, 이상수-최효주) 중 한 조라도 결승에 올라가게 되면 올림픽에 자동진출한다"고 대회의 중요성을 거듭 강조했다. "카타르오픈이 불발될 경우 4월까지 국제경기도 없어 경기감각도 떨어진다. 아시아 대륙 티켓이 걸린 4월 태국 아시아선수권도 어떻게 될지 불투명하다"고 했다. "중국, 일본, 독일 등 경쟁국들이 모두 나가 포인트를 따는데 우리만 못따게 되면 당장 4번 시드도 위태롭다. 랭킹포인트가 부족해 5위 밖으로 떨어질 경우 8강에서 '세계 최강' 중국을 조기에 마주칠 가능성이 높아진다"며 우려를 표했다.
남녀탁구대표팀은 복싱대표팀의 요르단 입국 사례를 참조해 26일 충북 음성군 태성병원에 가서 선수, 스태프 전원이 '코로나19' 검사를 마쳤다. 김 감독은 "카타르에서 입국을 제한할 경우 입증할 자료로 코로나19 음성 영문 진단서를 다 받아놨다. 우리뿐 아니라 배드민턴, 유도, 펜싱 등 많은 종목들이 코로나 검사를 마쳤다"고 덧붙였다. 박창익 대한탁구협회 부회장은 "카타르오픈 출전을 위해서는 1일 출국해야 한다. 시간이 촉박하다. 카타르 정부는 한국 입국자 전원을 14일 격리하는 원칙을 고수중이다. 유승민 회장과 관계자들이 ITTF, 대한체육회, 문체부, 외교부 등 모든 채널을 가동해 해결을 모색중이다. 우리 선수들의 카타르오픈 출전을 위해 최선을 다하겠다"는 의지를 전했다.
올림픽의 꿈 하나로, 4년간 앞만 보고 달려온 국가대표 선수들이 '코로나19' 위기속에 흔들리고 있다. 개인이나 협회의 힘만으로는 턱없이 부족하다. 문체부, 외교부 등 정부 유관부서의 적극적인 협업과 해결 노력이 필요한 시점이다. 전영지 기자 [email protected]
'Corona 19 Direct Attack' Table Tennis Kim Taek-Shodo enters Qatar Open 'emergency'
Sports Chosun

"That's right. It's an emergency. The Qatar government is said to be blocking entry."
The voice of Park Chang-ik, the vice-chairman of the Korean Table Tennis Association, was heard over the phone on the 28th. When asked whether it was difficult to compete in the International Table Tennis Federation (ITTF) Qatar Open, he answered, "Yes, it is a difficult situation." There is concern that the boxing team's refusal to enter Jordan on May 26 may be repeated on the table tennis team.
Foreigners who have visited Korea, China, and Iran since the 25th have been taking measures to transfer them to quarantine facilities for 14 days. The bad news is that the table tennis team has to start the tournament on the 5th. Has come. The Qatar Open, with high ranking points for the Platinum World Tournament, is very important for national teams ahead of the Tokyo Olympics. In particular, the championship of the mixed doubles and runner-up will be given the right to compete in the Olympics.
The Qatar Table Tennis Association is consistently lukewarm about the entry of Korean athletes with the outbreak of the Corona 19 virus. The International Table Tennis Federation (ITTF) is in a position to reduce the penalty for 'no show' in the worst case. Penalties and money are not a problem for the national team. In particular, Kim Taek-soo's men's team, which is aiming to advance to the Tokyo Olympics, is indispensable for the Qatar Open in order to place the top seed in the Olympics.
Kim said, "It's very embarrassing and difficult. If I can't open Qatar, the ranking loss is huge. It's like losing all the points I received last year." "The tournament also has tickets for mixed double Olympics. If any one of the two sets of our mixed suits (Jang Woo-jin, Shin Yu-bin, Lee Sang-soo, Choi Hyo-ju) goes to the finals, they will automatically enter the Olympics." "If the Qatar Open fails, there will be no international competition until April. There is no sense in the game. It is not clear what will happen to the April Asia Championships in Thailand, where the Asian continental tickets are held." "China, Japan, Germany and other competitors all go out to win points, but if we can't win, we'll be seeding 4 times. The likelihood is high. "
The men's and women's table tennis team went to Taeseong Hospital, Eumseong-gun, Chungbuk on the 26th, referring to the boxing team's entry into Jordan, and all the players and staff completed the 'Corona 19' test. Kim added, "I have received all the Corona 19 negative English certificates as proof to prove that if I am restricted from entering Qatar. Many of my sports, including badminton, judo and fencing, have completed corona tests." Park Chang-ik, the vice-chairman of the Korean Table Tennis Association, said, “You must leave the country in order to compete in Qatar Open. The time is short. We are trying to solve all the channels including the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. We will do our best to play Qatar open for our players. "
As one of the Olympic dreams, the national team players who have been running for four years are shaking in the 'Corona 19' crisis. The power of an individual or association alone is not enough. It is time for active collaboration and resolution efforts by relevant government departments such as the Ministry of Education and Foreign Affairs. Former reporter [email protected]

igorponger
02-29-2020, 12:30 PM
Russian Honorary Academician, he claims the Corona epidemic till the end of the year 2020, it is much like the Spain Flu of 1918 to massacre 50 millions.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT4NWXTzhas

There is a growing need for the Tokyo Olympics to be postponed for 2021.

Takkyu_wa_inochi
02-29-2020, 12:40 PM
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3052966/chinese-laboratory-first-shared-coronavirus-genome-world-ordered

this is not going to stop the rumours

Janard
02-29-2020, 01:44 PM
Wow, I wonder if the Singaporean, Japanese, Italian and Hong Kong athletes will be subjected to the same restrictions, or more rigorous tests upon touchdown. I mean, these are countries at the top of the chart.

zeio
02-29-2020, 01:59 PM
In another article, it's said the lab got the permit to continue research 10 days later. Hmm...

https://www.upmedia.mg/news_info.php?SerialNo=82338

zeio
02-29-2020, 02:56 PM
In another news, Harimoto said something rather interesting in an interview with Fuji TV after winning the Hungarian Open.

zeio
02-29-2020, 03:42 PM
Wow, I wonder if the Singaporean, Japanese, Italian and Hong Kong athletes will be subjected to the same restrictions, or more rigorous tests upon touchdown. I mean, these are countries at the top of the chart.

Qatar confirms its first case. Welcome to the club.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/02/coronavirus-outbreak-bigger-latest-updates-200228232914773.html

zeio
03-01-2020, 10:16 AM
https://sports.sina.com.cn/others/pingpang/2020-03-01/doc-iimxyqvz7002818.shtml

为防止右肘伤势复发 刘诗雯退出卡塔尔公开赛
2020年03月01日 17:54 新浪体育综合

  国际乒联官网显示,刘诗雯退出即将开战的卡塔尔公开赛。据了解原因是:在2月初的德国公开赛期间,刘诗雯右肘伤势复发。她跟随队伍来到卡塔尔后,国乒通过国际乒联副主席、卡塔尔乒协主席卡利尔的联系,在多哈当地为刘诗雯找到了最权威的医院和运动医学专家进行检查,刘诗雯的右肘也打了封闭针。

  通过近期的调整和适应性训练,刘诗雯正在逐步恢复到最佳状态。中国乒乓球女队主教练李隼介绍,针对刘诗雯的伤势,卡塔尔医学专家和国乒外籍康复组、医务组,共同研究了一个疗程的康复训练计划,从确保奥运备战和保护运动员的角度,建议教练组再让刘诗雯恢复一段时间,以防再有伤势复发的危险。(乒乓世界)
To prevent recurrence of right elbow injury, Liu Shiwen withdraws from Qatar Open
March 01, 2020 17:54 Sina Sports

The ITTF official website shows that Liu Shiwen has withdrawn from the upcoming Qatar Open. It is understood that the reason was: during the German Open in early February, Liu Shiwen's right elbow injury recurred. After she followed the team to Qatar, through the contact of Khalil, the Vice President of ITTF and the Chairman of Qatar Table Tennis Association, CNT found the most authoritative hospital and sports medicine expert for Liu Shiwen in Doha for inspection. Liu Shiwen's right elbow received a cortisone shot.

After recent adjustments and adaptive training, Liu Shiwen is gradually recovering to the best state. The head coach of the Chinese women’s table tennis team Li Sun explained that in response to Liu Shiwen’s injury, Qatar medical experts and CNT foreign rehabilitation team and medical team jointly studied a course of rehabilitation training plan. From the perspective of ensuring Olympic preparations and protecting athletes, it is recommended that Liu Shiwen recover for a period of time in case there was another danger of injury recurrence. (Table Tennis World)

https://i.imgur.com/i9s3JZP.png

MaLin2.0
03-01-2020, 10:29 AM
https://sports.sina.com.cn/others/pingpang/2020-03-01/doc-iimxyqvz7002818.shtml

To prevent recurrence of right elbow injury, Liu Shiwen withdraws from Qatar Open
March 01, 2020 17:54 Sina Sports

The ITTF official website shows that Liu Shiwen has withdrawn from the upcoming Qatar Open. It is understood that the reason was: during the German Open in early February, Liu Shiwen's right elbow injury recurred. After she followed the team to Qatar, through the contact of Khalil, the Vice President of ITTF and the Chairman of Qatar Table Tennis Association, CNT found the most authoritative hospital and sports medicine expert for Liu Shiwen in Doha for inspection. Liu Shiwen's right elbow received a cortisone shot.

After recent adjustments and adaptive training, Liu Shiwen is gradually recovering to the best state. The head coach of the Chinese women’s table tennis team Li Sun explained that in response to Liu Shiwen’s injury, Qatar medical experts and CNT foreign rehabilitation team and medical team jointly studied a course of rehabilitation training plan. From the perspective of ensuring Olympic preparations and protecting athletes, it is recommended that Liu Shiwen recover for a period of time in case there was another danger of injury recurrence. (Table Tennis World)

https://i.imgur.com/i9s3JZP.png

That's not good news, as long as it benefits the XD team I suppose not a bad thing, if not right to play then probably good thing in rehab

This ITTF season looks like will turn out to be a potential disaster, I'm big soccer fan too and Champions league lookinh potentially in doubt too same as Euro 2020

Janard
03-01-2020, 10:30 AM
Well, only two explanations then, apart from injury prevention reasons. Either she is really not playing Singles or CNT has decided that it doesn't matter if they are drawn into the same half, whoever can beat anyone at any stage deserves to win.

MaLin2.0
03-01-2020, 10:37 AM
Well, only two explanations then, apart from injury prevention reasons. Either she is really not playing Singles or CNT has decided that it doesn't matter if they are drawn into the same half, whoever can beat anyone at any stage deserves to win.

What's your opinion?
Not playing Singles or Playing singles regardless of rankings?

zeio
03-01-2020, 10:40 AM
I guess Japan Open, Hong Kong Open, and China Open are in jeopardy as well. There are just not enough tournaments left.

In that case, even SYS will have trouble to keep Ito at bay in WR as her points for Japan Open(2250) will expire this June.

MaLin2.0
03-01-2020, 10:49 AM
I guess Japan Open, Hong Kong Open, and China Open are in jeopardy as well. There are just not enough tournaments left.

In that case, even SYS will have trouble to keep Ito at bay in WR as her points for Japan Open(2250) will expire this June.

Yeah I checked the points over 12 months and see that Ito come strong and SYS points over 12 months can dry up with all these major tournaments being cancelled, wonder what ITTF approach will be addressing this issue as puts players at advantage and others at disadvantage

zeio
03-01-2020, 11:02 AM
https://i.imgur.com/9bEVH40.png

Janard
03-01-2020, 12:43 PM
What's your opinion?
Not playing Singles or Playing singles regardless of rankings?

I still think she's the CNT's prime choice for Singles but it really depends on the extent of her injury. Perhaps the postponement and cancelation of Opens and WTTTC will allow her to recover more smoothly, although none of it matters if the Olympics does not go on.


I guess Japan Open, Hong Kong Open, and China Open are in jeopardy as well. There are just not enough tournaments left.

In that case, even SYS will have trouble to keep Ito at bay in WR as her points for Japan Open(2250) will expire this June.

Some people (mainly SYS's fans) theorised that one of the reasons CNT skipped Hungary Open was to create an opportunity for Ito to close the gap with SYS, and eventually for the former to surpass the latter in WR. This will negate any seeding advantage for the Chinese and thus enable the coaches to send LSW and CM, LSW and DN or even CM and DN for Singles without having to explain much about why they decided to drop the second seed (not that they owe it to anyone to do so nor is SYS a shoo-in anyways). Going by this theory, CNT should send LSW and DN and help senpai rise to number 2 seed so that both Chinese players will be in different halves.

Vlad Celler
03-01-2020, 01:24 PM
I still think she's the CNT's prime choice for Singles but it really depends on the extent of her injury. Perhaps the postponement and cancelation of Opens and WTTTC will allow her to recover more smoothly, although none of it matters if the Olympics does not go on.





Some people (mainly SYS's fans) theorised that one of the reasons CNT skipped Hungary Open was to create an opportunity for Ito to close the gap with SYS, and eventually for the former to surpass the latter in WR. This will negate any seeding advantage for the Chinese and thus enable the coaches to send LSW and CM, LSW and DN or even CM and DN for Singles without having to explain much about why they decided to drop the second seed (not that they owe it to anyone to do so nor is SYS a shoo-in anyways). Going by this theory, CNT should send LSW and DN and help senpai rise to number 2 seed so that both Chinese players will be in different halves.


Interesting idea....


(and really feasible ...)

igorponger
03-01-2020, 05:45 PM
Man proposes, and God disposes. So truly saying it is, indeed

Vlad Celler
03-02-2020, 12:52 PM
Qatar Open , Main Dpaw

Preliminary alignment - the starting situation is relatively favorable for Ito ....Meeting with China (HE Zhuojia) at QF .... Unless, of course, before QF you do not need to play with one of the four Chinese women who will qualify ...

(Poor Ishikawa ... R-16 - Wang Yidi ... Quarter-finals - Cheng Meng ...)

zeio
03-04-2020, 04:32 PM
Nagasaki's BH is really fast and furious. Took Lily apart.

Janard
03-04-2020, 04:36 PM
Nagasaki's BH is really fast and furious. Took Lily apart.

Nagasaki vs Yuling please.

NextLevel
03-04-2020, 06:31 PM
Nagasaki's BH is really fast and furious. Took Lily apart.

Which again gives me a new level of respect for Adriana Diaz.

KiwiPong
03-04-2020, 07:42 PM
Nagasaki vs Yuling please.

ZYL is probably shaking with the thought of this lol

NextLevel
03-04-2020, 08:12 PM
ZYL is probably shaking with the thought of this lol

It didn't come to pass...

zeio
03-08-2020, 12:30 PM
Mizutani: Thanks to Ito's serves, taking G1 was a cinch...WCQ had a hard time receiving Ito's serves...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0E15cIxvn8

zeio
03-08-2020, 06:35 PM
After Qatar Open 2020:
https://i.imgur.com/VleuheA.png

April, 2020:
https://i.imgur.com/WZ10pPj.png

Vlad Celler
03-08-2020, 06:48 PM
I believe Mima Ito will be able to keep No. 2 until Tokyo 2020 ....
(and no.1 or no.2 - there is no difference for seeding ...)

apacible
03-08-2020, 08:14 PM
With the Qatar Open possibly being the last World Tour Regular or Platinum event before the Olympics due to the Corona Virus Scare, this might have been everyone's last chance to gain significant WR points for Olympic seeding.

Mixed Doubles
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/cache.php?img=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tabletennisdaily.com%2Fforum%2Fcache.php%3Fimg%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fi.ibb.co%252Ffdjc48t%252FMixed-Doubles-Race-After-Qatar-Open-2020.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

Japan was a huge winner in the Qatar Open in terms of Mixed Doubles as they pretty much secured the 2nd seed in the Olympics, so they won't face China until the final. Of course, some luck played a part. Xu/Liu withdrew, which gave Mizutani/Ito a better chance of winning. At the same time, their main rival for the 2nd seed in Wong/Doo unluckily drew WCQ/SYS in the first round, which prevented them from capitalizing from any possible WR point gain in the absence of the Xu/Liu pair. The Hong Kong pair needs to win at least 2 of the next 3 World Tour events left before the Olympics in order to overtake the Japanese pair, but with the looming cancellations due to the Corona virus and with strong Chinese and Japanese opposition waiting should these tournaments push through, it's a tough road ahead for Hong Kong in securing the 2nd seed.

Women's Singles (See post #1635 (https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?20935-Japan-Women-s-Race-to-Tokyo-2020-Singles&p=308351&viewfull=1#post308351) by Zeio for the full table)
Despite falling short in the final of the Women's Singles event, Ito had a great tournament as winning 3 of her 4 matches against Chinese opponents (I'm including the XD final here) is no easy task. It's funny how less than a year ago, there was a legitimate concern that Ito wouldn't be one of the top 2 highest WR women in Japan and would miss the singles event due to her absence from last year's World Cup and an unlucky WTTC 2019 draw. Now, she'll be WR #2 come April and may even have a chance at WR #1 if she wins Olympic Gold (This will largely depend on if the CNT chooses Chen Meng to play Olympic singles as CM will likely have enough WR points to keep her WR #1 status even if she wins Olympic Silver or Bronze as compared to if she misses the singles event completely)

Speaking of CNT Olympic Selection, with Ito taking WR#2, there's no more incentive for the CTTA to take the two highest WR Chinese players to guarantee the Chinese players are drawn in different halves. Will Ito remain WR #2 come Olympic Time? Most likely. Even if Ito skips all the tournaments until the WTTTC in July, she'll only lose 30 WR points since most of Ito's best performances came from the Swedish Open 2019 onwards. Ito is already ahead of SYS in WR while SYS still faces more WR points deductions since her Japan Open Champion result of 2250 WR points will expire come the Olympics. LSW, DN and WMY will also face WR point deductions and they're already quite far behind Ito. Is this a product of Ito's progression or is the conspiracy theory Janard suggested in post # 1625 of this thread coming into play (https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?20935-Japan-Women-s-Race-to-Tokyo-2020-Singles&p=307489&viewfull=1#post307489)? Whatever the case, at least the CTTA can freely choose who it believes will best win China the Gold without having to worry about Olympic seeding or potential backlash for not taking seeding into consideration.

The FTW, CIC, and Ishikawa Race for 4th seed
Despite being the lowest ranked among the 3 today, Ishikawa is the favorite to get the 4th seed because NONE of her top 8 results will expire come Olympic time. In my opinion, between FTW and CIC, FTW has the best chance of overtaking Ishikawa since she won't incur as many deductions in WR. Furthermore, she only earned 1750 WR points in the 2018 WTTTC, which is really an anomaly since she could have gotten more WR points had Singapore not been upset by Ukraine in the R16. If Singapore can do better and enter at least the last 8 in the July WTTTC, FTW can rack up a lot of points as she'll likely be depended on to win 2 singles matches of every team match. There was a time her WR was so high since she racked up 11 match wins and 2750 WR points from the 2016 WTTTC. That's almost as many WR points awarded to the WTTC/Olympic Champion and Singapore only reached the QF that year! CIC will face more deductions than FTW and has a hefty 2250 WR points from the 2018 WTTTC to defend, so she has a tougher road to the 4th seed. In the end, I'm sure Ishikawa is grateful to Ito for taking out CIC and FTW from the Hungarian and Qatar Opens respectively, and she showed her gratitude by cheering her heart out for Ito and Mizutani in the Mixed Doubles Final and was genuinely happy for them when they finally won.

apacible
03-08-2020, 08:46 PM
Mizutani: Thanks to Ito's serves, taking G1 was a cinch...WCQ had a hard time receiving Ito's serves...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0E15cIxvn8

While watching the match live, I was quite shocked at the number of receive errors by WCQ against Ito's serve. It definitely played a big role in helping Japan secure games 1 and 3.

Some shocking statistics from that match:
In Game 1, Ito served to WCQ 5 times. Of those 5 times, WCQ missed on the receive 4 times while the other receive was a good short push that won the Chinese pair the point.

In Game 3, Ito served to WCQ 3 times. Of those 3 times, WCQ missed on the receive 1 time while the other two receives were bad and led to two 3rd-ball kills by Mizutani.

To be fair to WCQ, this is his first time playing against Ito, so he was not yet accustomed to her serves. Additionally, in doubles, you see the opponent's serve less as compared to in singles play because there are an additional two other players who have to take their turns in serving, so it's more difficult to adjust to a particular player on the opposing pair's serve. Finally, the order of play changes every game, so you can only see a particular player on the opposing pair's serve every other game.

Still, it makes me wonder what could have been had it been Ito in the Youth Olympic Games facing the WCQ/SYS pair instead of Hirano. Then again, Ito's service game at that time wasn't as advanced as today, so maybe the results wouldn't have changed. Besides, Ito's 2018 Swedish Open breakthrough was also a result of Ito missing the Youth Olympic Games and having an extended break from competition to work on her game. Ito's current level may not have been possible had she been chosen to participate in the YOG and forced to forego the additional training to help her reach her current level.

Vlad Celler
03-09-2020, 05:08 AM
As always from Apaсible - very, very good analytics!
:o

zeio
03-09-2020, 10:03 AM
JNT: We'll take you in, if you need a place to stay after Qatar Open.
CNT: So nice of you, we'll consider it.
(COVID-19 spreads in Japan, South Korea, Iran, Italy...)
LGL: Maybe we should go home.

Now that anywhere but China is out of control, CNT has decided to go home.

https://sports.sina.com.cn/others/pingpang/2020-03-09/doc-iimxyqvz8950916.shtml

Janard
03-09-2020, 11:45 AM
Ooh, seems like KNT has revised their Olympics selection policy. Lee/Jeon is slated to make a comeback during the Asian XD Qualifications in April (if it happens). Unless this is just a rumour.

https://www.sohu.com/a/378763210_647205?scm=1002.27140046.0.0-0&spm=smpc.fb-pingpong-home.fd-news.2.1583750646557e9ck7oi

zeio
03-09-2020, 12:04 PM
It's real.

https://news.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2020/03/09/2020030902389.html
https://www.mk.co.kr/news/sports/view/2020/03/247554/
https://www.yna.co.kr/view/AKR20200309172800007

Janard
03-09-2020, 12:41 PM
It's real.

https://news.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2020/03/09/2020030902389.html
https://www.mk.co.kr/news/sports/view/2020/03/247554/

So it's likely gonna be Jeon, Shin and Suh? Choi and Lee will not be included due to nationalistic reasons. Yang should be satisfied with her World Champion status.

zeio
03-09-2020, 02:55 PM
So it's likely gonna be Jeon, Shin and Suh? Choi and Lee will not be included due to nationalistic reasons. Yang should be satisfied with her World Champion status.

More or less. All this fuss over nothing and back to square one (https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?20935-Japan-Women-s-Race-to-Tokyo-2020-Singles&p=299837&viewfull=1#post299837). The logic of having immigrants when you don't see them as your own and want them to represent your country...

Vlad Celler
03-10-2020, 05:48 AM
2020 ITTF World Tour Japan Open postponed due to COVID-19

Vlad Celler
03-10-2020, 07:35 AM
2020 ITTF World Tour Japan Open postponed due to COVID-19
Actually, this means that for the Top-16 WS the results of the April ITTF rating will remain unchanged in May ....

zeio
03-10-2020, 10:05 AM
This is looking bad for CIC. If Hong Kong Open and China Open get postponed as well, there's a big chance CIC will fall behind Ishikawa and FTW in July, if she fails to renew her points(2250 vs 1750 for the other 2) at WTTC Busan.

https://i.imgur.com/K455FhW.png

Vlad Celler
03-10-2020, 10:59 AM
Yes, that's right ... C.I.C. may lose 630 points.... 10825..
But, if not mistaken, F.T. save your points ...old 900 (2019/6) replacement from reserve 900...
11100....

Sali
03-10-2020, 11:41 AM
Yes, that's right ... C.I.C. may lose 630 points.... 10825..
But, if not mistaken, F.T. save your points ...old 900 (2019/6) replacement from reserve 900...
11100....
I think there is possibility that ITTF due to cancelation of turnaments can keep the players score. We are not sure if any competition untill Tokyo will be played. So this would be the best solution.

Vlad Celler
03-10-2020, 01:00 PM
Interesting .... Let's see what ITTF decides ... In principle, this is possible, of course ...

zeio
03-10-2020, 06:32 PM
Mizutani on discrimination at Qatar Open.
https://www.daily.co.jp/general/2020/03/05/0013169966.shtml
https://sports.sina.com.cn/others/pingpang/2020-03-06/doc-iimxyqvz8349235.shtml

Harimoto on losing to CCY.
https://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/20200309/tab20030920490001-n1.html
https://hochi.news/articles/20200309-OHT1T50198.html
https://www.daily.co.jp/general/2020/03/09/0013180394.shtml
https://sports.sina.com.cn/others/pingpang/2020-03-09/doc-iimxxstf7707153.shtml

zeio
03-10-2020, 06:59 PM
https://i.imgur.com/ALxtjGq.gif

zeio
03-15-2020, 02:37 PM
After Oman Open:
https://i.imgur.com/3V7XvQ4.png

April, 2020:
https://i.imgur.com/EIV0WmP.png

Vlad Celler
03-15-2020, 07:12 PM
Interesting ... How will ITTF calculate rating points, for example, in May? In April, there will be no tournaments ...

Even more interesting - how will ITTF consider the June rating? Most likely tournaments in China and Hong Kong will not take place ....Will the old points for 5/2019 be deducted when calculating the June rating?

zeio
03-24-2020, 04:38 PM
Kato: Retire, Ishikawa-senpai. (https://youtu.be/ssc5eLjLoMQ?t=6633)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn9AmhfvOp4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCml6puBrpc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx_5aVvVS3I

apacible
03-24-2020, 05:53 PM
Mizutani posted this on his Twitter account moments after Abe announced the postponement of the Olympics. Haha. Can his health keep up for another year or will JTTA be forced to revise the team and Mixed Doubles lineups? In any case, I'm glad to see that he's still willing to fight to make his 4th Olympics.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/cache.php?img=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FcK9Fjx1%2FMizutani-Old.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

zeio
03-24-2020, 06:06 PM
Once-in-a-lifetime strikethroughs.

https://i.imgur.com/7Ia38nw.png

zeio
03-24-2020, 06:45 PM
https://i.imgur.com/tV0D8ukh.png

https://www.olympicchannel.com/en/stories/news/detail/tokyo-olympic-games-postponed-ioc/

The Olympic Games Tokyo 2020 have been postponed, the International Olympic Committee and Tokyo 2020 Organising Committee announced on Tuesday (24 March).

Originally scheduled to be held from 24 July-9 August 2020, the Games have been moved to next year due to the developing global situation in light of the Covid-19 pandemic. However, they will retain the Tokyo 2020 name.

The announcement came 122 days before the planned Opening Ceremony at the newly-built National Stadium in the Japanese capital.

A joint IOC-Tokyo Organising Committee statement said that following information provided by the World Health Organisation, "the IOC President and the Prime Minister of Japan have concluded that the Games of the XXXII Olympiad in Tokyo must be rescheduled to a date beyond 2020 but not later than summer 2021, to safeguard the health of the athletes, everybody involved in the Olympic Games and the international community."

Vlad Celler
03-24-2020, 07:24 PM
Nevertheless, it is interesting what ITTF will now do with a rating system ....

Will he conserve points received in ITTF tours in 2019 (May - 2019 onwards)?

zeio
03-24-2020, 07:28 PM
As well as the confirmed quota...

karupinkun
03-24-2020, 09:11 PM
Its gonna be interesting if already qualified players have to qualify again for next year. Some original qualifers were last summer and therefore 2 year prior to the olympics.

The same goes for picks of some nations like japan. Do they plan with their original lineup, or start a new race for next year...

Janard
03-25-2020, 03:42 AM
https://i.ibb.co/Bnm7QGh/kasumi-i.jpg (https://ibb.co/kmprwJL)

Senpai: Nani? Do I have to compete for a Singles ticket again?

https://i.ibb.co/Q6nYrT8/Mondial-Ping-Women-s-Doubles-Final-10.jpg (https://ibb.co/2jPcgC8)

LSW: The Olympics better be held before WTTC2021.


https://i.ibb.co/jhmBKFG/800px-Miu-Hirano-ATTC2007-cropped.jpg (https://ibb.co/8MqT3V2)

Hirano: Yes! I'll seize the chance this time.


https://i.ibb.co/yQN9v6q/unnamed.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

ZYL: Watch out CM and LSW. I'm coming for you girls.

Vlad Celler
03-25-2020, 04:24 AM
:o:o:o

MaLin2.0
03-25-2020, 07:32 AM
https://i.ibb.co/Bnm7QGh/kasumi-i.jpg (https://ibb.co/kmprwJL)

Senpai: Nani? Do I have to compete for a Singles ticket again?

https://i.ibb.co/Q6nYrT8/Mondial-Ping-Women-s-Doubles-Final-10.jpg (https://ibb.co/2jPcgC8)

LSW: The Olympics better be held before WTTC2021.


https://i.ibb.co/jhmBKFG/800px-Miu-Hirano-ATTC2007-cropped.jpg (https://ibb.co/8MqT3V2)

Hirano: Yes! I'll seize the chance this time.


https://i.ibb.co/yQN9v6q/unnamed.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

ZYL: Watch out CM and LSW. I'm coming for you girls.

Expect alot of changes, I think fresh teams and names will come out at the end of this pandemic.

Forget rankings. Forget previous results and achievements, prolonged period and absense out of the game creates alot of question marks.

Vlad Celler
03-25-2020, 07:44 AM
Expect alot of changes, I think fresh teams and names will come out at the end of this pandemic.

Forget rankings. Forget previous results and achievements, prolonged period and absense out of the game creates alot of question marks.

Right...

Janard
03-25-2020, 08:22 AM
Expect alot of changes, I think fresh teams and names will come out at the end of this pandemic.

Forget rankings. Forget previous results and achievements, prolonged period and absense out of the game creates alot of question marks.

"Fresh names" like...? So you're expecting all the national teams to nominate new players? Or only the Chinese (not the Japanese I presume since zeio has already posted that the JNT will send the same six players)? Not sure I follow the logic here.

MaLin2.0
03-25-2020, 08:59 AM
"Fresh names" like...? So you're expecting all the national teams to nominate new players? Or only the Chinese (not the Japanese I presume since zeio has already posted that the JNT will send the same six players)? Not sure I follow the logic here.

I think so, names we know most likely already circulating through juniors already training with seniors. You have to agree CNT & JNT training at youth level is exceptional and alot of names just keep popping up.

Look at how fast SYS, WMY, WCQ just came onto the scene for team China? Exceptional at Junior level and transitioned very well at senior level.

Japan omg their Juniors also excellent, what's to say Uda, Hayata, Togami Shunsuke and some others won't overtake Mizutani, Niwa, Kasumi & Harimoto.... If anything Harimoto is getting more pressure from his Japanese juniors right now. I watched Japan national tournament evidence is there.

Chinese Taipei I would of said CYC would be shoe in with recent form, but form will now die off being absent, surely younger replacements being blooded right now.

Im big soccer fan too, will Messi, Ronaldo have the same magic if they are absent a year out of the game at their age?

That's my logic, Players in Asian countries IMO mature alot faster than those of Europe because they are exposed to better training and depth too, it's OK if you don't see eye to eye

zeio
03-26-2020, 10:28 AM
Thought this should've been posted.

Miyazaki assures the 6 players already selected that there will be no changes.

https://world-tt.com/ps_info/ps_report.php?bn=1&pg=HEAD&page=BACK&rpcdno=3263#3263

 3月24日、IOC(国際オリンピック委員会)が東京オリンピック・パラリンピックの1年程度の延期を承認した。
 卓球競技ではすでに男女各3名の代表候補選手が決定しているが、日本卓球協会の宮崎義仁・強化本部長は「私個人としては五輪代表の再選考は考えていない。強化本部メンバーの理解を得て、日本卓球協会の理事会に報告したい。選手選考については強化本部が決定し、理事会に報告することになっている。報告したうえで(再選考は行わないことを)理解していただく」とコメント。代表メンバーは現状のままで、延期となった東京五輪・卓球競技に向けて強化を進めていく構えだ。

https://i.imgur.com/brU9PTY.jpg

And Ito's response to the postponement.

https://world-tt.com/ps_info/ps_report.php?bn=1&pg=HEAD&page=BACK&rpcdno=3266#3266

  東京オリンピック延期の発表を受けて、所属のスターツコーポレーション株式会社が、伊藤美誠選手のコメントを発表した。

以下が、伊藤選手のコメント
「1日も早くウィルス感染が収束し、誰もがスポーツを楽しめる日常に戻ることを願っています。東京五輪開催までの時間を更に充実させ、最高のパフォーマンスを発揮できるよう、これまでと変わらず卓球に打ち込んでいきます。アスリート、応援してくださる人々、大会を支えてくださる方々、皆の心が1つになれるオリンピック。東京、そして世界中に、たくさんの笑顔があふれることを楽しみにしています!」
Here is the comment from Ito
"I hope that the virus infection will converge as soon as possible and that everyone will be able to enjoy sports again. We will continue to enhance the time before the Tokyo Olympics and achieve the best performance. Athletes, people who support us, people who support the tournament, the Olympics will bring everyone's heart together. I look forward to many smiles in Tokyo and around the world!"

MaLin2.0
03-26-2020, 01:42 PM
Thought this should've been posted.

Miyazaki assures the 6 players already selected that there will be no changes.

https://world-tt.com/ps_info/ps_report.php?bn=1&pg=HEAD&page=BACK&rpcdno=3263#3263


https://i.imgur.com/brU9PTY.jpg

And Ito's response to the postponement.

https://world-tt.com/ps_info/ps_report.php?bn=1&pg=HEAD&page=BACK&rpcdno=3266#3266

Here is the comment from Ito
"I hope that the virus infection will converge as soon as possible and that everyone will be able to enjoy sports again. We will continue to enhance the time before the Tokyo Olympics and achieve the best performance. Athletes, people who support us, people who support the tournament, the Olympics will bring everyone's heart together. I look forward to many smiles in Tokyo and around the world!"

Wow that's confidence. Sad the circumstances but hopefully this goes away soon so we can enjoy table tennis again and get back to our normal lives. 2021 hope will be successful games.

apacible
04-03-2020, 10:21 PM
Last April 1st, JTTA announced the players who made the Men's National Team (http://www.jtta.or.jp/Portals/0/images/player/nt_list/20200401_NTmember_M.pdf) and Women's National Team (http://www.jtta.or.jp/Portals/0/images/player/nt_list/20200401_NTmember_W.pdf) for 2020. Each team is comprised of 6 players and the rest are candidates/reserves. Click the hyperlinks above to access the full documents of the Men's and Women's Team, as you may want to copy and paste the Japanese names to Google Translate to get their English Names.

Men's National Team and Candidate Players
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/cache.php?img=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2F59nFtBd%2FJNT-Men-s-April-1-2020.png (https://ibb.co/j5WRBgd)

Women's National Team and Candidate Players
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/cache.php?img=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FwppSkRc%2FJNT-Women-s-April-1-2020.png (https://ibb.co/XFF7QbY)

Japanese Men's Team (6 members and 22 Candidates)
1. Tomakazu Harimoto
2. Koki Niwa
3. Jun Mizutani
4. Yukiya Uda
5. Masataka Morizono
6. Shunsuke Togami

Japanese Women's Team (6 members and 10 Candidates)
1. Mima Ito
2. Kasumi Ishikawa
3. Miu Hirano
4. Hitomi Sato
5. Miyu Kato
6. Hina Hayata

Being a member of the national team has some benefits:

While non-National team players may still enter World Tour events through voluntary participation (with approval from the coaches), the chosen 6 will be sponsored by JTTA, so these players don't need to use their own money to enter tournaments or for travel and accommodations. (Looks like Hayata can save some money this 2020 after a very expensive 2019 haha)
In case the competition director of a World Tour event decides to strictly enforce the "only 6 players per country can participate in singles" rule, priority will be given to the chosen 6 national team members while other players from the same country will be waitlisted.


Some interesting notes:


Maharu Yoshimura, Yuya Oshima, Jin Ueda and Kenta Matsudaira are all not on the National Team nor the List of National Team Candidates. Does this mean that they are no longer going to compete internationally?
While the document for the Men's team generally lists the players by World Ranking, Togami is the notable exception as he made the national team despite being ranked WR113, which means that JTTA feels very strongly about his potential.
The Women's team reserves aren't ranked by World Ranking. Hashimoto is listed above Shibata and more notably, Miyu Nagasaki and Satsuki Odo find themselves 9th and 10th respectively despite being ranked higher than some of the others on the candidate list. Is this supposed to mean anything significant or are the reserves just listed arbitrarily?


It's one thing to make the national team, but I'm looking forward to seeing if the National Team members can make the most of this opportunity given to them when play resumes.

apacible
04-03-2020, 11:22 PM
TV Tokyo released a documentary named "World Table Tennis 2020 Warriors." It mainly focuses on 3 bonds. First is the bond between Ito and Hayata who TV Tokyo considers as Japan's strongest doubles pair. Second is the bond between Hirano and Ishikawa where both have to balance the tensions of fighting each other for an Olympic Singles Spot and working together to form a compatible doubles combination. Last is the bond between Harimoto and Japan Men's Team Head Coach Kurashima. I posted the video here for anyone interested to watch or has time to kill at home given the COVID-19 situation.

Even though the video is available on the Hayata Hina Fans Facebook Page, I decided to post it on Youtube mainly because of the auto-generated captions. This way, those who don't understand Japanese can have it auto-translated to English or to any other language. The translation is far from perfect, but it's better than nothing, and at least it gives you an idea of what is being talked about. (I continue to miss your translations Zeio! :()

My only request is that you don't spread or share the video outside this forum, especially to Japanese forums or channels. TV Tokyo has been notorious for getting many Youtube Channels shutdown, including Zeio's former channel. I don't intend to start a channel, but I would still rather not have to deal with copyright claims as my intent in posting this video is not for profit. This is simply for the benefit of those outside Japan (like you guys) who may be interested in the stories of these players, but have no way to access the video.

Lastly, be sure to read the description of the video on Youtube. If you don't have time to go through the whole video, I put timestamps on portions that I found interesting. It's best you watch the video as soon as you have time to do so as the video may be taken down by TV Tokyo sooner or later.


https://youtu.be/knA6ju1THnA

Tempest/Comet
04-04-2020, 03:47 AM
21130

The dream you see alone is only a dream
The dream you share with someone is reality

Mima "finally found someone"
Hayata "Should we get married?"

Vlad Celler
04-04-2020, 07:50 AM
Thanks a lot, Apacible ...
(I saw this video on Hyata’s fan page on Facebook ... I'm there under the same nickname as here ...)
(And I'm really sorry about Zeio’s closed YouTube channel ....My channel also received a warning, and I stopped it ....)

balazs1234
04-04-2020, 02:41 PM
Even though the video is available on the Hayata Hina Fans Facebook Page, I decided to post it on Youtube mainly because of the auto-generated captions. This way, those who don't understand Japanese can have it auto-translated to English or to any other language. The translation is far from perfect, but it's better than nothing, and at least it gives you an idea of what is being talked about. (I continue to miss your translations Zeio! :()



Thanks for the video! How do you auto translate it to English? I only see the option of auto generated caption in Japanese.
Is it possible to save the captions as transcript?


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

apacible
04-04-2020, 05:48 PM
Thanks for the video! How do you auto translate it to English? I only see the option of auto generated caption in Japanese.
Is it possible to save the captions as transcript?


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Hi balazs1234,

I'll try to guide you step-by-step:


Turn on "CC" or closed captions on the Youtube Video.
Then, click the settings button on the Youtube video. (gear icon) A menu should appear.
From that menu, click the "Subtitles/CC" option. Another menu should appear with the option "Auto-translate."
Click on the "Auto-translate" and then choose "English."


I also provided photos below to guide you. I hope this helps you. If not, feel free to ask more questions.
1.
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/cache.php?img=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FhF74QZM%2F1.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
2.
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/cache.php?img=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FP1cLHMv%2F2.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
3.
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/cache.php?img=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FQcTRd2c%2F3.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
4.
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/cache.php?img=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FjTMvrzb%2F4.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

balazs1234
04-04-2020, 06:14 PM
Thanks a lot apacible!
I normally watch YouTube on an iPad, there is no such option in the iPad app, but I found it in the browser.

Janard
04-09-2020, 03:14 PM
https://i.ibb.co/WcqJVbS/c6fd9b9a1cbc4c8fbcda800e575d942d.jpg (https://ibb.co/CnNGPkx)

Japan commences "Save Harimoto" project lol?

MaLin2.0
04-09-2020, 03:42 PM
https://i.ibb.co/WcqJVbS/c6fd9b9a1cbc4c8fbcda800e575d942d.jpg (https://ibb.co/CnNGPkx)

Japan commences "Save Harimoto" project lol?

What is it about Save Harimoto Project?

Do you mean, Save us from Harimoto at Tokyo 2021?

Takkyu_wa_inochi
04-09-2020, 03:54 PM
its about giving support, including psychological support to a shortlist of 10 medalist hopes. including Harimoto, but also Sunny Brown (featured on the photo) and some others not cited.

It seems that the JSC has a program to train abroad for young athletes but this year due to Coronavirus they will support the athletes at home.

MaLin2.0
04-09-2020, 04:05 PM
its about giving support, including psychological support to a shortlist of 10 medalist hopes. including Harimoto, but also Sunny Brown (featured on the photo) and some others not cited.

It seems that the JSC has a program to train abroad for young athletes but this year due to Coronavirus they will support the athletes at home.

I think most top teams in training well isolated but wonder which team has the edge with current situation

Janard
12-03-2020, 04:15 PM
Senpai: I'm as good (or bad) as CM! Cha!

22574

Seems like Senpai will make it to the SF of the National Champs next year pretty easily.

1/4: Hina Hayata, Sato Hitomi, Sakura Mori, Satsuki Odo...
2/4: Ito Mima, Nagasaki Miyu, Kato Miyu :), Saki Shibata...
3/4: Miu Hirano, Hashimoto Honoka, Kihara Miyu...
4/4: Kasumi Ishikawa, Haruna Ojio, Anka Dezawa...

Takkyu_wa_inochi
12-04-2020, 07:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eigToZI07K0

DIMA v MIMA !!

Dima gives up after 3 minutes !

Takkyu_wa_inochi
12-23-2020, 04:45 AM
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/12/15/national/most-oppose-holding-olympics/

MaLin2.0
12-23-2020, 05:48 AM
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/12/15/national/most-oppose-holding-olympics/

Id be concerned to if was held in my city too. Think will still go ahead or will public pressure be too much?

zeio
12-24-2020, 06:35 AM
And with the scaled-down Olympics, the original team of 7 for the opening and closing ceremonies has been disbanded and replaced. They were invited onboard in July, 2018.

https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/olympic/2020/20201223-OYT1T50066/
https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/olympic/2020/20201223-OYT1T50139/

 来夏に延期された東京五輪・パラリンピックの開閉会式の演出について、大会組織委員会が大幅な簡素化を図る方針であることがわかった。狂言師の野村萬斎さん(54)が統括する7人の演出チームは解散する。野村さんは組織委のアドバイザーにとどまる予定で、23日に記者会見して説明する。

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-12/23/c_139613301.htm

TOKYO, Dec. 23 (Xinhua) -- The Tokyo 2020 organizing committee announced here on Wednesday that Hiroshi Sasaki has replaced actor Nomura Mansai to become the chief executive creative director of next year's opening and closing ceremonies.

Sasaki, director of the flag handover ceremony at the 2016 Rio Olympics, will be responsible for revising the program for next year's opening and closing ceremonies for both the Olympic and Paralympic Games.

The organizers said that the ceremonies will be "in tune with the situation next summer," and will "likely take a simpler and more restrained approach designed to reflect the overall simplification of the Games and the potential need to still consider COVID-19 countermeasures."

https://zh.cn.nikkei.com/politicsaeconomy/politicsasociety/43235-2020-12-24-10-36-55.html

圍繞受新冠疫情影響而推遲到2021年夏季舉行的東京奧運會和殘奧會的開閉幕式,東京奧運會組織委員會(以下稱:東京奧組委)12月23日宣佈,解散由日本狂言師野村萬齋擔任總統籌的演出企劃團隊,起用負責導演殘奧會的創意總監佐佐木宏為新的總統籌。
在2020年3月決定東京奧運會延期後,東京奧組委考慮到削減經費和防控疫情,一直在推動簡辦奧運會。東京奧組委秘書長武藤敏郎在12月23日于東京都內召開的記者會上宣佈,東京奧運會開閉幕式的演出也在從零開始進行重新調整,並解釋説「東京奧組委已得出結論,那就是為了在有限時間內高效推進,需要構建新的體制」。

zeio
12-24-2020, 06:51 AM
One Japanese columnist can't help but writes about the "100% accurate Olympic curse" of the PM stepping down in the Olympic year.

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/6abc0051739a488442104ab1359bf88544c2b845

Political changes will always occur in the year when the Olympics are held in Japan. IKEDA Hayato of the Tokyo Olympics in 1964, SATO Eisaku of the Sapporo Olympics in 1972, and HASHIMOTO Ryutaro of the Nagano Olympics in 1998 all resigned in the year the Olympics were held. ABE Nobuyuki and YONAI Mitsumasa were replaced in 1940, when the year became the "phantom Olympics" in the midst of war. And with ABE Shinzo in 2020, the three prime ministers switched from one to the other. In 2021, Prime Minister SUGA Yoshihide must fight against this 100% hit rate "Nagatacho Jinx".

zeio
12-24-2020, 08:40 AM
Who do humans turn to when worse comes to worst? Kami-sama (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kami-sama).

https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2020/12/24/kiji/20201224s00048000274000c.html

 森会長はコスト削減など大会の簡素化やコロナ対策について説明したが「課題は山積している」と指摘。コロナ対策について「選手、メディア、関係者についてはある程度議論されているが、一番の問題は観衆」とし、世界中で感染拡大が止まらない現状に「無観客となるのか、どれだけ観客を入れられるのか、これは天との勝負。神様がどれだけ味方していただけるかに懸かっている。どんなことになっても、きちんと対応できるように取り組みを進めている」と祈るように語った。
Chairman Mori explained the simplification of the Games such as cost reduction and measures against corona, but pointed out that "there are a lot of problems". Regarding corona countermeasures, "Athletes, media, and related parties have been discussed to some extent, but the biggest problem is the audience." This is a match against heaven. It depends on how much Kami-sama can be on your side. We are working to respond properly no matter what happens, "he said.


At the same time, badminton player MOMOTA Kenta isn't warm to the idea of holding Tokyo 2020 regardless of COVID-19.

https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2020/12/24/kiji/20201223s00086000561000c.html

 出場を確実にしている東京五輪金メダル候補の桃田賢斗(26=NTT東日本)は、新型コロナ収束が見通せない状況での五輪開催について「自分のことだけを考えてはいられないので、何とも言えない」と複雑な心境を明かした。「開催してもらいたい気持ちは選手としては当然ある」としながらも、安全性確保の重要性は感じている。「周りの人たちの気持ちを不安にさせてしまうのは良くない。誰も不安に感じず、ストレスなくできるなら開催してもらいたいし、そうでないなら…という気持ち」と述べた。
Kento Momota (26=NTT East Japan), a gold medal candidate for the Tokyo Olympics, who has been determined to participate in the Olympics, admits that his feelings are very complicated for hosting the Olympics when the end of the new corona is unpredictable. "Because you can’t just think about yourself, so I can't say anything." Although "the athletes certainly have the hope of hosting the Olympics", they also feel the importance of ensuring safety. "It is not good to make people around you feel uneasy. If no one feels uneasy and can do it without stress, I want them to hold it, otherwise..."

Tempest/Comet
12-26-2020, 10:53 PM
Sakura Mori vs Ishikawa in latest T-League 12-2020
11-8 11-0 11-4

Takkyu_wa_inochi
12-26-2020, 11:04 PM
Kasumi must have partied too much LOL

that being said, MORI has been playing very well of late. Last season she was named MVP of the T-League

I've seen also her play in the Champions League and doing well.

Takkyu_wa_inochi
01-10-2021, 08:16 AM
Despite the fact that the PM has declared a state of emergency across the country - which means restaurants / bars / sports centers etc... must close at 8pm and that companies should encourage more telework etc.... -

the national championships are not cancelled and will begin tomorrow

Because of Covid, and the doubles events will be cancelled. There will be no spectactors allowed BUT all the matches will be streamed live

This is the official site
https://www.japantabletennis.com/zennihon2021/

Junior events start from tomorrow and senior events start on Wednesday.

Coach OYA will be #56 and will have to fight from round 2, he was KO'ed early by a junior last year. I hope he will at least reach the game scheduled against a seeded player (Kazuhiro YOSHIMURA)

igorponger
01-22-2021, 04:14 PM
THE TERMINATION OF ISHIKAWA's OLYMPIC HOPES.

The Japanese government has privately concluded that the Tokyo Olympics will have to be cancelled because of the coronavirus, and the focus is now on securing the Games for the city in the next available year, 2032.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/japan-looks-for-a-way-out-of-tokyo-olympics-because-of-virus-lf868xfnd

Takkyu_wa_inochi
02-25-2021, 04:03 PM
in (slightly) related news, it seems that Ai Fukuhara is on the verge of divorcing from Chiang Hung-Chieh (https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&safe=active&rlz=1C5AVSZ_enJP686JP686&sxsrf=ALeKk01fcfUhCz1eTsUVNgycwN58HlWAIg:1614268943704&q=chiang+hung+chieh&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAOPgE-LUz9U3MM3NtSxR4tFP1zc0SksvTquszNGSyE620i9IzS_ISQVSRcX5eVbFBfmlxamLWAWTMzIT89IVMkqBBJCdmrGDlREAVBxKkUwAAAA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiihdi3tIXvAhXFc94KHaNdBpQQmxMoATAXegQIFxAD)
She has 2 children from him and was living with her husband + her mom in Taiwan.

zeio
02-27-2021, 04:59 PM
https://tleague.jp/schedule/detail.php?id=260
https://tleague.jp/schedule/detail.php?id=261

Red Elf beat Kinoshita Abyell in the playoff final 3 times in a row. The way they fielded 裏 Kasumi (https://tleague.jp/player/detail.php?player=30062) instead of 表 Kasumi (https://tleague.jp/player/detail.php?player=30002&year=2020) against Hayata reinforces my verdict (https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?24713-2021-All-Japan-National-Championships&p=335526&viewfull=1#post335526).

OTOH, Ryukyu Asteeda beat Kinoshita Meister to become the champion of season 3. Mizutani skipped the lineup and Harimoto didn't even get to play.

NextLevel
02-27-2021, 09:51 PM
in (slightly) related news, it seems that Ai Fukuhara is on the verge of divorcing from Chiang Hung-Chieh (https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&safe=active&rlz=1C5AVSZ_enJP686JP686&sxsrf=ALeKk01fcfUhCz1eTsUVNgycwN58HlWAIg:1614268943704&q=chiang+hung+chieh&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAOPgE-LUz9U3MM3NtSxR4tFP1zc0SksvTquszNGSyE620i9IzS_ISQVSRcX5eVbFBfmlxamLWAWTMzIT89IVMkqBBJCdmrGDlREAVBxKkUwAAAA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiihdi3tIXvAhXFc94KHaNdBpQQmxMoATAXegQIFxAD)
She has 2 children from him and was living with her husband + her mom in Taiwan.
Hmmm... I sometimes wonder how rich Chiang is. But in my stereotyped view of the world, I have come to accept marriage as being less about the romance that brings some couples together and more about a steady respect built over years of adaptation. Neither guarantees marital stability but the latter definitely comes closer to giving it than the former.

Takkyu_wa_inochi
02-28-2021, 12:19 AM
裏 Kasumi (https://tleague.jp/player/detail.php?player=30062) is playing awesome. i wonder how she would do on the international circuit.

really strong !

Janard
02-28-2021, 04:27 PM
https://tleague.jp/schedule/detail.php?id=260
https://tleague.jp/schedule/detail.php?id=261

Red Elf beat Kinoshita Abyell in the playoff final 3 times in a row. The way they fielded 裏 Kasumi (https://tleague.jp/player/detail.php?player=30062) instead of 表 Kasumi (https://tleague.jp/player/detail.php?player=30002&year=2020) against Hayata reinforces my verdict (https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?24713-2021-All-Japan-National-Championships&p=335526&viewfull=1#post335526).

​​​​​Meanwhile, it looks like Hirano is regaining her form of sorts (especially for doubles)? She must feel vindicated that Hayata's record against this new Kasumi is worse than hers lol.

Takkyu_wa_inochi
03-01-2021, 02:02 AM
by the way  

another way to distinguish them is
裏    表
佳純 vs 香純
石川   木村

zeio
03-01-2021, 07:37 AM
Weakest All-Japan Champ. No kidding. She really said it.

https://rallys.online/topic/tleague/210227kinoshita-ishikawa/

<ビクトリーマッチに出たかったか>

木村さんが(第3マッチで早田ひなに)勝ったので(木村さんが)出るべきかなと思った。結果負けてしまった(10-12)が、あとちょっとの差だったと思うので、それは誰が出てもそんなに変わらないかなと思います。
<Did you want to play the victory match?>

Kimura-san beat Hayata in G3, so I thought she should play it. It ended in defeat, and I think there's still some gap, so I don't think it'd have changed much no matter who played it.

zeio
03-01-2021, 08:38 AM
It's revealed that Hayata was suffering from leg pain in the 2nd half of the season. That's why she took a break this year.

https://hochi.news/articles/20210227-OHT1T50302.html

 前半戦14勝と大活躍した早田は足を痛め、後半戦を全休した。この日が1月の全日本選手権以来約40日ぶりの実戦。ブランクにも苦しみ、第3試合を落としたが、望みをつないだ平野から「ひなちゃん大丈夫だよ、絶対勝てるから」と背中を押され、期待に応えた。

Takkyu_wa_inochi
03-02-2021, 06:06 AM
it all started here


https://www.youtube.com/embed/0Y9TDq8V7m8?autohide=1&controls=1&showinfo=0

Vlad Celler
03-02-2021, 02:17 PM
Main Draw
https://results.ittf.com/ittf-web-results/html/TTE5277/results.html#/knock-outs

zeio
03-02-2021, 02:25 PM
Harimoto:
Ishikawa:

Tell me this is not fixed. 😱

Vlad Celler
03-02-2021, 02:35 PM
R16 - Ishikawa - Hayata?

MaLin2.0
03-03-2021, 03:49 AM
Harimoto:
Ishikawa:

Tell me this is not fixed. 😱
Harimoto has tough run​​, few have decent record against him in his section of the draw, interesting to see how he approaches this tournament that the CNT are absent.

zeio
03-03-2021, 08:06 AM
https://i.imgur.com/M1kmu3f.png
https://rallys.online/topic/tleague/210227nissei-hayata/

国際大会について
海外遠征は久しぶりなので、時差調整やコロナのPCR検査もありますし、いつもと違う感覚で行くことになると思うんですけど、しっかり集中して試合に勝つために自分自身をコントロールしていきたい。

https://i.imgur.com/6O0nFyA.png
Had so much trouble receiving Eerland's serve to her short FH. If not for her own serve...

https://i.imgur.com/KPv3A6I.png
What's taking you gals so long?

https://i.imgur.com/Bj4II2U.png
🤨

zeio
03-04-2021, 06:21 AM
in (slightly) related news, it seems that Ai Fukuhara is on the verge of divorcing from Chiang Hung-Chieh (https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&safe=active&rlz=1C5AVSZ_enJP686JP686&sxsrf=ALeKk01fcfUhCz1eTsUVNgycwN58HlWAIg:1614268943704&q=chiang+hung+chieh&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAOPgE-LUz9U3MM3NtSxR4tFP1zc0SksvTquszNGSyE620i9IzS_ISQVSRcX5eVbFBfmlxamLWAWTMzIT89IVMkqBBJCdmrGDlREAVBxKkUwAAAA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiihdi3tIXvAhXFc94KHaNdBpQQmxMoATAXegQIFxAD)
She has 2 children from him and was living with her husband + her mom in Taiwan.
https://thereadingfangirl.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/in-big-places-small-things-happen.gif

Still, shit just got real. When news of Fukuhara is worth more than news of WTT...

https://i.imgur.com/bHoA7Jf.png

Takkyu_wa_inochi
03-04-2021, 08:12 AM
more than 30mns about it in today's TV noon news program...

Vlad Celler
03-04-2021, 08:21 AM
Ito 3-0 11-7,11-4,11-9

Hirano 1-1 , 4-11,11-6

zeio
03-04-2021, 08:51 AM
Why I never skip a match with Semenova:

https://i.imgur.com/1yjNx1a.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/GM7Fsh6.png
Both missed tons of points on the FH, as if they don't want to advance.

MaLin2.0
03-04-2021, 09:20 AM
Why I never skip a match with Semenova:

https://i.imgur.com/1yjNx1a.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/GM7Fsh6.png
Both missed tons of points on the FH, as if they don't want to advance.
Lot of close matches Team Japan have been in, exciting tournament considering no Team China

zeio
03-04-2021, 09:49 AM
Many of them look tired after the league, but Ito is inexcusable...

7malligk
03-04-2021, 10:09 AM
Is it just me? Or is Hayata playing better than Ito right now?

Vlad Celler
03-04-2021, 10:12 AM
Not yet .... But both are worthy to play in Tokyo!

zeio
03-04-2021, 10:17 AM
Very disappointing performance from a recovering Hayata. I was expecting a shutout against the weakest All-Japan Champ. 😒

How she lost G2 after a 5:0 start...

https://i.imgur.com/IqQ4rln.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/K1HLG05.jpg

Vlad Celler
03-04-2021, 10:36 AM
Very disappointing performance from a recovering Hayata. I was expecting a shutout against the weakest All-Japan Champ. 😒

How she lost G2 after a 5:0 start...

https://i.imgur.com/IqQ4rln.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/K1HLG05.jpg
After 5: 0 I was distracted for a while, and I just did not believe it when I saw 10:12

zeio
03-04-2021, 10:49 AM
JNT: Fairest selection system!
https://www.sankei.com/images/news/210117/spo2101170028-p1.jpg

CNT: 9th gold medal sweep guaranteed!

Sali
03-04-2021, 12:12 PM
Besides young Kihara, all Japnese women played very poor. Maybe they need some time and few more tours to adapt but so far it looks really bad. Worst performances by Hayata and Hirano, they both look very clumsy and heavy.
Ishikawa played her usual performance and Ito is just OK, but she will get better with tougher opponents. I am just thinking how Hayata would win without those fast long serves which coused big troubles for Ishikawa who as usualy do not have powerfull answer for that kind of serve.

zeio
03-04-2021, 12:51 PM
more than 30mns about it in today's TV noon news program...
😅

http://mao.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/pingpong/1611187496/541

541名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2021/03/04(木) 19:18:36.00ID:VcbCDteh
卓球も誰かさんのおかげで昨日あたりから、とんでもない最盛期になってきたからな
こんなに卓球が注目されたのは初めてだよ
リオを超えたわ

zeio
03-04-2021, 02:19 PM
Ishikawa and Hayata fanbois are at full throttle on 5ch. 😂

Ponkotsu, ChenQi Ishikawa, Baum Hayata, sontaku (https://japanology.org/2019/03/chinmoku-sontaku-and-the-uses-of-silence/) draw at All-Japan, Zennoh gotta sponsor WTT...🙈🙉🙊

http://mao.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/pingpong/1611187496/l50
444名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2021/03/03(水) 22:29:24.53ID:P3wUXqHR
明日の早田と石川なら早田が今日よりさらに動きが酷くならなければ早田が3-0か3-1で勝つだろうな
石川の場合は、初見&久々殺しの特徴を活かして、どれだけサーブで点が取れるかだな

446名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2021/03/03(水) 23:04:45.40ID:VlIlMFmO
石川は木村さんの試合を身近に見て早田攻略法を考えて来ていると思う
邱監督もセコンドに入っているから早田の苦戦は必至と見ている

451名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2021/03/03(水) 23:28:52.82ID:h64yl8vQ
早田は怪我が多すぎるよね
そのせいでランキングも上がらない
コンディショニングの仕方、練習の仕方、フォームやフットワークなど、怪我をしないということを一番に考えて見直してほしいわ
いいときのプレーを見ると本当にすごく期待が膨らむけど、それを持続できないのがなあ

474名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2021/03/04(木) 06:44:20.87ID:J8Qxaeqd
>>451
優れたフィジカルトレーナーが必要だけど、プロテニスのような稼ぎはないので、いつも帯同するのは無理。
このまま怪我を繰り返して、「消えた天才」として終わるのか

476名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2021/03/04(木) 10:08:17.97ID:6BlFypzw
早田が勝つにはタイムを自分がマッチポイントを取るまで使わないこと
ファイナルは相手の経験不足に救われたが
リードしていても追い上げられたらバタバタしてしまう弱さは変わってなかった

521名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2021/03/04(木) 18:20:06.56ID:GepphCia
>>517
流石にもう石川は伸びしろが無いだろうな、選手ピークも過ぎてる
東京オリンピックが中止決定したら、次の五輪より前に引退したほうがいい
無理にポンコツ状態で出たとしても福原愛みたいに後の選手に迷惑が掛かるのは避けて欲しい

523名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2021/03/04(木) 18:30:36.25ID:0vS/Hgwy
早田は案の定、バウム早田になっていやがる
昨日のサマラ戦以上に体が動けてない

527名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2021/03/04(木) 18:41:19.35ID:0vS/Hgwy
早田、1人で勝手に自滅して逆転されて1-1
早田は石川には圧勝してるが、自分には完敗してるな

528名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2021/03/04(木) 18:59:50.96ID:oDMibX+w
石川って今が全盛期なんじゃね?

543名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2021/03/04(木) 19:26:26.98ID:Y0oOAK3x
早田、左利きに2連続フルゲーム勝利だが、早田からしたら同じ左利きでもサマラのほうが全然やり難そうにしてたな

早田に同じフルゲーム負けの左利きだがその違いはこちら

サマラ→バウム早田とはいえ、内容や展開ではサマラが上回っていた
    サマラが少し上手くやるか運が良ければ、3-2勝ちおろか3-1勝ちもあり得た

石川→バウム早田が自滅するかしないかで勝負が決まってた
   フルゲームだけど、石川には全く勝ち目がなかった
   試合結果はフルゲームだけど、内容は勝ち目なしの完敗だった

545名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2021/03/04(木) 19:27:48.14ID:68YHwA2a
チェンチー石川が惜しくもバウム早田に負けたか

546名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2021/03/04(木) 19:29:25.50ID:LRzqc/WB
バウムというのはやめろ

547名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2021/03/04(木) 19:29:38.12ID:GepphCia
俺も石川を応援してる、一番好きな選手

だからこそ最後の花道は綺麗に歩いて 
後の卓球界を指導でも実況解説でもなんでも、胸を張ってやれるように現役生活を終えて欲しい
東京五輪がそのベストタイミングだったと思うよ、コロナで残念だったけどね

548名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2021/03/04(木) 19:33:45.80ID:odqiIIGi
やっぱこれからの女子は伊藤早田で引っ張っていく時代だな

549名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2021/03/04(木) 19:34:26.68ID:AJfqwAl7
やっぱりね😃

289 名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!! sage 2021/03/03(水) 17:16:32.91 ID:DGMKHwr+
石川は早田に絶対勝てない
例え伊藤に完勝するようなバカ当たりの調子でも、早田には勝てない

550名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2021/03/04(木) 19:36:33.27ID:9o3pDEvv>>553>>554>>570
確かに早田オタはうざいから消えて欲しいが、石川オタは石川のレベルと能力の低さを理解してないのとサマラやユーモンユー等の中堅外国人を舐めすぎ
モンユに負けた平野をバカにしてるが、今回の早田じゃもっとボロ負けだったし、石川だってモンユには1番最後の試合では1-4で負けてたから絶対勝てるなんていいきれないはず
サマラが早田を追い込めたのは、早田の調子でんでんじゃなくサマラ自身が威力のある両ハンドをもっていたからであって、バックがザルな石川じゃ早田にもサマラにも勝ち目無しに負ける事なんて少し考えれば、誰でも分かるのに、石川オタはそれを理解しなさすぎ

552名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2021/03/04(木) 19:40:08.82ID:9uroYCPG
石川乙
ドローを恨め
全農にWTTのスポンサーになってもらうしかない

555名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2021/03/04(木) 19:44:35.08ID:B2MTtV82
石川、VMから避けて名誉を守ったのに、結局負けて名誉守れてないじゃん
VMは1セットだから石川でもチャンスはあったし
仮にどの道、負けてても、ちゃんと立ち向かって2連敗するのと、戦いを避けて2敗は免れたが、その後、普通に負けるのではどう考えても後者の方がカッコ悪い
しかもサマラの方が通用してたからよりカッコ悪さが目立つ

556名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2021/03/04(木) 19:46:11.41ID:ChEljkMp
やはり全日本は伊藤VS早田が事実上の決勝戦だった

560名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2021/03/04(木) 19:59:36.29ID:8WvdxgeX>>562
>>557
石川が早田に勝ち目なしに負けてるからでしょ
伊藤と早田、伊藤と平野、平野と早田ならたまには勝敗が違ってくるが、早田と石川は勝敗が早田の勝ちと決まっているのに、早田と当たらない組み合わせになっているからでしょ
今回だって早田がチャンリリーと当たってたら、石川は早田と対戦しないで勝ち進んでいたろうし
さらには、ベスト4でも石川の天敵の1人である左利きのチョンジヒを倒す可能性が高い石川のカモの木原だろうし
石川ほど運の良い選手はいないと思うけどな

564名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2021/03/04(木) 20:08:54.90ID:s2SlifD2
石川、平野ペア対早田木原ペアの対戦も興味深い
ここで負けるようだと石川、平野は精神的にきついだろう

565名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2021/03/04(木) 20:13:34.69ID:BLcLaaBZ>>566
>>557
それとこれとは話が全然ちがうからな
今大会、順当に勝ち上がれば準決で[1]シード伊藤 vs. [4]シード平野で
[2][3]シードのチェンイーチンと石川は別山だ

全日本では[1]早田と[3]伊藤が同山・準決だから言われただけで
WTTの今大会のように本来[1]早田・[4]橋本、[2]石川・[3]伊藤とで別山が普通

まあ、[1]と[3]が準決で会うドローも競技によってはあることはあるが
全日本選手権は明らかに石川と伊藤が決勝まで当たらない忖度ドロー

572名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2021/03/04(木) 20:55:01.47ID:AJfqwAl7
でもちょっとは溜飲が下がったかな
ひなに絶対に勝てない石川がオリンピック代表になって悔しかったたけど、オリンピックは中止になるしw

zeio
03-05-2021, 05:36 AM
https://www.daily.co.jp/general/2021/03/04/0014124984.shtml

国際大会で石川と対戦するのは17年韓国オープン以来3度目だったが、国際舞台では初の“下克上”を果たした。

Ito(first at Czech Open 2017), Hirano(first and only time at Czech Open 2019) and now Hayata(first and also only time at WTT Contender Doha 2021) have beaten Ishikawa once on the international stage. Took long enough. All 3 of them have beaten sempai at the All-Japan, Hirano in 2017, Ito in 2018, Hayata in 2019 and 2020.


https://www.youtube.com/embed/gCN8Zd03-bw?autohide=1&controls=1&showinfo=0

MaLin2.0
03-05-2021, 05:46 AM
https://www.daily.co.jp/general/2021/03/04/0014124984.shtml


Ito(first at Czech Open 2017), Hirano(first and only time at Czech Open 2019) and now Hayata(first and also only time at WTT Contender Doha 2021) have beaten Ishikawa once on the international stage. Took long enough. All 3 of them have beaten sempai at the All-Japan, Hirano in 2017, Ito in 2018, Hayata in 2019 and 2020.


https://www.youtube.com/embed/gCN8Zd03-bw?autohide=1&controls=1&showinfo=0
Japanese Girls have plenty upside. Hina Hayata will break into top10. Youth training system definitely showing results

Janard
03-05-2021, 08:44 AM
If only YMY (national pride?) and Suthasini wasn't in a separate quarter of their own, the semis could have become another All Japan Championship (sans senpai).

Jeon is the only koala in play, although she left the assassinate-ito training camp the earliest.

Sali
03-05-2021, 12:10 PM
From the last 28 points Kihara took 20 of them after trailing 2:6 in set 4, big turnover.

zeio
03-05-2021, 01:29 PM
Hayata went from not knowing pips to dissecting pips with surgical precision. https://i.imgur.com/hyjkX52.jpg

zeio
03-05-2021, 01:50 PM
Hilarious comment on youtube live stream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDfhf7esxZE

https://yt4.ggpht.com/ytc/AAUvwnjdNrotO6qFtEMClK_9dyFF0cW3l8WqX6wxpQ=s64-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj9:46 PMLast Mission​言い方悪いけど、シングルス敗北組vsシングルス勝利組。
Even though it sounds inappropriate, singles losing pair vs singles winning pair.

zeio
03-05-2021, 03:48 PM
If only YMY (national pride?) and Suthasini wasn't in a separate quarter of their own, the semis could have become another All Japan Championship (sans senpai).

Jeon is the only koala in play, although she left the assassinate-ito training camp the earliest.


😆
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/--9g9A5JRImU/WKOpzQDr4fI/AAAAAAAAA8U/SPMFd8fy1gYj6v3EENwdLfTTfqLm2Uh1QCLcB/s400/16114738_1203535333066191_4732510846906903640_n.png

zeio
03-06-2021, 06:56 PM
https://mao.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/pingpong/1611187496/745-844
767名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2021/03/06(土) 14:13:45.07ID:GhdCzOZ2
とりあえず伊藤早田の日本ツートップの決勝で一安心
これが石川平野の決勝とかだったら目も当てられなかった
So long as it's a final between Ito and Hayata who are Japan's top 2, then I'm relieved
If it were a final between Ishikawa and Hirano, then zero expectations

774名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2021/03/06(土) 15:12:50.46ID:IZgBsXmM>>775
>>767
早田ヲタ乙w
伊藤はともかく早田がツートップとか 笑わせんな
Hayata Otaku B LOL
Putting Ito aside, Hayata is top 2? Don't make me laugh

775名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2021/03/06(土) 15:42:06.76ID:soNh7q3g>>776
>>774
まあ少なくとも2番手は平野だよな
バウム早田にすら勝てない石川が2番手なわけないからな
全盛期石川なんて歴代の日本トップ内でも最弱で、全盛期の福原どころか全盛期の梅村や平野鬼や藤沼よりも弱いレベル
Hirano is at least the no. 2, right?
Ishikawa who can't even beat Baum Hayata can't be no. 2, can she?
Prime Ishikawa is also the weakest among the Japan's top players in history, weaker than prime Fukuhara, prime Umehara, prime Oni Hirano[Sayaka Hirano's nickname] and prime Fujinuma

776名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!!2021/03/06(土) 15:51:42.08ID:AwNWXIxg
>>775
藤沼はともかく平野鬼には最後の対戦では、全盛期の石川が全盛期過ぎの老平野鬼に負けてるじゃん
しかも老平野鬼は同士討ち最弱でジュニア時代のミウミマヒナの3人全員に負けてる他、無名高校生や大学生にすらボロ負けしてるから老平野鬼が同士討ち強い内弁慶とも言えないし
しかも平野鬼は福原や伊藤やカットマンほどじゃないにしてもプラボールにより弱体化してる
Fujinuma aside, in the final battle against Oni Hirano, heyday Ishikawa lost to the washed-up Oni Hirano
Moreover, the washed-up Oni Hirano is the weakest up against teammates and has lost to all 3 of the then-junior Miu/Mima/Hina, and even lost to the unknown high school students and college students, so it can not be said that the washed-up Oni Hirano is a strong uchi benkei (http://selectivemutism-mm.blogspot.com/2008/04/uchi-benkei.html) against teammates.
Moreover, Oni Hirano is weakened by the plastic balls, if not as much as Fukuhara, Ito, and choppers.


https://www.youtube.com/embed/uSS80W1nilE?autohide=1&controls=1&showinfo=0


https://www.youtube.com/embed/hDtyGVBK53E?autohide=1&controls=1&showinfo=0

https://i.imgur.com/qSpE1r3.jpg

Janard
03-07-2021, 04:08 AM
No men's thread so I'll hijack the women's but can any kind soul briefly summarise what Mizutani-senpai said about XX at 17:12 after 0 wins and 12 losses? Haha, sounds like he's being rather humble here.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/cVWECn53ux8?autohide=1&controls=1&showinfo=0

zeio
03-07-2021, 04:31 AM
He talked about how he lost to XX in the previous encounter after having a big lead, how he had to take revenge on XX in the same way.

Teruised
03-07-2021, 06:00 AM
Come on, have good results

zeio
03-10-2021, 07:53 AM
It
https://i.imgur.com/vqkhWXM.jpg
should've
https://i.imgur.com/BYL5CZX.jpg
been 3-0
https://i.imgur.com/ZXskPs3.jpg

So
https://i.imgur.com/AAIcEKn.jpg
many
https://i.imgur.com/xELv1Rd.jpg
nets and edges
https://i.imgur.com/g6wSAhA.jpg

Janard
03-10-2021, 07:56 AM
o_O Can senpai pull off the unimaginable?

CIC: 8201
Ishikawa: 7805

Difference of 396 points. Seems like senpai has to make it to the finals (+420 or 600) to have any chance of overtaking CIC after her teammate Hayata very helpfully removed the second seed.

zeio
03-10-2021, 07:58 AM
Despite the win, Hayata didn't play that well in this match. Took way too many unnecessary risks, especially when serving. Served too many topspin and long. That backspin jab serve got her many points. Should've served more when it got tight.

Vlad Celler
03-10-2021, 10:49 AM
o_O Can senpai pull off the unimaginable?

CIC: 8201
Ishikawa: 7805

Difference of 396 points. Seems like senpai has to make it to the finals (+420 or 600) to have any chance of overtaking CIC after her teammate Hayata very helpfully removed the second seed.

CIC - 8201 + 55 = 8256
Ishikawa 7805 (+55min,or loss Samara, or....105-210....???)

zeio
03-10-2021, 11:40 AM
https://i.imgur.com/oEezu7e.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gHlbXyf.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NTePyhI.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bWfM7TD.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/eKYChkJ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WOkUOnh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/hdTEqGV.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/qSpE1r3.jpg

0-3?
https://i.imgur.com/RnjssZO.jpg

Hehehe...
https://i.imgur.com/ghYUAkt.jpg

Takkyu_wa_inochi
03-10-2021, 12:08 PM
Another embarrassing defeat for Kasumi. She is the national champion and did well in T-League overall. But in World Cup, Grand finals and Doha she didn't do well.It is very likely she will retire after the Olympics. Just like Ai Fukuhara did after Rio Olympics. (did Sayaka Hirano retire just after London Olympics as well ?)or just retire this year or after next Japan championships if the Olympics are cancelled.probably she will get Ai-chan spot as a commentator on TV as her older teammate contracts will be probably cancelled after her divorce scandal...

MaLin2.0
03-10-2021, 12:32 PM
Another embarrassing defeat for Kasumi. She is the national champion and did well in T-League overall. But in World Cup, Grand finals and Doha she didn't do well.It is very likely she will retire after the Olympics. Just like Ai Fukuhara did after Rio Olympics. (did Sayaka Hirano retire just after London Olympics as well ?)or just retire this year or after next Japan championships if the Olympics are cancelled.probably she will get Ai-chan spot as a commentator on TV as her older teammate contracts will be probably cancelled after her divorce scandal...

I more saw Ai Fukuhara retired due to starting a family. I don't get the concept of retirement in Table Tennis especially when in all honesty these players are young adults. Dima Timo Samsonov older but Table Tennis is not the same as soccer or Tennis. Not like they need to run like crazy for 90 minutes or be on court in the sun for 5 hours.
​​​​I still believe physical component is required but not to degree of other sports so longevity is there.

Kasumi is 28, that's not a retirement age. Players 38 still. Less known ranked countries will probably send 40+ years olds to Olympics.

Janard
03-11-2021, 07:19 AM
O_O FTW took a game from Hayata

FTW: I was just pretending to be mediocre during T-league so that I can study all of you JNT girls.

zeio
03-11-2021, 07:58 AM
With Ishida's calling the TO so late(9:4 in the 5th), is Hayata's foot pain flaring up again? She's totally off today.

Sali
03-11-2021, 08:10 AM
I wouldn't say there was a bad performance by Hayata and Ishikawa, they both lost to very good players and in form. Just to recall Hayata barely won last week with Samara. Feng is very expereienced and she knows how to deal with the ball cracker.

zeio
03-11-2021, 08:12 AM
O_O FTW took a game from Hayata

FTW: I was just pretending to be mediocre during T-league so that I can study all of you JNT girls.
Poisonous shrimp indeed. 🦐

Before
JNT: We welcome all foreign players...
After
JNT: Dafuq? So that's why the CNT bans them...

zeio
03-11-2021, 09:03 AM
Queen Elizabeta coming through!
https://i.imgur.com/f6hkB9H.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/yTsz0cn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/1zyQwh0.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jRXsc8H.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DTa6Uxk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NmmqnUG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GNU9sRo.jpg

What can I do? She committed suicide.
https://i.imgur.com/ed8P6fA.jpg

https://tleague.jp/ranking/standings.php?gender=2&type=1&year=2020
08 FTW
11 Samara

driversbeat
03-11-2021, 10:48 AM
Samara the true 一姐 of team Romania

Takkyu_wa_inochi
03-11-2021, 11:39 AM
OTOH Bernie about to put an end to her TT career to become a Youtuber specialized in bikini swimwear and make-up

Tempest/Comet
03-11-2021, 11:45 AM
With the Olympics just 3 months away (if indeed it can be held), 2/3s of the Japanese’s Women’s team are dropping like flies in the early rounds, not by the hands of CNT but by other foreign associations which they usually bested. Maybe canceling the Games is not a bad idea.

MaLin2.0
03-11-2021, 12:28 PM
With the Olympics just 3 months away (if indeed it can be held), 2/3s of the Japanese’s Women’s team are dropping like flies in the early rounds, not by the hands of CNT but by other foreign associations which they usually bested. Maybe canceling the Games is not a bad idea.
Japan will win medals in TT. Big hopes obviously ride on Mima and Harimoto. Don't think can expect much on others, not to sound rude.

​​​​​​I expect Mima to get to SF and Japanese ladies team to win a Silver in the Team event. I can also see Harimoto in Semi Finals too. XD who knows, will depend on Mizutani being in good form and pair showing good cohesion.

I think 50/50 on games happening. Japanese think over spent on 20 billion and can't see bill decreasing with Covid measures. Games can either go 3 ways

1. Cancelled
2. Inspiring, Uniting the World during tough times
3. Complete disaster with big time infections, new mutated variants and massive bill becoming most expensive games ever to be held

I'm kinda ruling out 2, hope I'm wrong
​​​

Vlad Celler
03-11-2021, 01:08 PM
Judging by the Japanese segment of the Internet, it is not yet clear whether the Games will take place ....

Tempest/Comet
03-11-2021, 01:31 PM
Japan will win medals in TT. Big hopes obviously ride on Mima and Harimoto. Don't think can expect much on others, not to sound rude.

​​​​​​I expect Mima to get to SF and Japanese ladies team to win a Silver in the Team event. I can also see Harimoto in Semi Finals too. XD who knows, will depend on Mizutani being in good form and pair showing good cohesion.

I think 50/50 on games happening. Japanese think over spent on 20 billion and can't see bill decreasing with Covid measures. Games can either go 3 ways

1. Cancelled
2. Inspiring, Uniting the World during tough times
3. Complete disaster with big time infections, new mutated variants and massive bill becoming most expensive games ever to be held

I'm kinda ruling out 2, hope I'm wrong
​​​
options 2 & 3 would be the same IMO, big money spent while inviting multiple opportunities of incoming contaminations. Even for a no-spectators Games, there are estimated 200 nations &12000 athletes coming in. To me, Japanese dying to inspire and unite the world just seems far fetched.
As for money, Japan lost $360 billion in the 2011Tsunami plus a $78 billion deficit in the following year, but did recover the money in time. But he country still hasn’t recovered fully from the nuclear disaster, which affects its citizens.

MaLin2.0
03-11-2021, 01:56 PM
options 2 & 3 would be the same IMO, big money spent while inviting multiple opportunities of incoming contaminations. Even for a no-spectators Games, there are estimated 200 nations &12000 athletes coming in. To me, Japanese dying to inspire and unite the world just seems far fetched.
As for money, Japan lost $360 billion in the 2011Tsunami plus a $78 billion deficit in the following year, but did recover the money in time. But he country still hasn’t recovered fully from the nuclear disaster, which affects its citizens.
Not sure how keen I would be allowing big group of athletes in from US, Brazil, Mexico, Europe in. Not sure id want to be in the same hotel with athletes from these countries either. Too much really against the games and to be honest not great deal of benefit either. Overseas travellers lost likely banned, big ticket loss, other big losses such as hotel fees and purchases tourists would make if things were under normal circumstances.

Japanese government I feel for as they are in a no win situation. Safer and logical option is to cancel but the cost already spent and to cancel surely would leave a bad taste in their mouth

zeio
03-11-2021, 03:38 PM
JNT: Can't have them lose here. What's the combo for team order? Backhand, forehand, upper hand, lower hand, underhand?
https://youtu.be/JtT_P7NTqEI?t=1034

JNT: Better.
https://youtu.be/JtT_P7NTqEI?t=2889