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TheKhan123
06-19-2019, 02:57 PM
Hey everyone. I'm actually looking for a good offensive flexible blade to play tacky rubber on the forehand and tensor rubber(say donic bluestorm z1 turbo) on the backhand.
I've seen donic OTC and butterfly ALC blades and maybe even stiga carbonado or dynasty blades. Money doesn't matter because I got enough for it, but quality is a matter. Could you please help?

vik2000
06-19-2019, 03:06 PM
Acoustic, or any blades with inner carbon.

lasta
06-19-2019, 04:13 PM
Stiga OC, Xiom Offensive S. All these ALC blades are rather stiff, 1400+ on the frequency measures.

RidTheKid
06-19-2019, 04:42 PM
Yasaka Ma Lin soft carbon, DHS H301.

BryanY
06-19-2019, 05:41 PM
If you want very flexy then I like the Xiom Fuga (which is actually a clone of the Avalox P500. OFF- speed and thin (5.6mm) koto-spruce-Ayous-spruce-koto.

TheKhan123
06-19-2019, 06:02 PM
I'd rather have a carbon blade. I already have an Ovtcharov true carbon, from 2 years ago but in time, blades get softer. By flexible, I'm not exactly sure if the blades you said are hard enough to provide speed or not. Because I'm looking for a Chinese playstyle mainly.
Either way, thanks for the guide and if you get any idea of what I'm after, that'll be very nice of you to let me know :)

BryanY
06-19-2019, 06:12 PM
If OTC is flexy enough then there lots of blades to choose from. Viscaria, Trieber CO, etc...

Personally I’d go with the Xiom Ice Cream AZX because I like the concept of different types of fiber on each side. https://youtu.be/B9uTiPlADQY

TheKhan123
06-20-2019, 12:52 PM
And BTW, is there a major difference between viscaria and zjk alc???
I've heard about that zjk is faster but I'm afraid of the lack of feeling
And I know my questions are irritating because it seems like I'm not knowledgeable at all, so sorry about that :/
But I'm going to buy a new set of racket(previous: donic true carbon+acuda p1 turbo fh and p1 BH) and Im not spending my own money, but my dad's doing it. So I wanna make sure I don't waste money, and let everyone down.
So with that being said, I'm sorry to bother all of ya :)

RidTheKid
06-20-2019, 12:56 PM
What level and playing style are you? These questions are good to answer before giving any advice on equipment.


And BTW, is there a major difference between viscaria and zjk alc???
I've heard about that zjk is faster but I'm afraid of the lack of feeling
And I know my questions are irritating because it seems like I'm not knowledgeable at all, so sorry about that :/
But I'm going to buy a new set of racket(previous: donic true carbon+acuda p1 turbo fh and p1 BH) and Im not spending my own money, but my dad's doing it. So I wanna make sure I don't waste money, and let everyone down.
So with that being said, I'm sorry to bother all of ya :)

lasta
06-20-2019, 02:07 PM
And BTW, is there a major difference between viscaria and zjk alc???
I've heard about that zjk is faster but I'm afraid of the lack of feeling
And I know my questions are irritating because it seems like I'm not knowledgeable at all, so sorry about that :/
But I'm going to buy a new set of racket(previous: donic true carbon+acuda p1 turbo fh and p1 BH) and Im not spending my own money, but my dad's doing it. So I wanna make sure I don't waste money, and let everyone down.
So with that being said, I'm sorry to bother all of ya :)

Questions are not irriating, and it seems to me you genuinely want to find a decent set up. No shame in that at all.

But asking for a good flexible blade is very simply too broad of a topic, and you will get a lot of recommendations without much meaningful insight. If you want an objective suggestion, please tell us about what you like and don't like about your Donic. Try to be as detailed as you can about the shortcomings of the Donic and what you would like in your new blade?

Try to decribe your preferences in the following areas:

Performance:
-Low impact speed (pushing, blocking, flicking)
-High impact speed (smashing, full effort loops/drives)
-Do you want it to be overall faster or slower than the donic?

Basic characteristic:
-Stiffness
-Hardness (on low impact)
-Solidity/density (on high impact)
-Weight

Feel (this part gets very subjective):
-On low impact shots, do you want springy and snappy feel or precise and linear?
-On high impact shots, do you want the blade to "envolope" the ball (ie Xiom describes it as "captive" feeling) or do you want to feel as if something is pushing hard against the ball (Xiom calls "repulsive").
-General feedback on impact (sharp or dull, crisp or marshmallowy?)
-Do you want to feel exactly where the ball contacts on off-center impact, or do you want a more uniform sensation even slightly miss-hit (ie large or small sweetspot)

Some areas have to be sacrificed for emphasis on others. Again, tell us which areas are most to least important to you.

So far I can gather that you prefer something moderately flexible (duh!), decent speed, but without sacrificing feeling. But feeling is subjective, and some people prefer the dull/dampened feel provided by carbon blades. Try to answer more detailed and you will get a much more suited suggestion.

Just a disclaimer, it took me more than a dozen blades to find out exactly what I want and after another 5-6 blades, I'm still "calibrating" the perfect set up. At the end of the day, something middle of the road is more than adequate until you know exactly what you want next (ie anything from the recommendations already, especially the Ma Lin Soft Carbon).

NextLevel
06-20-2019, 03:18 PM
The thing is that what I call flexy is what people would call snail packed and what you call flexy is what I would call a brick.

Start here.

http://www.ttbla.de/

TheKhan123
06-21-2019, 06:17 AM
Yeah sure
So, basically, I'm looking for a bit more speed and lower trajectory
And by flexible blade I mean the range of something around viscaria,if that gives you any idea of what im looking for
I also look for a bit woodier feeling(like dynasty carbon xu xin) and sweet spot definitely matters.
Pushing isn't that big of a deal, I guess I just push to get the ball across the net :|
And I feel a sharp impact (if that means flatter shot) suits me better
Maybe somewhere between sharp and Crisp is perfect.
When blocking, I believe I like kind of an all-round style like waldner and I'd rather have precision than speed
And a very important part of my work is BH flip(Idk flip or flick) to return the serve.
Why was I unhappy with my donic setup?
I guess, for the most part, it was the brand name(I know, very childish :|) but also, I feel like I'm kinda tired of running the same setup for such a long time and I'd like to have a change, regarding the fact that I couldn't improve as much as I expected with it(obviously, I should blame myself as well).
And I think BH flip/flick to return serves wasn't that good despite the solid technique and it wasn't making a direct shot like I wished(I believe for the most part, it was because of the rubber)
I also care about the "kick effect" and want it to be as much as possible(I don't have the link, but you could Google it and read about it in pingsunday.com in case you don't know it)
I already have some blades that I picked and chose as I'm not too familiar with brands other than donic, stiga, bty, and dhs:
Hurricane long v(not sure if it's supper hard or just okay, based on what I described)
Hurricane King 3
Zhang Jike ALC
Garaydya ALC
Freitas ALC
Carbonado 190
Dynasty carbon Xu Xin
Ma Long carbon(from nittaku and dhs)
Ice cream azx i(not sure if hybrid helps for a player around average)
-I play in short or medium ranges from the table with a speed oriented playstyle.
-just hate Boll ALC because it's everywhere and doesn't feel good to have something that others have
-not a fan of all-wood blades
-weight isn't important
-playing with FL handle
-looking for Chinese tacky rubber on the forehand ( I guess hurricane 8/xiom omega 7 Asia)
-looking for a tensor rubber on the backhand(probably q5 or dignics or mantra m or xiom omega 7 tour). I know that ain't relevant to this conversation but I guess you could also suggest one of these rubbers for making the complete setup.
- I really wish to try something new, so please don't tell: if your happy with the previous blade, then keep it going xD
-my English isn't the best as I'm Persian and I couldn't get into the details as much as expected because of that :/
-I understand that ALC blades are pretty similar, but I guess there has to be a slight difference that helps me buy the correct one in case on of those is your recommendation for me.
- I ain't sure about the feeling and dwell time of zlc and super zlc blades. But, if those are okay, I'd be glad to know about it.
-Thanks for answering a person whom you may find so freakin' ignorant :|

alas26
06-21-2019, 06:54 AM
How about Nittaku Violin?

Or, if you’re on a budget, Yasaka Sweden Classic (under $30).

Both setups not very fast, but super flexible and great for generating spin and looping. Great for controlled, confident attacks.

Edit: I just read your recent post, my suggestions might be too slow for you...


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lasta
06-21-2019, 07:05 AM
There some some contradictions in your preferences. From what I gather, you would like:

High speed + low trajectory

Flex similar to Viscaria - Viscaria is a high-stiffness blade, frequency of 1400-low 1500s, not very flexible. Your OTC is mid 1500s, even stiffer.

Woody feeling, but don't like all wood blades - why not?

Sharp and Crisp - Viscaria and OTC are sharp, but not crisp - composites will never feel as crisp as all wood due to the very pronounced vibration dampening properties.

Blocking precision and high kick effect - These 2 are possible but rare, only seen in blades with very hard outer plies. Generally linear blades have more precision, high kick blades have less.

If you don't mind an all wood blade, I would recommend you either the Cornilleau Gatien Absolum (Calderano and Gauzy's blade), or stiga Ebenholz.

Fast + low throw, slightly more flex than Viscaria, sharp and very crisp loud woody sound (I mean night and day difference type of crisp vs the Viscaria types), great low impact blocking precision and noticeable high kick effect (very pronounced inflection point), kicky, but less so than viscaria (unfortunately, no all wood blades can compare to carbon in the kick department). Only con is slightly slower than Viscaria on the high end (ie smashing). If you don't mind giving up the crisp and feeling part. You can try the Yasaka Ebony carbon, faster, hard, sharp, high kick, but dull feeling.

I can also recommend the very different Butterfly Mazunov. Faster all around, about the same speed level of the viscaria on low-mid impact, but even faster on smashing (one of the fastest all woods). Low trajectory. Very stiff (for all all wood) but flexier than your OTC (about the same level as viscaria). Hard, sharp, crisp all wood feel. One of the best precise blocking blades ever made. Very suitable for a speed oriented player, and aggressive loopers (I think Patrick Francizka uses this). But more linear, and less "kicky" than the viscaria.

Other than that, you can just get a viscaria-like blade that is not viscaria: Xiom Stradivarius, Andro Treiber. ZJK ALC is right there. Freitas has limba instead of koto, so might be slightly less sharp. I tried the Ice Cream very briefly, hard and sharp blade but not crisp, actually even more dull than the viscaria. Note, these will not be very different from your OTC.

Note, I have a VERY strong aversion to anything in a blade that dulls sensation, so take it with a grain of salt.

chintanmashroo
06-21-2019, 07:08 AM
Select any from the below and you are good to go:

1. DHS W968
2. ZJK Super ZLC
3. ZJK ZLC
4. Nittaku Ma Long Carbon 1

RidTheKid
06-21-2019, 07:29 AM
Like I said, if you tell us what playing level you are you will get better responses and help. It's unwise to put a W968 in the hands of a beginner, and a premade bat in the hands of a pro. So what level are you?


Yeah sure
So, basically, I'm looking for a bit more speed and lower trajectory
And by flexible blade I mean the range of something around viscaria,if that gives you any idea of what im looking for
I also look for a bit woodier feeling(like dynasty carbon xu xin) and sweet spot definitely matters.
Pushing isn't that big of a deal, I guess I just push to get the ball across the net :|
And I feel a sharp impact (if that means flatter shot) suits me better
Maybe somewhere between sharp and Crisp is perfect.
When blocking, I believe I like kind of an all-round style like waldner and I'd rather have precision than speed
And a very important part of my work is BH flip(Idk flip or flick) to return the serve.
Why was I unhappy with my donic setup?
I guess, for the most part, it was the brand name(I know, very childish :|) but also, I feel like I'm kinda tired of running the same setup for such a long time and I'd like to have a change, regarding the fact that I couldn't improve as much as I expected with it(obviously, I should blame myself as well).
And I think BH flip/flick to return serves wasn't that good despite the solid technique and it wasn't making a direct shot like I wished(I believe for the most part, it was because of the rubber)
I also care about the "kick effect" and want it to be as much as possible(I don't have the link, but you could Google it and read about it in pingsunday.com in case you don't know it)
I already have some blades that I picked and chose as I'm not too familiar with brands other than donic, stiga, bty, and dhs:
Hurricane long v(not sure if it's supper hard or just okay, based on what I described)
Hurricane King 3
Zhang Jike ALC
Garaydya ALC
Freitas ALC
Carbonado 190
Dynasty carbon Xu Xin
Ma Long carbon(from nittaku and dhs)
Ice cream azx i(not sure if hybrid helps for a player around average)
-I play in short or medium ranges from the table with a speed oriented playstyle.
-just hate Boll ALC because it's everywhere and doesn't feel good to have something that others have
-not a fan of all-wood blades
-weight isn't important
-playing with FL handle
-looking for Chinese tacky rubber on the forehand ( I guess hurricane 8/xiom omega 7 Asia)
-looking for a tensor rubber on the backhand(probably q5 or dignics or mantra m or xiom omega 7 tour). I know that ain't relevant to this conversation but I guess you could also suggest one of these rubbers for making the complete setup.
- I really wish to try something new, so please don't tell: if your happy with the previous blade, then keep it going xD
-my English isn't the best as I'm Persian and I couldn't get into the details as much as expected because of that :/
-I understand that ALC blades are pretty similar, but I guess there has to be a slight difference that helps me buy the correct one in case on of those is your recommendation for me.
- I ain't sure about the feeling and dwell time of zlc and super zlc blades. But, if those are okay, I'd be glad to know about it.
-Thanks for answering a person whom you may find so freakin' ignorant :|

lasta
06-21-2019, 07:30 AM
BTW the Stiga Clipper Rosewood 7 (CRW 7) may theoretically tick all your boxes. Similar to the Absolum but faster. I haven't tried this one.

TheKhan123
06-21-2019, 07:33 AM
Thanks to all of you
Now I have an idea of what to look for :)

TheKhan123
06-21-2019, 07:34 AM
Like I said, if you tell us what playing level you are you will get better responses and help. It's unwise to put a W968 in the hands of a beginner, and a premade bat in the hands of a pro. So what level are you?
I'm just average, maybe slightly a bit above average

RidTheKid
06-21-2019, 08:01 AM
Ok then, with practice you could handle a Viscaria/W968. If you really want a taste of that feeling and speed I'd go for a H301 which is a great quality blade and considering a very cheap blade and buy something more expensive later on.


I'm just average, maybe slightly a bit above average

TheKhan123
06-21-2019, 09:25 AM
Well, doesn't seem like w968 exists in Iran and due to the sanctions, I'm not sure if there's anywhere that could ship directly to Iran
But I'm pretty sure hurricane 301 and dynasty carbon Xu Xin are great
And based on what I see in a website in Iran, dynasty has more speed but less control. So, I guess hurricane is my choice in the end :)
huge shout-out to all of you for the help:)

yogi_bear
06-21-2019, 10:13 AM
Dynasty blade does not lack control compared to viscaria. It just has a lower arc.

laistrogian
06-21-2019, 02:10 PM
Innerforce ALC, since you have the money for it.

There's HL5 but honestly the handle shape is not for everyone and butterfly simply has better build

darucla
06-21-2019, 03:40 PM
I use a H301/H3 for proper match play, unless I am very tired (happens towards the end of matches as I am 68), when I switch to a Viscaria/Tenergy, and lately to a Dynasty carbon/Tenergy. Certainly the Dynasty has huge potential, and I am spending some time in Summer League trying to work it out. But obviously great spin and loop in the right hands. All three are good blades.

TheKhan123
06-23-2019, 03:34 PM
And all of a sudden, I found two blades to compare mostly for the feeling as the speeds are similar
And the blades are dynasty carbon xx and feel zx2
Any idea about the feeling and duel?

Der_Echte
06-23-2019, 04:27 PM
Man, we get 5 threads like this a week over analyzing a gazillion criteria. There are many great amateur players and coaches in Iran, one of locally can educate the OP better in person than the OP can get from an internet forum.

Now if the type likes to agonize publicly all long and drawn out for weeks on end, then forums are the right place.

Get option A, or b, or C, or D, or E, or F.

Too confusing? Can't make up mind? Want some of all of them?

The buy them all like Pokémon. Become an EJ and never find what you are looking for.

Very likely you gunna get something unsuitable, so why worry about it so much? Just buy something ridiculously expensive and brag about it to whoever you play with and make then burn with envy.

If you really don't know jack about equipment, take a trip to a TT club and offer free chicken and drink to whoever knows, it is less expensive than paying cash and you would get 10x better help.

NextLevel
06-23-2019, 04:34 PM
Man, we get 5 threads like this a week over analyzing a gazillion criteria. There are many great amateur players and coaches in Iran, one of locally can educate the OP better in person than the OP can get from an internet forum.

Now if the type likes to agonize publicly all long and drawn out for weeks on end, then forums are the right place.

Get option A, or b, or C, or D, or E, or F.

Too confusing? Can't make up mind? Want some of all of them?

The buy them all like Pokémon. Become an EJ and never find what you are looking for.

Very likely you gunna get something unsuitable, so why worry about it so much? Just buy something ridiculously expensive and brag about it to whoever you play with and make then burn with envy.

If you really don't know jack about equipment, take a trip to a TT club and offer free chicken and drink to whoever knows, it is less expensive than paying cash and you would get 10x better help.

Exactly. I guess it takes getting to a certain level of comfort with equipment to understand what you are saying reflexively.

I would say drive to a TT club, and use the blades there and offer to buy the blade of someone that you liked. That is even better than buying something off the internet if your goal is to get something you enjoy playing with based on your actual game.

If no one will do this, then at least, you can use the blade frequency chart to get an idea of quality control on a Butterfly (or other) blade. Buy one in the range of what you like, and just use it.

In the end, your practice and playing is what makes a blade good as long as it is in a reasonable range. It is far less about the objective characteristics of the blade (again, once it is in a reasonable range).

If you have deep questions, just PM yogi, he has used everything on the planet Earth.

TheKhan123
06-24-2019, 03:58 PM
I actually used to think of Ovtcharov No.1 senso
But then. I realized that it has less speed that my own OTC(as the manufacturer ratings tell)
Has anyone tried it out(or even the non-senso version)? Is it really slower???​

NextLevel
06-24-2019, 04:04 PM
I actually used to think of Ovtcharov No.1 senso
But then. I realized that it has less speed that my own OTC(as the manufacturer ratings tell)
Has anyone tried it out(or even the non-senso version)? Is it really slower???​

What does slower really mean? And why do you think you need a fast blade?

RidTheKid
06-24-2019, 08:26 PM
Ovtcharov no 1 senso is made by DHS, it's basically a rebranded Hurricane Long V. Same material and composition. I'm sure it's fast enough for you.


I actually used to think of Ovtcharov No.1 senso
But then. I realized that it has less speed that my own OTC(as the manufacturer ratings tell)
Has anyone tried it out(or even the non-senso version)? Is it really slower???​

Amaken23
06-24-2019, 08:47 PM
I'd go with Stiga Azalea Offensive. Great OFF- blade, quite flexible with great feel. It is all-wood blade, but it quite fast.

TheKhan123
06-25-2019, 05:26 AM
Man, we get 5 threads like this a week over analyzing a gazillion criteria. There are many great amateur players and coaches in Iran, one of locally can educate the OP better in person than the OP can get from an internet forum.

Now if the type likes to agonize publicly all long and drawn out for weeks on end, then forums are the right place.

Get option A, or b, or C, or D, or E, or F.

Too confusing? Can't make up mind? Want some of all of them?

The buy them all like Pokémon. Become an EJ and never find what you are looking for.

Very likely you gunna get something unsuitable, so why worry about it so much? Just buy something ridiculously expensive and brag about it to whoever you play with and make then burn with envy.

If you really don't know jack about equipment, take a trip to a TT club and offer free chicken and drink to whoever knows, it is less expensive than paying cash and you would get 10x better help.

I understand what you're saying
As a matter of fact, Iranians don't seem to know anything about table tennis equipments. They only offer Boll ALC with T05 on both sides which is not good for me.
If I made this thread to ask all of this, it's because there's a specific date that we made up with my family members so my father affords a racket for me as a sort of reward for making it to university (and I'm no kid BTW I'm 18 :| )
Trust me, I won't become an EJ like you mentioned, just using my time at it's best instead of wasting it :)

TheKhan123
06-25-2019, 05:27 AM
What does slower really mean? And why do you think you need a fast blade?

Just making sure I don't lack speed

lasta
06-25-2019, 05:42 AM
Why is Boll ALC with 2X T05 not good for you?

Frankly, I don't think you know enough about yourself to know exactly what you want. Get the Boll+Tenergy and at leas you will have a tried and true, proven setup good enough for the world's top 10. Even if it is not "technically perfect" you will have the ease of mind knowing you have good shit. And I believe ease of mind is exactly what you need.

Everything you posted over the past few days are symptoms of EJ. I am an EJ, I know one when I see one. Every 8/10 blades I purchase turns into crap, 1 is OK, and 1 is great, but nothing is "perfect". Nothing people describe will match feeling it yourself. You will start thinking about the next piece of gear the day after you get your first piece.

Short answer is:
1. Nothing recommended here will be perfect, not even close.
2. You will become an EJ.

Enjoy the journey.

PS: Some of my equipment are designed 40 years ago, my tools never lack speed, sometimes I'm too slow.

TheKhan123
06-25-2019, 06:34 AM
Lasta, I truly value your post and respect your thought behind it. But there's 2 things I should mention:
1: the only reason I'm here is seeing the ideas of others, I was going to buy that Ovtcharov blade, but I just thought of buying something from other brands, and hell I can't stop being loyal to Donic xD
2: I'm not sitting on a gold mine to feel unsatisfied with what I bought and then become an EJ like you are certain about. As a matter of fact, I just graduated from high school and I don't think I can buy tons of equipments like others. As a matter of fact, my only hope is being that good that a company finally values me and opts to sign a contract of sponsorship with me in the future. That's why if you read my comments, you see I'm trying to buy the equipments of the same company for all of my setup. Where do you think Iran is? The land of dreams? No! You don't get 2 shots for something like this in Iran because no one even finds it as an opportunity of succeeding and they mess with you if you talk about it. Even my father does xD.
With that being said, I'ma have to do my best to make a way.
3: about trying the racket of club mates, I have to tell that the city where I live in has no club for tt in it :| so, it's been around 2 years that I wasn't able to play seriously. I have to travel something like 20+ kilometers to make it to that club. And because of school, I couldn't make it.
I feel like I had to tell you guys all of it because I don't have a friend in real life that I can tell my problems to, without getting japed like hell.
Thx for your concerns :)

lasta
06-25-2019, 07:18 AM
Ok, you are persistent! I give you that.

And good to have ambition on becoming a sponsored player. My absolutely best wishes for your effort.

But for equipment, honestly, doesn't matter.

I'm not too familiar with Donic, only blade I had from them is the Persson Powerplay maybe 10 years ago...

But the OTC is a very similar construction as the Viscaria/Boll, frequency results from other people put it as the same ballpark and maybe slightly stiffer. Nevertheless, should play similar enough to the Viscarias as not warranting you the need to change.

Xiom also seems to be sponsoring a lot of players. From them, the "Viscaria-type" is Xiom Stradivarius. Get that and 2 sheets of Vega Pro and there will be nothing you can do with Boll+T05 you can't do to at the same quality.

Let us know your other target companies and I'm sure there will be a 90% fit for Boll+T05 from them too.

Spend more time playing. Work on your technique before chasing gear. 20KM is not far, bike if you don't have a car. But a good attitude and dedication will take you far closer to sponsorship than optimizing gear.

When you have a good enough grasp on your game, you WILL intrinsically know EXACTLY what you want to change equipment wise. When you get there, optimize to your hearts content. But until then, just get something middle of the road and focus on the rest of the game.

BTW, when you can speak like this, come back and talk gear:

My perfect blade is a 7-ply mono-material Cpen blade made of either all basswood or all ayous, weight between 105g-110g, 7.3-7.45mm thick, with stiffness (as indicated by frequency range) of between 1460-1490, ideally minimal glue in between wood plies, shape: 150mm wide by 155mm long (shorter than average), with a slightly more pronounced neck flare, wider (fatter) handle than average and with the end of the handle protruding 2mm further down the blade surface than average. So far, I have 3 blades within a 10% deviation to ideal parameters. Trying to optimize the last details, ordered 3 more, all of which fell outside 10% limits).

yogi_bear
06-25-2019, 08:12 AM
Stradivarius is a good alternative to tb alc but feels softer due to a different composite material being used.

lasta
06-25-2019, 08:21 AM
Stradivarius is a good alternative to tb alc but feels softer due to a different composite material being used.

Haha, yes, hence the last 10% ;).

But for Mr. Khan, no need to worry about the minutiae yet.

TheKhan123
06-25-2019, 09:03 AM
Haha, yes, hence the last 10% ;).

But for Mr. Khan, no need to worry about the minutiae yet.
The name is Mohammad

langel
06-25-2019, 09:09 AM
Lasta, I truly value your post and respect your thought behind it. But there's 2 things I should mention:
1: the only reason I'm here is seeing the ideas of others, I was going to buy that Ovtcharov blade, but I just thought of buying something from other brands, and hell I can't stop being loyal to Donic xD
2: I'm not sitting on a gold mine to feel unsatisfied with what I bought and then become an EJ like you are certain about. As a matter of fact, I just graduated from high school and I don't think I can buy tons of equipments like others. As a matter of fact, my only hope is being that good that a company finally values me and opts to sign a contract of sponsorship with me in the future. That's why if you read my comments, you see I'm trying to buy the equipments of the same company for all of my setup. Where do you think Iran is? The land of dreams? No! You don't get 2 shots for something like this in Iran because no one even finds it as an opportunity of succeeding and they mess with you if you talk about it. Even my father does xD.
With that being said, I'ma have to do my best to make a way.
3: about trying the racket of club mates, I have to tell that the city where I live in has no club for tt in it :| so, it's been around 2 years that I wasn't able to play seriously. I have to travel something like 20+ kilometers to make it to that club. And because of school, I couldn't make it.
I feel like I had to tell you guys all of it because I don't have a friend in real life that I can tell my problems to, without getting japed like hell.
Thx for your concerns :)

In that case I would highly recommend you to buy Xiom Feel S7, or Xiom Solo, or Xiom Off Classic S, paired with Xiom Vega Asia DF or Vega Pro, or any other setup of that class, find a club, find a coach, train seriously and see how far and how fast you can develop.
Frankly said, I don't think that at that point you are ready to utilize ZX2 or IceCream and Xiom Omega 7 Tour or Asia or anything of that class. I even think that such an equipment would hinder your development.

Kolev
06-25-2019, 12:00 PM
Azalea Off sounds the right thing

doriant
03-10-2020, 06:45 AM
Hey im new to this forum. I'd like to ask what is gonna be if i use tenergy 05 (FH) on my stiga ebenholz vii? Im close to mid range player and currently using donic bluefire m1

Vishal
10-04-2020, 08:32 PM
Hi,
Can you recommend butterfly blade which flixible so that I could use with hard rubbers as this flexi blade & hard rubber combination is good ? I don’t like harimoto as it is head heavy also don’t like INNERFORCE series.

Konrad Bak
10-04-2020, 09:04 PM
Hi,
Can you recommend butterfly blade which flixible so that I could use with hard rubbers as this flexi blade & hard rubber combination is good ? I don’t like harimoto as it is head heavy also don’t like INNERFORCE series.

Every wood blade should be good.
Soft blade hard rubbers it always heavier than
Hard blade and soft rubbers

yogi_bear
10-04-2020, 11:21 PM
Hi,
Can you recommend butterfly blade which flixible so that I could use with hard rubbers as this flexi blade & hard rubber combination is good ? I don’t like harimoto as it is head heavy also don’t like INNERFORCE series.

Butterfly Primorac OFF-

trumpet_guy
10-05-2020, 02:03 AM
Reviews have suggested that the Butterfly Lin Gaoyuan ALC is fast but soft. Worth trying.