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DanieleD
07-15-2019, 10:50 AM
I have always used kalin oil and I have always found it good on Tendergy both for its effect and for its duration, I have always done maximum 3 layers.
I am curious to know if anyone knows how DianChi Oil and Haifu Seamoon behave with respect to kalin on the level of effect above all, duration interests me less.
If anyone can help me I really thank you !!:o

yogi_bear
07-15-2019, 12:23 PM
Falco. It is more gentle than seamoon

dominus7
07-15-2019, 01:12 PM
Why you should boost an already boosted rubber? dignics is a good and fast rubber yet

AMonteiro
07-15-2019, 03:09 PM
TRF works great on Euro/JAP rubbers.

vik2000
07-15-2019, 03:37 PM
I don't know if I'd boost D05 fresh out of its package...

DanieleD
07-15-2019, 04:38 PM
Thanks for the answers, but someone who also tried the dianchi and the seamoon? :p

dominus7
07-15-2019, 05:07 PM
I don't know if I'd boost D05 fresh out of its package...I Won't do it either....

AMonteiro
07-15-2019, 07:36 PM
If he uses booster on Tenergy, I see no problem to use on Dignics.

Archyan
07-15-2019, 07:37 PM
3x layers on new tenergy? You don't need to boost these rubbers fresh out of the package, unless you play in the tour

Pondus
07-15-2019, 07:46 PM
Nobody "needs" to boost anything, it's personal preference. Why are there always so many people so quick to jump on others for their choices when it's completely uncalled for? The OP didn't ask for anyone's opinion as to whether he should boost his new Dignics 05 or not - he asked if anyone here has any experience, and if so with what booster(s). That's all.

As for answering the actual question, I've personally always used a couple of layers of Falco on Tenergy and have done the same when trying out Dignics. In my experience (limited this far, I'll admit), the boosting effect on Tenergy and Dignics is very similar, so I would suggest you start with what you've done in the past on Tenergy and see if you're happy with it. Good luck.

Archyan
07-15-2019, 08:02 PM
Nobody "needs" to boost anything, it's personal preference. Why are there always so many people so quick to jump on others for their choices when it's completely uncalled for?


Personal preference? I can assure you that boosting 3x layers on a tenergy is overkill, and that's a fact.
Me, and others, are giving him advice.
He most likely can't control the rubber that well with that much boost.
We are giving him advice to improve, we are not trying to be douchebags

Pondus
07-15-2019, 08:19 PM
Personal preference? I can assure you that boosting 3x layers on a tenergy is overkill, and that's a fact.
Me, and others, are giving him advice.
He most likely can't control the rubber that well with that much boost.
We are giving him advice to improve, we are not trying to be douchebags

You may not intend to be a douce, but I didn't read anywhere that he was asking for your advice. If he wants to put 500 layers of booster on his rubber, what do you care? I'd be surprised if he hasn't tried Tenergy and Dicnigs without booster before, and simply prefers it better boosted the way he does (in fact he said as much). Personally, I just don't like it when people unsolicited tell others what to do. Anyway, I wasn't looking for an argument, so I apologize. Just a silly pet-peeve of mine. Cheers.

laistrogian
07-16-2019, 03:58 AM
Seamoon seems to have stronger boost effect compared to falco.

It can be very convenient because you only need to put 1 layer of booster rather than 2. So you'd be spending 2 days boosting and not 3

I'd only put 1 layer of seamoon on a dignics, probably a thin to very slightly thicker layer, just to bring the softness back down to tenergy level so you get more bounce of it.

yogi_bear
07-16-2019, 05:47 AM
Seamon may have a stronger boosting effect but it doew not last as long as falco.

Lula
07-16-2019, 07:19 AM
I think you should boost if you want to. But i think you should be careful that the rubber Do not become to soft. I also think you should try them first, Maybe they are fast enough already. It is fun to play with boosted stuff But i think it Will limit your developement if you train not only for fun But also because you want to become better.

Astorix
07-16-2019, 07:44 AM
i recommend Dymax Maximizer

laistrogian
07-16-2019, 07:55 AM
Seamon may have a stronger boosting effect but it doew not last as long as falco.

I just boosted my H3 with seamoon. How long does the boosting effect last?

yogi_bear
07-16-2019, 08:26 AM
Probably a week or 2 the longest

laistrogian
07-16-2019, 10:33 AM
Probably a week or 2 the longest

Damn. How many times can you re-boost a H3? I was planning to boost it every month or 1.5 months until i heard this from you

Also, how long would falco long boosting effect lasts?

dominus7
07-16-2019, 11:23 AM
Damn. How many times can you re-boost a H3? I was planning to boost it every month or 1.5 months until i heard this from you

Also, how long would falco long boosting effect lasts?Till 3 months in my case using H3N, after that becomes half dead as new

DanieleD
07-16-2019, 11:52 AM
I have always used butterfly tires without boostering, but since I tried the booster I noticed that the ball, especially the hard ones in ABS, the ball (slips less on the rubber) with the booster is more friction.
I mainly boster this reason and then because "I feel the ball on the rubber more" is my personal feeling and I like it more.
When I used the hawk I did maximum 2 layers since the gum then became too soggy (soft) with the kalin does not make me the same effect as the hawk, so I do 2 max 3 of them always waiting between 1 layer and the other 30 hours. :rolleyes:

yogi_bear
07-16-2019, 02:06 PM
Falco long says it lasts about 8 weeks buy for me i reboost every month

QUOTE=laistrogian;282291]Damn. How many times can you re-boost a H3? I was planning to boost it every month or 1.5 months until i heard this from you

Also, how long would falco long boosting effect lasts?[/QUOTE]

dominus7
07-16-2019, 02:28 PM
Falco long says it lasts about 8 weeks buy for me i reboost every month

QUOTE=laistrogian;282291]Damn. How many times can you re-boost a H3? I was planning to boost it every month or 1.5 months until i heard this from you

Also, how long would falco long boosting effect lasts?[/QUOTE]The lasting could be affected by how many times do you play at week, I just play normal, not intense twice on week, or 8 times in a month approx, 24 times in three months. And intensively once for month. How about you?

RidTheKid
07-16-2019, 05:33 PM
Google translate? Tires? Hawk?


I have always used butterfly tires without boostering, but since I tried the booster I noticed that the ball, especially the hard ones in ABS, the ball (slips less on the rubber) with the booster is more friction.
I mainly boster this reason and then because "I feel the ball on the rubber more" is my personal feeling and I like it more.
When I used the hawk I did maximum 2 layers since the gum then became too soggy (soft) with the kalin does not make me the same effect as the hawk, so I do 2 max 3 of them always waiting between 1 layer and the other 30 hours. :rolleyes:

dominus7
07-16-2019, 06:56 PM
Google translate? Tires? Hawk?Calm down, may be is a Sioux warrior riding a F1 with butterfly car :v

langel
07-16-2019, 07:30 PM
Calm down, may be is a Sioux warrior riding a F1 with butterfly car :v

Its harsh, bro.
One of the legends in womens table tennis is Sioux.
I think that Everyone in this forum would be happy to be coached by her.

dominus7
07-16-2019, 08:03 PM
Its harsh, bro.
One of the legends in womens table tennis is Sioux.
I think that Everyone in this forum would be happy to be coached by her..https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190716/f954c5d9cec73172a2c7ef0ac206eeb1.jpg

passifid
07-16-2019, 09:05 PM
Its harsh, bro.
One of the legends in womens table tennis is Sioux.
I think that Everyone in this forum would be happy to be coached by her.
Eh? isnt that a reference to the fact Hawk was a common Sioux name and nothing to do with their table tennis abilities?

laistrogian
07-16-2019, 10:19 PM
Falco long says it lasts about 8 weeks buy for me i reboost every month

And how many times can you reboost your hurricane before it gets too soft?

thom
07-16-2019, 10:21 PM
Eh? isnt that a reference to the fact Hawk was a common Sioux name and nothing to do with their table tennis abilities?
I think by Hawk, he meant Falco. I think people should stop harassing other for using Google translate.

yogi_bear
07-17-2019, 08:13 AM
At 5 layers, i think hurricane will be too soft.
And how many times can you reboost your hurricane before it gets too soft?

sam1899
12-14-2019, 09:08 AM
Hello,that's m'y first post here, i'm spanish so sorry for m'y pour english.
One year ago I had the great luck to make a full training with a pro french team playing in Pro A, they was champion off the championship. So I can speak and train during about 2 hours with Kirill Skatchkov, Benedek Olah and Zai Chao, i've tried all their raquets too. I've play about half an hour with the Kirill Skatchkov bat, he play Ovtachrov true carbon and 2 Donic Bluefire M1 and it's dammed hard, it's like you got the ball with a metal piece. So I ask him for the crucial question I always wonder for "What's your booster" he said Kailin booster. Like a lot off his European team mate
He tried my bat, a Mizutani SZLC with 2 dignics 05 (just calling out at this date, may 2019) and he said "it's good, bit too soft for me"

yogi_bear
12-14-2019, 09:50 AM
Pros usually get customized sponge hardness. Some even get as hard as 60 degrees.

sam1899
12-14-2019, 10:42 AM
No, he assured me that all his equipment was commercial. The only thing that is customised is the length of the handle. It also has a kind of screw planted in the middle of the handle so as not to have the weight at the head of racket

yogi_bear
12-14-2019, 11:20 AM
No, he assured me that all his equipment was commercial. The only thing that is customised is the length of the handle. It also has a kind of screw planted in the middle of the handle so as not to have the weight at the head of racket
Depends on which player and which company sponsor.

sam1899
12-14-2019, 11:26 AM
True, I guess the world's tops have them 100% custom rubbers and blade

Der_Echte
12-15-2019, 06:56 AM
I think you should boost if you want to. But i think you should be careful that the rubber Do not become to soft. I also think you should try them first, Maybe they are fast enough already. It is fun to play with boosted stuff But i think it Will limit your developement if you train not only for fun But also because you want to become better.

Good point Lula,

Also, no one seems to be concerned about ruining a 100 USD+ rubber... so easy to do it all wrong and ruin the rubber... not even mentioning how boosting accelerates the wear on a rubber.

igorponger
12-16-2019, 06:59 AM
INNOWEP lab did a series of hardness measurements for many rubber types to better satisfy the ITTF needs.
-- Donic Bluefire M1 Shore A scale = 45 degree (large-pores sponge)
-- Butterfly Tenergy 05 Shore A scale = 37 degree (mid-pores sponge)
-- DHS Hurricane 3 Neo Shore A scale = 42 degree (micropores)

And yes, M1 would feel much like a piece of cardboard (unboosted version).

lasta
12-16-2019, 07:06 AM
INNOWEP lab did a series of hardness measurements for many rubber types to better satisfy the ITTF needs.
-- Donic Bluefire M1 Shore A scale = 45 degree (large-pores sponge)
-- Butterfly Tenergy 05 Shore A scale = 37 degree (mid-pores sponge)
-- DHS Hurricane 3 Neo Shore A scale = 42 degree (micropores)

And yes, M1 would feel much like a piece of cardboard (unboosted version).

You make a lot of references to INNOWEP tests. Unless they become public, hard to make any conclusions, or even trust the results. Is the measure of topsheet and sponge together or just the sponge? IMO the topsheet hardness makes just as much difference. T05 has a harder topsheet than most "currently popular" rubber.

igorponger
07-26-2020, 08:50 PM
Pros usually get customized sponge hardness. Some even get as hard as 60 degrees.

DONIC Blue Grip C1 novelty product featuring hardest sponge ever, 50* Shore A. Much like heavy military footgear.