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Loopadoop
07-30-2019, 01:49 PM
August 4-10 Lima Peru

I couldn't find the equipment listed in the prospectus. They will probably use:

Table: Stag
Ball: DHS *** D40+

Singles entries: 30 men and 30 women

USA entries

Men - Nikhil Kumar and Kanak Jha
Women - Yue Wu and Lily Zhang

Loopadoop
08-01-2019, 10:04 AM
Teams - 12 with three players for each men and women

Doubles - 14 men and 13 women

Ren22
08-03-2019, 02:54 AM
Wasn't able to find the womens draw...
In singles well, I guess my favorites are Hugo and Kanak Jha to take the gold medal. Hugo is sitting at WR 6, pretty impressive.

Kanak (WR 33) exceded my expectations in his game against Ma Long so I hope he can show us that confidence once more in Lima.

Rooting for my fellow mexicans, Marcos Madrid (WR 86) and Ricardo Villa (WR 235), hope they can give us some good games...

Also interested in seeing Brian Afanador (WR 101) from Puerto Rico play, doesn't really have an outstanding record on the World Tour but he managed to be in a Semifinal at the Challenge Serbian Open a few months back.

Teams wise, guessing we'll see a Brazil vs USA final

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GusShnaps
08-03-2019, 03:18 AM
In singles well, I guess my favorites are Hugo and Kanak Jha to take the gold medal.

My bets as well. I think Gustavo Tsuboi has a good chance as well, the brazilian is 32 in the world rankings. He got third place last time (in February).

For the womens, I believe Adriana Diaz will take 1st place.

Ren22
08-03-2019, 03:29 AM
For the womens, I believe Adriana Diaz will take 1st place.

Adriana Diaz has played pretty well as of late, she's definitley a favorite. I'm personally looking forward to seeing Lily Zhang get up there.

Loopadoop
08-03-2019, 07:35 AM
Eugene Wang Canada is a contender for a medal.

If Stag tables are used then it kind of makes things less predictable.

Ren22
08-03-2019, 08:18 AM
Eugene Wang Canada is a contender for a medal.

If Stag tables are used then it kind of makes things less predictable.

You think so? From what I could find, he only participated in 2 events in 2018, the Challenge Polish Open (Rd 32) and he won the 2018 US Open, I remember the final was pretty good but he hasn't played in any event this year. Maybe bronze is he brings his A game.

Not that informed about tables, is the quality of STAG tables not great so it makes things unpredictable??

Loopadoop
08-03-2019, 08:31 AM
The Stag tables have less friction than a Butterfly so are different. Usually the players don't have them to train on so no one is used to them.

pongfugrasshopper
08-03-2019, 09:20 AM
Adriana Diaz has played pretty well as of late, she's definitley a favorite. I'm personally looking forward to seeing Lily Zhang get up there.
I think Lily will win. She's been training professionally in Europe. She won their most recent matchup... 2019 Slovenia Open.

Loopadoop
08-03-2019, 11:04 AM
My picks for medals:

Men
Calderano Afanador Kumar

Women

Mo Zhang Diaz Lily Zhang

Ren22
08-04-2019, 07:14 AM
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Loopadoop
08-04-2019, 12:59 PM
All Doubles Today

Last Matches being Quarterfinals

Loopadoop
08-05-2019, 02:54 AM
USA Quarterfinals Results Aug 4

Mixed won
Women won
Men lost

Ren22
08-05-2019, 02:59 AM
Intense game...

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Loopadoop
08-06-2019, 01:07 AM
R8 Singles USA players

Men Jha and Kumar

Women Yu Wue and Lily Zhang

Women Doubles Final

USA Yu Wue/Lily Zhang vs Diaz sisters Puerto Rico

Loopadoop
08-06-2019, 01:08 AM
Tuesday August 6

R8 Singles USA
Men Jha and Kumar
Women Yu Wue and Lily Zhang

Women Doubles Final
USA Yu Wue/Lily Zhang vs Diaz sisters Puerto Rico

GusShnaps
08-06-2019, 02:24 AM
Mixed doubles final:

Eugene Wang/Zhang Mo 4 x 1 Gustavo Tsuboi/Bruna Takahashi :(
(Canada) 4 x 1 (Brasil)

Ren22
08-06-2019, 10:04 PM
I like these quarter finals

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Ren22
08-06-2019, 10:19 PM
Lily's out...

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Ren22
08-06-2019, 10:20 PM
Female semis tomorrow

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Loopadoop
08-07-2019, 01:17 AM
I am a bit surprised of Lily Zhang's upset in the R8.

Loopadoop
08-07-2019, 04:35 AM
Women Doubles

Puerto Rico Diaz sisters 4-3 USA Wu/Zhang

lVegita
08-07-2019, 05:10 AM
I am a bit surprised of Lily Zhang's upset in the R8.Is it really an upset? They are pretty close in the WR

Loopadoop
08-07-2019, 04:50 PM
Is it really an upset? They are pretty close in the WR

Lily Z usually beats her teammate Yu Wu WR#40.

GusShnaps
08-07-2019, 07:01 PM
Wow! Surprisingly it won't be a Hugo x Kanak Jha final!

Kanak Jha (USA) 2 x 4 (Dominican Republic) Wu Jiaji :eek:
Eugene Wang (Canada) 2 x 4 (Brazil) Hugo Calderano

Men's singles final:

Wu Jiaji x Hugo Calderano

GO BRAZILLLLL!!!

GusShnaps
08-07-2019, 07:04 PM
Bruna Takahashi (Brasil) 0 x 4 (Puerto Rico) Adriana Diaz :(
Melanie Diaz (Puerto Rico) 2 x 4 (USA) Wu Yue.

Women's singles final:

Wu Yue x Adriana Diaz

lVegita
08-07-2019, 07:04 PM
Wow! Surprisingly it won't be a Hugo x Kanak Jha final!

Kanak Jha (USA) 2 x 4 (Dominican Republic) Wu Jiaji :eek:
Eugene Wang (Canada) 2 x 4 (Brazil) Hugo Calderano

Men's singles final:

Wu Jiaji x Hugo Calderano

GO BRAZILLLLL!!!

I was about to post this haha

19571

Loopadoop
08-07-2019, 07:05 PM
Huge Upset - Semifinal - Men's Singles

USA World Ranked #33 Kanak Jha 2-4 Wu Jiaji World Ranked #648 Dominican Republic

Wu Jiaji is the 4th best World Ranked player of 6 in his country.

....

NextLevel
08-07-2019, 07:23 PM
Huge Upset - Semifinal - Men's Singles

USA World Ranked #33 Kanak Jha 2-4 Wu Jiaji World Ranked #648 Dominican Republic

Wu Jiaji is the 4th best World Ranked player of 6 in his country.

....
And a former Chinese national team Junior and Super League player. Guys, let's try to act like enlightened analysts and present a full picture.

lightspin
08-07-2019, 07:36 PM
Huge Upset - Semifinal - Men's Singles

USA World Ranked #33 Kanak Jha 2-4 Wu Jiaji World Ranked #648 Dominican Republic

Wu Jiaji is the 4th best World Ranked player of 6 in his country.

....


The world rankings are, for now at least, fairly meaningless.

Loopadoop
08-07-2019, 07:42 PM
And a former Chinese national team Junior and Super League player. Guys, let's try to act like enlightened analysts and present a full picture.

Wu Jiaji has played in several World Tour Senior Events without any significant results in the last 4 years, not much before that either.

Here is his profile and results:

http://results.ittf.link/index.php?option=com_fabrik&view=details&formid=99&Itemid=266&rowid=117330&resetfilters=1

NextLevel
08-07-2019, 07:55 PM
Wu Jiaji has played in several World Tour Senior Events without any significant results in the last 4 years, not much before that either.

Here is his profile and results:

http://results.ittf.link/index.php?option=com_fabrik&view=details&formid=99&Itemid=266&rowid=117330&resetfilters=1

The same could be said for Eugene Wang or Kanak Jha if we are using strictly the same standard - remember thar Wu is not eligible for the kinds of events that Kanak's ranking largely derives from and Wu also lost to players at those events that would eat Kanak for dinner. Which is why you need to paint a fuller picture.

Loopadoop
08-07-2019, 08:04 PM
The same could be said for Eugene Wang or Kanak Jha if we are using strictly the same standard - remember thar Wu is not eligible for the kinds of events that Kanak's ranking largely derives from and Wu also lost to players at those events that would eat Kanak for dinner. Which is why you need to paint a fuller picture.

Anyone can talk a good game without providing any real facts ?

Kanak Jha didn't get a WR#33 by losing.

Wu Jiaji WR#648

World Tour
Last 2 results shows participation
Next 3 results show going out in the group stage

NextLevel
08-07-2019, 08:32 PM
Anyone can talk a good game without providing any real facts ?

Kanak Jha didn't get a WR#33 by losing.

Wu Jiaji WR#648

World Tour
Last 2 results shows participation
Next 3 results show going out in the group stage

Mizuki Oikawa was one of the players who beat out Wu Jiaji in the group stage at the Croatian Open as one example. Mizuki Oikawa beat Timo Boll in the German league.

Kanak's rating is partly enhanced by his result in North American events. Same with Heming Hu, who is Oceania champ and WR 75 despite having no significant world tour performances.

I wonder what you will write when Juan Liu wins the US trials. You will make it sound like an upset of monumental proportions, won't you, given that she has no ranking but is beating ItTf top 100 players easily?

Loopadoop
08-07-2019, 09:01 PM
Ha ha your argument is Laughable.

Don't talk woulda coulda. If I remember correctly, Don Meridith once said, if ifs and buts were canned in nuts, we would have a merry christmas.

To refresh your memory, we are talking about Kanak Jha WR#33 and Wu Jiaji WR#648.

Simply stated: a player gets their world senior tour ranking by winning or losing not by speculation.

Please don't waste my time with your speculation.

....

Zaccai
08-07-2019, 09:05 PM
I hope Kanak Jha performs. His match against Ma Long showed real promise.

Zaccai
08-07-2019, 09:08 PM
Ah I see he failed in the semis. Still not too bad.

Zaccai
08-07-2019, 09:19 PM
I hope Hugo takes it!

Ren22
08-07-2019, 11:44 PM
Adriana Diaz beat Wu Yue 4-1 (11-8, 11-3, 11-9, 8-11, 11-6)

lVegita
08-08-2019, 12:13 AM
Hugo Calderano vs Wu Jiaji starting now

GusShnaps
08-08-2019, 12:38 AM
Damn. Jiaji Wu is in the lead. 2 x 1

Ren22
08-08-2019, 12:40 AM
yep...

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lVegita
08-08-2019, 12:46 AM
Missing Adam Bobrow so much right now

Ren22
08-08-2019, 01:01 AM
Wu Jiaji is up 3-2!!!

GusShnaps
08-08-2019, 01:05 AM
Wow!! COME ON HUGOOOOO!!!! 3 x 3

GusShnaps
08-08-2019, 01:18 AM
HUGO IS THE CHAMPION OF THE 2019 PAN AMERICAN GAMES!!!
AND A BACKFLIP TO CELEBRATE!!
What a legend.





Tough game though, not gonna lie.

Ren22
08-08-2019, 01:18 AM
Wow Hugo got in the winning mindset and completely dominated the 7th game, 11-2, to take the win!

Zaccai
08-08-2019, 08:12 AM
What a killer. Hugo was not my favorite but he really deserved this win. Good job!

Loopadoop
08-09-2019, 01:08 AM
Men Singles

Gold Hugo Calderano Brazil WR 6
Silver Wu Jiaji Dominican Republic WR 648
Bronze Kanak Jha USA WR 33
Bronze Eugene Wang Canada WR 237

Loopadoop
08-10-2019, 10:02 AM
USA teams men and women advance to semifinals.

PiZa
08-10-2019, 01:04 PM
Any live stream from this competition ?

Loopadoop
08-10-2019, 01:28 PM
Any live stream from this competition ?

Some TV there, I don't have a link.

Trismegistus
08-10-2019, 05:41 PM
Mizuki Oikawa was one of the players who beat out Wu Jiaji in the group stage at the Croatian Open as one example. Mizuki Oikawa beat Timo Boll in the German league.

Kanak's rating is partly enhanced by his result in North American events. Same with Heming Hu, who is Oceania champ and WR 75 despite having no significant world tour performances.

I wonder what you will write when Juan Liu wins the US trials. You will make it sound like an upset of monumental proportions, won't you, given that she has no ranking but is beating ItTf top 100 players easily?

I feel like it would have been a significant upset if Kanak *had* beaten Wu Jiaji, lol. Although perhaps Wu's level has dropped since he left the CNT.

Loopadoop
08-10-2019, 09:23 PM
I feel like it would have been a significant upset if Kanak *had* beaten Wu Jiaji, lol. Although perhaps Wu's level has dropped since he left the CNT.

My view, Jha tends to play conservatively, early in some matches, probably if he has never played them before, this causes him to get behind, he usually comes back but sometimes he doesn't, so he gets beaten or upset by a player with a worse world ranking.

Loopadoop
08-10-2019, 10:20 PM
USA Teams
Men win semifinal 3-1
Women lose semifinal 2-3

Lily Zhang lost the 5th deciding match match 0-3

....

GusShnaps
08-11-2019, 12:31 AM
C'mon Brunaaa!!!

GusShnaps
08-11-2019, 01:08 AM
I was not expecting that at all! Melanie Diaz won the last match against Bruna Takahashi to win the gold to Puerto Rico.

NextLevel
08-11-2019, 04:23 AM
My view, Jha tends to play conservatively, early in some matches, probably if he has never played them before, this causes him to get behind, he usually comes back but sometimes he doesn't, so he gets beaten or upset by a player with a worse world ranking.

Wu Jiaji took 3 games off Calderano. Kanak couldn't take 1. LEt's keep some perspective here.

Loopadoop
08-11-2019, 04:57 AM
Men Team Final

USA 3-2 ARG

Loopadoop
08-11-2019, 01:51 PM
Wu Jiaji took 3 games off Calderano. Kanak couldn't take 1. LEt's keep some perspective here.

That indicates he was playing at a high level for this tournament. His #648 World Ranking history doesn't show him playing at that level.