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Dan
09-06-2019, 02:54 PM
What's up guys, today I'm joined alongside the German Table Tennis powerhouse, Dimitrij Ovtcharov! Today we are looking at his new personal blade the DONIC Ovtcharov Number 1 Senso! It was a lot of fun taking on Dima!

Enjoy the review :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1rVHswHN0w

Have you tried this blade yet? Any questions let us know in the comments.

Giangt
09-06-2019, 03:31 PM
Great review! Looks like you guys had good times. :)

rogerino75
09-06-2019, 04:07 PM
Good review as always Dan. Had do turn down the sound, because my wife thought I was watching porn.

BryanY
09-06-2019, 04:09 PM
Great review. I like how he explained his past experiences with a faster blade and why he switched to this one.

I’m curious how it compares to the Harimoto Blade.

jedimasterplk
09-06-2019, 08:45 PM
All great - and all that - except for the fact that he plays with a viscaria with donic handles.

TheKhan123
09-06-2019, 09:15 PM
Seriously dude? At this moment, you really wanna critique someone for something that has literally no proof? Even if that is true, you might expect the review to be different than the reality and what both guys said is actually visible in Dima's gameplay in real life! So, maybe, you wanna consider taking another look at the review. And BTW, if you provide any evidence on your words, I'll step back!

piligrim
09-06-2019, 10:47 PM
Dan, its not quite clear what blade you was using? Did you used only Senso or both?

Creek
09-07-2019, 12:13 AM
What's up guys, today I'm joined alongside the German Table Tennis powerhouse, Dimitrij Ovtcharov! Today we are looking at his new personal blade the DONIC Ovtcharov Number 1 Senso! It was a lot of fun taking on Dima!

Enjoy the review :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1rVHswHN0w

Have you tried this blade yet? Any questions let us know in the comments.

Hi Dan,
very nice video as always!
how do both blades compare to your usually used TB ALC in terms of speed, trajectory and feeling?

guni4you
09-07-2019, 03:22 AM
What rubbers were they using?

Wister
09-07-2019, 08:31 AM
Dan, its not quite clear what blade you was using? Did you used only Senso or both?

He says he uses the Senso version


It could be nice to know what was the core layer and a bit more about what is specific about this carbon. Otherwise very good review, it's nice to have a pro explains his thought process. When you see that Otcharov and Ma long find that ALC outer are too hard to control, it makes me reconsider what kind of blade I should play at my level :)

Creek
09-07-2019, 08:52 AM
Since this blade is basically the same as DHS Long 5 and also built by DHS, the core is ayous

vvk1
09-07-2019, 09:35 AM
Dima: "I told you I have no middle!" Lol

Konrad Bak
09-07-2019, 10:24 AM
Dan you made the review 6 months ago or even 8 because I saw on instagram mini cut...

piligrim
09-07-2019, 10:56 AM
He says he uses the Senso version



Yes but on video you can see he is using not senso version also. Does why I got confused ...

TheKhan123
09-07-2019, 12:58 PM
Yeah, like you, I saw it long time ago and was wondering why there's no. video on it!

matzreenzi
09-07-2019, 02:06 PM
Meanwhile behind the scene...

Dima: Please Dan, please don't ever mention what rubber i'm using in the review video...
Dan: OK.

t95mwp
09-07-2019, 04:24 PM
He is one of the biggest hypocrites as far as using manufactured sponsored equipment. Here is the last video at Czech open clearly shows he is using Butterfly Dignics 05 red on backhand. Dan should not promote dishonest athletes such Dima, money sometimes isn`t worth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ7AFKb9mG0&t=4s 2:54

BryanY
09-07-2019, 04:58 PM
He is one of the biggest hypocrites as far as using manufactured sponsored equipment. Here is the last video at Czech open clearly shows he is using Butterfly Dignics 05 red on backhand. Dan should not promote dishonest athletes such Dima, money sometimes isn`t worth.

He wasn’t claiming to use Donic rubber. He just prefers to avoid the topic (maybe at the behest of Donic). This seems to be what most non-Butterfly sponsored players do.

At least it’s not an FZD situation where he uses a disguised blade from another company.

UpSideDownCarl
09-07-2019, 06:42 PM
He wasn’t claiming to use Donic rubber. He just prefers to avoid the topic (maybe at the behest of Donic). This seems to be what most non-Butterfly sponsored players do.

At least it’s not an FZD situation where he uses a disguised blade from another company.

I do believe that Dima has at least done that many many many many times. If he is no longer doing it that is fine. I don't know. I don't pay attention or care what different players use these days. But Dima has been caught using blades from other brands instead of Donic and hiding them in various ways; in ways that were just as deceptive as what FZD does.

Konrad Bak
09-07-2019, 07:37 PM
The click from d05 is very funny,
He plays Viscaria and he is talking about feeling.xD

bobpuls
09-08-2019, 06:04 AM
and also hollow handles gives you less feeling ..

yogi_bear
09-08-2019, 07:25 AM
It is always the feel and control that matters

UpSideDownCarl
09-08-2019, 07:41 AM
and also hollow handles gives you less feeling ..

Perhaps what you meant is, solid handles feel better. But that is different than saying that solid handles give you more feeling.

Its the opposite. A solid bodied guitar would not resonate and project the sound (vibrations). Think of what an electric guitar sounds like without the amplifier. Just like the hollow space of an acoustic guitar or violin allowing the vibrations to resonate, a hollow space in the handle increases the amount of vibration you can feel because it creates the air space for those vibrations to resonate and amplify. Also, if there is less wood in the same amount of space, that makes it easier to transmit the vibrations. It is easier to move air molecules than wood molecules. It is easier to move wood molecules than carbon molecules. A guitar made out of carbon would not sound good.

But, sometimes a hollow handle means too much vibration. So, a very small hollow space, or a solid handle will not cause you to have the bad feeling parts of the vibrations; only the good. So, a solid handle might feel better. But it will not transmit as much feeling, it will not transmit as much of the vibrations, to your hand.

bobpuls
09-08-2019, 08:07 AM
hmmm ... not sure ... never played with this type of open end .... but i feel better top ply when the handle is solid ... i feel the buttery softness of the limba top ... when handle is hollow i feel more the end of the blade and kick in hand ... generally i can feel the vibration of the blade but not the wood . But this is my feeling ..

Tinykin
09-08-2019, 09:05 AM
hmmm ... not sure ... never played with this type of open end .... but i feel better top ply when the handle is solid ... i feel the buttery softness of the limba top ... when handle is hollow i feel more the end of the blade and kick in hand ... generally i can feel the vibration of the blade but not the wood . But this is my feeling ..

I'm just wondering, and ignoring the rules for blades, how would a blade with a hollow centre feel like? Not those drum-like vellum bats from gossima days. But more a core that's cut like a ring or with a trellis pattern in order to maintain strength?

anchorschmidt
09-08-2019, 09:10 AM
Nice video Dan. I just had to keep adjusting the volume :D

"Oh you saw it, but me too"


I love that Dima is so talkative and passionate about the sport. I don't think that using a different rubber makes him a hypocrite. Obviously the pros have to use the best rubbers out there.

bobpuls
09-08-2019, 09:18 AM
I'm just wondering, and ignoring the rules for blades, how would a blade with a hollow centre feel like? Not those drum-like vellum bats from gossima days. But more a core that's cut like a ring or with a trellis pattern in order to maintain strength?
I`m playing a long time with this idea to make a blade from heavy core, but with many hollow spaces inside , like honeycomb... i have to find time to build it ... i think this could be interesting ... but really hard to do perfect .
and where in the rules is written the blade could not be hollow ?

Tinykin
09-08-2019, 09:22 AM
Honeycomb, that's the word I should have used.

bobpuls
09-08-2019, 09:23 AM
only one problem i did not solve is distributing of glue .... so it will not fill this empty spaces ... so the weight stay down

Konrad Bak
09-08-2019, 10:11 AM
I love dima passion
And I dont want to be hypocrite too
He use custom outer ply acryl blade, and I made screenshots of his blade from Czech open
But when he talks about one of his 27th blades
it makes me sick

UpSideDownCarl
09-08-2019, 01:25 PM
hmmm ... not sure ... never played with this type of open end .... but i feel better top ply when the handle is solid ... i feel the buttery softness of the limba top ... when handle is hollow i feel more the end of the blade and kick in hand ... generally i can feel the vibration of the blade but not the wood . But this is my feeling ..

This may be the distinction I was making between better feeling, and more feeling. :)

UpSideDownCarl
09-08-2019, 01:36 PM
Honeycomb, that's the word I should have used.

About 10 years ago, a guy who ran a club in lower Manhattan brought a few blades back from China that had a core that was not solid. The core was sort of a tick tack toe pattern of wood: crosshatched. The guy was excited that this was the new technology and soon there would be lots of blades like this.

Nobody seemed to like those blades. I cannot fully remember how they felt or why, but nobody seemed to like how they played. My memory was a dull feeling and that the blades were slow and not responsive. But that could have been any number of aspects of how the blade was designed. One thing I know, I never saw another blade like that after. So the company may have come to that same conclusion. :)

Tinykin
09-08-2019, 02:29 PM
Any recollection of the brand name?

UpSideDownCarl
09-08-2019, 02:47 PM
Any recollection of the brand name?

I do not remember. This guy had connections with Yinhe/Galaxy and DHS. I don't think it was DHS. It may have been Yinhe. But it also may have been a brand that had not gotten off the ground yet. I am even not sure if it had a brand or blade name listed. A lot has happened in that 10 years. I only remembered the blade when you guys started talking about a core like that. And I don't think the blade ever made it to market.

The side view of the blade was pretty interesting. :)

hipnotic
09-08-2019, 03:07 PM
Dima has read this post. He is playing with this blade in the final (at least the handle)

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Sedis
09-08-2019, 03:12 PM
I do not remember. This guy had connections with Yinhe/Galaxy and DHS. I don't think it was DHS. It may have been Yinhe. But it also may have been a brand that had not gotten off the ground yet. I am even not sure if it had a brand or blade name listed. A lot has happened in that 10 years. I only remembered the blade when you guys started talking about a core like that. And I don't think the blade ever made it to market.

The side view of the blade was pretty interesting. :)

The HRT Bamboo Dragon is a similar design, but you can't see the slots from the side.

NextLevel
09-08-2019, 03:27 PM
I think Dima is using this blade. Going through the whole story about losing to Samsonov and looking for something with more feeling to lie in a review is a bit too much.

NextLevel
09-08-2019, 03:29 PM
Good review as always Dan. Had do turn down the sound, because my wife thought I was watching porn.

I thought you were making a good joke, until my friend told me his mother thought he was watching porn!

NextLevel
09-08-2019, 03:31 PM
He says he uses the Senso version


It could be nice to know what was the core layer and a bit more about what is specific about this carbon. Otherwise very good review, it's nice to have a pro explains his thought process. When you see that Otcharov and Ma long find that ALC outer are too hard to control, it makes me reconsider what kind of blade I should play at my level :)

I agree with you though you have to remember the quality of the shots they are facing vs the quality we face.

Konrad Bak
09-08-2019, 04:47 PM
Duplicate

Konrad Bak
09-08-2019, 04:50 PM
I will send you on pm bigger version
It's outer ply AC

Konrad Bak
09-08-2019, 04:53 PM
19735

Tinykin
09-08-2019, 07:28 PM
19736

Details of plies get lost

TheKhan123
09-09-2019, 11:37 AM
Meanwhile behind the scene...

Dima: Please Dan, please don't ever mention what rubber i'm using in the review video...
Dan: OK.

I actually took a look and it seemed to have blue sponge like bluestorm as Dan said in the comments of the video. Perhaps, he used BS for that one time .

TheKhan123
09-09-2019, 11:39 AM
Dan you should've asked Dima about his loud oooohhhh-aaahhhhh xD