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yogi_bear
11-07-2019, 11:41 PM
Xiom Omega 7 Hyper
Weight: 79 grams
Cut Weight: 50 grams
Hardness: 55 degrees
Speed: Extremely Fast
Spin: Extreme
Type: ESN rubber
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This is THE RUBBER of 2019 for me. I have been testing the 60 degree version for a month before the 55 degrees was decided to be released. Apparently the 60 degree version seems too fast for most people. I was able to almost control it only in my backhand and after 2 weeks of playing. This is a beast and a hard rubber to adjust to initially unless you are a high level player. A friend of mine who is equivalent to a 2000+ player immeidately liked the Hyper 55 because he has been using the Hyper 60 for a few weeks now when I let him test it. The Hyper 55 on the other hand is a more controllable version but still very fast and is faster than almost all of the rubbers in the market right now. In my opinion, the Omega 7 Hyper 60 degree version is the closest rubber you can use to a professional Xiom rubber but I do not think it will sell a lot since many people cannot control it once they have tried it therefore having less market.
Anyway, the topsheet is a very grippy topsheet. It is not just grippy on your touch but the ball itself. Yes, the topsheet is thin with very short pip columns. I compared the pip column of the O7 Hyper and Asia and the Hyper's pip column is much shorter more like a Hurricane 3 design or the Nexy MXK H but there is a big difference. The topsheet of the Nexy MXK H is not as grippy compared to Hyper's topsheet. I will explain this as I go along with my review.The pores are much smaller compared to that of a normal ESn rubber having 47.5 and below sponge hardness. This is probably the reason why the whole rubber is more dense and also heavier. This is harder than the Tenergy 05H by 1 degree probably.
I tested the Omega 7 Hyper side by side with an Omega 7 Asia on several blades - Xiom Stradivarius, Offensive S and Xiom Solo. Boy, my drives during drills were almost going out of the table and had to adjust a lot. As what I have said, the Hyper is a beast. So far this is the fastest rubber in the market that I have tried. I can say it is a tad faster than the MXK H or Tenergy 05H for that matter and this is not for everybody. However, if you have the skills and the guts to use this you will be rewarded with offensive strokes that have great speed and power mroe than what you had before. The springiness of this rubber is unbelievable and it made Tenergy 64 look like its baby brother in terms of speed. I suspect that aside from the sponeg composition and design, Xiom probably used their own factory tuning that they used for their pro players. I have used their pro rubbers intended for their sponsored players and this is almost as good as those. The Stradivarius with the Hyper was a bit of a challenge for control at first when I was using it in my forehand so I sitched it to my backhand and that is when things got a little better. When you are in a rally on a bh to bh contest of power, you will feel the balls impact and power when you are on the receivign end of the this rubber. The friend of mine who uses this as his forehand rubber can actually control it well after a few hours of playing. This rubber is on a different level when used by a high level player. He used Tenergy 05 and 05h for a long time but he swears this rubber is just on anotehr few levels in terms of power and speed.
For the spin, yes this is very spinny. Unlike the MXK H which lacks spin even if you brush hard and need sponge engagement, the O7H can produce spin by thin brushing. The arc is medium heighrt compared to the O7A's high arc when looping. People will surely ask me on why my opinion on the MXK-H's spin was not good. It is because the topsheet of the MXK-H is just not as grippy as the O7H's. This is the reason why if pip columns are too short but the topsheet is not tacky or grippy you will just end up having a very fast and bouncy rubber but lacks spin unless you really hit hard so it will be a smasher's or a hitter's rubber. With the O7H, spin is not really a problem because it is very spinny. The Omega 7 Asia is easier to spin than the Hyper because it is softer by 2.5 degrees and at the same time you can still ahev the ball sink into the topsheet but once you are in your strongest topspin shots or counterloops, the Hyper will offer more power and spin. I can confidently say the spin of the Omega 7 Hyper is equal to that of the Tenergy 05H. It's just that on very strong shots you will have mroe vicious balls. When I was drilling backhand topspins, I felt that I could brush better than the Omega 7 Asia with much less power applied. This was the time I can say it was really spinny on my backhand because of the exagerrated arc of the ball when being blocked. in my opinion, other ESn rubbers do not come close. The Rasanter 53 if it has the same topsheet make up as its 50 degree brothers, I would doubt it will be as spinny as the Hyper.
Other things I love abou the Hyper is that when it comes to rallies it is an awesome rubber use to hammer opponents incoming topspins. Counterloopers really appreciated this rubber during the tests and even plain smashing versus topspins was suprisingly good. Despite being a very fast rubber, the Hyper has gears. It can do drop shots with no problem and also do flicks well. If you smash a lot then this is also good your smashes with the Hyper will be blazingly fast.
I think this is still cheaper than Tenergy 05. This is a pretty durable rubber. I have been using this for a month now and the topsheet is still very grippy. MXP would erode in about 3 weeks but the O7H seems to retain much of the grip really well even after playing 3-4x a week.

Vega X
Weight: 72 grams (uncut)
Cut Weight: 48 grams
Speed: Very Fast
Spin Very high
Type: ESN
Sponge hardness: approx 47.5 degrees (need confirmation)
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The Vega X is another new product from Xiom before the year ends. AT first I was a bit surprised that Xiom added another Vega rubber but it totally makes sense in the long run since the Vega Series need upgrades but at the same time keep the prices low to midrange. The last addition of the Vega rubbers before the X was the Vega Tour which has the 2nd hardest feel among the Vega rubbers with the Vega China being the hardest. The Vega Ten, yes it should be called Vega 10 just like in the Marvel universe Wolverine whould also be called Weapon 10 and not Weapon X, has a firm sponge. feels like 47.5 hardness but I need to confirm this first. The topsheet is a matte red topsheet with a grippy feel. Quality seems higher compared to vega Pro. I also do not know why they named this Vega X(10) unless this is the 10th year since the original Vega Series were released back in 2009.

I used the Xiom Solo 7 ply blade on this test with Xiom Stradivarius also. I noticed the low arc the moment I started hitting with drills on the table both on the forehand and backhand. This happened on both Stradiuvarius and Solo blades. There is a good amount of power from the Vega X especially when I was using it in the Solo as the Stradi blade is already a fast blade. It gave me some sort of distinction about its speed since the Solo blade is considered as OFF- than being an OFF blade. The Vega X is plenty fast and i would rate the speed as probably faster than that of an Acuda S1 rubber. It is faster than Vega Pro though I think the Vega Tour is bouncier.
I also tried looping with it the Vega Japan rubber o nthe other side just for comparison. The Vega X is quite spinny and seems spinnier by 1 or 2 levels than the Vega Pro. I noticed a low to medium arc when looping backspin with the Vega X while the Vega Japan has some sort of higher arc. I find the Vega Japan easier to loop with although looping with the Vega X is not an issue. I think it is probably with the softer topsheet of the Vega Japan that lets me loop is easily. Here is my take on this and this is my opinion - I think Xiom introduced this rubber as an intermediate level rubber that is below the level of the Omega V or IV series. Vega rubbers are still best selling rubbers in the world for new or returning players but admittedly, the Vega rubbers like Pro or Europe are already 10 years old and with the change of ball specs, it also affected the rubbers performance. This is the reason why maybe Xiom released a rubber that would be good for intermediate players at mid-range price (Xiom said this is almost in the price range of the original Vega series) so that it will be affordable compared to their much expensive rubbers like Omega V or VII rubbers.

Overall, I highly recommend this as a replacement for Vega Pro. The durability and grip of the topsheet seem very good. I have removed the rubber a few times and glued it a few times and have not noticed any chips on the sponge so aside from the topsheet reformulation for better performance, they also improved the sponge's durability.

TeoTeoTeo
11-08-2019, 12:04 AM
when will this be released? i need the vega X LOOKS SO COOL

BryanY
11-08-2019, 01:30 AM
How does the 55 degree Omega VII Hyper compare to the 54 degree Omega VII Tour? (Only one degree difference).

yogi_bear
11-08-2019, 06:49 AM
Quite lot actually. The speed difference is actually noticeable and also 7 Tour has better control.

langel
11-08-2019, 07:12 AM
Thanks, yogi, I'm glad that you made that review using O7A for comparison.
Very informative, at least for me.
You say that O7H has a lower looping arc than O7A /maybe middistance-midforce?/.
For me O7A has a lower looping arc than O7T, and O7Pro has a bit lower arc than O7A.
Do you have the same experience and does it mean that O7H has a looping arc close to O7Pro?

yogi_bear
11-08-2019, 08:51 AM
Yeah close to 07P's arc. I was looping mid distance in the fh to control it.

yogi_bear
11-08-2019, 08:52 AM
The arc was lower than 07A when i was brush looping it. When sponge is engaged, arc is a bit higher.

An0n
11-08-2019, 10:09 AM
Thanks for the review Yogi, finally we are able to see this mysterious rubber you have been talking about. I doubt the Omega Hyper would work for me but I'm still tempted to give it a shot when it becomes available. Looking forward to the Vega X review as well.

yogi_bear
11-08-2019, 11:14 PM
Updated with review for Vega X

TeoTeoTeo
11-09-2019, 05:45 AM
When will the vega x be released? It is already Nov

yogi_bear
11-09-2019, 12:04 PM
Maybe Dec or January

sampletext
11-10-2019, 02:11 PM
Maybe Dec or January
Price for both new rubbers? Also to confirm, the Omega 7 hyper would be the hardest in the Omega 7 series right?

Cornerer
11-10-2019, 03:25 PM
yogi are u sure 50g cut for Hyper wasn't mistake? Other Rubbers that were close to 80g uncut tend to be closer to 55g cut from my experience.

yogi_bear
11-10-2019, 04:27 PM
I weighed them twice

yogi_bear
11-10-2019, 04:28 PM
Price for both new rubbers? Also to confirm, the Omega 7 hyper would be the hardest in the Omega 7 series right?

Yes hatdest. Price is wihin omega 7 range. Same as vega as in veha price range.

langel
11-11-2019, 05:19 AM
I weighed them twice

Maybe you have cut the Hyper on a blade with a smaller head than the Vega X, because the uncut/cut ratio is different.

yogi_bear
11-11-2019, 04:49 PM
Could be a factor but the weight is in range since usually it is 70% of the uncut weight

Rwisniewski
11-15-2019, 10:59 AM
Hey Yogi, very nice review. I am very interested of Xiom Vega X. I've been playing Xiom Vega Pro for some time and in my opinion it's a brilliant rubber for me. Few weeks ago I read ( I think) Your post and You said there that VP it's a little bit outdated rubber in plastic balls era. This opinion pushed me to try newest rubber from Xiom- Omega VII Europe. Unfortunately, I didn't like this change. It seemed to me that my forehand attacks were weaker and opponent was able to deal it with them suprisingly easy. Moreover, I lost control on block... So after 4 or 5 trainigs I came back to VP. I didn't try Omega VII pro because probably it could be a little bit too fast for me... But now when You say that Xiom Vega X will be a nice replacement for VP I can't wait to test it. Or maybe I should try also Omega VII Pro? What do You think? My blade is Butterfly TB ZLF and I use VP on my forehand side.

yogi_bear
11-15-2019, 10:50 PM
I would rather stay with the O7 Europe. The Vega X is less spiny than Omega V and VII

thomas.pong
11-16-2019, 09:24 AM
Thank you for the breaking news and reviews Yogi!

I'm very interested in Vega X as I think Vega Pro is an excellent rubber. You mentioned VX is faster and spinier than VP yet has a low arc, but would you say it has a similar, lower or higher arc than VP?

yogi_bear
11-16-2019, 12:17 PM
I would say similar arc to VP. I find the VP' arc as medium to low.

thomas.pong
11-16-2019, 03:39 PM
I would say similar arc to VP. I find the VP' arc as medium to low.

For sure. Thanks!

Cornerer
11-16-2019, 07:50 PM
Hey Yogi, very nice review. I am very interested of Xiom Vega X. I've been playing Xiom Vega Pro for some time and in my opinion it's a brilliant rubber for me. Few weeks ago I read ( I think) Your post and You said there that VP it's a little bit outdated rubber in plastic balls era. This opinion pushed me to try newest rubber from Xiom- Omega VII Europe. Unfortunately, I didn't like this change. It seemed to me that my forehand attacks were weaker and opponent was able to deal it with them suprisingly easy. Moreover, I lost control on block... So after 4 or 5 trainigs I came back to VP. I didn't try Omega VII pro because probably it could be a little bit too fast for me... But now when You say that Xiom Vega X will be a nice replacement for VP I can't wait to test it. Or maybe I should try also Omega VII Pro? What do You think? My blade is Butterfly TB ZLF and I use VP on my forehand side.
O7 Euro sponge is simply too soft. To me only O7 pro or beyond the sponge is sufficient hard to being out the spin potential and power of the rubber topsheet. Euro felt noticeably weaker to me than even the Pro which has the 2nd softest sponge right after Euro's.

yogi_bear
11-17-2019, 10:48 AM
I think O7 Euro is simply meant for lower level players whereas O7 Pro and others are meant for elite players.

yogi_bear
11-17-2019, 11:58 AM
as a final note on the Hyper, I simply would recommend this to elite level players. Even world class players can appreciate and use this to their heart's content if they are not using Tenergy 05H since the hyper can outperform T05H in many aspects.

Rwisniewski
11-18-2019, 02:29 PM
I would rather stay with the O7 Europe. The Vega X is less spiny than Omega V and VII
Really? But when I use it I feel lack of power in my shots... maybe 07 but pro version?

yogi_bear
11-18-2019, 05:46 PM
Depends on who is using it. I prefer the omega 7 asia myself and. Only like the pro as a bh rubber if i will use an esn rubber for fh.

Cornerer
11-22-2019, 05:28 AM
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Arkady
12-11-2019, 02:58 PM
The Greek distributor of Xiom, Lynxsports just announced the price of Vega X at 38.90€ Not bad at all!!!! I was expecting it to be over 40€...

https://lynxsports.gr/en/products/XIOM-VEGA-X/

thomas.pong
12-11-2019, 06:09 PM
The Greek distributor of Xiom, Lynxsports just announced the price of Vega X at 38.90€ Not bad at all!!!! I was expecting it to be over 40€...

https://lynxsports.gr/en/products/XIOM-VEGA-X/

Thanks for the info!

Any idea when it'll be available / when he'll have it in stock?

Arkady
12-11-2019, 07:42 PM
Thanks for the info!

Any idea when it'll be available / when he'll have it in stock?

Yes it will have it in stock probably at the end of January

yogi_bear
12-11-2019, 08:05 PM
The Vega X was designed as an updated Vega Pro so it is expected to be below 40usd

thomas.pong
12-11-2019, 08:35 PM
The Vega X was designed as an updated Vega Pro so it is expected to be below 40usd

Hi Yogi, what's its cut weight on a 157 x 150mm blade compared to Vega Pro?

yogi_bear
12-11-2019, 09:11 PM
Not weighed it cut but multiply it by 70% and that is the approx at.

yogi_bear
12-11-2019, 09:12 PM
Around 49 or 50 grams

lasta
12-12-2019, 05:57 AM
That's pretty heavy for a 47 degree rubber. Is the topsheet very hard? How is it relative to the Vega Pro? I'll pick up a sheet if its nice hard and direct.

Arkady
12-12-2019, 09:40 AM
That's pretty heavy for a 47 degree rubber. Is the topsheet very hard? How is it relative to the Vega Pro? I'll pick up a sheet if its nice hard and direct.

Vega Pro is among the heaviest European rubbers, more than 0.25gr/cm2 for max thickness I think this is because of the dense and hard sponge, not the topsheet.

I should expect Vega X to be equally heavy...

On the contrary, Vega Europe is very light almost 0.20gr/cm2

yogi_bear
12-12-2019, 09:44 AM
That's pretty heavy for a 47 degree rubber. Is the topsheet very hard? How is it relative to the Vega Pro? I'll pick up a sheet if its nice hard and direct.
Both sponge and topsheet seem more dense than the VP.

yoass
12-12-2019, 09:55 AM
Vega Pro is among the heaviest European rubbers, more than 25gr/cm2 for max thickness I think this is because of the dense and hard sponge, not the topsheet.

I should expect Vega X to be equally heavy...

On the contrary, Vega Europe is very light almost 20gr/cm2

That can't be right, an entire sheet of Vega Pro is ~71gr. I think these numbers are off by two orders of magnitude. 0.25g/cm2 would be about right for Vega Pro (max). Anyway, I agree that Vega X should not be expected to be any lighter than Vega Pro, but let's by all means find out.

https://tabletennis-reviews.com/reference/rubber-sheet-mass-size-database/ offers a useful glance, by the way, into these matters.

lasta
12-12-2019, 10:04 AM
Vega Pro is among the heaviest European rubbers, more than 25gr/cm2 for max thickness I think this is because of the dense and hard sponge, not the topsheet.

I should expect Vega X to be equally heavy...

On the contrary, Vega Europe is very light almost 20gr/cm2

Really? My Vega Pro is only 44g cut. And I didn't find the sponge very dense either. The same one is used for Vega Asia which is only 42g cut, very light.

Arkady
12-12-2019, 10:09 AM
Both sponge and topsheet seem more dense than the VP.


That can't be right, an entire sheet of Vega Pro is ~71gr. I think these numbers are off by two orders of magnitude. 0.25g/cm2 would be about right for Vega Pro (max). Anyway, I agree that Vega X should not be expected to be any lighter than Vega Pro, but let's by all means find out.

https://tabletennis-reviews.com/reference/rubber-sheet-mass-size-database/ offers a useful glance, by the way, into these matters.

Yup that's the database that I looked into to report the numbers.
For Vega Pro there are two references for about 0.235gr/cm2 and one for about 0.252gr/cm2
Vega Europe is unquestionably lighter, maybe 0.21gr/cm2

Arkady
12-12-2019, 10:27 AM
Really? My Vega Pro is only 44g cut. And I didn't find the sponge very dense either. The same one is used for Vega Asia which is only 42g cut, very light.

Is it max thickness?
If you look at the database, it demonstrates that it VP is a very heavy rubber, no question about that.
I find the sponge very dense, the pores are very small in comparison to other sponges.

And from my personal experience, I can verify that it is the heaviest that I've used.

lasta
12-12-2019, 10:36 AM
Yes, max thickness. I guess that's rubber QC for ya. Haha.

yoass
12-12-2019, 10:39 AM
Yup that's the database that I looked into to report the numbers.
For Vega Pro there are two references for about 23.5gr/cm2 and one for about 25.2gr/cm2
Vega Europe is unquestionably lighter, maybe 21gr/cm2

That's off by a factor of 100, but I guess I noted that already.

Arkady
12-12-2019, 11:06 AM
That's off by a factor of 100, but I guess I noted that already.

Yes, you are correct, my mistake... My numbers should be 0.21 and 0.25 gramms
At first I didn't quite get what you meant by "two orders of magnitude"...;)

Arkady
12-12-2019, 12:50 PM
Both sponge and topsheet seem more dense than the VP.

The sponge of VX is black like VP's?

ronaldo9chen
12-21-2019, 01:15 PM
So Vega Tour is slightly better than X then
Consider they all use the Cycloid technology

Btw how do I like post on the tabletennisdaily forum
(can't find the button....)

Flatstyk
12-21-2019, 02:51 PM
Try logging in, then you will see button...

yogi_bear
12-21-2019, 04:42 PM
The sponge of VX is black like VP's?
The x's sponge is different.

sampletext
12-26-2019, 04:19 PM
The x's sponge is different.
does this make the vx completely different from the vp? or is it easy to adjust too coming from vp.

thomas.pong
12-26-2019, 05:56 PM
Wondering if the VX is more of an updated version of the Vega Japan rather than of the VP.

yogi_bear
12-26-2019, 10:27 PM
Wondering if the VX is more of an updated version of the Vega Japan rather than of the VP.

more of Vega Pro according to Xiom. Do not get me wrong I love Vega Japan more than VP but the characteristics are just way different.

TTLOVE
12-27-2019, 09:31 AM
This is what I found in a Japanese website:
Omega VII Hyper is the latest XIOM rubber to be released in late December 2019.
A new family is added to the OMEGA VII series, but the concept differs greatly from the previous lineup.
The reference for the development is a certain Chinese-made adhesive rubber used by many Chinese national players.
To reproduce the world's strongest spin ball created by an extremely hard sponge and a strong spinning topsheet, we first redesigned the sponge design.
In other words, the density of the pores is extremely high, achieving a sponge hardness close to the original Chinese rubber.
The hardness is 55 degrees, which is the same as the tour, but it is even stronger.
However, the docking of a thin, supple and easy-to-grip topsheet that made full use of the cycloid technology kept the overall rubber hardness (tester feel) below 50 degrees.
This special tuning gives the player the feeling that the ball at impact will momentarily stop on the rubber surface, even though the topsheet of the OMEGA Hyper is not sticky.
This is the Chinese rubber feeling.
In addition, the dramatically hard tension sponge has enough power to launch the ball, so it is unlikely that you will feel lack of speed.
The performance of adhesive rubber made in China drops dramatically when the adhesive strength of the top sheet decreases, but there is no such concern with Omega VII Hyper.
Stable performance and outstanding control are always ensured, so it can be used in top conditions for a long time.
Omega VII Hyper is the ultimate rubber that has surpassed it in terms of ease of handling while being comparable in hardness and power to Chinese rubber.
What's going on behind the scenes, the strongest in the world? This new monster should tell you the answer.
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This table shows all xiom rubbers, in order speed, spin, sponge hardness.
Omega VII hyper and Vega X are available on TTJAPAN since this december

thomas.pong
12-28-2019, 11:13 PM
more of Vega Pro according to Xiom. Do not get me wrong I love Vega Japan more than VP but the characteristics are just way different.

Yea Vega Pro (linear) and Japan (dynamic) are very different indeed.

Now, would you say you like Vega X more than Vega Japan?
Also is Vega Japan still more dynamic than X?

Caxoera
12-29-2019, 02:28 AM
https://www.xiom.eu/omega-vii-hyper

MSRP on the European website is €57,90. The same as Omega 7 Pro and lower than Omega 7 Tour.

yogi_bear
12-29-2019, 03:31 AM
Yea Vega Pro (linear) and Japan (dynamic) are very different indeed.

Now, would you say you like Vega X more than Vega Japan?
Also is Vega Japan still more dynamic than X?

I like vegabjapan as a forehand rubber because of the higher arc while vega X is a good Bh rubber.

yogi_bear
12-29-2019, 03:32 AM
https://www.xiom.eu/omega-vii-hyper

MSRP on the European website is €57,90. The same as Omega 7 Pro and lower than Omega 7 Tour.

Probably a regional pricing variation. In my place, Hyper is more expensive.

yogi_bear
12-29-2019, 03:33 AM
This is what I found in a Japanese website:
Omega VII Hyper is the latest XIOM rubber to be released in late December 2019.
A new family is added to the OMEGA VII series, but the concept differs greatly from the previous lineup.
The reference for the development is a certain Chinese-made adhesive rubber used by many Chinese national players.
To reproduce the world's strongest spin ball created by an extremely hard sponge and a strong spinning topsheet, we first redesigned the sponge design.
In other words, the density of the pores is extremely high, achieving a sponge hardness close to the original Chinese rubber.
The hardness is 55 degrees, which is the same as the tour, but it is even stronger.
However, the docking of a thin, supple and easy-to-grip topsheet that made full use of the cycloid technology kept the overall rubber hardness (tester feel) below 50 degrees.
This special tuning gives the player the feeling that the ball at impact will momentarily stop on the rubber surface, even though the topsheet of the OMEGA Hyper is not sticky.
This is the Chinese rubber feeling.
In addition, the dramatically hard tension sponge has enough power to launch the ball, so it is unlikely that you will feel lack of speed.
The performance of adhesive rubber made in China drops dramatically when the adhesive strength of the top sheet decreases, but there is no such concern with Omega VII Hyper.
Stable performance and outstanding control are always ensured, so it can be used in top conditions for a long time.
Omega VII Hyper is the ultimate rubber that has surpassed it in terms of ease of handling while being comparable in hardness and power to Chinese rubber.
What's going on behind the scenes, the strongest in the world? This new monster should tell you the answer.
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This table shows all xiom rubbers, in order speed, spin, sponge hardness.
Omega VII hyper and Vega X are available on TTJAPAN since this december

I have been telling people before that the Hyper is powerful than T05H and if not the same amount of spin, it is even spinnier IMO.

thomas.pong
12-30-2019, 07:41 AM
I like vegabjapan as a forehand rubber because of the higher arc while vega X is a good Bh rubber.

Thanks Yogi!

One last question (maybe...). How would you compare Vega X to Rakza 7?

yogi_bear
12-30-2019, 08:01 AM
They actually felt different with Rakza 7 having a bit higher arc. Speedwise about the same.

SFF_lib
12-30-2019, 10:43 AM
Very hard sponge, elastic topsheeet eith good feel.

By the sound of it, Hyper sounds very similar to R53?


I have been telling people before that the Hyper is powerful than T05H and if not the same amount of spin, it is even spinnier IMO.

SwordBreak
12-30-2019, 12:23 PM
will 07hyper goes well with viscaria on fh and bh?i used T80 on my fh and palio ak47 red on my vis and looking to replaced them

merrybat
12-30-2019, 02:01 PM
I like vegabjapan as a forehand rubber because of the higher arc while vega X is a good Bh rubber.

Interesting, most prefer softer dynamic rubbers for their backhand.

Iirc you also reviewed the Joola Golden Tango PS a while ago, can you compare it to the Vega X in terms of perceived hardness?

thomas.pong
12-30-2019, 04:00 PM
They actually felt different with Rakza 7 having a bit higher arc. Speedwise about the same.

What about spin between R7 and VX?

yogi_bear
12-30-2019, 07:30 PM
Very hard sponge, elastic topsheeet eith good feel.

By the sound of it, Hyper sounds very similar to R53?
They have different topsheets and only Xiom has that formulation now. Also the sponge of Hyler is 55.

yogi_bear
12-30-2019, 07:31 PM
will 07hyper goes well with viscaria on fh and bh?i used T80 on my fh and palio ak47 red on my vis and looking to replaced them
Depends on your level. It offers more speed and kick than T05H even.

yogi_bear
12-30-2019, 07:32 PM
What about spin between R7 and VX?

I am comparing Rakza 7 and Vega X already.

Caxoera
12-30-2019, 11:46 PM
I’m very interested on the Hyper because of the very grippy topsheet but I’m afraid I will not be able to control the speed. I’m using a DNA H on my forehand but after a few weeks I feel I’m not controlling very well. Do you thing the Hyper 2.15 thickness could be a good choice?

SwordBreak
12-31-2019, 02:18 AM
tq,do we have to boost 07hyper?

yogi_bear
12-31-2019, 03:56 AM
I’m very interested on the Hyper because of the very grippy topsheet but I’m afraid I will not be able to control the speed. I’m using a DNA H on my forehand but after a few weeks I feel I’m not controlling very well. Do you thing the Hyper 2.15 thickness could be a good choice?
I think even at 2.1mm it would still be faster than DNA H but it is just speculation. I am basing it on its sponge hardness and wild. Arc.

yogi_bear
12-31-2019, 03:58 AM
tq,do we have to boost 07hyper?

Only after more than a month when the factory tuning starts to lessen

SwordBreak
12-31-2019, 04:00 AM
orait,thanks yogi..cant wait for tt11 to stock these rubbers.

yogi_bear
01-01-2020, 06:58 AM
I am cautioning everybody about using the max version. If you are not sure about your control get the 2.1 version.

merrybat
01-05-2020, 08:13 PM
According to a German dealer Xiom decided to exclusively sell the Hyper in Asia and is not going to release it in Europe - they only got a single rubber for testing purposes. Yogi can you confirm that and are you aware of future plans regarding the Hyper?

yogi_bear
01-05-2020, 09:33 PM
I will check. Even if it sells in Asia only, you can always but it online.

yogi_bear
01-05-2020, 10:24 PM
Unfortunately, it will not be sold in Europe but in Asia and States yes. You can order it online.

merrybat
01-05-2020, 10:39 PM
That's a deal breaker then, here I pay 40€ for an O7 rubber but when I import I have to pay 46€+shipping+19%tax. I'm not gonna pay butterfly prices.

Om the bright side the X is going to be 27€ incl deals so that's nice.

langel
01-06-2020, 06:40 AM
Unfortunately, it will not be sold in Europe but in Asia and States yes. You can order it online.

I think Xiom should make these rubbers available in Europe at least on "special order" through the ofiicial locals.
I don't belive fans would pay a Butterfly price for the Hyper and O7 price for Vega X.

vvk1
01-06-2020, 08:15 AM
Most likely, Xiom's current harder Omega VII rubbers - Asia and Tour - did not sell very well in Europe. The market is saturated with 50+-hard rubbers from every major manufacturer. So why waste money on promoting/making even harder Hyper available ...

Airoc
01-06-2020, 10:03 AM
I don't belive fans would pay a Butterfly price for the Hyper and O7 price for Vega X.

The Vega X will be sold in Europe, so don´t worry.

And the 07 tour is already more expensive than t05, needing a 15% discount to be equal.
So people are paying Butterfly prices for 07 rubbers. Or maybe they´re not and that´s why there´s not going to be one more for now?

langel
01-06-2020, 10:55 AM
The Vega X will be sold in Europe, so don´t worry.

And the 07 tour is already more expensive than t05, needing a 15% discount to be equal.
So people are paying Butterfly prices for 07 rubbers. Or maybe they´re not and that´s why there´s not going to be one more for now?

No man, no.
Here O7 Tour is less than 42 euro, noone here is playing Xiom with BTY prices and will never do!

http://tennisdiscount.eu/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5_10&products_id=1192

TTLOVE
01-06-2020, 11:08 AM
Googling omega 7 hyper I found this: https://www.xiom.eu/omega-vii-hyper
This is xiom europe official website: as you can see they are planning to realese it on mid january

Airoc
01-06-2020, 04:19 PM
Googling omega 7 hyper I found this: https://www.xiom.eu/omega-vii-hyper
This is xiom europe official website: as you can see they are planning to realese it on mid january

You may access this page through the google back door, but there is no sign of the rubber on the website itself, in fact it still says "NEW" for 7 Tour.

Also, on a German forum you can find an official apology for causing confusion, and the one big German dealer who offered it for pre-order has de-listed it.

Most importantly though, YogiBear confirmed the release being Asia and US for now.
And from what I know about this forum, if you need info on XIOM he´s the go to person. ;)

But you may keep hoping.

Caxoera
01-06-2020, 04:46 PM
You may access this page through the google back door, but there is no sign of the rubber on the website itself, in fact it still says "NEW" for 7 Tour.

Also, on a German forum you can find an official apology for causing confusion, and the one big German dealer who offered it for pre-order has de-listed it.

Most importantly though, YogiBear confirmed the release being Asia and US for now.
And from what I know about this forum, if you need info on XIOM he´s the go to person. ;)

But you may keep hoping.

An Made in Germany rubber being release first in the US and Asia than Europe?

Mal sehn was passiert aber es macht keinen sinn. Also Dandoy und TT11 haben normalerweise praeferenz... naja.. mal sehen

Airoc
01-06-2020, 05:14 PM
An Made in Germany rubber being release first in the US and Asia than Europe?

With South Korea being the "home" and more important market, especially since the season is starting there now whereas in Germany/Europe we are mostly mid-season, shipping available quantities there first and releasing the rubber in Europe when the season is over and people are keen on testing again makes some sense to me.

The US as a preferred market, I have no idea either. ;)

Kuba Hajto
01-06-2020, 05:17 PM
And the 07 tour is already more expensive than t05
https://www.modest.com.pl/ProduktyGr/OKLADZINY/GLADKIE/Okladzina%2BXiom%2BOmega%2BVII%2BTour

Here is VII Tour for 45$, although support is sometimes ridiculed by some of the forum members here, the prices are right. (english mode on their site is a bit broken)

Airoc
01-06-2020, 05:29 PM
Currently big German retailers have all Omega 7 rubbers discounted by 20 to 30 per cent also, but I am not sure this discount will be permanent.

Not counting in those price reductions Asia, Europe and Pro are 2 Euro short of tenergy, and Tour is 10 Euro more expensive. That was my point.

yogi_bear
01-06-2020, 08:26 PM
Googling omega 7 hyper I found this: https://www.xiom.eu/omega-vii-hyper
This is xiom europe official website: as you can see they are planning to realese it on mid january

I wish this is true but they have already confirmed that they will not release it in Europe due to business strategy.

AmiciSumus
01-06-2020, 09:33 PM
One to buy at Ebay.com


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Xiom-Omega-VII-7-Hyper-Table-Tennis-Ping-Pong-Rubber-flexcrusader47-/392582194091 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Xiom-Omega-VII-7-Hyper-Table-Tennis-Ping-Pong-Rubber-flexcrusader47-/392582194091)

whocarez
01-10-2020, 01:25 AM
What is the deal with the 60 degree version of Omega 7 Hyper? I could only find a single reference to Omega 7 Hyper on Xiom's website, where they mention 55 degrees. Is the 60 degree version confirmed to be released?

Caxoera
01-10-2020, 02:10 AM
What is the deal with the 60 degree version of Omega 7 Hyper? I could only find a single reference to Omega 7 Hyper on Xiom's website, where they mention 55 degrees. Is the 60 degree version confirmed to be released?

The 60° version may be very good for those planing to play table tennis with a golf ball. Are you this king of person???

yogi_bear
01-10-2020, 06:51 AM
The 60 degree version was an initial plan to be released but they settled for a 55 degree version because the 60 degree version is too much more regular player. The 55 degree version in the market now is more than enough for most people.

whocarez
01-10-2020, 10:39 AM
Of course! We do know that ITTF really, really loves to change the ball material (and other useless changes). I am just planning ahead for what is to come :cool:

Marko
01-11-2020, 07:27 AM
I don't know is it worth to wait for vega x, because i thought to buy vega pro and saw vega x being relesed so I concacted one croatian seller and asked is he going to have them in store and what would the price be. He said he didn't know. I don't think it is worth to pay 38 € for vega x when I can get vega pro for 28 €

thomas.pong
01-11-2020, 08:36 AM
I don't know is it worth to wait for vega x, because i thought to buy vega pro and saw vega x being relesed so I concacted one croatian seller and asked is he going to have them in store and what would the price be. He said he didn't know. I don't think it is worth to pay 38 € for vega x when I can get vega pro for 28 €

It's entirely up to you. Vega Pro is a very good rubber, especially at 28€. Vega X is set to be the upgraded version on VP and should be available sometime between Jan. 15th-20th for 39€ from stores like TT11, Contra, Dandoy... Some of these stores might run introductory sales when it comes out, maybe up to -20% but no guarantees there. Personally, I prefer to wait for it to come out.

TTLOVE
01-11-2020, 08:41 AM
I don't know is it worth to wait for vega x, because i thought to buy vega pro and saw vega x being relesed so I concacted one croatian seller and asked is he going to have them in store and what would the price be. He said he didn't know. I don't think it is worth to pay 38 € for vega x when I can get vega pro for 28 €
Vega x is already available on ttjapan for €27.87

langel
01-11-2020, 09:02 AM
Vega x is already available on ttjapan for €27.87


Yes, and Hyper is 46.46 euro, just as the other O7s.

yogi_bear
01-11-2020, 10:27 AM
Strange the Omega 7 Tour is more expensive than Hyper if I base it on a Korean catalogue.

merlin el mago
01-11-2020, 05:43 PM
Omega VII Hyper available in EU for 57€90 here:

https://lynxsports.gr/en/products/OMEGA-VII-HYPER/

yogi_bear
01-11-2020, 10:00 PM
Well that is good news. They might have gotten it somewhere in Asia.

Arkady
01-12-2020, 05:11 PM
It's entirely up to you. Vega Pro is a very good rubber, especially at 28€. Vega X is set to be the upgraded version on VP and should be available sometime between Jan. 15th-20th for 39€ from stores like TT11, Contra, Dandoy... Some of these stores might run introductory sales when it comes out, maybe up to -20% but no guarantees there. Personally, I prefer to wait for it to come out.

I've e-mailed TT11 twice regarding Vega X and they've replied that they will not have it available in the near futute...


Omega VII Hyper available in EU for 57€90 here:

https://lynxsports.gr/en/products/OMEGA-VII-HYPER/

It says "contact for availability", which means most probably that it's not really available...

Simon Sangals
01-13-2020, 09:22 AM
I've e-mailed TT11 twice regarding Vega X and they've replied that they will not have it available in the near futute...



It says "contact for availability", which means most probably that it's not really available...

Vega X will be available for all european dealer in 2 days: Wednesday

Ingo_Ger
01-13-2020, 09:31 AM
Simon! Nice to see you here and good to hear your info.
Could not resist and preordered one. Will compare the x to the Hexer Powergrip. From the descriptions, both might play similar.

thomas.pong
01-13-2020, 11:02 AM
Could not resist and preordered one. Will compare the x to the Hexer Powergrip. From the descriptions, both might play similar.

I feel like their sponges and topsheets are quite different. It'll be interesting to read your thoughts on how it plays and compares.

merlin el mago
01-15-2020, 01:46 PM
I've e-mailed TT11 twice regarding Vega X and they've replied that they will not have it available in the near futute...



It says "contact for availability", which means most probably that it's not really available...

You are right, contacted the seller for OMEGA VII HYPER and they are confirming is not available in Europe yet & don't know yet when will be available.

Marko
01-16-2020, 07:49 PM
Has anyone maybe got vega x already?

merlin el mago
01-18-2020, 01:33 PM
Xiom Vega X

https://www.ebay.es/itm/XIOM-Vega-X-Ten-NEU-UVP-38-90/324044520686?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131003132420%26meid%3Dba4df2af00dc4a76be7f3b0c8dc84e9e%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D392582194091%26itm%3D324044520686%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851 (https://www.ebay.es/itm/XIOM-Vega-X-Ten-NEU-UVP-38-90/324044520686?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131003132420%26meid%3Dba4df2af00dc4a76be7f3b0c8dc84e9e%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D392582194091%26itm%3D324044520686%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851)

Xiom Omega VII Hyper

https://www.ebay.es/itm/Xiom-Omega-VII-7-Hyper-Tenis-De-Mesa-Ping-Pong-Goma-flexcrusader-47-/392582194091?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10&var=661551330055

Arkady
01-18-2020, 03:07 PM
The Greek distributor of Xiom, Lynxsports has a special offer for pre-orders of Vega X at the price of 29.90€.
It will be available at early February.

https://www.lynxsports.gr/products/XIOM-VEGA-X/

Marko
01-18-2020, 06:13 PM
You can already get it at contra. It says if you get 2 of them you will pay 31 euros for each.

https://www.contra.de/en/xiom-belag-vega-x.html

yogi_bear
01-23-2020, 05:24 PM
I tried the Xiom Omega 7 Hyper 2.1mm for 2 weeks now and it is a lot more controllable than the max version. The rubber is the spinniest rubber I have tried and even spinnier than Dignics or Tenergy 05 hard. At least the weight went down from 79 grams to 71 grams when the sponge was at 2.1mm I felt my push chops were very spinny and at the same time the grip for the ball was better compared to the max version because the max version was way too fast for me. if a higher level player would play max for Hyper then it is no problem but regular players or even advanced amateur players will certainly like the 2.1mm version of the Hyper.

quanghuysk
01-23-2020, 09:10 PM
Hi Yogi,
T05 Hard 2.1 and Hyper 2.1, which one is heavier? I'm using T05H for 6 months so far and very sastify with it. But my EJ push me so hard to try out Xiom Hyper and Tour :) Luckily, Hyper is available here in Slovakia.

TTLOVE
01-23-2020, 09:20 PM
Yogi since you are an expert of xiom product, I would like to hear your opinion. What do you think is more suited for a omega 7 asia: innerlayer composite like innerforce alc or outer layer like viscaria?

shinshiro
01-23-2020, 09:26 PM
I tried the Xiom Omega 7 Hyper 2.1mm for 2 weeks now and it is a lot more controllable than the max version. The rubber is the spinniest rubber I have tried and even spinnier than Dignics or Tenergy 05 hard. At least the weight went down from 79 grams to 71 grams when the sponge was at 2.1mm I felt my push chops were very spinny and at the same time the grip for the ball was better compared to the max version because the max version was way too fast for me. if a higher level player would play max for Hyper then it is no problem but regular players or even advanced amateur players will certainly like the 2.1mm version of the Hyper.

Can you compare the speed of Hyper 2.1mm vs other famous rubbers on max thickness?
I haven't had the chance yet to test the same rubber with different thickness, so I have no idea how much the speed changes with decrease in sponge thickness...

Kuba Hajto
01-23-2020, 09:32 PM
https://www.funstar.sk/produkty/xiom/xiom-potah-omega-vii-hyper if people still can't find it in europe.

yogi_bear
01-23-2020, 09:39 PM
Can you compare the speed of Hyper 2.1mm vs other famous rubbers on max thickness?
I haven't had the chance yet to test the same rubber with different thickness, so I have no idea how much the speed changes with decrease in sponge thickness...

more or less in the range of MXP 50 degrees

splasher78
01-24-2020, 12:59 AM
Yogi, would you recommend this as a bh rubber to an intermediate player still developing bh strokes/Bh looping?
Or something else more "tame".
I tried the Xiom Omega 7 Hyper 2.1mm for 2 weeks now and it is a lot more controllable than the max version. The rubber is the spinniest rubber I have tried and even spinnier than Dignics or Tenergy 05 hard. At least the weight went down from 79 grams to 71 grams when the sponge was at 2.1mm I felt my push chops were very spinny and at the same time the grip for the ball was better compared to the max version because the max version was way too fast for me. if a higher level player would play max for Hyper then it is no problem but regular players or even advanced amateur players will certainly like the 2.1mm version of the Hyper.

Marko
01-24-2020, 08:55 AM
Yogi, would you recommend this as a bh rubber to an intermediate player still developing bh strokes/Bh looping?
Or something else more "tame".

Not an expert but yogi said it is for advanced pleyers. I don't think it is for intermediate. I am an intermediate players and I have ordered vega x with 5 ply blade donic burn off-. If you want I can tell you how it plays when I get it.

yogi_bear
01-24-2020, 03:58 PM
Hi Yogi,
T05 Hard 2.1 and Hyper 2.1, which one is heavier? I'm using T05H for 6 months so far and very sastify with it. But my EJ push me so hard to try out Xiom Hyper and Tour :) Luckily, Hyper is available here in Slovakia.

I have note weighed the T05H but think the Hyper has more dense sponge and also feels harder at 55 degrees so I would say the Hyper is heavuer by maybe 2-3 grams at 2.1mm if i am not wrong.

yogi_bear
01-24-2020, 03:59 PM
Yogi, would you recommend this as a bh rubber to an intermediate player still developing bh strokes/Bh looping?
Or something else more "tame".
Intermediate? nope. Maybe Omega 7 Asia or Pro at 1.9mm

Arkady
01-25-2020, 06:15 AM
Review of Vega X

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov8wzdWkSMc

Caxoera
02-01-2020, 01:35 AM
Hyper for sale in Spain: https://vsport-tt.com/pt/borrachas/3653-borracha-xiom-omega-vii-hyper.html

merlin el mago
02-01-2020, 08:44 AM
No available, only waiting list.

Kuba Hajto
02-06-2020, 06:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqlQrLAALBw&feature=push-fr&attr_tag=oum3BFfesJa79KwF%3A6
(not mine video just linking)

langel
02-10-2020, 10:29 AM
Finally it came here at 26.33 Euro

Anyway I'm not going to buy it.

http://tennisdiscount.eu/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5_10&products_id=1247

Kuba Hajto
03-15-2020, 10:51 PM
https://presports.com/pimple-in/2772-xiom-omega-7-hyper-rubber.html
Omega VII hyper 48$, only max unfortunately. Package takes 4 weeks to arrive. Cheap shipping to Europe, I bought some other rubbers from there.

If you look in Indonesia you can get it for 41.5$ there (you have to buy domestically though).

yogi_bear
03-15-2020, 11:29 PM
https://presports.com/pimple-in/2772-xiom-omega-7-hyper-rubber.html
Omega VII hyper 48$, only max unfortunately. Package takes 4 weeks to arrive. Cheap shipping to europe, I bought some rubbers from there.

48usd is cheap. I think they got hold of the max version first. 2.1mm came only after some time.

NextLevel
03-16-2020, 12:52 AM
https://presports.com/pimple-in/2772-xiom-omega-7-hyper-rubber.html
Omega VII hyper 48$, only max unfortunately. Package takes 4 weeks to arrive. Cheap shipping to europe, I bought some rubbers from there.

tt-japan has for $50, I bought in 2.1mm. I wasn't thrilled by the rubber vs T05H.

tt_kidz
03-19-2020, 06:11 AM
Xiom Omega 7 Hyper is an interesting rubber. It does not have a strong catapult feel on soft shots and extremely spinny when contacted correctly.

However, the weight of the rubber and the durability is a concern. Due to the slightly thinner topsheet, the topsheet have signs of giving way and dulling. This is based on an average of 4 hours weekly for about 1 1/2 month of play consistently.

I have to agree with Yogi though, the sponge is still solid and does not have any signs of deform even after moving them between blades. Just the thinner topsheet, it may just have been an unfortunate case for me.

lasta
03-19-2020, 06:28 AM
Xiom Omega 7 Hyper is an interesting rubber. It does not have a strong catapult feel on soft shots and extremely spinny when contacted correctly.

However, the weight of the rubber and the durability is a concern. Due to the slightly thinner topsheet, the topsheet have signs of giving way and dulling. This is based on an average of 4 hours weekly for about 1 1/2 month of play consistently.

I have to agree with Yogi though, the sponge is still solid and does not have any signs of deform even after moving them between blades. Just the thinner topsheet, it may just have been an unfortunate case for me.

24 hours of game time would wear out any rubber. I have never seen any rubber with no signs of wear after half that time.

yogi_bear
03-19-2020, 06:50 AM
Actually for 1.5months the Hyper's durability is very good. I gave mine to a high level player who can erode a T05 in 1.5months.

SwordBreak
03-23-2020, 05:38 AM
hi yogi..thanks to your review of 07h..i bought it at max for my forehand on viscaria..i was able to control it but when using more force,my ball tend to go long on 3rd ball attack,have to close the bat angle more...best rubber i ever played with.

btw just saw on xiom_japan instagram..new rubbers coming out..omega 7 ying china and omega7 guang china..you played with it yet?keep us updated yeah..i fall in love with xiom rubbers now♎

yogi_bear
03-23-2020, 05:50 AM
I was supposed to receive them last week but due to the virus scare all freights are delayed.

Dman
06-26-2020, 02:43 AM
How would this rubber compare to the Tibhar evolution mxp

yogi_bear
06-26-2020, 06:18 AM
Vega X is in the level of MXP's performance.

Kuba Hajto
06-26-2020, 07:08 AM
Vega X is in the level of MXP's performance.

It's less reactive though.

Konrad Bak
06-26-2020, 09:41 AM
Has better grip but less spin and durability is very good.
Mxp is more for professional players because they boost a lot and they dont care about durability
Vega x is lighter

yogi_bear
06-26-2020, 12:32 PM
It's less reactive though.

Yes which is good for control.

Dman
06-28-2020, 06:59 AM
What about the omega

Rinforzando
02-19-2021, 08:22 AM
Is the omega 7 hyper a bouncy rubber ? How is the bounce compared to traditional esn rubber like Rasanter R47 ?

Airoc
02-19-2021, 05:22 PM
Is the omega 7 hyper a bouncy rubber ? How is the bounce compared to traditional esn rubber like Rasanter R47 ?

It´s not. You have to work for every shot, but with great rewards. In direct comparison, R47 is much easier to play and gives much more support on opening shots for example. But the spin of the Hyper is even better.

yogi_bear
02-20-2021, 04:27 AM
I would say the Hyper is really fast but as what Airoc said, grest effort results to grest results or shots.

Arkady
02-26-2021, 10:03 AM
After 4-5 months using Vega X on both sides, I've switched back to Vega Pro.

My overall impression of Vega X:
- Just a slight faster and spinnier than Vega Pro.
- Higher arc
- Significantly more spin sensitive
- Way heavier than Vega Pro (which is strange given that they have the same sponge only different topsheet)
- Wear out faster than Vega Pro
- Not so good for passive and active blocks as Vega Pro.

thomas.pong
02-26-2021, 10:10 AM
After 4-5 months using Vega X on both sides, I've switched back to Vega Pro.My overall impression of Vega X:- Just a slight faster and spinnier than Vega Pro.- Higher arc- Significantly more spin sensitive- Way heavier than Vega Pro (which is strange given that they have the same sponge only different topsheet)- Wear out faster than Vega Pro- Not so good for passive and active blocks as Vega Pro.
Totally agree!

I'll also add that Vega X feels harder than Pro although the sponge hardness is the same, its topsheet's pimple structure must be denser, which would also explain the added weight.

Both good rubbers, but overall I also prefer Pro.

Arkady
02-26-2021, 10:19 AM
Totally agree!

I'll also add that Vega X feels harder than Pro although the sponge hardness is the same, its topsheet's pimple structure must be denser, which would also explain the added weight.

Both good rubbers, but overall I also prefer Pro.

Indeed a more dense pimple structure would explain the added weight.

yogi_bear
02-27-2021, 03:55 AM
The sponge of the Vega X feels more dense.

Arkady
02-27-2021, 05:41 AM
The sponge of the Vega X feels more dense.

According to Xiom's catalogue at least,both VP and VX have a sponge hardness of 47.5o while they differ in the topsheet technology where the VP uses Hyper Elasto technology and VX Elasto Futura, which is actually the technology of Omega VII topsheets

quanghuysk
02-27-2021, 06:29 AM
According to Xiom's catalogue at least,both VP and VX have a sponge hardness of 47.5o while they differ in the topsheet technology where the VP uses Hyper Elasto technology and VX Elasto Futura, which is actually the technology of Omega VII topsheets
Elasto Futura, from the cover of my VII Tour

yogi_bear
02-27-2021, 08:24 PM
According to Xiom's catalogue at least,both VP and VX have a sponge hardness of 47.5o while they differ in the topsheet technology where the VP uses Hyper Elasto technology and VX Elasto Futura, which is actually the technology of Omega VII topsheets
This is comparing to the Vega Pro rubber not the Hyper, if i may add.