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yogi_bear
01-24-2020, 04:52 PM
Weight: 74 grams (uncut weight)
Hardness: Very Hard (54-55 degrees)
Speed: OFF
Spin: Extremely High

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I know that this rubber has been in the market for a few years now but I have never seen any reviews about it. I have tried Xiom Tau I
before but did not like it because the bounce was kinda dead for me and at that time rubbers that are at 54 or 55 degrees. I was not really
convinced at that time the rubber is viable for play. It was very spinny and also has some tack in it but I never paid attention to it. The
Tau I is still available even though the Tau II is already in the market too. It took me quite a while to have the red and black rubbers since this rubber is not readily available outside China. This is only sold in China and you have to order this online in order to obtain this and this is more expensive than the Vega series rubbers.

Out of the box, the rubber is sticky when you remove the plastic cover but the stickiness or tackiness of the rubber surface is less compared to typical Chinese rubbers like Hurricane 3 Neo. If I compare the tackiness of the Tau II to the Vega China, there are times I feel the Vega China is more tacky. The sponge is a black sponge that is dense and almost non-porous if compared to regular Vega or Omega rubbers. The sponge of the Tau II is more or less identical to that of the Vega China or Vega Def rubbers wherein the pores are very minute and cannot be seen unless magnified.

I glued this on to the Xiom Stradivarius with the updated handle and immediately drilled with it. I did not boost it as it seems to have factory
boosting already due to the rubber has little doming out of the box. The Tau II is very bouncy despite being tacky but i would rate it at almost
in the speed of Vega China and slightly slower than the Joola Tango. It is fast for a tacky rubber that even if you boost a Hurricane 3 Neo, the Tau II
still edges the H3 Neo by a slight margin in terms of speed. When you are hitting or driving with it, it has a hard and solid impact. The topsheet is kinda soft but due to the hard sponge, the Tau II has an overall hard feel on all shots.

For looping, I have no complaints about the Tau II. It is very spinny and is as spinny as a Hurricane 3 that is boosted especially on slow and delayed loops. It has a slightly lower arc compared to Vega China. I would rate the arc as somewhat medium to medium-low arc. One thing about the Tau II is that despite being a tacky rubber, it favors ball contact that engages or compresses the sponge more than just brushing it thinly. There were times I hit the net when re-looping blocked topspin balls if I do not hit through the sponge but when I compress the sponge more, you can appreciate the kick and the long medium arc trajectory of the ball.

The Tau II has a lot of gears! If you do drop shots with it, the rubber can feel dead and will produce very short drop shots and at the same time when hitting with it produces good amount of power and spin. It is very spinny to serve and chops good when doing defensive chops away from the table. It is produces hard push chops with minimal arm movement. It is average in terms of smashing as the tackiness can reduce the speed. In terms of blocking, it is very good and not as spin sensitive as the Hurricane 3 or Vega China.

For the drawback, the only thing I can comment against it is that the Tau II easily picks up dust. You have to clean it always because the dust easily sticks to the rubber surface but when playing in a rubberized area, this is no problem. I also see it having finger marks.

yogi_bear
01-24-2020, 10:00 PM
Just a correction, Tau II is still not out in China.

Kuba Hajto
01-24-2020, 10:11 PM
From what I know Xiom stamps the tech used for making topsheet (Elasto Futura, Hyper Elasto etc.) on both the rubber and the packaging. I am no expert but this is first time I see CST, although the graphic resembles Elasto Futura (used on Omega VII). I am just curious wether this detail is important...

yogi_bear
01-25-2020, 05:14 AM
Yes it has Elasto Futura also but I do not concern myself too much on those.

729B2
01-25-2020, 11:53 AM
yogi bear what version of h3 does it compare to?

yogi_bear
01-25-2020, 05:40 PM
More like national orange 40 degrees??

merlin el mago
01-26-2020, 02:13 PM
Where it's available?

yogi_bear
01-26-2020, 06:10 PM
It should be released in China soon.

merlin el mago
01-26-2020, 06:19 PM
Thank you.

Kuba Hajto
03-13-2020, 03:55 PM
Any information about the release?

yogi_bear
03-13-2020, 04:01 PM
I was told this will now be released worldwide tentaively. It should be probably april tpgether with the omega 7 china

Kuba Hajto
03-13-2020, 04:03 PM
I was told this will now be released worldwide tentaively. It should be probably april tpgether with the omega 7 china
How probable is that you make review of the Omega 7 China around that time?

yogi_bear
03-13-2020, 04:39 PM
Well, i will. Be having them ahead before they are released worldwide. I am just waiting for the new version of Hugo Calderano blade and 36.5 to be available so that they can be sent together with the rubbers.

Caxoera
03-14-2020, 05:21 PM
All wood blade?

yogi_bear
03-15-2020, 01:33 AM
Both are alc blades.

Caxoera
03-15-2020, 06:43 PM
Why they don’t release the blade Hugo is using? Andro did this with Gauzy.

yogi_bear
03-15-2020, 11:40 PM
Hugo is still using his old non-Xiom blade.

Caxoera
03-16-2020, 03:26 AM
Yeah, I know. I mean they should release a Xiom version of the blade he uses like Andro did with Gauzy.

yogi_bear
03-16-2020, 03:45 AM
Yeah, I know. I mean they should release a Xiom version of the blade he uses like Andro did with Gauzy.

Xiom does not see it feasible now.

Kuba Hajto
03-16-2020, 08:25 AM
Xiom does not see it feasible now.
Too bad :| I love allwood fast blades and Xiom has very good quality :(

yogi_bear
03-16-2020, 10:23 AM
Xiom already has Offensive S, Zeta Off, Vega blades and Extreme S so i do not think they need to add more.

Kuba Hajto
03-16-2020, 10:46 AM
Xiom already has Offensive S, Zeta Off, Vega blades and Extreme S so i do not think they need to add more.
That's truly commendable that they don't go with Butterfly strategy with rebranding Viscaria as bazilion of other models. I still think that they will make Hugo his own blade. I also think It might be sooner or later. Right now everyone has truckload of time to design something new, fun and good (like the SAL actually) since the current public health situation. Maybe they will make a mass version of SAL in a year or two (current run is marketed as limited run on xiom eu page). This is only speculation though.

Rinforzando
02-19-2021, 08:45 AM
Is the Tau 2 suitable for backhand ?

yogi_bear
02-19-2021, 09:44 AM
Too bad :| I love allwood fast blades and Xiom has very good quality :(
The all wood blades of Xiom like Offensive S and Extreme plus the Solo sre already good for most people. The quality is good too. I am a fan of the Extreme S. Fast blade!

merlin el mago
02-19-2021, 02:05 PM
Do you know when will be available in Europe?

Rinforzando
02-19-2021, 02:14 PM
just buy it at aliexpress. 30€ with free shipping. I don't think it will be available in Europe

yogi_bear
02-20-2021, 04:29 AM
Too bad :| I love allwood fast blades and Xiom has very good quality :(

just buy it at aliexpress. 30€ with free shipping. I don't think it will be available in Europe
Yup better in aliexpress. This was only intended fof China.

virtuososiu
03-02-2021, 12:43 PM
would be nice to see it in other parts of the world, how is durability?

yogi_bear
03-03-2021, 04:21 AM
would be nice to see it in other parts of the world, how is durability?
Durability is better than non-tacky esn rubbers. It does pick up dust easily so you need to clean it often.

merlin el mago
03-03-2021, 01:25 PM
Yogi have the same sponge than Vega China?

yogi_bear
03-03-2021, 08:46 PM
Yogi have the same sponge than Vega China?
They seem to have the same appearance but I need to confirm it first. TAU II has a 55 degree sponge while Vega China has a 54 degree sponge.

Rinforzando
03-03-2021, 09:29 PM
They seem to have the same appearance but I need to confirm it first. TAU II has a 55 degree sponge while Vega China has a 54 degree sponge.
Is it the same sponge than Omega 7 China Guang or O7 Hyper then ?

yogi_bear
03-04-2021, 10:33 AM
The Tau 2 and Vea China have the same sponge but with different hardness. The O7 China also has another sponge unlike vega or tau.

Zeen
03-05-2021, 09:48 AM
Could you also compare those rubbers to vega DEF? I would probably like something with the same sponge but a bit softer and with a tacky topsheet.

yogi_bear
03-05-2021, 08:44 PM
Could you also compare those rubbers to vega DEF? I would probably like something with the same sponge but a bit softer and with a tacky topsheet.
Vega Def is just way slower and suits better for chopping. The Tau 2 has a medium soft topsheet that lets you sink the ball easily.

Zeen
03-06-2021, 04:26 PM
So the Tau has a softer topsheet than vega DEF? Is the grip better? I find the DEF to be quite soft already.
The DEF is not that slow, it's way faster than any hurricane for sure, and comparable to any controlled tensors like fastarc series, but the top gear is faster than any other rubber (it is 60 deg after all).
I also would not say it is useful for chopping, it is too fast for that and only available in max thickness.
Maybe I will try the Tau, or just continue to boost the DEF.

yogi_bear
03-07-2021, 01:04 AM
Is the Tau 2 suitable for backhand ?
Depends on your style but not for me.

yogi_bear
03-07-2021, 01:06 AM
So the Tau has a softer topsheet than vega DEF? Is the grip better? I find the DEF to be quite soft already.
The DEF is not that slow, it's way faster than any hurricane for sure, and comparable to any controlled tensors like fastarc series, but the top gear is faster than any other rubber (it is 60 deg after all).
I also would not say it is useful for chopping, it is too fast for that and only available in max thickness.
Q%
Vega Def has a characteristic that the ball does not bounce that much compared to Tau 2 so I would rate it as slower. Sure it is still bouncer than a non-boosted h3 due to lesser tack but not with Tau 2.

tt_beginner
04-01-2021, 11:40 AM
would be nice to see it in other parts of the world, how is durability?I've been using the Tau 2 for a few months now, playing at least once a week, i think it's more durable than the Vega Japan for me

yogi_bear
04-01-2021, 12:51 PM
I've been using the Tau 2 for a few months now, playing at least once a week, i think it's more durable than the Vega Japan for me
Yes it is as good as a Chinese rubber in terms of durability.

MK73
04-01-2021, 03:56 PM
I glued it one of my blades last week and had a very short opportunity to test it. Feels softer on ball impact than H3, although sponge is harder than 39/40 deg H3s. Top sheet? Great spin, dynamic, yet controlled and good for short play. Seems to be a very promising rubber, but I have to test it more, of course.

tt_beginner
04-01-2021, 04:01 PM
I think you are going to love it

my only cons is that it gets dirty or dusty easily , i have to clean it after a set or two [emoji38]

yogi_bear
04-02-2021, 12:07 AM
I think you are going to love it

my only cons is that it gets dirty or dusty easily , i have to clean it after a set or two [emoji38]
It does pick up a lot of dusts especially the black one. That is why i suggest to people that they need to clean it in between matches

yogi_bear
04-02-2021, 12:08 AM
I glued it one of my blades last week and had a very short opportunity to test it. Feels softer on ball impact than H3, although sponge is harder than 39/40 deg H3s. Top sheet? Great spin, dynamic, yet controlled and good for short play. Seems to be a very promising rubber, but I have to test it more, of course.
It there are no Hurricane 3 in the world, Tau ii will definitely be my permanent fh rubber. It is just so good. If only they release this outside of China.

mocker88
04-20-2021, 07:58 AM
Now I received my reg Xiom TAU II. Well... I instantly got the feeling of H3N, but after playing a while I felt the softness that the H3N doesn't have. As much as I want TAU II to be a better version of H3N, I can't really get that catapult kick that H3N gives. The thing about this rubber, is that it's almost there in the attacking game, and at the same time has this softer feeling that can give you that extra control that H3N misses. I have to play some more with this to get used to it's character. :)

igorponger
04-20-2021, 08:19 AM
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tt_beginner
04-20-2021, 12:22 PM
Now I received my reg Xiom TAU II. Well... I instantly got the feeling of H3N, but after playing a while I felt the softness that the H3N doesn't have. As much as I want TAU II to be a better version of H3N, I can't really get that catapult kick that H3N gives. The thing about this rubber, is that it's almost there in the attacking game, and at the same time has this softer feeling that can give you that extra control that H3N misses. I have to play some more with this to get used to it's character. :)hmm strange, it is the opposite for me, when I bounce the ball on my Tau 2, it is higher than on the H3N

mocker88
04-20-2021, 01:57 PM
hmm strange, it is the opposite for me, when I bounce the ball on my Tau 2, it is higher than on the H3N
Yep. The bounce is higher, but the loop kick is less...

yogi_bear
04-20-2021, 09:43 PM
Yep. The bounce is higher, but the loop kick is less...
Regular H3 has less kick than Tau 2 unless you boost H3. The sponge of Tau 2 has more rebound due to its factory tuning. The softness is because of Tau's topsheet. The sponge is harder since it is about 55 where's when H3 40 degrees for example is around 52 degrees if in the same scale.

Rabab EL Nashar
04-21-2021, 12:59 AM
And as for the potential export&import concerns of CITES endangered wood species that Music&Ping mentioned earlier: I looked up that list, and Wenge is not on the CITES list of protected species, so that wouldnt be an issue even if Der Echte needs to take it out of the country at some point. I won't have to export it anyway since I'm right here in California.

yogi_bear
04-21-2021, 04:27 AM
And as for the potential export&import concerns of CITES endangered wood species that Music&Ping mentioned earlier: I looked up that list, and Wenge is not on the CITES list of protected species, so that wouldnt be an issue even if Der Echte needs to take it out of the country at some point. I won't have to export it anyway since I'm right here in California.
Dude I am seeing you post this on several. Threads!!!

tt_beginner
04-21-2021, 04:45 AM
Regular H3 has less kick than Tau 2 unless you boost H3. The sponge of Tau 2 has more rebound due to its factory tuning. The softness is because of Tau's topsheet. The sponge is harder since it is about 55 where's when H3 40 degrees for example is around 52 degrees if in the same scale. this is what I noticed also, I had the H3N Prov, it had the same tackiness with the Tau 2

haven't tried the normal H3N yet

mocker88
04-21-2021, 08:05 AM
Regular H3 has less kick than Tau 2 unless you boost H3. The sponge of Tau 2 has more rebound due to its factory tuning. The softness is because of Tau's topsheet. The sponge is harder since it is about 55 where's when H3 40 degrees for example is around 52 degrees if in the same scale.
Yep. That makes perfectly sense. I received my Haifu Seamoon Booster a couple of days ago, and have boosted a H3 41deg three times now. Hopefully the dome has come down enough this evening so the rubber is glueable. It's a bit tricky playing when a couple of centimeters around the edges isn't attached to the blade 😁

yogi_bear
04-21-2021, 08:14 AM
Yep. That makes perfectly sense. I received my Haifu Seamoon Booster a couple of days ago, and have boosted a H3 41deg three times now. Hopefully the dome has come down enough this evening so the rubber is glueable. It's a bit tricky playing when a couple of centimeters around the edges isn't attached to the blade 😁
I usually give it a day to rest then place it under a pile of 1 or 2 books for 6 hrs then after gluing i use clicky press to firmly press the glued rubber.

mocker88
04-21-2021, 11:42 AM
I usually give it a day to rest then place it under a pile of 1 or 2 books for 6 hrs then after gluing i use clicky press to firmly press the glued rubber.
Yes I should buy one of those, but for now I found a 5kg piece of a stone bench to keep it down while it attach to the blade. Hope it works :)

IB66
04-21-2021, 07:51 PM
Yep. That makes perfectly sense. I received my Haifu Seamoon Booster a couple of days ago, and have boosted a H3 41deg three times now. Hopefully the dome has come down enough this evening so the rubber is glueable. It's a bit tricky playing when a couple of centimeters around the edges isn't attached to the blade 😁
Hi Which glue do you use?