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JeffM
05-08-2020, 10:59 AM
As corona virus ceased most of the table tennis activities during the past few months, I have had plenty of time to listen and play music.
I thought what might be interesting is to see what musical instruments table tennis players play.

So post what you play, and if you have videos of yourself playing, share with us so we can enjoy it too!

I'll start first, I play the piano and clarinet.
Here's a playlist of my piano recordings.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL761JRJ6YgK1RiZwDtGa9iq6Jzj9AsziG

yogi_bear
05-08-2020, 11:31 AM
Air guitar whoaaaaaaa!!!!

zzzuppp
05-08-2020, 11:52 AM
I'm a pro musician, though I'm almost retired. I have a music degree, I sing professionally, play jazz piano, compose, arrange, teach, make instruments using bamboo, run two choirs and sing in a male quartet. I worked as Musical Director of various (mostly visual) theatre companies in the '80s, when I also used to play soprano saxophone and percussion and any number of ethnic instruments from round the world (now I just make things like that). I've run hundreds of instrument-making workshops, mostly for kids and mostly in the UK but also around the world with WOMAD. I've led a ska/funk band, played piano in many jazz groups, played oboe in classical orchestras, masterminded a huge music festival for kids with learning difficulties. Some people spend their lives mastering one instrument, but for me music is an endless world of possibility and I've never been content to stick with one 'bag' or style and I like to be involved in all aspects of it.
TT is my major hobby but music is my life ;)

Mytoman
05-08-2020, 12:42 PM
Originally percussion, including timpani and melodic .
Nowadays a bit piano, guitar etc, just for fun.

kanewillimson
05-08-2020, 05:49 PM
nice play but you also play guitar

hleett
05-08-2020, 07:26 PM
Have you tried the Chinese erhu or the Japanese shakuhachi?

I'm a pro musician, though I'm almost retired. I have a music degree, I sing professionally, play jazz piano, compose, arrange, teach, make instruments using bamboo, run two choirs and sing in a male quartet. I worked as Musical Director of various (mostly visual) theatre companies in the '80s, when I also used to play soprano saxophone and percussion and any number of ethnic instruments from round the world (now I just make things like that). I've run hundreds of instrument-making workshops, mostly for kids and mostly in the UK but also around the world with WOMAD. I've led a ska/funk band, played piano in many jazz groups, played oboe in classical orchestras, masterminded a huge music festival for kids with learning difficulties. Some people spend their lives mastering one instrument, but for me music is an endless world of possibility and I've never been content to stick with one 'bag' or style and I like to be involved in all aspects of it.
TT is my major hobby but music is my life ;)

zzzuppp
05-08-2020, 08:52 PM
Have you tried the Chinese erhu or the Japanese shakuhachi?

Since I make instruments out of bamboo, I'm planning to make a shakuhachi when I'm old and wise enough.;)
Trouble is, living in England, it's hard/impossible to get the right kind of rootstock bamboo.
I don't play string instruments, so never tried an erhu. Played a few Chinese and Japanese reed instruments - hichiriki, sho etc.

JeffM
05-09-2020, 01:45 PM
I'm a pro musician, though I'm almost retired. I have a music degree, I sing professionally, play jazz piano, compose, arrange, teach, make instruments using bamboo, run two choirs and sing in a male quartet. I worked as Musical Director of various (mostly visual) theatre companies in the '80s, when I also used to play soprano saxophone and percussion and any number of ethnic instruments from round the world (now I just make things like that). I've run hundreds of instrument-making workshops, mostly for kids and mostly in the UK but also around the world with WOMAD. I've led a ska/funk band, played piano in many jazz groups, played oboe in classical orchestras, masterminded a huge music festival for kids with learning difficulties. Some people spend their lives mastering one instrument, but for me music is an endless world of possibility and I've never been content to stick with one 'bag' or style and I like to be involved in all aspects of it.
TT is my major hobby but music is my life ;)
That's amazing! Which one is your favourite instrument? Which instrument are you most fluent with?

zzzuppp
05-09-2020, 02:00 PM
Thanks, Jeff! In answer to your question: Definitely piano these days, though my income is largely based around singing and running choirs. I'm a jazz pianist- I can play classically too and was trained that way, but I'd far rather have the spontaneity and improvisation of jazz. Trouble is, jazz piano isn't 'a career option', as they say - and far too often you end up doing gigs where people think you're just the background and don't listen.

JeffM
05-09-2020, 02:02 PM
Thanks, Jeff! In answer to your question: Definitely piano these days, though my income is largely based around singing and running choirs. I'm a jazz pianist- I can play classically too and was trained that way, but I'd far rather have the spontaneity and improvisation of jazz. Trouble is, jazz piano isn't 'a career option', as they say - and far too often you end up doing gigs where people think you're just the background and don't listen.
Nice, Jazz. Do you play the La La Land? haha

Do you have any recordings of your playing?

ajtatosmano2
05-10-2020, 06:43 PM
Practiced classical piano when I was younger, my level was around Grade 5, when I left it for school. Nowadays I play an old synthetizer and watch TwoSet videos. I made multiple attempts to practice regularly again, but university and a returning inflammation in my left wrist didn't let me. I restarted with a too harsch practice routine and it wasn't the best idea on a pianino with very heavy keys. However I still plan to restart in the summer, when I have time (just avoiding the long scales and arpeggio practice).

tropical
05-10-2020, 07:57 PM
Ive been playing classical guitar for many years. Now I play a bit less due to age and arthritis.

trumpet_guy
05-10-2020, 11:04 PM
I have played the trumpet for about 40 years. It’s still fun. https://youtu.be/CbJf8Vc2Eow

Baal
05-10-2020, 11:29 PM
I play jazz piano and played in clubs a bit in the late 1970s and early 1980s when I was in the university (it didn't help my grades because I preferred hanging out to studying!!l). These days I would not dare play in public. My chops have declined so much it would be embarrassing (and they weren't that great to begin with, but I was good at finding cool voicings and reharmonizing tunes and such). My biggest hero was Bill Evans. Always wanted to get more of that in my playing. These days I will sit down and play for myself a few times a week, but I never actually practice. Once in a while I will learn a new tune, but mostly I just play and see what comes out. Once in awhile I even like the result.

The_TT_Bat_Guy
05-11-2020, 12:06 AM
Apart from my day job, I sang part-time with a professional modern acapella group, did a few public shows and many private ones for companies. Was also the vocal percussionist/beatboxer of the group. Miss performing sometimes.

JeffM
05-11-2020, 02:24 AM
I have played the trumpet for about 40 years. It’s still fun. https://youtu.be/CbJf8Vc2Eow

Sounds very nice! Thanks for sharing!

trumpet_guy
05-11-2020, 02:57 AM
Your piano playing is excellent Jeff. Haven’t heard your clarinet yet, but expect great sounds there too.

yoass
05-11-2020, 08:43 AM
I'm in awe. I dabble at the piano and have played some (acoustic, classical) guitar, but as far as regrets go — not developing musical ability up to the point of (say) fluidly playing Débussy, Ravel, Chopin, Rachmaninov, Liszt is a formidable one.

Kaizoku
05-11-2020, 08:30 PM
Piano at roughly intermediate level with probably a handful of bad positioned finger habits.
Self-taught, no lessons nor note reading. Synthesia style.
The most advanced (not advanced) piece I can play is probably this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wny1ojJli8k as the first piece I decided to learn (probably not the smartest beginners choice xD), the 2:12-> part took me a long while to get down. Now I've learned several more but mostly at the same level or easier.

I've also tried blues, but I can't get it down since my left-hand refuses Independence (for now) :| (while ballade styled bass notes comes as easy top spins) with my unstable elbow problems the last few year I've not been hardcore practicing either. (as it makes it worse :(

Oh and I can play up to (difficulty level) F and Bm chords on guitar lol. just various strumming patterns. I keep my "finger play" to the piano. As that's my ears preference.

JeffM
05-12-2020, 07:56 AM
Piano at roughly intermediate level with probably a handful of bad positioned finger habits.
Self-taught, no lessons nor note reading. Synthesia style.
The most advanced (not advanced) piece I can play is probably this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wny1ojJli8k as the first piece I decided to learn (probably not the smartest beginners choice xD), the 2:12-> part took me a long while to get down. Now I've learned several more but mostly at the same level or easier.

I've also tried blues, but I can't get it down since my left-hand refuses Independence (for now) :| (while ballade styled bass notes comes as easy top spins) with my unstable elbow problems the last few year I've not been hardcore practicing either. (as it makes it worse :(

Oh and I can play up to (difficulty level) F and Bm chords on guitar lol. just various strumming patterns. I keep my "finger play" to the piano. As that's my ears preference.

Wow that's amazing, especially as you didn't have any lessons! :D
Is that your playing in the video? Sounds very nice and soothing.

Joo Se Kev
05-12-2020, 10:36 AM
I play piano and a little guitar, but not as much in recent years. Wish I had more time to play!

tropical
05-12-2020, 04:40 PM
Piano at roughly intermediate level with probably a handful of bad positioned finger habits.
Self-taught, no lessons nor note reading. Synthesia style.
The most advanced (not advanced) piece I can play is probably this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wny1ojJli8k as the first piece I decided to learn (probably not the smartest beginners choice xD), the 2:12-> part took me a long while to get down. Now I've learned several more but mostly at the same level or easier.

I've also tried blues, but I can't get it down since my left-hand refuses Independence (for now) :| (while ballade styled bass notes comes as easy top spins) with my unstable elbow problems the last few year I've not been hardcore practicing either. (as it makes it worse :(

Oh and I can play up to (difficulty level) F and Bm chords on guitar lol. just various strumming patterns. I keep my "finger play" to the piano. As that's my ears preference.


Are you Ryan Jones who played this piano piece with >10 millions viewers?

vik2000
05-12-2020, 06:52 PM
Violinist here. Played from 4-17ish. Stopped after highschool.

Kolev
05-13-2020, 01:38 AM
My life is music, my profession is music, my hobby is music and here is my CV.
I began at age of 7 and my education passed through 5 years specialized classical music lyceum and a then another 4 in the conservatory of Sofia. Main instruments piano, keyboards and accordion. In the 80s was lucky to be the keyboard player of a very famous rock band in my county-Bulgaria. In mid 90s came to Brussels as a piano-bar act and during the last 21 years did endless amount of gigs. I have a small professiona studiol where I practice, arrange and master a lot and record from time to time Many ppl would say that I am good rock guitarist as well. I like many different genres of music and can easily play quite a few styles without being specialized in anything in particular. The last few years I am very busy with private piano and guitar courses.
"Music is my first love and it will be the last”

yoass
05-13-2020, 10:44 AM
Wow that's amazing, especially as you didn't have any lessons! :D
Is that your playing in the video? Sounds very nice and soothing.

Seconded! A very lyrical interpretation. And, at least from my level, I think positioning and position changes are done quite well, certainly so given that it's self-taught.

It's also a beautiful piece, a high aim for a first piece. Kaizoku, you brightened up my day.

kanewillimson
05-19-2020, 09:26 AM
yes i play piano

Kaizoku
05-21-2020, 12:18 AM
Are you Ryan Jones who played this piano piece with >10 millions viewers?


Ahahaha, no.
I can't play it that well either. I have a video somewhere. Maybe I'll post later xp

JeffM
05-29-2020, 03:14 AM
My newest recording :cool:


https://youtu.be/_ERcrxU8zio

Plom
05-31-2020, 10:48 AM
Is there a correlation between people being good at sports like table tennis where hand eye coordination is important and playing musical instruments like the piano? Interesting

joseandres123
08-08-2020, 09:14 PM
I really like the guitar instrument, it is one of my favorite instruments in this world, I know many songs to sing

SilentWords
10-17-2020, 06:48 AM
i own a ukulele for like 3 years now but never really invested myself into mastering it. I can play some basic melodies but nothing more than this

JeffM
10-22-2020, 03:09 PM
Recently, I decided to write music. I like electro music, so I thought why not to try do something by myself. So, now, I'm trying to become a master in this field. Maybe a bit later I will show you my results.

That is quite impressive. Can't wait to see your music!

JeffM
11-03-2020, 10:14 AM
Piano at roughly intermediate level with probably a handful of bad positioned finger habits.
Self-taught, no lessons nor note reading. Synthesia style.
The most advanced (not advanced) piece I can play is probably this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wny1ojJli8k as the first piece I decided to learn (probably not the smartest beginners choice xD), the 2:12-> part took me a long while to get down. Now I've learned several more but mostly at the same level or easier.

I've also tried blues, but I can't get it down since my left-hand refuses Independence (for now) :| (while ballade styled bass notes comes as easy top spins) with my unstable elbow problems the last few year I've not been hardcore practicing either. (as it makes it worse :(

Oh and I can play up to (difficulty level) F and Bm chords on guitar lol. just various strumming patterns. I keep my "finger play" to the piano. As that's my ears preference.

Hey Kaizoku,

Here is my attempt to play Canon :D

https://youtu.be/ZkzG1Fre0c0

abroadstudies
11-10-2020, 11:49 AM
Hello guys, new here from India. This is my first visit to this forum and glad to have joined this community. Yes, I like music and I am passionate about music. Music is a feeling that come from inside and relief. I like to play guitar and piano. Looking forward to this group and thanks for sharing this with us.

brokenball
11-11-2020, 03:36 AM
I bought a yamaha PSS-A50 for my camper. It had to be small and low power and have a midi port. I don't play keyboard yet but I will have time after I am retired. There was a picture of the PSS-A50 above.
I have also dug out my old cherry red 1966 Gibson ES 330 TDC. I bought it with money I earned from mowing lawns. A new ES 330 TDC cost about $2400 now. I need to learn again. Much I still remember but it is difficult to play clean. My fingers seem fatter now or the strings are closer together. The strings also hurt my fingers because I don't have any callouses.

When I was 13 I broke my wrist playing football in the street. I had to stop taking guitar lessons. I couldn't even go out for football because I had a cast on my wrist. I couldn't play the guitar because the cast would scratch my guitar and I could barely hold a pick. However, this is when I learned to play TT. I learned to play left handed because I broke my right wrist. During the time I had my cast on my guitar teacher died. When my cast came off I played high school football. Never really played the guitar after that but I did play TT through my sophomore year in college then school and life got in the way of everything. Couldn't play TT or the guitar. Now skip forward about 45 years.

souza13alex
11-11-2020, 06:14 AM
My newest recording :cool:


https://youtu.be/_ERcrxU8zio
Well done, you did it very well, this is one of my favorite compositions. Thank you!

JeffM
11-11-2020, 03:14 PM
Hello guys, new here from India. This is my first visit to this forum and glad to have joined this community. Yes, I like music and I am passionate about music. Music is a feeling that come from inside and relief. I like to play guitar and piano. Looking forward to this group and thanks for sharing this with us.

Welcome to this forum! Look forward to seeing videos of your music! :D


I bought a yamaha PSS-A50 for my camper. It had to be small and low power and have a midi port. I don't play keyboard yet but I will have time after I am retired. There was a picture of the PSS-A50 above.
I have also dug out my old cherry red 1966 Gibson ES 330 TDC. I bought it with money I earned from mowing lawns. A new ES 330 TDC cost about $2400 now. I need to learn again. Much I still remember but it is difficult to play clean. My fingers seem fatter now or the strings are closer together. The strings also hurt my fingers because I don't have any callouses.

When I was 13 I broke my wrist playing football in the street. I had to stop taking guitar lessons. I couldn't even go out for football because I had a cast on my wrist. I couldn't play the guitar because the cast would scratch my guitar and I could barely hold a pick. However, this is when I learned to play TT. I learned to play left handed because I broke my right wrist. During the time I had my cast on my guitar teacher died. When my cast came off I played high school football. Never really played the guitar after that but I did play TT through my sophomore year in college then school and life got in the way of everything. Couldn't play TT or the guitar. Now skip forward about 45 years.

Thanks for sharing your story regarding TT and music! You must have so much memories coming back to you as you play the Gibson again!


Well done, you did it very well, this is one of my favorite compositions. Thank you!

Thank you for your compliment! I will continue to play more pieces and record them.

Music&Ping
01-01-2021, 10:51 AM
Hey jazz bassist here ! no music degree mostly self taught since more than 30 years, been growing in music-centric family with all kinds of instruments so I can't even remember what I've used first to express myself hahaha, all I can say is I was very young. And all I can say is the first thing I was singing was jazz walking bass lines ! so naturally with bass I started with the blues, then as I got a solid sense of rhythm all the african-american culture came down on me: soul, funk, Motown, fusion, latin jazz, afro-cuban, etc. I've been playing in various jazz bands, professionally or not, and I'm also teaching electric bass guitar at all levels.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUc2w260Xuo" target="_blank">
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUc2w260Xuo

Cardiofitping
01-01-2021, 03:57 PM
hi, i play piano also
really great

StanHansen
01-07-2021, 07:10 AM
I play on flute..It's such a wonderful thing tbh

EyyT
01-08-2021, 02:23 PM
I play nittaku acoustic

I play acoustic guitar and trying to learn melodica

futureman39
01-08-2021, 10:30 PM
I just finished AMEB grade 8 piano last year and I'm now learning and playing the organ for my church.

JeffM
01-09-2021, 03:08 AM
This is great to see so many tt players who are also musicians! :D

Here is my latest video

https://youtu.be/Mvw5I-jaGV8

vipt2000
01-09-2021, 05:21 AM
I play the air ukulele. It's like air guitar, but with less movement.

In all seriousness, I also play piano, here is a video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYCYvlxAOLI

Music&Ping
01-09-2021, 01:20 PM
I just finished AMEB grade 8 piano last year and I'm now learning and playing the organ for my church.
When I see someone's whose name's "Futureman" I'm always...
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Music&Ping
01-09-2021, 01:28 PM
I play the air ukulele. It's like air guitar, but with less movement.

In all seriousness, I also play piano, here is a video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYCYvlxAOLI


Maaan !what you do here with a stylophone is excellent !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-Hnd_U_TUs

Not a fan of the kind of music played here but you're definitely good at it ! I've tried once, it's just ridiculous how it can be difficult, I also play a little bit of piano but more for the harmony concepts I explain to my bass students, and for composing/arranging jazz.

futureman39
01-10-2021, 08:40 AM
Hahaha. I didn't even know this guy when I chose my username; what a coincidence! :)

vipt2000
01-10-2021, 10:09 AM
Maaan !what you do here with a stylophone is excellent !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-Hnd_U_TUs

Not a fan of the kind of music played here but you're definitely good at it ! I've tried once, it's just ridiculous how it can be difficult, I also play a little bit of piano but more for the harmony concepts I explain to my bass students, and for composing/arranging jazz.

Thanks man, knowing how to play piano helps a bit with getting used to the stylophone. I have only touched it a few times, I think the trick is to pick the right song that sounds good with the stylophone, because there is a limitation on how fast you can tap a stylus without losing sound, and then, slur your way to victory.

junnco
04-13-2021, 07:02 AM
My favorite is Launchpad, I often use it to create or cover short tempo music with electronic background music. real products can not help but hear

Music&Ping
04-13-2021, 12:57 PM
Welcome here partner !

https://www.youtube.com/embed/bFFVYbs0_Yc?autohide=1&controls=1&showinfo=0

naboodjnhv
04-14-2021, 09:28 AM
I'm a piano player too and I really enjoy playing piano. it makes me feel good. when I'm in a bad mood, the only thing that can help me is playing piano.

naboodjnhv
04-14-2021, 09:58 AM
I'm a piano player too and I really enjoy playing piano. it makes me feel good. when I'm in a bad mood, the only thing that can help me is playing piano.

Ray
04-15-2021, 07:12 PM
When I see someone's whose name's "Futureman" I'm always...
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Wow, that's Fodera YY! 🎸 I wanted to be a bass guitar player when I was a kid.

Music&Ping
04-16-2021, 01:48 PM
Hey Ray it's still ok to learn to play ANY musical instrument at ANY age, I've been teaching a 62 years old dude who became pretty good after 2 years at playing some old Motown/Stax/R&B tunes. Bass is quite easy at the very beginning if you want to play pop/rock stuff, when I started as a teenager I enetered a band 1 month later, and then put together my own one 1 year later playing some NOLA jazz funk R&B covers a la Dr John, Harry Connick Jr, The Meters and so on 30 years ago ;-)

If you are more into classical, prog, djent, metal, jazz stuff, it requires a bit of work though, but it's like any other instrument when it comes to play more advanced musical languages right ?

Plus It seems you're from central Europe, so I guess you have pretty strong rhythm foundations, balkan folk music traditions there can be really tricky with those asymetric rhythm signature patterns. I've been jamming with some awesome bulgarian, romanian or serbian musicians while being involved in a world folk dance and music festival in my hometown, man... that's mind blowing how they feel the rhythm !

JeffM
04-26-2021, 01:09 AM
I recently bought proper microphones and a digital interface to transfer the signal to my computer.
Here is my newest video recorded with the equipment.
See if you guys can hear a difference in the sound quality!

https://youtu.be/T6vvkxCGfLM

If you guys want to know the meaning behind the song, check out the description on the video itself!

Music&Ping
04-26-2021, 06:57 AM
Rode mikes, what else... ! the best quality/price ratio out there, and indeed it sounds really nice, maybe a bit larger stereo image would have given more "power" to your mix, the sound recording is excellent, mics placement ok then, I know upright pianos always sound a bit "tiny", that's why a lil' extra bounce with compression and larger pan is never wrong ;-)

Kolev
04-26-2021, 08:16 AM
Nice . I like the mellow character of your recording. Adding some pan or a stereo imaging plug-in would definitely improve the sense of dimension.

FrenchTT
04-26-2021, 09:31 AM
Hi, I play cello! I began when I was seven! ;))

JeffM
04-26-2021, 10:38 AM
Rode mikes, what else... ! the best quality/price ratio out there, and indeed it sounds really nice, maybe a bit larger stereo image would have given more "power" to your mix, the sound recording is excellent, mics placement ok then, I know upright pianos always sound a bit "tiny", that's why a lil' extra bounce with compression and larger pan is never wrong ;-)


Nice . I like the mellow character of your recording. Adding some pan or a stereo imaging plug-in would definitely improve the sense of dimension.
Thanks for the feedback Music&Ping and Kolev!
I am actually quite new to recording with mics and digital interfaces.
I have already set the panning to the extreme left and right in Ableton Lite.
What else can I experiment with to improv the sense of dimension?
For mic placement, I did the 3:1 rule, so the mics are about 29cm above the hammers while the mics are about 87cm apart.
I don't know about the pluggins. I think focusrite comes with red plug-in suite and plug in collective. Do they modify the recording as it is being recorded or only after the recording is done in DAW?
Thanks!

Kolev
04-27-2021, 12:49 AM
Hi Jeff. The world of DAW is real fun, especially when you play instruments, have music knowledge and most of all have ideas. It is a whole universe of possibilities.
You did an excellent job with the mic placement although nothing can stop you to do some experiments and place the mics at different positions to see the results. I haven't recorded an upright, but two times was asked to record a grand (for demo) . Both grands , rooms and even the mics were quite different so we could not apply exactly the same standerd rules for both demos.
Plug-ins are used after the recording during the mixing , so you can always keep your original recording "intact", but probably you already know that.
Try to record both mics not just as a pair(stereo) but as 2x-mono and after that you can really play with the pan. When we play piano and especially grand we clearly hear the high notes(keys) coming from our right and the lows from the left. By adjusting the pan we recreate this perception.
But of course nothing has to be overdone and extreme. Trust your ears.
If you like you may add a bit of reverb and a bit of EQ .....and again TRY NOT to overdo and never use extreme settings.Using compression on a piano is not a good idea unless you are looking for some special result....
WIth two words -Neverending story.

JeffM
04-27-2021, 10:03 AM
Hi Jeff. The world of DAW is real fun, especially when you play instruments, have music knowledge and most of all have ideas. It is a whole universe of possibilities.
You did an excellent job with the mic placement although nothing can stop you to do some experiments and place the mics at different positions to see the results. I haven't recorded an upright, but two times was asked to record a grand (for demo) . Both grands , rooms and even the mics were quite different so we could not apply exactly the same standerd rules for both demos.
Plug-ins are used after the recording during the mixing , so you can always keep your original recording "intact", but probably you already know that.
Try to record both mics not just as a pair(stereo) but as 2x-mono and after that you can really play with the pan. When we play piano and especially grand we clearly hear the high notes(keys) coming from our right and the lows from the left. By adjusting the pan we recreate this perception.
But of course nothing has to be overdone and extreme. Trust your ears.
If you like you may add a bit of reverb and a bit of EQ .....and again TRY NOT to overdo and never use extreme settings.Using compression on a piano is not a good idea unless you are looking for some special result....
WIth two words -Neverending story.
Thanks for this Kolev! This is so informative!
I will try to record next time with 2 mics set as mono on Ableton.
After that, how do I set the panning of the audio to create the sense of stereo?

You are right, there are so many possibilities!

Music&Ping
04-27-2021, 11:11 AM
Using 2 mics as mono is a no-no for an upright, don't do that: you'll have to deal with phase issues, with gain and volume issues, if you're not familiar with mixing techniques, make it simple. Using mics as mono is right for a grand, as you have to pick up different registers

Because... an upright is not strung like a grand: the low and treble strings registers are crossed, means the low register starts up high on the left and falls down on the bottom right of the soundboard. You can try the french ORTF micing technique as a stereo pair still, scoop the 200-500 Hz range, and add some gentle compression to get better sustain: on the Red 3 compressor panel, set a slow attack, slow release, low ratio, threshold at noon, input depending on the microphones' gain.
https://blog.zzounds.com/2019/04/10/recording-an-old-upright-piano/

JeffM
04-27-2021, 03:20 PM
Using 2 mics as mono is a no-no for an upright, don't do that: you'll have to deal with phase issues, with gain and volume issues, if you're not familiar with mixing techniques, make it simple. Using mics as mono is right for a grand, as you have to pick up different registers

Because... an upright is not strung like a grand: the low and treble strings registers are crossed, means the low register starts up high on the left and falls down on the bottom right of the soundboard. You can try the french ORTF micing technique as a stereo pair still, scoop the 200-500 Hz range, and add some gentle compression to get better sustain: on the Red 3 compressor panel, set a slow attack, slow release, low ratio, threshold at noon, input depending on the microphones' gain.
https://blog.zzounds.com/2019/04/10/recording-an-old-upright-piano/
Thanks Music&Ping, hmm some different info from Kolev.

I will consider the ORTF technique. Is it meant for up close to the strings like what I did with my video or further away?
That link you posted contains very useful info! They use a third mic as a ribbon mic, which I don't have that currently.
The plugins are quite technical, I will see if I can experiment with them when I have some time!

Kolev
04-27-2021, 11:29 PM
The plug-ins indeed can be very technical, but even the simple plug-in can easily overdo the sound.
The best would be to invest some time in mic placement and do a "perfect" capture of your performance. Change the position of mics, try the french Ortif, try mono and don't be afraid of phase problems and always look for the same distance of the mics from the source and watch your input levels and first of all trust your years and taste
Some people need compression to equalize their dynamics or add sustain, but surely this is not your case. EQ certainly may help and in youtube you may find all the answers if you have a specific question. It pays back to find out more about mastering acoustic piano recordings.
We may be able to help you too

Music&Ping
04-27-2021, 11:36 PM
I'll show a pic of your Red plugin compressor:
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/server/php/files/38/485/21/04/27/focusrite_compressor_3.jpg
Input: it depends on your microphone gain/characteristics, placement too of course.
Ratio: low ratio means more in the 1.5:1 to 3.5:1 side
Threshold: at noon
Attack: Slow side, something like 3 o'clock
Release: slow side too, it's in milliseconds so better go the same side as the attack parameter. Auto Release is sometimes too much fast and modern, don't push that button IMHO

Make Up Gain: 0 basically, as you're not applying heavy compression with heavy gain reduction, you don't have to get back some gain.
Dry/Wet: is the amount of compression effect you'll apply to your mix Dry is 0= No effect, Wet is 100= Max effect

The Inupt/Output will show you the level you get when your input setting meets the threshold level (Input side) and the level you get AFTER compression (Output side, obviously)
https://flypaper.soundfly.com/produce/how-to-choose-compressor-settings/
More info here for ORTF technique https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORTF_stereo_technique

Music&Ping
04-27-2021, 11:48 PM
The plug-ins indeed can be very technical, but even the simple plug-in can easily overdo the sound.
The best would be to invest some time in mic placement and do a "perfect" capture of your performance. Change the position of mics, try the french Ortif, try mono and don't be afraid of phase problems and always look for the same distance of the mics from the source and watch your input levels and first of all trust your years and taste
Some people need compression to equalize their dynamics or add sustain, but surely this is not your case. EQ certainly may help and in youtube you may find all the answers if you have a specific question. It pays back to find out more about mastering acoustic piano recordings.
We may be able to help you too

No really, don't use mono setting:
- you'll have to deal with separate gain and volume control
- you'll have to deal with separate EQ control
- you'll have to deal with phase, and it's a nightmare, it can destroy a mix

Make it simple, pro sound techs used to make it simple in the 60's, they still do nowadays: the jazz bebop era was recorded sometimes with ONLY 1 ! microphone, it's exactly the same as using a stereo pair, it's just that the final image is wider than with a single microphone.

Kolev
04-28-2021, 09:14 AM
Correct me if I am wrong , but two mics mono or stereo recording different sources e.g. left and right part of a piano will most likely be out of phase.
You can't give blind suggestions for a compression or EQ without listening to the material.
Last but not least , the typical example of over use of compression is your own record with the mercilessly squashed piano and pumping bass. Really nice piece of music though 🙂

Kolev
04-28-2021, 09:32 AM
@JeffM

Jeff, your recording and set-up are already quite good and please don't jump into a conclusion that someone here doesn't like your result. BTW I have listen to recording just with headphones. Not on my monitors yet