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CroneOne
12-01-2020, 10:20 PM
Hello

I am looking for some advice/resources on the chiquita technique and ball timing/contact on different spin serve receives.
I had a look at this video. The ball feeder feeds light backspin.


https://youtu.be/_Blilw4EfsI

The guy doing the flicks makes a point of waiting until the ball is at the top of the bounce or a little bit past.
I've tried this, it works.

How about side/topspin and no spin? Different contact timing?

I've found a lot of videos about chiquita body technique but not much on dealing with different spins.

Cheers

Metaxa
12-02-2020, 08:39 PM
Strange exercise to learn banana flick. In 95% of the cases, the flick happens above the table and not behind the table.


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EyyT
12-02-2020, 08:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl5nUqoiGqU

Chinese video

EyyT
12-02-2020, 08:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzi0DXDHRHU

Dan video about backhand flick
You should watch some FZD and lin yun ju(have no idea how to write his name) matches

CroneOne
12-03-2020, 03:24 AM
Yes LYJ has crazy flick ability. It seems like he can flick through any type of spin.

Lula
12-03-2020, 07:32 AM
Feel like players Do the flick two ways in my opinion, over the ball or on the side. With closed angle going over the ball, need to be able to accelerate well at the highest point and the ball will be fast. Or going on the side of the ball, often at a lower point than the highest I think and the ball will be a bit slower but more nasty with side spin.

Think it is more common with the first nowadays maybe because easier with thre plastic ball since less spin. The left handed young Taiwanese do the first one more and ma Lin went on the side a bit. But probably people do a mix of these and there are not so many correct ways to do it. If it works it works.

Takkyu_wa_inochi
12-03-2020, 07:58 AM
if you are right handed, against a right handed opponent, the chiquita is easier to execute against a serve in the middle and easier if the spin is same as pendulum serve. Against YG or BH serve its more difficult to execute and maybe better to try another receive.

yogi_bear
12-03-2020, 08:08 AM
For sidespin, contact the top part of the ball.

Takkyu_wa_inochi
12-03-2020, 08:14 AM
important thing is to have the right shoulder up, go quickly near the ball (adjust footwork and upper body) and swing forward, not just with the wrist (ie the elbow should go forward, not be fixed)

if you swing forward rather than up, its more difficult against heavy backspin balls, but against other spins, you'll get a higher quality shot and can even put BACKSPIN on that chiquita, if you contact the ball slightly on the side and under its equator.

if you can do the YG serve, the motion is quite similar to the YG motion except you contact the ball with the BH side of the racket instead of FH side.