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LilMunchkin
12-13-2020, 09:27 AM
How would it play?

EyyT
12-13-2020, 10:36 AM
Just watch any chinese player as their setup is pretty much it

LilMunchkin
12-13-2020, 10:54 AM
Just watch any chinese player as their setup is pretty much it

really?? I thought they use alc?

UpSideDownCarl
12-13-2020, 05:01 PM
really?? I thought they use alc?

The combination would not be the actual issue. The issue would be: Why would you want a SZLC blade? Save your money get an all wood blade or an ALC blade.

Kuba Hajto
12-13-2020, 05:11 PM
The combination would not be the actual issue. The issue would be: Why would you want a SZLC blade? Save your money get an all wood blade or an ALC blade.

He already has great composite blade. Although Donic OTC does not state that it has arylate carbon, it does play similarily ish to other well known koto-composite-ayous-kiri blade.

LilMunchkin
12-13-2020, 10:59 PM
The combination would not be the actual issue. The issue would be: Why would you want a SZLC blade? Save your money get an all wood blade or an ALC blade.
If I was not so lucky, I would have done ALC, but someone gave me a legit zjk szlc.. so Im just curious how it would work out

LilMunchkin
12-13-2020, 11:01 PM
but my current setup right now is an offenisve classic with h3 bs provincial 40 and mark v. Im not really gonna go for it, but just curious

LilMunchkin
12-13-2020, 11:03 PM
He already has great composite blade. Although Donic OTC does not state that it has arylate carbon, it does play similarily ish to other well known koto-composite-ayous-kiri blade.

well, this is true.

Kuba Hajto
12-13-2020, 11:39 PM
If you have a 'legit zik szlc' and prov bs h3 then why not go for it? All you are risking at that point is the glue, isn't it? It will answer your question better than any post here would
. First hand experience can not be replaced by asking questions online..

LilMunchkin
12-13-2020, 11:40 PM
If you have a 'legit zik szlc' and prov bs h3 then why not go for it? All you are risking at that point is the glue, isn't it? It will answer your question better than any post here would
. First hand experience can not be replaced by asking questions online..

oh ok... thanks man!!

sampletext
12-14-2020, 01:21 AM
Personally I haven't played with it, but I have seen many Chinese players with that set up, so I'd assume they works well together.

LilMunchkin
12-14-2020, 03:50 AM
Thanks everyone!! :) so as a setup would this be great?:

BLADE: ZJK super zlc fl
FH: DHS H3 provincial 41 blue sponge 2.15 neo black
BH: DONIC Baracuda 2.0mm red

EyyT
12-14-2020, 12:07 PM
just use the h3neo if you can boost constantly

Zeen
12-15-2020, 02:35 AM
Thanks everyone!! :) so as a setup would this be great?:

BLADE: ZJK super zlc fl
FH: DHS H3 provincial 41 blue sponge 2.15 neo black
BH: DONIC Baracuda 2.0mm red

I have played with the blade and nittaku h3 turbo orange.
You need a really high level and great technique as well as physical fitness to get any speed with that. Plays really dead. Was much better and overall okay with 09c though.

LilMunchkin
12-15-2020, 02:40 AM
I have played with the blade and nittaku h3 turbo orange.
You need a really high level and great technique as well as physical fitness to get any speed with that. Plays really dead. Was much better and overall okay with 09c though.


Yeah. H3 is really demanding. It has been my setup with a 5 ply offensive classic for the last 3 months, and I must say i like it

SFF_lib
12-15-2020, 08:50 AM
Thanks everyone!! :) so as a setup would this be great?:

BLADE: ZJK super zlc fl
FH: DHS H3 provincial 41 blue sponge 2.15 neo black
BH: DONIC Baracuda 2.0mm red

41degree bs!! Your fh recovery must be fast and stroke be precise and powerful. Otherwise you will find 41degree slower than 40degree. The higher the degree, the more force is required to break in.

Zeen
12-15-2020, 07:39 PM
Yeah. H3 is really demanding. It has been my setup with a 5 ply offensive classic for the last 3 months, and I must say i like it

Okay, but keep in mind that ZJSZLC is the H3 of blades. It's extremely linear, competely non bouncy. So it doubles the deadness of H3. Can't recommend that unless you boost heavily.

That being said, if I was a much better player I would play it. And I'm a solid intermediate player with good technique.

UpSideDownCarl
12-15-2020, 10:53 PM
Okay, but keep in mind that ZJSZLC is the H3 of blades. It's extremely linear, competely non bouncy. So it doubles the deadness of H3. Can't recommend that unless you boost heavily.

That being said, if I was a much better player I would play it. And I'm a solid intermediate player with good technique.

Interestingly, one of the best players I know, who, at the time was one of the top players in the US, tried a ZJK SZLC and said it was non-linear and just not a good blade. He used a TB ALC. I think, part of the issue for him was, he spent a lot of time playing at many depths and liked to play from fairly far back frequently. And that blade does not play in a stable manner from far away because of the extra Zylon in the weave.

So.......take it how you want. But I did not love the blade when I tried it either. I prefer the ALC and regular ZLC but would never want to use the ZLC because, I like the ALC (or the Viscaria) much better.

Zeen
12-15-2020, 11:41 PM
Interestingly, one of the best players I know, who, at the time was one of the top players in the US, tried a ZJK SZLC and said it was non-linear and just not a good blade. He used a TB ALC. I think, part of the issue for him was, he spent a lot of time playing at many depths and liked to play from fairly far back frequently. And that blade does not play in a stable manner from far away because of the extra Zylon in the weave.

So.......take it how you want. But I did not love the blade when I tried it either. I prefer the ALC and regular ZLC but would never want to use the ZLC because, I like the ALC (or the Viscaria) much better.

If he thinks a TB ALC or viscaria is linear, then Zjk SZLC is the opposite. That much I agree on. However, viscaria is way more bouncy than szlc. Just put a fast rubber on both and do some BH blocks against TS. Then you will see what I mean.

Anyways, due to no bounce, szlc is indeed not good away from table unless you have excellent fitness.

UpSideDownCarl
12-16-2020, 01:07 AM
If he thinks a TB ALC or viscaria is linear, then Zjk SZLC is the opposite. That much I agree on. However, viscaria is way more bouncy than szlc. Just put a fast rubber on both and do some BH blocks against TS. Then you will see what I mean.

Anyways, due to no bounce, szlc is indeed not good away from table unless you have excellent fitness.

At the time he was sponsored by Butterfly and he got the blade within a month or two of when it came out just to see how he would like it. So, maybe they changed how they make the blade to some extent. But this, the effect of the Zylon was a lot and not consistent.

BTW: I am not sure I would equate bouncy with linear or non-linear. Like, if the bounce is even and predictable through various levels of impact force, then it could be linear. If on lighter touch there is much less bounce and on heavier impact the amount of bounce is exponentially greater, than, that would be a less linear blade.....Right? And I think that is what he was feeling from the Zylon in the SZLC whereas, a good Viscaria or a good TB ALC (what he was using) the blade's response is very predictable. At least in my experience.

Der_Echte
12-16-2020, 02:40 AM
OP, make urself a Der_Echte Special, play with just that for 12-18 months.

You would have developed a LOT of mad skills by then, that would go to great use in procuring the most expnsive bat you want...

... and you would have saved over 1000 USD in that time on equipment and have developed a lot of the needed skills to operate the expensive rocketship bat if that is your will.

See how I said dat twice for emphasis and made multiple spellink errors?

LilMunchkin
12-16-2020, 04:56 AM
what is the der echte special?

UpSideDownCarl
12-16-2020, 07:18 AM
OP, make urself a Der_Echte Special, play with just that for 12-18 months.

You would have developed a LOT of mad skills by then, that would go to great use in procuring the most expnsive bat you want...

... and you would have saved over 1000 USD in that time on equipment and have developed a lot of the needed skills to operate the expensive rocketship bat if that is your will.

See how I said dat twice for emphasis and made multiple spellink errors?


what is the der echte special?

I am smiling. But I am going to let Der answer. If you looked at some posts in equipment threads from a few, or, maybe, more than a few, years ago, you would be able to find out what the Der_Echte special is. So, maybe if you study hard, you can find out before Der answers. :)

LilMunchkin
12-16-2020, 07:27 AM
I am smiling. But I am going to let Der answer. If you looked at some posts in equipment threads from a few, or, maybe, more than a few, years ago, you would be able to find out what the Der_Echte special is. So, maybe if you study hard, you can find out before Der answers. :)


Ive heard of it but i just forgot

LilMunchkin
12-16-2020, 08:02 AM
is chack sheet ok for inverted rubber, sorry unrelated question