View Full Version : Is 1 Ply Kiso Hinoki good with Short Pips?

03-08-2021, 12:28 AM
I tried a year ago short pips on a Neubauer Titan combo blade, as I also play with long pips on the other side. I stopped as it felt like I had lost too much power, compared to my regular setup (1 Ply Kiso Hinoki with Calibra LT).

My question is: Would my 1 ply Kiso HInoki blade be good for short pips, or is it too soft. Everything I read says that short pips are best on a hard blade, and Kiso is not hard, but is fast. If other blades would be much faster, what do you think would be the fastest? The short pips I liked were Waran, as it suited my swing and seemed to be about the fastest to me.

Thanks for any help.

03-14-2021, 11:52 PM
I have a 729 802-40 short pips on my 'for fun' Xiom Sheung Power Hinoki 1 ply - Love it for the counter attacking speed and ability to hit through spin :)

Works well for it actually, which a surprise for me. I suggest you give it a go as a 729 802-40 is a very affordable rubber.

03-15-2021, 02:27 AM
I will be experimenting with short pips on one-ply hinoki. Typically Moristo SP on DS90. Haven't had a chance to test it out because of Covid-19. But will resuming playing in mid-April.

03-15-2021, 06:58 AM
I've only owned 1 single ply (Nittaku Rorin). Felt good when smashing, nice "juicy" but solid feedback.

But other than that, felt numb on all other shots. 1 plies are always too thick for their own good, gives up too much impact feedback.

A 7 ply hinoki is a good alternative. Septear was too thin (for me) and flexible. But a ~7mm Darker 7p or Xiom S7 should fit your bill. Feels crisper, and more solid than my 1-ply.

03-15-2021, 08:12 AM