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dAbandit0
05-15-2021, 06:27 PM
I want to switch to that classic old Chinese man short pips penholder hitter style but with some Rpb attacks because it looks super fun and I don't really have any intention of going pro. I am already a penholder and I have fairly strong wrists and hands so a heavier setup within reason is not a huge deal I plan to use 802 mystery pips in a 2.2 mm sponge and yinhe moon on my backhand. I want a blade that I can keep for a long time that isn't too expensive, I have heard that players of this style either use basswood blades or 7ply blades I saw the Avalox p700 on ttnpp for 40 dollars and they also carry the rubbers that I want. I have also seen this blade called the DHS 032 all on AliExpress for a bit less but I have heard some mixed feelings about it on other forums. Would one of these be a good blade or should I look elsewhere? Also I am running a bit low on glue so I would like to get all of the stuff from one place so they can assemble it for me. And what color pips should I use? cause I have seen lots of different players using either red or black on their forehand

MK73
05-16-2021, 12:26 AM
DHS PF4 032 blade, I think.


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yogi_bear
05-16-2021, 01:47 AM
The new 032s are garbage. They are not like the old 032s I know. Maybe try other blades such as MA lin extra offensive.

dAbandit0
05-16-2021, 03:08 AM
The new 032s are garbage. They are not like the old 032s I know. Maybe try other blades such as MA lin extra offensive.
What about the p700 or possibly the xiom extreme s I have heard good things about both

Lula
05-16-2021, 06:02 AM
What blade Do you have now?

lasta
05-16-2021, 09:04 AM
Hi, I went from penhold short pips + rpb to "old man" single rubber style.

032 is great, 08 even better (cleaner), other brands make all basswood too. But:
1. Hard to find (especially if you have weight/thickness preferences),
2. Heavy (100g+). Not so much a problem with wrist strength, but grip slip can be unnerving.

For 2 sided, 85-95g 7 ply is a safe bet. Clipper, Extreme S, Force Pro, Andro Timber etc, are more or less interchangeable in terms of performance. But find a shape that fits your grip best. Xiom tends to have narrow necks, Andro and Tibhar are beefy, Stiga is somewhere in the middle.

For me, wider necks/handles feel more stable for rpb and are less prone to slipping. But if you lean more towards modern players who choke up on their grip (Wang Hao), then a narrow neck might be more comfortable.

FYI He Zhi Wen uses Clipper CR.

yogi_bear
05-16-2021, 10:13 AM
If you want a somewhat better dhs 08 or 032, try to find the 60th anniversary special edition by dhs.

yogi_bear
05-16-2021, 11:50 AM
Stiga Nostalgia All+ is also good.

Rinforzando
05-16-2021, 11:58 AM
Stiga Clipper, you can't go wrong with this blade. He Zhi Wen and Wang Zeng YI use this blade

yogi_bear
05-16-2021, 12:55 PM
What about the p700 or possibly the xiom extreme s I have heard good things about both
Both are also very good.

dAbandit0
05-16-2021, 02:19 PM
I have a yinhe n11s But I have a huge dent on the side that separates the top layer so I can't change the rubber I think I'm just going to go for the p700

virtuososiu
05-19-2021, 10:34 PM
Stiga Nostalgia All+ is also good.
How does Nostalgia All + play compare to Clipper or Adelie ? thanks yogi bear

yogi_bear
05-20-2021, 06:27 AM
How does Nostalgia All + play compare to Clipper or Adelie ? thanks yogi bear
It felt slower but margin is small. The Wenge outer gives the nostalgia all a more crisp and hard feel on impact.

wappak
05-20-2021, 03:29 PM
Im a onesided cpen shortpips style, the best blade i have tried for shortpips are regular clipper, yinhe pd437 clipper clone, xiom hinoki s7, donic ovtcharov senso v1, and palio way 005, all of them are 7plys, among those blades it turns out the cheapest palio blade suits my style, it is best when paired with very soft max short pips, i pair it with dms firestorm soft max, hope this will help you choose your set up

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dAbandit0
05-20-2021, 05:41 PM
I didnt end up buying the avalox but I now have my heart set on the xiom extreme s with 802 mystery 3 but what hardness should I use and what sponge thickness also should I buy them in red or black?

wappak
05-21-2021, 12:14 AM
I didnt end up buying the avalox but I now have my heart set on the xiom extreme s with 802 mystery 3 but what hardness should I use and what sponge thickness also should I buy them in red or black?Go with 2.0mm or max, soft to medium if you want to go all out attack, thinner sponge if you want sink or distruptive effect on your shots, mystery 3 rubbers are hard even if you get the softest 36 sponge

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yogi_bear
05-21-2021, 06:55 PM
I didnt end up buying the avalox but I now have my heart set on the xiom extreme s with 802 mystery 3 but what hardness should I use and what sponge thickness also should I buy them in red or black?
2.0mm is already enough. Extreme S is really fast.

dAbandit0
05-21-2021, 07:53 PM
2.0mm is already enough. Extreme S is really fast.
Ill go for the 1.9 mm but what hardness?

yogi_bear
05-23-2021, 04:01 PM
Ill go for the 1.9 mm but what hardness?
maybe the 802-40 mystery 3 since it has a softer sponge.

Ch3nM3ng
05-23-2021, 04:53 PM
I played Pips out with Clipper Wood a few years ago.
Put some DHS C-8 medium pips on my FH and won many points by annoying guys with weird pushes. Control is top notch.
Also tried a soft, spinny short pip (discontinued Adidas Blaze spin) and that worked wonders. Was able to execute some mid-distance loops with that as well. If weight is no issue (weight wasn't gonna be an issue with how light Pips-out rubbers are anyway) you might want to consider a JPen as well. A lot of vintage 9mm blades out there as well as new affordable Nittaku thinner models with no paint on the reverse side.
You'll often find comments stating the "feel" in these Hinoki blades are excellent but don't take my word for it. Try it for yourself.
Although seeing you listing Avalox p700 there you may want to get that too considering how rare they are to find these days.

P700, Clipper, some Hinoki, all good for your purposes and just good blades in general.

dAbandit0
05-23-2021, 10:42 PM
maybe the 802-40 mystery 3 since it has a softer sponge.
I want to go for the regular 802 so I might just go for the softest 35 degree sponge

dAbandit0
05-24-2021, 06:07 PM
I just ordered the extreme s with 1.9mm 802 35 hardness and focus 3 snipe I will make a post about what I think of it when it arrives