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azlan
04-17-2012, 10:39 AM
Hey guys,

Here's a chance for you to settle a little dispute among my colleagues. Silly as it may sound, but it's all in good fun:).

So here goes.
They were talking about rubbers and 4 came up repeatedly. They're Rakza 7, Tenergy 05, Xiom Sigma Pro and Calibra LT. Now, they want to know which of these rubbers is the most powerful in terms of spin and speed:). The blade they have decided it shall be Butterfly Timo ZLC.

They will then decide on the majority of the favoured answers from the TTD members once in for all, and I may live in peace.:)

Opinions and thoughts on the rubbers are most welcome:)

fongchengloy
04-17-2012, 10:54 AM
Hey guys,

Here's a chance for you to settle a little dispute among my colleagues. Silly as it may sound, but it's all in good fun:).

So here goes.
They were talking about rubbers and 4 came up repeatedly. They're Rakza 7, Tenergy 05, Xiom Sigma Pro and Calibra LT. Now, they want to know which of these rubbers is the most powerful in terms of spin and speed:). The blade they have decided it shall be Butterfly Timo ZLC.



They will then decide on the majority of the favoured answers from the TTD members once in for all, and I may live in peace.:)

Opinions and thoughts on the rubbers are most welcome:)

Friend, this is not an easy question to answer but I will try my best as I have used all these rubbers and my opinion are as follows even thought the difference may be minimal:
In term of SPIN - T05 > R7 > LT > S Pro
In tern of SPEED - S PRO > T05 > R7 > LT

WiWa
04-17-2012, 11:00 AM
Isn't the Sigma the slower, spinnier XIOM? I played with it on a clubmates bat, it was clearly softer than the Omega he had on the other side. Im not familiar with the R7 and Calibra, but I think T05 should be faster than Sigma and Sigma should be spinnier than T05.

Anders
04-17-2012, 11:06 AM
Why not add a poll Azlan, it would make it easier for you to read the results? ;)

The Tenergy should be the best with this blade, since Butterfly blades are made for Tenergy and Tenergy is def made for Butterfly blades.. But I have not tried that blade, so I can't really say anything else about this than I have :)

Reiin
04-17-2012, 11:30 AM
Definitely 05 overall! No dispute there!!

Giangt
04-17-2012, 02:24 PM
I have to follow Anders and Reiin and agree with them. Best setup would be with Tenergy 05's. Tried with TB AlC and ZLF and they were awesome in terms of feel, control and dwell time to produce spin.

RIPPER
04-17-2012, 02:34 PM
Okay, the best two rubbers out of these four are tenergy and rakza 7...all very good quality rubbers but rakza 7 when new is very spinny it has a different sort of gum on it and is very spinny and still up there close to speed with tenergy....as for xiom a good rubber but doesn't propell very well upwards like tenergy does, as xiom seems to drop a bit. Also obviously tenergy is most popular and is perceived as best rubber by many but that is because butterfly obviously has a good name, rakza 7 in comparison is a largely underated rubber. but tenergy im pretty sure is faster but not as spinny

azlan
04-17-2012, 06:02 PM
Good idea Anders. I was thinking the same thing, but there will be 16 probabilities and it's gonna be so confusing :) hehehe The way Fong did was fine by me..:) Personally, I think in terms of :-

Spin : Rakza7>T05>CalLT>XSigPro
Speed : CalLT>T05>XSigPro>​Rakza7

chughtai
04-17-2012, 06:59 PM
ripper is absolutely right when R7 is new its the spinniest rubber in the world mine is two monts old nd it has lost its spin but the speed reamins the same nd no doubt T05 speed is beyond imagination i tried my friends zlc with t05 i could not control it i was just usin my rist nd the ball was flying like hell the other rubber on it was donic coppa x3 silver on BH

Anders
04-17-2012, 10:17 PM
Good idea Anders. I was thinking the same thing, but there will be 16 probabilities and it's gonna be so confusing :) hehehe The way Fong did was fine by me..:) Personally, I think in terms of :-

Spin : Rakza7>T05>CalLT>XSigPro
Speed : CalLT>T05>XSigPro>​Rakza7


But then, if T05 stays on the same position in both comaparings.. We can count it in as the best rubbers, since it is equal in both spin and speed compared to the other rubbers? :)

Mr. RicharD
04-18-2012, 12:24 AM
Hey Azlan just put a poll to answer your initial question. Which rubber has both most speed and spin. I think this can give you the numbers you're looking for.

Personally haven't tried the Xiom S pro or the Calibra LT. I know Tenergy 05 has more of a mid distance speed and is just as spinny as Razka 7. I think overall though T05 is probably the best overall.

I've heard that Sigma users enjoy off the bounce play for the most speed and spin from that rubber. Calibra LT seems to be another mid distance rubber from what I've heard from club members, but I don't know anything about the Xiom Sigma. Players here only use Vega or Omega something like that.

azlan
04-18-2012, 12:44 AM
But then, if T05 stays on the same position in both comaparings.. We can count it in as the best rubbers, since it is equal in both spin and speed compared to the other rubbers? :)

Hahaha it's true isn't it? That's very observant of you buddy...well spotted!! :)

barca
04-18-2012, 01:12 AM
Okay, the best two rubbers out of these four are tenergy and rakza 7...all very good quality rubbers but rakza 7 when new is very spinny it has a different sort of gum on it and is very spinny and still up there close to speed with tenergy....as for xiom a good rubber but doesn't propell very well upwards like tenergy does, as xiom seems to drop a bit. Also obviously tenergy is most popular and is perceived as best rubber by many but that is because butterfly obviously has a good name, rakza 7 in comparison is a largely underated rubber. but tenergy im pretty sure is faster but not as spinny

Well, im 100% agreed w u my fren..!

Dibosan
04-18-2012, 04:55 AM
Andro Hexer HD says hello.
From the list: T05>R7

Hexer HD >>>>>>>>>>>>>T05>R7
Faster, more spin and more controllable than T05

Scorpnox
04-19-2012, 04:22 PM
Andro Hexer HD says hello.
From the list: T05>R7

Hexer HD >>>>>>>>>>>>>T05>R7
Faster, more spin and more controllable than T05

Is it that good?

azlan
04-19-2012, 04:26 PM
Is it that good?

Yeah, I'm curious too:) Maybe Hexer suits him well that he can really put the spin on the ball.

WiWa
04-19-2012, 05:39 PM
Is it that good?

Can any good come from Andro? :p Makes me curious as well..

chughtai
04-19-2012, 06:28 PM
well friends if thats the case what about the introduction of a new rubber to this list tibhar genius sound :P

Mauno100
04-19-2012, 09:28 PM
I've only played with one rubber that I liked as much or even a little more than tenergy and that rubber is Xiom Omega IV Asia. The only problem I had with it was it broke after two days. I changed back to tenergy after going through about 6 Omegas.

sxTT
04-19-2012, 11:03 PM
Tenergy has the best spin to speed ratio in a real game, sure in practice you can hit as hard as you can and say calibra is the fastest or play a pure looping drill and say barracuda is the spinniest but when i play a real game like for example a tournament with the maximum speed and spin that i can use tenergy has the best ratio on it, but then again im not a high level player so i cant speak for others, just my experience though

Giangt
04-20-2012, 02:13 PM
I have played with Hexer HD and I was quite happy playing with it. The top sheet is harder than Rakza 7 and T05 and is a pretty fast rubber. It has a lower throw than both mentioned rubbers. Not good in humid conditions though and it wears out pretty fast. I have a club mate that plays with it on ZLF he is really found of it.

Der_Echte
04-21-2012, 01:03 AM
Calibra LT is faster than T05 by a country mile, no contest. Calibra LT, on that blade has just as much spin as T05. ON slower strokes T05 has clearly more spin.

YosuaYosan
04-21-2012, 02:47 AM
I've only tried the T05 for a while. Its good, spinny and all but I can't really compare it with the other boomers..

Without despute, those rubbers probably have more spin and speed compared to my Kokutaku 007 New Version :p

azlan
04-21-2012, 04:41 AM
Calibra LT is faster than T05 by a country mile, no contest. Calibra LT, on that blade has just as much spin as T05. ON slower strokes T05 has clearly more spin.

Interesting point there D_E. I think so too. If you really put power on your shots, the Calibra LT tops the rest. But on slower loopy shots, T05 takes the cake. I find that it's true with Calibra. It takes a lot of control to do that slow, spinny, loopy shot.

MildSeven
04-21-2012, 12:33 PM
Whenever I block for others on their forehand looping warmups, it is always pretty clear how much more powerful the Tenergy balls are, but I have to admit I've never blocked against the newest tensors. I've found that its not really that accurate for the user to determine the power, its only really accurately perceived by the person receiving the balls. What I do when I am curious sometimes is I loop against a block and work my way up to full power with different setups and ask the blocker which setup felt more powerful. If you guys do that you will get some surprising responses sometimes - different from what you may think from the perspective of using them.

azlan
04-21-2012, 12:46 PM
Whenever I block for others on their forehand looping warmups, it is always pretty clear how much more powerful the Tenergy balls are, but I have to admit I've never blocked against the newest tensors. I've found that its not really that accurate for the user to determine the power, its only really accurately perceived by the person receiving the balls. What I do when I am curious sometimes is I loop against a block and work my way up to full power with different setups and ask the blocker which setup felt more powerful. If you guys do that you will get some surprising responses sometimes - different from what you may think from the perspective of using them.

Interesting point. It is true I think. Thanx for pointing that out buddy:)