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knightwalker
05-18-2012, 02:26 AM
Hello all,

I am just new here. I am looking to get new blade and new rubber. The current of my setup is

Butterfly Chinese AL Blade and Xiom Sigma Pro (Max). My type of playing is top spin offensive.

Is Stiga Rosewood NCT V and Tengery 05 will be good combination ? Anybody have experienced with that combination ?

Or what would i choose to play with Stiga Rosewood NCT V? Please kindly suggest.

Thank you.

With Regards,

ducksick
05-18-2012, 02:47 AM
Currently, my set up, 729-08ES for FH and T64FX as BH. Im pretty happy with the T64FX, can easily perform RPB(am penholder) at any given time with Rosewood V. You wont regret at all.

knightwalker
05-18-2012, 03:32 AM
Hello Ducksick,

Thanks for the reply. Yea, I read all the reviews and I am really eager to get the Stiga Rosewood V. Just would like to know whether it will be fine with T05 since that two combination will be pretty much expensive. :D

UpSideDownCarl
05-18-2012, 05:58 AM
What is your purpose for getting a new blade? Is the old one too fast? not fast enough? want more spin? want more control?

Rosewood NCT V does work well with Tenergy 05. It also works well with Xiom Omega IV Pro and Europe. But knowing what you want to change by changing your setup would make it easier for people on the forum to help you.

knightwalker
05-18-2012, 07:36 AM
Hello UpSideDownCarl,

I like the current blade setup. The main reason of getting new setup is I just want to try out the RoseWood NCT V because I've never played before with wood blades and most of the people recommend it good, so I just want to try how good it is.

It's nice to know that, that's the good combination. I will buy it and try what's the outcome compare to my current setup.

Thanks for the help.

With Regards,

sxTT
05-18-2012, 03:10 PM
ive tried it, in my opinion the combo is very good for offensive game, loops and counterloops are fast and spinny, but bouncy on short game, definitely not for beginners and intermediate players but more for advance players with really decent technique, just my opinion though and others might disagree

ducksick
05-18-2012, 04:10 PM
Honestly, each of us hav different liking in term of hand feeling, some players prefer vibration, some don't, and some prefer carbon over wood and vice versa.
And my advice to you, think carefully what is your playing style, and figure it out, whether you like wood blade or carbon (5 ply or 7). Like slow, medium,overall or fast blade as well. Then go for a rubbers that you prefer. Afterall, RW5 is good blade... (not the best). I've tried many blade from butterfly to darker, stiga etc etc... and wasted of lots of money in order to find a blade that you like or suit your style.If you've decided, go ahead and try it out RW5.

torrent_1
05-18-2012, 06:45 PM
or tenergy 05 fx forehand and tenergy 64 BH, or tenergy 05 fx from both sides.

UpSideDownCarl
05-18-2012, 07:26 PM
Honestly, each of us hav different liking in term of hand feeling, some players prefer vibration, some don't, and some prefer carbon over wood and vice versa.
And my advice to you, think carefully what is your playing style, and figure it out, whether you like wood blade or carbon (5 ply or 7). Like slow, medium,overall or fast blade as well. Then go for a rubbers that you prefer. Afterall, RW5 is good blade... (not the best). I've tried many blade from butterfly to darker, stiga etc etc... and wasted of lots of money in order to find a blade that you like or suit your style.If you've decided, go ahead and try it out RW5.

Good post. I agree with what ducksick is saying. If your current setup is good and you like it and you just want to try another setup, it is a good setup. The blade and the rubbers you are looking for are top of the line. If you can afford to have a second setup that is different there is no reason not to go for it. If money is tight, then I would say stick with the setup you already have.

I love trying new things but I also do not like spending money unnecessarily, so, how I try different setups is, any time I play with someone whose racket I have not tried yet, I ask if I can try their setup to see how it plays, take a few hits try a few different kinds of shots to feel the wood and the rubbers. I do have several blades. I don't need any more. Many of the blades I have I do not need. And I notice I only play with one blade at a time. For the past 9 months I have been playing with a Stiga Clipper. If something happens and I need a new blade, I have one without having to buy a new one. :)

So, it is nice, when you can afford it to treat yourself. But, then, don't let it mess your game up because you keep switching between setups and cannot decide which one you like better. :) That would be my suggestion.

Just so you know: your current setup might be faster than the Rosewood with the Tenergy. I am pretty sure that the Butterfly Chinese AL Blade is a little faster than the Rosewood. I think Sigma and Tenergy are close in speed but the Rosewood and the Tenergy will get you a little more spin. I think this is accurate about how the two setups will be different so that is information you might want to know before getting the new setup. :)

Good luck and have fun with the new and old setups. :)

knightwalker
05-19-2012, 04:40 AM
Honestly, each of us hav different liking in term of hand feeling, some players prefer vibration, some don't, and some prefer carbon over wood and vice versa.
And my advice to you, think carefully what is your playing style, and figure it out, whether you like wood blade or carbon (5 ply or 7). Like slow, medium,overall or fast blade as well. Then go for a rubbers that you prefer. Afterall, RW5 is good blade... (not the best). I've tried many blade from butterfly to darker, stiga etc etc... and wasted of lots of money in order to find a blade that you like or suit your style.If you've decided, go ahead and try it out RW5.

Hello Ducksick,

Yea, I see what you mean. It's really nice suggestion for me. Yes, I've tried serveral blades and rubber (around 3 setup) before this current setup. Somes suit my taste, somes aren't and some's are really bad combination between blade and rubber and I really does not like the feel of the taste. That' why this time, I looked around for the expereinced user who've tried this setup before.


Good post. I agree with what ducksick is saying. If your current setup is good and you like it and you just want to try another setup, it is a good setup. The blade and the rubbers you are looking for are top of the line. If you can afford to have a second setup that is different there is no reason not to go for it. If money is tight, then I would say stick with the setup you already have.

I love trying new things but I also do not like spending money unnecessarily, so, how I try different setups is, any time I play with someone whose racket I have not tried yet, I ask if I can try their setup to see how it plays, take a few hits try a few different kinds of shots to feel the wood and the rubbers. I do have several blades. I don't need any more. Many of the blades I have I do not need. And I notice I only play with one blade at a time. For the past 9 months I have been playing with a Stiga Clipper. If something happens and I need a new blade, I have one without having to buy a new one. :)

So, it is nice, when you can afford it to treat yourself. But, then, don't let it mess your game up because you keep switching between setups and cannot decide which one you like better. :) That would be my suggestion.

Just so you know: your current setup might be faster than the Rosewood with the Tenergy. I am pretty sure that the Butterfly Chinese AL Blade is a little faster than the Rosewood. I think Sigma and Tenergy are close in speed but the Rosewood and the Tenergy will get you a little more spin. I think this is accurate about how the two setups will be different so that is information you might want to know before getting the new setup. :)

Good luck and have fun with the new and old setups. :)

Hello UpSideDownCarl,

Thanks for the detailed explanation. I really appreciate it. That's what I want to hear it about. Yea, I gues it would be slower than Chinese AL Blade, coz my current setup is quite fast, I don't need to use much energy to smash the ball. What do you think about NCT VII ? Will it be faster than NCT V ? But it would be less control right ? Yea, I guess T05 will be much more spinner than Sigma. How about in the hardness part? Is it harder than Sigma ? But for the thickness wide, Sigma is thicker than T05.

Thank you everyone again for your suggestions.

With Regards,

azlan
05-19-2012, 04:54 PM
Yup, Rosewood VII is definitely faster but it may not necessarily suit you. Rosewood gives a lot of feel and control. And T05...what can I say is that they're expensive. But stick it in a piece of a drift wood, it will still give you immense spin. Great combi, but if you have a sound technique, it can be devastatingly good.

ducksick
05-20-2012, 08:31 AM
What Carl and Azlan suggested, and it seems your current set up are fast, then go for slower blade (5ply) or before you buy RW5, as Carls said, go try other players blade, to feel the feeling. Honestly, RW5 feeling is good, and you no need to struggle at all. This is my own feeling, and beware when you purchase any Stiga blade ya. Check it carefully, cos some fake Stiga blade around, esp made in china which look identical and only can be identify by feeling, the quality of the woods, workmanship and etc mate.

Cheer....

abhay
03-29-2013, 07:24 AM
Sorry for bumping an old thread. But i am pretty much in the same situation as knightwalker is,so thought of not creating a new thread.

Almost a week back, i purchased a Stiga Rosewood NCT VII and paired it with a Rakza 7 (max) on both sides. My earlier setup was Mark V with Butterfly Jonyer H-AN.

After playing a while with my new setup, i am seeing that the blade is really heavy compared to my earlier setup. The main reason i upgraded to a new setup is to have more speed and spin in my game. I actually expected a lot from the new setup, but sadly it's not the case in reality.
On the positive , my new setup has got great control . I really used to struggle with 'away from table' shots in my old setup, but with this it's a cake walk :)
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I play close to table and occasionally from a distant( max 3-5 meters) . I am more of an offensive forehand and play topsin & touch shots using Back hand.

I am now thinking of changing my setup. Either just the rubbers or the whole setup.

The options i am considering are

New setup:
Blade: Butterfly Innerforce ZLC with Tenergy 80 on BH. Not sure which one should i use for FH

Just the rubbers:
Tenergy 80 on BH & again not sure what i need to go for on FH :confused:

So my questions are,
1. Should i go for a complete new setup ?
2. Should i just change the rubbers ? In this case what do you think i should use as a FH rubber?
3. How would the Tenergy XX & NCT VII combination be ?

UpSideDownCarl
03-29-2013, 12:56 PM
Rosewood NCT 7 is heavy. Too heavy. I would get a new blade if you are thinking of it.

The Innerforce ZLC is a beast. That is soooooooo fast it is crazy. It has a lot of control for how fast it is. But it is fast.

I would think about Innerforce ZLF (more than fast enough), Rosewood X0, as fast as the Rosewood NCT 7 but very light, Innerforce ALC, or, if you like Hinoki: Darker 7p-2A.7t. Those are all amazing blades.

abhay
03-29-2013, 08:13 PM
I think i will go with the butterfly ZLC. What do you think about the rubbers? What should i pair up with Tenergy 80 on the fh ?
Also how would you compare Butterfly Amultart ZL carbon with innerforce ZLC ?

UpSideDownCarl
03-29-2013, 08:51 PM
I think i will go with the butterfly ZLC. What do you think about the rubbers? What should i pair up with Tenergy 80 on the fh ?
Also how would you compare Butterfly Amultart ZL carbon with innerforce ZLC ?

What do you have on your forehand now?

abhay
03-30-2013, 04:55 AM
What do you have on your forehand now?

At the moment i am having Rakza 7 (max) on both BH & FH. I am thinking of moving to Tenergy 80 on the BH.. not sure which one should i use on FH.

UpSideDownCarl
03-30-2013, 05:55 AM
Okay. If you like Rakza 7 you could use it. If you want to go with Tenergy, try 05 for forehand.

Truthfully, there are a lot of good rubbers out there. With a racket that fast, using Hurricane or Skyline 3 NEO is not a bad idea either even though that is a heavy rubber and you need to boost it. I like the rubber I am using a lot. Xiom Omega IV Pro. That is a good rubber for the forehand. Sooo many options.

abhay
03-30-2013, 08:02 AM
Okay. If you like Rakza 7 you could use it. If you want to go with Tenergy, try 05 for forehand.

Truthfully, there are a lot of good rubbers out there. With a racket that fast, using Hurricane or Skyline 3 NEO is not a bad idea either even though that is a heavy rubber and you need to boost it. I like the rubber I am using a lot. Xiom Omega IV Pro. That is a good rubber for the forehand. Sooo many options.

So, Tenergy 05 is slower than 64 but can generate more spin among 64 & 80 is it?

Also , i just did few searches and came to know that Innerforce ZLC although has great speed but lacks the feel you get from the blade. Innerforce ZLF however has pretty much the same speed but has a good feedback. Is it?

UpSideDownCarl
03-30-2013, 12:39 PM
So, Tenergy 05 is slower than 64 but can generate more spin among 64 & 80 is it?

Also , i just did few searches and came to know that Innerforce ZLC although has great speed but lacks the feel you get from the blade. Innerforce ZLF however has pretty much the same speed but has a good feedback. Is it?

The numbers they say on the internet are not exactly true. Watch Dan's video review of Tenergy 80. It is slower than 05 and gets more spin. But when you flat hit, it is flat and has less control.

Innerforce ZLF gives you feedback but it is not as fast as ZLC. ZLC is crazy fast. Not useful, too fast. Innerforce ZLF is still faster than the Rosewood NCT VII but it is not too fast and not much faster. It is about the speed of a Timo Boll ALC but has more ball feel, more feedback.

UpSideDownCarl
03-30-2013, 12:41 PM
Here, look at Dan's review of Tenergy 80. You can see him hitting with it. It is a video review. You can see it is not super fast but that it is spinny.

http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?4589-Tenergy-80-Review

abhay
03-30-2013, 09:02 PM
Here, look at Dan's review of Tenergy 80. You can see him hitting with it. It is a video review. You can see it is not super fast but that it is spinny.

http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?4589-Tenergy-80-Review

Thanks Carl for your inputs. I will go for the Tenergy 05 for fh and 80 as bh, with zlf. Just one last question... Is the zlf lighter than nct ? And in general will a difference in say 17gm be a noticeable difference?

revulucao
03-30-2013, 09:30 PM
i dont look at money to choose your bat ahaha

TableTennisDK
03-30-2013, 09:59 PM
Hello.
I play that exact combination, and it is very good. But I do recommend boosting your 05 rubber on the Rosewood, because the 05 is hard surfaced, and the blade is also hard surfaced, and you can gain a little softness and touch by boosting it. I do that.

Tinykin
03-30-2013, 10:11 PM
Hello.
I play that exact combination, and it is very good. But I do recommend boosting your 05 rubber on the Rosewood, because the 05 is hard surfaced, and the blade is also hard surfaced, and you can gain a little softness and touch by boosting it. I do that.

Just curious. What do use and how do you apply it to get more 'softness and touch' ?

UpSideDownCarl
03-31-2013, 07:28 AM
Thanks Carl for your inputs. I will go for the Tenergy 05 for fh and 80 as bh, with zlf. Just one last question... Is the zlf lighter than nct ? And in general will a difference in say 17gm be a noticeable difference?

Between a Rosewood NCT VII and an Innerforce ZLF, there should be a 10-15 gram difference depending on the blade you get since the weight of wood blades can always vary +/- 5 grams. 10 grams is a huge difference. Also, most people who play Butterfly blades always complain that Stiga blades are too heavy, even when you give them a Stiga blade that weighs the same amount as the Butterfly blade they are using. This is because Stiga makes blades with hollowed handles, even the ones that look like they are solid are actually hollowed. This makes the blades head heavy. The balance of the weight is in the head. With Butterfly blades, the handle is solid and heavy. The balance of weight is in the handle. So a Butterfly blade that is the same weight will feel lighter than a Stiga blade that is the same weight.

abhay
03-31-2013, 03:21 PM
Between a Rosewood NCT VII and an Innerforce ZLF, there should be a 10-15 gram difference depending on the blade you get since the weight of wood blades can always vary +/- 5 grams. 10 grams is a huge difference. Also, most people who play Butterfly blades always complain that Stiga blades are too heavy, even when you give them a Stiga blade that weighs the same amount as the Butterfly blade they are using. This is because Stiga makes blades with hollowed handles, even the ones that look like they are solid are actually hollowed. This makes the blades head heavy. The balance of the weight is in the head. With Butterfly blades, the handle is solid and heavy. The balance of weight is in the handle. So a Butterfly blade that is the same weight will feel lighter than a Stiga blade that is the same weight.

So essentially, NCT VII + Rakza 7(max) on both sides weighs more than Innerforce ZLF + Tenergy 80 2.1 + Tenergy 05 (2.1) , is it?

TableTennisDK
03-31-2013, 09:26 PM
Just curious. What do use and how do you apply it to get more 'softness and touch' ?

Hello Tinykin.

I apply the Dandoy booster, which in my opinion is the best for Tenergy rubbers. You just spread the booster on the sponge.

UpSideDownCarl
04-01-2013, 09:05 AM
So essentially, NCT VII + Rakza 7(max) on both sides weighs more than Innerforce ZLF + Tenergy 80 2.1 + Tenergy 05 (2.1) , is it?

I assume you mean Rosewood NCT VII. Yes the Rosewood NCT VII should weigh more with Rakza 7 on it than the Innerforce ZLF with Tenergy 80 and Tenergy 05.