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Wiseman
06-26-2012, 10:08 AM
Comments about new Rasant? Getting 2.1 mm Rasant and Iam going to boost it.
Playing with offensiv + blade, hope its not getting too fast for me.

Anders123
06-26-2012, 10:14 AM
I have played with the rasant 1.9mm for 2 months or so.
I think it's a really nice rubber, pretty fast but not with much spin. It's easy to control, however i have been using an offensive - blade, so it will probably be a lot faster on your blade also because it's the 2.1mm

Vega
06-26-2012, 10:21 AM
Atm I have really much work to do so I don't have the time to write a long review about it.. But I have one 2.1 Rasant here to test it for free and did 3 practice sessions so far with it. But I have to say i don't really like the rubber :( I think it has a quite unlinear behaviour, really fast (in my opinion too fast) at slow strokes or short-short game etc. but if you try to kill the shot and go full power it's quite disappointing. And the general feeling is kind of strange compared to all other rubbers I played so far (and some teammates agreed). I'll give it 1 or 2 more tries and then probably go back to Hexer, if I find the time I can post some more about it but probably not in the next 1 or 2 weeks..

olvarox
06-27-2012, 11:56 PM
Atm I have really much work to do so I don't have the time to write a long review about it.. But I have one 2.1 Rasant here to test it for free and did 3 practice sessions so far with it. But I have to say i don't really like the rubber :( I think it has a quite unlinear behaviour, really fast (in my opinion too fast) at slow strokes or short-short game etc. but if you try to kill the shot and go full power it's quite disappointing. And the general feeling is kind of strange compared to all other rubbers I played so far (and some teammates agreed). I'll give it 1 or 2 more tries and then probably go back to Hexer, if I find the time I can post some more about it but probably not in the next 1 or 2 weeks..

Okay, Vega... I'll be waiting!

Wiseman
07-03-2012, 12:32 PM
Get my Rasant and put 2 layers Dianchi oil, after 1 h quite fine dome. Going to wait couple of days and then glueing it to my Off+ blade. Cant wait so long.... but i have to. Rasant looks and feels like very good rubber, topsheet like a copy of Tenergy and the green sponge is very speciall.

sxTT
07-03-2012, 11:19 PM
Get my Rasant and put 2 layers Dianchi oil, after 1 h quite fine dome. Going to wait couple of days and then glueing it to my Off+ blade. Cant wait so long.... but i have to. Rasant looks and feels like very good rubber, topsheet like a copy of Tenergy and the green sponge is very speciall.

sorry but just out of curiosity why boost tensors? i thought tensors already has speed glue effect incorporated in the porous sponge?

noob
07-04-2012, 06:11 AM
Comments about new Rasant? Getting 2.1 mm Rasant and Iam going to boost it.
Playing with offensiv + blade, hope its not getting too fast for me.

boosted rasant on an OFF+ blade will be too fast for nearly anyone... are you on the CNT?:p

Wiseman
07-04-2012, 06:57 AM
No, iam not CNT-player..heheh. But my forehand is very powerful with a LOT of Speed. Playing before with Sigma Pro, also a tensor rubber. Then i tried it with booster and nobody cant imagine the difference of "touch" and that lovely "smack" sound what you´ll get with boost.
Problems with hard tensor rubbers for me is returnings of serves and powerloops. Try sometime , take some old tensorrubber and put 2-3layers dianchi oil, you´ll notice a dramatic difference. With a dianchi i can use my rubbers a quite long time , 2-3months and i am training 4-5 times a week 2-3h/pass.

sxTT
07-04-2012, 11:30 AM
No, iam not CNT-player..heheh. But my forehand is very powerful with a LOT of Speed. Playing before with Sigma Pro, also a tensor rubber. Then i tried it with booster and nobody cant imagine the difference of "touch" and that lovely "smack" sound what you´ll get with boost.
Problems with hard tensor rubbers for me is returnings of serves and powerloops. Try sometime , take some old tensorrubber and put 2-3layers dianchi oil, you´ll notice a dramatic difference. With a dianchi i can use my rubbers a quite long time , 2-3months and i am training 4-5 times a week 2-3h/pass.

you boost 1 time and then boost again after 3 months? did i get it right?

Wiseman
07-04-2012, 12:13 PM
I boost my new rubber with 2 lyers D-oil, after 4-6weeks repeat with 1 lyer, reboost just with 1 lyer. Like i say i guaranteed you´ll notice a BIG differense to non-boosted tensorrubber. And its not toofast for me, because the sponge is "softer" with D-oil.
If you´ll try D-oil an old non-boosted rubber you´ll need to put 2-3 layers oil.
And be patient, rubber need to dry 4-6 days after boosting.

noob
07-04-2012, 01:18 PM
No, iam not CNT-player..heheh. But my forehand is very powerful with a LOT of Speed. Playing before with Sigma Pro, also a tensor rubber. Then i tried it with booster and nobody cant imagine the difference of "touch" and that lovely "smack" sound what you´ll get with boost.
Problems with hard tensor rubbers for me is returnings of serves and powerloops. Try sometime , take some old tensorrubber and put 2-3layers dianchi oil, you´ll notice a dramatic difference. With a dianchi i can use my rubbers a quite long time , 2-3months and i am training 4-5 times a week 2-3h/pass.

i'd be willing to try it for fun if dianchi oil wasn't so expensive. now and then i'll apply different oils (baby oil, lamp oil, etc) to cheap rubbers as an experiment; but that's the extent of my tuning/boosting

UpSideDownCarl
07-04-2012, 08:44 PM
I don't think anyone on the Chinese National Team uses, a blade that is rated higher than Off. And Wang Liqin is using a blade that is all wood and rated Off-. :)

YosuaYosan
07-05-2012, 05:30 AM
I don't think anyone on the Chinese National Team uses, a blade that is rated higher than Off. And Wang Liqin is using a blade that is all wood and rated Off-. :)

I concur Sir.
The only pro using an OFF+ blade in my knowledge is Schlager..

Unless one got a robot-like consistency like Schlagi, an OFF+ blade would be too much imho.
I would rather stick to an ALL+ blade at max.

Wiseman
07-05-2012, 09:18 AM
First test is today, rapport tomorrow. Going to do a normal trainingpass, 2 hours and mayby couble of sets.
Lot of heavyspin training first with a defencive player and then training with a very good offensive player. Lot of focus to receiving serves, I am testing maybe 4 and if my blade feels too fast and lack of control,Í´ll try allround blade.
Have to say that Rasant looks very nice and bounce is amazing...

UpSideDownCarl
07-05-2012, 01:06 PM
First test is today, rapport tomorrow. Going to do a normal trainingpass, 2 hours and mayby couble of sets.
Lot of heavyspin training first with a defencive player and then training with a very good offensive player. Lot of focus to receiving serves, I am testing maybe 4 and if my blade feels too fast and lack of control,Í´ll try allround blade.
Have to say that Rasant looks very nice and bounce is amazing...

Good luck. I hope it goes well and it will be fun to hear how you like it.

Wiseman
07-09-2012, 07:13 AM
i did my 1st training with Rasant. Very good rubber, topspin is excelent, control is better than Sigma pro. It is not too fast with off+ blade. Dianchi makes it a little bit softer and the"touch" is better than non-boost. I must say , tensor rubber is not faster after boost, but more spin and control. Loop vs. loop is so much easier to do. Have tried Tenergy 05 and Rasant is littlebit softer, topsheet gives same spin(mayby more). Hardness is between 05 and 64 Tenergy.

azlan
07-09-2012, 07:44 AM
i did my 1st training with Rasant. Very good rubber, topspin is excelent, control is better than Sigma pro. It is not too fast with off+ blade. Dianchi makes it a little bit softer and the"touch" is better than non-boost. I must say , tensor rubber is not faster after boost, but more spin and control. Loop vs. loop is so much easier to do. Have tried Tenergy 05 and Rasant is littlebit softer, topsheet gives same spin(mayby more). Hardness is between 05 and 64 Tenergy.

Wow, it sure looks good. Tensor rubbers get a lot more supple after boosting and the rubber tend to lose it's tensile strength. Better feel, but you'll pay the price in the speed department. If I am not asking too much....a video would be nice. Hehehe just kidding buddy. Thanx for the review. :)

Jumpy Shifter
10-27-2012, 04:36 PM
Played with this rubber for couple weeks. Premier speed, awesome looping, good control. Too fast on spiny balls though. Good rubber for offensive game, but even better to have something softer on the back of the blade.

RIPPER
10-27-2012, 05:44 PM
yeah is a descent high tension rubber, bit of boost and should be good just make sure you dont put too thick of layer boost on and takes atleast 12 hours to dry

PhilipRJ
06-04-2013, 11:52 PM
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This is what a boosted Rasant looks like ;) – The color of the sponge isn’t that inviting I must say.
Now I decided to boost my Rasant, which I use in my FH. I do this just out of curiosity. My FH is without a doubt my weapon.
I can’t wait till tomorrow, when I get to try it. Maybe my FH will become even better :P

TableTennisDK
06-05-2013, 11:29 AM
Why would anyone boost the Rasant rubber? When applying booster on your rubber, the rubber becomes softer. The Rasant is really soft at first. I played Rasant for one year approximately, and then I changed to Tenergy 64, and I must say, Rasant compared to Tenergy 64 is noway near as good! I boosted my Tenergy on my Rosewood blade, and boosted my Rasant. HUGE DIFFERENCE. I am never changing back to Andro rubbers again. It's just that, Andro rubbers are SOOOO inconsistent and so unpredictable. Tenergy is the right choice. Almost no pro players play Andro, they all play Tenergy. Once you go Tenergy, you will never look back.

The only Andro rubber, that comes close to Tenergy is the Hexer HD!

PhilipRJ
06-05-2013, 02:08 PM
Why would anyone boost the Rasant rubber? When applying booster on your rubber, the rubber becomes softer. The Rasant is really soft at first. I played Rasant for one year approximately, and then I changed to Tenergy 64, and I must say, Rasant compared to Tenergy 64 is noway near as good! I boosted my Tenergy on my Rosewood blade, and boosted my Rasant. HUGE DIFFERENCE. I am never changing back to Andro rubbers again. It's just that, Andro rubbers are SOOOO inconsistent and so unpredictable. Tenergy is the right choice. Almost no pro players play Andro, they all play Tenergy. Once you go Tenergy, you will never look back.

The only Andro rubber, that comes close to Tenergy is the Hexer HD!

That is your opinion. I totally disagree on what you are saying about the Andro rubbers are inconsistent and so unpredictable.
You are right on the the Hexer HD being the closest to the Tenergy, but funny enough is that the Hexer HD is the most inconsistent and unpredictable rubber that Andro has made it is fast though.

As I wrote, I do this out of curiosity. And I agree that it can be a bit pointless to boost a tensor rubber, but I just want to try it.

I see you like very fast rubbers, I like them with more spin. I have more dwell time on the ball with the Rasant than I would have with any tenergy rubber. This makes me able to steer the ball where I want it. That is why I like the Rasant and I find it more consistent.

TableTennisDK
06-05-2013, 04:29 PM
That is your opinion. I totally disagree on what you are saying about the Andro rubbers are inconsistent and so unpredictable.
You are right on the the Hexer HD being the closest to the Tenergy, but funny enough is that the Hexer HD is the most inconsistent and unpredictable rubber that Andro has made it is fast though.

As I wrote, I do this out of curiosity. And I agree that it can be a bit pointless to boost a tensor rubber, but I just want to try it.

I see you like very fast rubbers, I like them with more spin. I have more dwell time on the ball with the Rasant than I would have with any tenergy rubber. This makes me able to steer the ball where I want it. That is why I like the Rasant and I find it more consistent.

Hexer HD is not inconsistent and unpredictable. You say I like fast rubbers? Tenergy 05 is not fast, it is meant to do heavy spin shots, and not high speed. You say you like rubbers with more spin, come on man, we all know that Tenergy produces alot more spin than Andro rubbers, I know what I am talking about, I have played Hexer HD and Rasant for at year, and then changed to Tenergy. Tenergy produces more spin, and Tenergy is one of the most powerfull rubbers out there! That is why Tenergy is so much more expensive than Andro!

PhilipRJ
06-05-2013, 05:05 PM
Tenergy rubbers are expensive because it is Butterfly, it has nothing to do with it being “one of the most powerful out there”. All of butterfly’s top products are very pricey.
That is why so many try to find an alternative. If you pay for your own rubbers you will quickly realize that it is a lot of money for a little difference :)

That being said, I also like the tenergy rubbers, and will probably also play with one in the future. I just have to make a smooth transition. You can’t argue that you have less dwell time with the tenergy rubbers. Hexer HD is a very fast rubber, and tenergy 05 is the slowest of the tenergies, but it still is a fast rubber due to the ball leaving the racket a bit faster than other rubbers.

Of cause they are very good rubbers and that is why they are used by the best players. :)

TableTennisDK
06-05-2013, 05:48 PM
Tenergy rubbers are expensive because it is Butterfly, it has nothing to do with it being “one of the most powerful out there”. All of butterfly’s top products are very pricey.
That is why so many try to find an alternative. If you pay for your own rubbers you will quickly realize that it is a lot of money for a little difference :)

That being said, I also like the tenergy rubbers, and will probably also play with one in the future. I just have to make a smooth transition. You can’t argue that you have less dwell time with the tenergy rubbers. Hexer HD is a very fast rubber, and tenergy 05 is the slowest of the tenergies, but it still is a fast rubber due to the ball leaving the racket a bit faster than other rubbers.

Of cause they are very good rubbers and that is why they are used by the best players. :)
Being on of the most powerfull rubbers, players will find them attractive, and therefore the price will rise do to the demand on the product!

Tenergy rubbers are SOOO expensive, and it will cost you some serious money.

How often do you change? I personally change every 1,5-2 months :-)

PhilipRJ
06-05-2013, 06:04 PM
Yes, that is a better way to express it..

I only change every 4. Month. I use my racket 4-5 days a week, 3-2 days as a player and 2 days as a coach. It does not bother me that the rubbers are a bit use. :)

MDanielCRO
06-05-2013, 07:21 PM
I concur Sir.
The only pro using an OFF+ blade in my knowledge is Schlager..

Unless one got a robot-like consistency like Schlagi, an OFF+ blade would be too much imho.
I would rather stick to an ALL+ blade at max.

Primorac and Andrej Gacina use Primorac Carbon blade rated off+, and many other players use that blade :)

TableTennisDK
06-05-2013, 07:46 PM
Yes, that is a better way to express it..

I only change every 4. Month. I use my racket 4-5 days a week, 3-2 days as a player and 2 days as a coach. It does not bother me that the rubbers are a bit use. :)

How many ratingpoints do you have? :)

PhilipRJ
06-05-2013, 07:55 PM
How many ratingpoints do you have? :)

About 1950 :) But i haven't played that many tournaments this year - Busy with school ;)

TableTennisDK
06-05-2013, 08:21 PM
About 1950 :) But i haven't played that many tournaments this year - Busy with school ;)
Hope to play you next season :D

PhilipRJ
06-05-2013, 08:23 PM
Hope to play you next season :D

Haha.. That would be fun ;)

Wiseman
11-21-2013, 02:20 PM
Playing now with Tenergy 05, 2.1mm and of course wth D-oil. My level is so much better nowdays so i want to try Tenergy and its amazing rubber with booster. 2 months ago i chanced the rubber. More speed and more spin. After 4 weeks i must reboost the rubber becouse lack of speed, but i can play at least 2-3 months with same rubber and its still working fine.

Der_Echte
11-22-2013, 12:15 AM
I hated Rasant on a BTY composite OFF blade, but was REALLY impressed with it on an ALL+ flexy blade. I agree Rasant on a not-so bouncy OFF to OFF+ blade can be controllable. Rasant isn't a speed monster. Calibra LT is a lot faster on most strokes.