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lefty
06-30-2012, 09:17 PM
Has anyone tried the Donic Bluefire M2 yet? I would appreciate some reviews! I'd also be very interested to find out how it plays compared to Acuda (I currently use the S3)
Cheers

azlan
07-01-2012, 06:23 AM
The former World Champion in double competition, long-time National Team player and DONIC’s product expert Steffen Fetzner describes the features of the Bluefire as follows:

"One of the most characteristic features of the new Bluefire obviously is the blue sponge colour. But not only the sponge colour is very special, but also the large-pored structure of the blue sponge.

When playing (in combination with the Bloodwood 5 blade), after a few rallies you’ll immediately notice the high dynamic of this rubber sheet and the pleasant and unique feeling that it creates when hitting the ball.
However, the most distinguishing feature of the Bluefire you can clearly recognize and feel at topspin shots. Above all the Bluefire is unbelievably fast with a characteristic high arc when top-spinning that enables maximum spin and increased speed. From my point of view this top sheet in combination with the new blue sponge creates a perfect symbiosis for a very dynamic and spinny rubber sheet with an increased catapult effect and at the same time with a very high arc.
This means perfectly suitable for top spin players who play either close to the table or from half-distance."

taken from http://www.tabletennis-sportsmadison.com

lefty
07-01-2012, 09:03 AM
Cheers Azlan, I've actually read that before! I wondered if anyone on here has tried it. Fetzner is a Donic player so I always take that sort of thing with a pinch of salt! He's not going to say its rubbish, when he's paid by them!

azlan
07-01-2012, 09:17 AM
Yeah, it's true actually. But I am quite surprise they produce in red too.

azlan
07-01-2012, 09:28 AM
Here's a video of it with Rosewood XO. The guy in black uses the red Bluefire and black Tibhar 5Q.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag28Pz8hyf4

You can also go to http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=48953&title=donic-bluefire-reviews to read some reviews.

lefty
07-01-2012, 03:43 PM
Thanks I'll check those out.

YosuaYosan
07-02-2012, 02:03 AM
The sponge looks like the ones used for washing dishes lol :P

lefty
08-09-2012, 10:35 PM
Just stuck a sheet of blue fire M2 on my forehand tonight, first impressions are very positive.

pingpongns
08-20-2012, 11:41 PM
Just stuck a sheet of blue fire M2 on my forehand tonight, first impressions are very positive. can you post some of your thoughts on its behavior / characteristics / how it plays / reaction to incoming spin ? And how well would it fit as a Back hand rubber ?

lefty
08-21-2012, 08:17 AM
can you post some of your thoughts on its behavior / characteristics / how it plays / reaction to incoming spin ? And how well would it fit as a Back hand rubber ?

Early impressions are that it plays quite soft! Not that it's a bad thing because I like soft rubbers.

It's IMO a good flat rubber! What I mean by that is its strength is looping forwards so it's quite powerful as a result. You can loop upwards with it, so it does spin (probably about the same as my previous Acuda S3)

I've also noticed my serves aren't as bouncy (even if they were at the weekend in the sweat pit)

As for b/h I've not tried it yet because I didn't have much time before the Liverpool GP but I think it would be good, due to the way it's good flat! So it should be good for punches etc. I'll give it a try this week & let you know.

I didn't notice it being any better or worse than the Acuda for incoming spin! My blocking is fine with it, but if you want the rubber to be easy to block with, pimples or anti is the way to go!

Hope that helps, if you get some let me know how you find it.

Atwood
12-20-2012, 02:48 AM
Hey Azlan, I have experience with the both the M1 and M2. Both get fantastic amounts of spin and power like has been said already but unless you love softer rubbers I would opt for the M1. However, that is based on my forehand having more pop with M1. M2 actually seems to be better on my backhand side so this may be what you are looking for. To cover questions I don't have any problem slicing with the rubber on my backhand as well as flicks and loops. I do not shy away from attacking with my backhand and I have been nothing but happy with the Bluefire series on either wing.

greenhousejake
12-20-2012, 01:17 PM
i have tried BF M2 on my primorac and it is a spin loop machine i would recommend it over any tenergy any day!

T!Christian
12-20-2012, 02:31 PM
As greenhousejake stated, i would also recommend bluefire (in my case m3) over any tenergy!

ttdotcom
01-25-2013, 03:40 AM
its not as good as baracuda

ttunreal
01-25-2013, 07:51 AM
Has anyone tried the Donic Bluefire M2 yet? I would appreciate some reviews! I'd also be very interested to find out how it plays compared to Acuda (I currently use the S3)
Cheers

A guy in a video said (I'll link the video below) that M2 is similar to Tenergy (but I think that depends on your setup and also your own technique and preference) but here's the video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhh7Fp9KK2U

TTCampsHungary
01-25-2013, 11:47 AM
i would definately reccomend bluefire! it is donics version closest to tenergy with lots of spin!

Tinykin
01-27-2013, 02:49 PM
Low level player's impression.
M2 is a high quality rubber that I think is well suited to mortal players. I know that most players like to call themselves aggressive loopers. But let's face the truth, most times they are pushing, making hurried half-strokes at topspin or tentative blocks. M2 is good at all those plus making the big loop-drives when we find ourselves in that elusive position during a rally. It is particularly good at opening backhand flicks/smacks against backspin or floated serves.
It also seems to go very well with Maze type blades.
And most importantly, it is available at tabletenniskingdom at less than half the price of Tenergy.
Donic has at last found a rubber that is not like Tenergy but is a very credible and competent alternative. I would not be surprised if it outsells Tenergy among the non-pros.

T!Christian
01-27-2013, 05:45 PM
the blue colour is still just awesome :D
that alone would be a reason to play with it :P

Bishop Rasta 27
01-28-2013, 07:05 AM
what's the difference between the versions M1, M2, M3..which has softer or harder sponge?

YosuaYosan
01-28-2013, 06:24 PM
Bluefire M2 is said by Coach Ben (PingCoach) to be the best substitute for Tenergy 05:
http://www.experttabletennis.com/tenergy-05-alternatives-the-best-of-the-rest/

Tinykin
02-03-2013, 11:50 PM
It' a substitute in that it is a viable option. The stroke mechanism is subtly different to playing with Tenergy. It's closer to a mildy speed-glued Sriver.

Chriz87
06-07-2013, 01:42 PM
I have tested the Bluefire M1 now for a month. I'm two minded. Coming from the Acuda S1 the M1 is even better when it comes to shooting topspin against topspin in half distance and aggressive blocking. however i got two rly big issues. at first the black rubber got way more grip and feels different than the red one, so the quality difference of the rubbers seem to vary a lot. the second issue is the topspin against long hard underspin. because of the rly short contact time and the low take-off point of the ball release(German: "Absprungwinkel") my topspins often go into the net when my position isn't perfect. the amount of topspin on my red side is rly awful and is rly easy to block. on the backhand however with the black rubber and enough wrist usage the m1 is a weapon with a lot of spin. for me the quality issues and the rly low flexibility in the opening are the reason the change my rubber again, but players with high amount of training and a bit luick =D will get what they want.

Gauravdimri
06-07-2013, 01:57 PM
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Bear1960
06-07-2013, 02:40 PM
I have tested the Bluefire M1 now for a month. I'm two minded. Coming from the Acuda S1 the M1 is even better when it comes to shooting topspin against topspin in half distance and aggressive blocking. however i got two rly big issues. at first the black rubber got way more grip and feels different than the red one, so the quality difference of the rubbers seem to vary a lot. the second issue is the topspin against long hard underspin. because of the rly short contact time and the low take-off point of the ball release(German: "Absprungwinkel") my topspins often go into the net when my position isn't perfect. the amount of topspin on my red side is rly awful and is rly easy to block. on the backhand however with the black rubber and enough wrist usage the m1 is a weapon with a lot of spin. for me the quality issues and the rly low flexibility in the opening are the reason the change my rubber again, but players with high amount of training and a bit luick =D will get what they want.

Hi Criz87, the bluefire m1 works very good if you use a hard blade. probably my blade is more fast then off++ (is handmade by a guy living in Genua (I)). bluefire works well in this conditions. i agree with you about the ammount of spin between the red and black rubber, but on the other side the red is a little more faster and the angle (Absprungwinkel) is closer against black. how thick are your rubbers? i'm playing with 2,0mm and it's enough.

Alborz
06-07-2013, 03:16 PM
BF M2 is really similar to T05 and even better . but i prefer M1 because it's extremely fast .

Chriz87
06-07-2013, 03:21 PM
Hi Criz87, the bluefire m1 works very good if you use a hard blade. probably my blade is more fast then off++ (is handmade by a guy living in Genua (I)). bluefire works well in this conditions. i agree with you about the ammount of spin between the red and black rubber, but on the other side the red is a little more faster and the angle (Absprungwinkel) is closer against black. how thick are your rubbers? i'm playing with 2,0mm and it's enough.

Hey Bear1960,
i'm playing the m1 on both sides with 2,0mm. my blade is the andro blax off. it got a balsa core but with carbon quads. in which league do you play? im playing landesliga next season with a 1638ttr in germany. it may suit other playstyles but short contact time annd the quality differences made me struggle.

Chriz87
06-07-2013, 03:27 PM
#cantpostlinksbecouseofno5posts...experttabletennis.com/tenergy-05-alternatives-the-best-of-the-rest/

interesting comparison to t05 since the butterfly hype is ongoing =D

Bear1960
06-08-2013, 07:19 AM
Hey Bear1960,
i'm playing the m1 on both sides with 2,0mm. my blade is the andro blax off. it got a balsa core but with carbon quads. in which league do you play? im playing landesliga next season with a 1638ttr in germany. it may suit other playstyles but short contact time annd the quality differences made me struggle.

i'm not friend of balsa blades because of the relationship weight-speed-feeling. i'm using 90g blade, with carbon, 7 ply. to your question: i played this year in C2 (6th highest liga), but i played since 2 years ago in B2( 4th highest liga in Italy). my club is named asd tt gasp moncalieri, near Turin. where are you playing? back to the blade. i used before my actual home-made-blade the Primorac Carbon off+. BF works well on this blade: very grippy, fast, topspin not so much curly (more straight). to more the blade is hard (and massive) to mor BF works well! try, and don't stop if the ball flyes over the table, just close the blade (and eyes) and push the stroke. you will see how much potential BF have inside! let me know!!:)

rhonis
06-10-2013, 07:20 AM
Yes i received my new bluefire m1 2.0 m black. I cannot wait to train tonight. I am not sure how it plays, but my expectations are very high. After playing (a few times) I will post my little review.

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pong4lyfe
06-11-2013, 02:24 AM
Is M3 similar to tenergy 05fx? getting a sheet soon and can't wait to try it!

xVill
12-15-2013, 12:19 PM
Can anyone tell me if Donic Bluefire is relatively fast? Ive used tenergy all the hexer series from Andro and Rasant and Rasant is probably the best rubber I have ever used. Also what is the spin like with Bluefire?

jedimasterplk
12-15-2013, 03:00 PM
Disagree with the view that Bluefire struggles with lifting heavy backspin. I use the Bluefire M1 (max,black) on my fh, and if anything, the heavier the underspin, the juicier and more grip (and intensity) the Bluefire produces on the loop/topspin. It lifts backspin like its simply not there. Of course, its a matter of technique and playing level.

Bluefire is actually faster than T64, much much more 'punch' - but with the same or even more, control. The spin it produces is immense - more than tenergy, without a shadow of a doubt.

Burns
12-15-2013, 08:08 PM
I have a BlueFire M2 on my back hand, it was softer than the rubbers that I had previously so it took a bit getting used to. One thing about the rubber that I noticed was that it was very hard to cut when I was putting it on my blade, I messed up on a few parts.

The top sheet has no tackiness so much of the spin comes from the springiness in the sponge. There just so happens to be a lot of springiness in the sponge which makes it very spiny. Good for serves, and backhand looping.

What I really like it for is the blocking. Id much rather prefer to block with my M2 than my TG3

DDF2
03-21-2014, 02:02 AM
I've been playing the Baracuda on my forehand for a while so I'm used to the long dwell time and slightly different mechanics of the strokes. My question to anyone who played baracuda and M1 would be if the M1 has a more direct feeling to it than the Baracuda or if the dwelling time is similar.
Since I'm currently looking for a slightly faster and a little more direct feeling rubber my interest on this is very big. :D

exort04
03-21-2014, 05:14 PM
http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?7718-Donic-Bluefire-M1-Rubber-Review&highlight=Bluefire+review


Bluefire Review