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Jack.mmm
08-27-2012, 10:54 PM
Hello everyone

Im making this thread so people can discuss boosting or ways of making your rubber or game better, also discuss what booster is best on what rubber
it would be good if reviews of boosters can be posted on this thread e.g how the booster changes the visual characteristics of the rubber and how the booster changes the playing characteristics of the rubber , any good boosters any bad boosters , any rubbers that react well to boosting/tuning and any rubbers that don't



Thank you
amd I hope many people will use this thread

sebas-aguirre
08-27-2012, 11:17 PM
imo boost only if you play players who boost.
otherwise it's stupid.
it's like running a bicycle race with a motorized bike.
you never get to know how good you really are since you always have an advantage.

Mr. RicharD
08-28-2012, 12:37 AM
Boosting is very normal at the higher levels of play. Everyone thinks that it is supposed to give so much extra speed and extra spin, but that is only a half truth. When you are first starting out playing the best rubbers for you to use are softer ones. They provide the most spin and most control when starting out. Later when technique and strength are developed the faster harder rubbers are used and they typically provide much spin as well, but little control. This is because they rebound quicker due to their hardness. Boosting provides these hard rubbers with a small margin of speed, but most importantly it provides much more control because the harder rubbers become much more soft so that one is able to feel the ball much more thus adding more dwell time and spin.

If you don't like to boost don't, if you prefer to boost then boost, but the most important thing to remember is that you should be boosting only at the higher levels because otherwise your lack of skill and technique diminishes. It is very important to learn spin and strokes otherwise the boosting will only make you peak sooner. If you have solid basics and are training/competing a lot then boosting may help you to become more consistent. If you are simply playing at the club for fun and not focusing on competition then really it is up to your personal preference. You can choose to boost and lower your skill peak or you can work harder and gain those basics so that your will peak at a higher level.

I don't understand why people complain about boosting and such because it does not add such a huge difference that one cannot beat players. I've beaten players who boosted when I was not boosting and now that I do boost players have beaten me even though they do not boost. It is not a matter of it making you better, but rather providing you with much more control and consistency. To compare it to a motorized bike in a bike race is inaccurate. It would be more truly referred to as a lighter bike or carbon fiber bike that is more aero dynamic than the average bike or has an extra set of gears providing more options when biking up and down hill. But if you are not in condition to be biking up and down hill these extra gear options won't do you any good.

decoy
08-28-2012, 01:24 AM
i agree, with Rich . i boost but not to gain any extra speed or spin the rubber already has that. i do it to give me the a better feeling and jut the way the ball reacts when hit witha boosted rubber.

sebas-aguirre
08-28-2012, 01:48 AM
Boosting is very normal at the higher levels of play. Everyone thinks that it is supposed to give so much extra speed and extra spin, but that is only a half truth. When you are first starting out playing the best rubbers for you to use are softer ones. They provide the most spin and most control when starting out. Later when technique and strength are developed the faster harder rubbers are used and they typically provide much spin as well, but little control. This is because they rebound quicker due to their hardness. Boosting provides these hard rubbers with a small margin of speed, but most importantly it provides much more control because the harder rubbers become much more soft so that one is able to feel the ball much more thus adding more dwell time and spin.

If you don't like to boost don't, if you prefer to boost then boost, but the most important thing to remember is that you should be boosting only at the higher levels because otherwise your lack of skill and technique diminishes. It is very important to learn spin and strokes otherwise the boosting will only make you peak sooner. If you have solid basics and are training/competing a lot then boosting may help you to become more consistent. If you are simply playing at the club for fun and not focusing on competition then really it is up to your personal preference. You can choose to boost and lower your skill peak or you can work harder and gain those basics so that your will peak at a higher level.

I don't understand why people complain about boosting and such because it does not add such a huge difference that one cannot beat players. I've beaten players who boosted when I was not boosting and now that I do boost players have beaten me even though they do not boost. It is not a matter of it making you better, but rather providing you with much more control and consistency. To compare it to a motorized bike in a bike race is inaccurate. It would be more truly referred to as a lighter bike or carbon fiber bike that is more aero dynamic than the average bike or has an extra set of gears providing more options when biking up and down hill. But if you are not in condition to be biking up and down hill these extra gear options won't do you any good.

it's not so much the speed or spin.
it's the sweet spot.
with a regular rubber you have to hit the ball just the right way or the shot is bad.
with a boosted rubber there is so much tension and explosion in that sponge that the result is a good shot most of the times.

fongchengloy
08-28-2012, 05:23 AM
Go and boost all your rubbers before ITTF impose a ban soon.

sebas-aguirre
08-28-2012, 06:51 AM
don't boost!!!!!
unless you want a fake sense of superiority

Der_Echte
08-28-2012, 07:21 AM
I boost my game through 3x a week lessons. I have tried boosting some discarded rubbers to slap them on 4th or 5th bat backups at work just to see what the buzz is all about. Done right, boosting can take a mediocre old rubber and make it more seviceable than a new sheet of Tenergy.

Boosting could be the price performance equalizer, but ITTF and Co will not let their backdoor income stream slip away.

Der_Echte
08-28-2012, 07:36 AM
Then we could also get the arguement...

"Is it ethical or right to boost?"

The "Factory" can boost and use a gazillion nasty VOCs in the process of manufactuering a rubber and tune the daylights out of the sponge. Since this was allowed by ITTF, we see many new rubbers costing a LOT of money.

The user is prohibited from boosting or speed gluing as that is using additives. ITTF president specifically mentions boosting and speed gluing by users as illegal. many individuals would rather take a $5-$10 sheet of Dawei rubber like XP 2008, tune the crap outta it, then slap it on their blade to get a few weeks of the same performance expensive rubbers provide.

Some users never go to sanctioned tourneys and tune all night long with a good conscience. Some users do participate sanctioned tourneys and could give a crap about ITTF rules. Detection of many boosting substances is very difficult to detect, even with the advanced equipment that costs an arm and a leg. Some users feel they are wrong to tune or boost, but continue to do it and actively seek to go undetected. Some users go to their country's sanctioned amature tourneys and there is absolutely zero racket control, or control over illegal serves for that matter.

Where do all of you stand on this matter?

I do not boost as I get a few good rubbers every month and a nice discount on any additional ones I want. These rubbers do not need tuning, at least for the first 4-5 weeks, and that is pretty much the end of their usefulness when you hit 4 hours daily. I do not feel disadvantaged by anyone boosting, I feel more disadvantaged by illegal servers who never get called by the scorekeepers here. I could care less if Joe Average boosts or if the entire WR 100 and above boost. Although I strongly suspect the ITTF and their sanctioning company and backdoor friendship wink/knod deals keep a lot of people in big money they otherwise would have had to earn the old-fashioned way, I can only suspect and be grumpy.

YosuaYosan
08-28-2012, 02:08 PM
I don't boost.

Mauno100
08-28-2012, 05:46 PM
I don't boost either.

PolishTT
03-17-2013, 03:25 PM
When i was booting my T05 i played my best season in the league :D But i founda rubber where i don't have to do it because i can't buy evry 2-3 month a rubber for 56€... That is really to much... But in the post i did, i will try the dhs pf4 and if i won't boost it, i think it will be unplayable :D

Alborz
03-17-2013, 04:13 PM
i don't boost either.

Pongfinity
03-17-2013, 05:46 PM
Me neither.

flash
03-17-2013, 06:31 PM
I just started boosting Hurricane 3 and TG 3 and it makes them playable , and it's a lot cheaper than trying all different Tensor rubbers coming out of Germany. And those rubbers from the Tensor factories are using a booster, so I don't understand when people complain about boosters.

jmillsy2
03-17-2013, 06:51 PM
i dont boost...lol i never even used speed glue, i wasnt good enough to whilst it was still legal..i wouldnt consider using it though. boosting is also out of the question in my view.

revulucao
03-17-2013, 06:52 PM
i have never used booster but i want to try. maybe it is unfair but if the best team of the world use it i think that everybody can use

phillypong
03-17-2013, 07:55 PM
i only boost to revive an otherwise worn out rubber, you can use WD40 or paraffine oil

do a search on "this info will save you a lot of money" and you will find the posts on this subject

Matt Hetherington
03-18-2013, 07:33 PM
Don't boost, never have, never will be bothered to. I don't need booster, I got used to water based glue after speed glue went and my game is fine.

dici
03-19-2013, 07:43 AM
Tried with all those mythical lamp oil baby oil etc. Then I found that I don't need those. The shot I can land I know it can land, the one I can't land I know it won't land even with boost.

UpSideDownCarl
03-19-2013, 11:29 AM
When I used Hurricane for my forehand, I boosted it, because it is way better when you boost it and get the sponge softer. It is not much faster or spinnier, it is softer and has more control and you can let the ball sink in more.

Part of the reason I switched from Hurricane 3 NEO is that I was wearing dead spots in the tackiness where I contact the ball, in about 3 weeks. I would have a circular spot right where I contact the ball with my forehand that was slick and had no grip. It happened with the commercial version, with the provincial version and with the national version. So I decided I wanted to use a rubber I could just glue on with water based glue and forget about.

Now that I am using Xiom Omega IV Pro on my forehand and Omega IV Europe on my backhand, I have no need or reason to boost. It is nice not to have to mess with chemicals. Much less of a bother.

But there is nothing wrong with boosting for the people who do it. The ITTF rules are a little lame.

revulucao
03-26-2013, 01:13 AM
i have read some comments that say that H3 neo has a very good durability with booster...

Kenta Cipriano
07-04-2013, 05:15 AM
Boosting TG2neo 1st time,can say if it will get good or bad...
I will let my experience here later.

EricTian
07-04-2013, 07:11 AM
There are plenty of people that boost, and it really does work some magic.
However, much like other people's comments, it really isn't doing you many favours if you're an advancing player.
The false sense of superiority can be a bit blinding at times, just like being drunk.
Really, I think it's only appropriate at international level competitions and ONLY for your competition bat if you have one. If not, I do not recommend using it.

And no, I don't boost :)

Olio
07-04-2013, 08:29 AM
I think boosting can have advantages at internediate level.

1) boosting Euro / Jap tensors is only for top players. A 2.1 Tenergy is plenty fast enough for most advanced players.
2) boosting old style rubbers (MarkV / Sriver style) is a good (disregarding ethical aspects) way to get cheap rubbers play like more expenseive rubbers.
3) boosting chinese rubbers (H3 and the likes) give you a rubber that is nowhere near as fast as a 2.1 T64, yes useable to play for an attacker that cannot / does not practice very much.

decoy
07-04-2013, 12:05 PM
boost but only my Fh rubber( skyline3 ) i find tensors even the likes of xiom plenty fast.

if people have problems with boosting. then i ask you to please tear and destroy your rubber sheets that contain the tensor/esn/glue effect rubber ( tenergy,bluefire, evo, xiom etc). and never buy another sheet again. if you dont want to do that and have a problem with others boosting then any future comment/point you try to get across is invalid.

Olio
07-04-2013, 12:56 PM
Decoy (shouldn't it be Decoi?), that's harshly put, but I share your view. Manufacturers can do it and sell it (at a premium), but we can't... not really customer-friendly.

decoy
07-04-2013, 04:08 PM
Decoy (shouldn't it be Decoi?), that's harshly put, but I share your view. Manufacturers can do it and sell it (at a premium), but we can't... not really customer-friendly.


same person :).

yeah its harsh but really its the reality without the ban on SG/boosters you wouldn't have half as much tenergy and the likes floating about.
I personally dont see any advantages gained for those that claim that it is cheating.

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things like illegal and i mean serious basement TT like serving i can agree with but not borderline .. XX serve and some others that were mentioned recently.
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