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kjanko
06-09-2013, 01:04 AM
http://uploadfile.pingpang.info/2011-6/2011621364361769.jpg

I noticed most of the chinese penhold players leave a gap on their forehand like on the pictore above. Can anyone tell me why they do this & what are the advantages&disadvantages of leavling some space between the handle and the rubber?

HLDang
06-09-2013, 01:17 AM
better grip on the racket. Harder to control the ball and such if you have to grip the racket by the rubber imo.

kjanko
06-09-2013, 04:55 PM
So It's a matter of preference?

HLDang
06-09-2013, 06:03 PM
I suppose so, traditionally, penhold rubber is cut like the picture shown above. I rarely see penhold players with rubber all the way to the handle.

TurboZ
06-10-2013, 12:36 AM
I think it has to do with the style of play. The setup by Wang Hao has the rubber much closer to the handle and only leave enough room for placing a finger. May be that suits his all RPB backhand while the bigger gap suits TPB more. I see Xu Xin change from big to small gap from time to time as if he is still figuring out what suits him best.

Is that Ma Lin's personal blade in the pic? When was it taken as it shows Tenergy on backhand.

kjanko
06-10-2013, 12:13 PM
I found the picture on Google so I've no idea whether It's his blade or not :)

kjanko
06-10-2013, 07:09 PM
How much cm should the gap be? 1-2cm?

HLDang
06-10-2013, 07:11 PM
it's up to you. that gap is all about preference.

semin
04-27-2015, 06:44 AM
http://uploadfile.pingpang.info/2011-6/2011621364361769.jpg

I noticed most of the chinese penhold players leave a gap on their forehand like on the pictore above. Can anyone tell me why they do this & what are the advantages&disadvantages of leavling some space between the handle and the rubber?

Every serious player wants to customise or tweak their own tools for the best performance. This is especially more important in penhold grip than shakehand grip.

In table tennis, technical control is as important as the ball's speed. Speed can be controlled by your swing speed, the rubber/sheet, body movement etc. On the other hand, technical control largely relies on the holding hand. For shakehand grip you mainly use your arm/wrist to control the blade's angle/speed etc. For penhold grip, on top of arm and wrist you also use fingers to "fine-tune" the techniques. This means the stability and touch of the fingers are critical.

Needless to say it is more stable and precise to control the angle of a hard wood than a soft rubber. That's one reason why usually penhold players leave a gap between the rubber and the grip (although occasionally some penhold players don't leave any gap but that's minor).

Japanese penhold grips by default have a specific gap between the grip and the space where the rubber is to be put on. Chinese penhold grips, on the other hand, don't have such gap before you put a rubber on. How wide the player wants the gap be is really a matter of personal preference. This can be troublesome when J-penhold players switch to C-penhold grip racket (like myself) because the different shape and thickness of the two types of penhold grip would result in different angle and even feeling, and therefore takes some time to figure out the most suitable gap size for themselves.

Another tweak commonly done by penhold players (I believe shakehand grip players too) is to sand/trim their rackets on the corners where their fingers touch the blade. Any new blade comes with hard, sharp corner. This hurts or discomfort the fingers, therefore it is necessary to scrape and than fine-sand the sharp edge. Again, how much they want to sand the edge is a matter of personal preference.

CpenWillie
04-27-2015, 11:28 PM
http://uploadfile.pingpang.info/2011-6/2011621364361769.jpg

I noticed most of the chinese penhold players leave a gap on their forehand like on the pictore above. Can anyone tell me why they do this & what are the advantages&disadvantages of leavling some space between the handle and the rubber?



I also leave a small gap between the rubber and the end of the handle on my forehand side. It is for comfort. It makes it easier to hold the blade and not make it really uncomfortable on your finger. But if you leave a giant gap it can make the feel and handling of the blade off. So you have to be careful, especially with the backhand it will feel very different. That is why Ma Lins is bigger than Wang Hao's. the more rubber you have covering the blade a more solid backhand(RPB) you will get. It is also nice because it can shave off some weight.

shaolinTT
04-28-2015, 04:22 AM
1.5 cm or so for me.
Advantages:
-Can feel the ball more. That's important.
-Decrease the weight of the set up a bit.
-Make the set up a little head heavy.