Backhand: Ma Long vs Zhang Jike.

zookato · Mar 19, 2011

Hello everyone,

today i just wander what is the best Backhand? Ma Long or Zhang Jike.
i bring to you times in the videos to see how is the best? those videos of last tournament the players has been played.

Ma Long

Time in the videos of the best shot of him.
00:37
00:42
01:11
01:54
02:17
02.22
02:40
03:48

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Zhang Jike

Time in the videos of the best shot of him.
01:50
03:46
04:30
06:04

Time in the videos of the best shot of him.
00:57
03:09
04:10

it's you decision (◠‿◠)

zookato · Mar 19, 2011

for me, Ma Long the best, and i training for 3 month of his backhand, and i almost finished

madamada · Mar 19, 2011

ma long has a stronger,faster forehand but i havent decided about his backhand

Bollforte94 · Mar 19, 2011

Ma Long has more power in his backhand, especially from the half-distance but zhangs is more consistent

I decided for Ma Long

all in all both backhands are amazing

DustinZ · Mar 19, 2011

I like Ma Long better for off the table but Zhang Jike is better at the short flip.

scylla24 · Mar 19, 2011

Both have amazing backhands, and have better ability to convert from a defensive position to an offensive one when they are far from the table by unleashing a powerful backhand.

But I think I am going to go against the grain and actually say I would prefer ZJK's backhand. In terms of all around utility I think ZJK's backhand is better. Ma Long away from the table probably is slightly more consistent with his power backhand, but in terms of short game and flipping, ZJK's backhand is out of this world. He is able to use it so effectively and in so many different situations, and he gets so more spin with it than Ma Long or any other player out there.

Bollforte94 · Mar 19, 2011

scylla I think you are right that Zhang's bh is better near the table , flip etc. but in my eyes this can be a disadvantage, sometimes he is with is backhand so deep in his forehandside I wonder how he can return the next ball in a good position when a chinese compatriot stroke the flip back

Well, however, he can return it somehow

RobinTT91 · Mar 19, 2011

I like Ma Long's backhand most. It's so powerful and straight.. just amazing !

scylla24 · Mar 20, 2011

BollForte94 said:
scylla I think you are right that Zhang's bh is better near the table , flip etc. but in my eyes this can be a disadvantage, sometimes he is with is backhand so deep in his forehandside I wonder how he can return the next ball in a good position when a chinese compatriot stroke the flip back
Well, however, he can return it somehow

Yeah, I have tried emulating his flip and trying to do that thing where he goes far to his forehand to use his backhand, but its so hard to do it at any consistent level. His backhand flip is so fast, and so spinny that generally the only thing his opponent can do is to block it back, so at least thus far, it hasn't been a disadvantage for him.

zookato · Mar 20, 2011

scylla24 said:
Yeah, I have tried emulating his flip and trying to do that thing where he goes far to his forehand to use his backhand, but its so hard to do it at any consistent level. His backhand flip is so fast, and so spinny that generally the only thing his opponent can do is to block it back, so at least thus far, it hasn't been a disadvantage for him.

yeah, you both right, but his flip of ZJK's need alot of training and a fresh rubber to burden well, maybe 2 hours every day to get it.
but there is some thing important, when someone play him serve to his forehand ZJK offensive his serve with backhand flip, so that need high speed to get back to right position.

chrisdarkfury · Mar 20, 2011

For me they are both powerful in backhand, but I think I go for ma long because of his style

iTT · Mar 20, 2011

Definitely Ma Long. It's more explosive and faster, opening the rallies up a lot better.

Charlie · Mar 21, 2011

Zhang Jike he takes it much earlier off the bounce and gets behind the ball earlier as well

zookato · Mar 21, 2011

i saw alot of match of them so i think...
Ma Long play 60% forehand 40% backhand
Zhang Jike play 75% forehand 25% backhand

Rantrave · Mar 22, 2011

Zhang Jike. Ma Long has a great backhand, but Zhang's is just that much better though. It's more all rounded and versatile.

ssiew968 · Mar 23, 2011

According to chinese coaches, ZJK backhand is better but MaLong forhand is very much better. LGL did say that European has the best backhand. Thus when chinese played with European, all their focus will be on their forehand vs european backhand. This is what you can see when they played against Timo.

zookato · Mar 24, 2011

ssiew968 said:
According to chinese coaches, ZJK backhand is better but MaLong forhand is very much better. LGL did say that European has the best backhand. Thus when chinese played with European, all their focus will be on their forehand vs european backhand. This is what you can see when they played against Timo.

yes, i agreed with you, coz the check-hand of them it's penhold...

scylla24 · Mar 25, 2011

what does "check-hand of them its penhold" mean?

Even if LGL says that Europeans have better backhands, I don't know if I can really agree with that. For overall purposes, I would prefer the less flashy, Chinese backhand that focuses on hitting the ball as earlier as possible in order to give the opponent less reaction time, to the more powerful backhand that a lot of Europeans have, which are used a bit farther from the table.

Bollforte94 · Mar 25, 2011

scylla24 said:
what does "check-hand of them its penhold" mean?

Even if LGL says that Europeans have better backhands, I don't know if I can really agree with that. For overall purposes, I would prefer the less flashy, Chinese backhand that focuses on hitting the ball as earlier as possible in order to give the opponent less reaction time, to the more powerful backhand that a lot of Europeans have, which are used a bit farther from the table.

LGL is wrong this time

who has a good backhand from the europeans ? only timo boll and maybe michael maze

scylla24 · Mar 26, 2011

BollForte94 said:
LGL is wrong this time who has a good backhand from the europeans ? only timo boll and maybe michael maze

Well I think maybe is talking about those powerful backhands that a lot of Europeans do even when they are pushed far off from the table. Chinese players generally play it safe and half lob it back if they are back from the table and pressured on their backhand. But a lot of European players like Kreanga, Bastian, and Mattenet just unleash giant backhands that are usually good at getting back on the table. Ma Long and Zhang Jike are just starting to get good at that.

But yeah in terms of general use, when they are closer to the table, Chinese backhands are far superior.

Backhand: Ma Long vs Zhang Jike.

Best Backhand?

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