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ddudhane
03-31-2011, 06:42 PM
How many of you have used a robot?
Share your experience with us.

Which robot did you use? How long?
Did you find it helpful?
Did you find any limitations to its usefulness?
Do you still use it?

http://www.teessport.com/table-tennis-robots-13/ttmatic-table-tennis-505b-551-171_zoom.jpg

TTOski
03-31-2011, 07:56 PM
Using a robot can be very helpful, but the absolutely best is to play with real guys!

schumi2
03-31-2011, 11:06 PM
Got one for the garden table last year 'Practice Partner' mainly for my grandson I am coaching. We went to Ping London and he had at least 5 goes on the one they had there and loved it thus the reason I got one. I had a go and while I was hitting the normal shot he changed it to spin without me knowing and from that point I wondered why I could not get the ball over until he told me - laughing of course. Well worth having one especially when the years are rolling on for me.

ngpalace
04-01-2011, 12:29 AM
I have bought a "Master Gen 5" robot 3 months ago. I think its a great method to get your strokes right. You can practice to whatever time scale and pace that you like without the hassle of finding someone who is patient enough to go along with your desire and passion for training. For me, the only disadvantage is I have to take it to the club upstairs by staircase and set it up every time that I use it. So it would be perfect if you can leave it at the same place all the time! In fact, I am thinking of selling it for around £200. If you or anyone who is interested please let me know.

cderick9
04-01-2011, 12:57 AM
currently using a newgy robopong 2050. nice way to get a workout even without someone to play with. The drills are ok especially when practiciing footwork.

kaikaz
04-01-2011, 01:38 AM
Using a robot can be very helpful, but the absolutely best is to play with real guys!

or girls :p

ddudhane
04-02-2011, 03:22 PM
Yes, TTOski, but don't you find it frustrating when you want to master a particular stroke (eg. a loop topspin against a very heavy undercut ball) & you get that kind of ball only once in 50 shots? :)

ddudhane
04-02-2011, 03:24 PM
Yes, point taken kaikaz. But good girls are harder to find than good robots!! :p

ddudhane
04-02-2011, 03:26 PM
Nothing like playing & teaching one's children or grandchildren. Your grandson seems very smart and fun loving, how old is he?
What was the model no. & capabilities of this 'Practice Partner' you have used?
Do let us know.

ddudhane
04-02-2011, 03:31 PM
I agree with you totally, ngpalace. Finding the right practice partner of a level suitable to your own is very difficult. And if you do, his schedule doesn't match with your own!

Too bad you have to carry it around, it would be great if you had your own table or at your friend's place.

I am in India, so no question of picking up any robot without proper local service support. A friend of mine bought a Newgy at his brother's home in Canada & brought it all the way to Bombay. It stopped working the very first day & its lying useless since then!!!

ddudhane
04-02-2011, 03:33 PM
Hey, cderick9. That's the same model my friend here in Bombay, India got from Canada & it stopped working the very first day.

How long have you been using it? Any problems?
Did it come with a warranty enforceable in your city? BTW, where do you play, which city and country?

YosuaYosan
04-14-2011, 05:24 PM
too bad i havent tried one.
but it seems fun to train with it, and it could develop your skill well.

d3m0n14k
04-15-2011, 02:49 PM
I've got a table and robot (robopong 2040) setup in my garage. Its great for grooving shots and some drills etc. I find that if I use it too much however, when I play against people I get lazy and lose all the other things you need like anticipation and reading a players intentions through their weight placement etc.

schumi2
04-15-2011, 04:12 PM
Nothing like playing & teaching one's children or grandchildren. Your grandson seems very smart and fun loving, how old is he?
What was the model no. & capabilities of this 'Practice Partner' you have used?
Do let us know.
My grandson might be smart but he is not committed enough. He has all the shots but only goes for coaching once a week and this is not a serious session. The night that he should be going for serious coaching he has footy training which takes priority much to my frustration although he is good at that as well. If he does not change his approach to the game during the summer I will have to re-think about continuing with him. He is 13 and has been playing just 2 years. I should also like to add its cost me quite a bit on money which would not be too bad if he was more keener. The robot I got was from Tees Sport last year at a special price of £329.00 which included a net and is great fun using it. I think the right price was £399.00 and on the box it says Practice Partner 20 which I presume is the model number.

ixchoo
04-16-2011, 06:58 AM
i used newgy robo-pong 1040 a few sessions at our club, it is useful if you are concentrating on your strokes.

joebulatao
04-16-2011, 07:24 PM
Yes, I use a robot and it improved my strokes a lot. Practice with a human means picking up the ball each time you miss the ball. And your partner misses too so it doubles the number of times you go chase and pick up the ball. Play with robot improves your game fast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXO33L2MqNU&feature=youtu.be

schumi2
04-16-2011, 10:17 PM
If you get a robot, make sure you get a net to go at the end you are hitting the ball to. I do 100 balls at a time so I would not fancy picking all these up although some do go astray but this can not be helped but once you get used to it, not many do miss the net.

Matt Hetherington
04-17-2011, 02:55 PM
I used a robot briefly as a young junior and have access to one now, however I prefer multiball fed by person personally as it gives variation and keeps you on your toes.

scylla24
04-18-2011, 12:32 AM
I was at a Chinese table tennis training center/club, and the teachers actually said that it wasn't that good to train using the robot. At least the one that they had at the club shot balls too fast, and therefore for all but the top players, it made it so fast that it ruined your form and actually was a detriment to training.

jyechen
04-18-2011, 05:41 AM
Hmm, many coaches will and players will say robots aren't good or that they've never trained on one, ever. I'd say yeah, robots probably aren't nearly as good practice partners as real good quality practice buddies or coaches, but hey, sometimes they're all you got. :P A robot is surely better than nothing, as long as you know how to use... and it's programmable... and not what the guy above said.

YosuaYosan
04-18-2011, 12:48 PM
I was at a Chinese table tennis training center/club, and the teachers actually said that it wasn't that good to train using the robot. At least the one that they had at the club shot balls too fast, and therefore for all but the top players, it made it so fast that it ruined your form and actually was a detriment to training.

slow it down then..

scylla24
04-18-2011, 03:42 PM
Hmm, many coaches will and players will say robots aren't good or that they've never trained on one, ever. I'd say yeah, robots probably aren't nearly as good practice partners as real good quality practice buddies or coaches, but hey, sometimes they're all you got. :P A robot is surely better than nothing, as long as you know how to use... and it's programmable... and not what the guy above said.

I mean I did specify that it was only for the particular robot that they had at the club. The good robots are programmable, yes, but those tend to be pretty expensive, and out of the price range of your normal play for fun player.

Mushrooms
04-18-2011, 04:34 PM
Yup, I used my club advisor bought a robot for my school table tennis club for 800 dollars. I used it a couple of times, and they can get tiring. However I think that robots are a great way to train to become faster, and to perfect your strokes

ddudhane
04-18-2011, 07:20 PM
Thanks for the info on the robot, schumi2.
re your grandson, i think you should not show your frustration as that will only push him away from tt. At 13, he is just starting to express himself as a person. Maybe you could lose to him sometime to hook his interest! :)
DD

ddudhane
04-18-2011, 07:26 PM
Hi d3mOn14k,
I believe the 2050 has got a programming option of random, which makes it more like playing a human as far as anticipation is concerned. I agree that reading the players intentions will not be possible with a robot. Also, you won't be able to work on specific combination of your own strokes strategies.
Regards
DD

ddudhane
04-18-2011, 07:27 PM
Hope that you will get one some time. Meanwhile, hope you get lots of good practice partners instead. Anyway, a good practice partner is better than a robot! :)

ddudhane
04-18-2011, 07:28 PM
The 1050 and 2050 seem to have a random option in the programming, which makes it more interesting and useful.

ddudhane
04-18-2011, 07:30 PM
Hey joe, the picking up helps in your fitness! And picking up your partners balls means doubling your fitness! :)
Regards
DD

ddudhane
04-18-2011, 07:32 PM
Hi Pom
Getting a person to feed you multiball needs either a very good friend with lots of time to spare for you or a lot of expense by way of fees!

ddudhane
04-18-2011, 07:33 PM
yes, you can slow it down and also change the spin.

ddudhane
04-18-2011, 07:34 PM
Cheaper than coaching fees over the long run!

ddudhane
04-18-2011, 07:36 PM
wow. 800 dollars - that's a bit steep. it must be absolutely top of the line.

jyechen
04-18-2011, 09:36 PM
I mean I did specify that it was only for the particular robot that they had at the club. The good robots are programmable, yes, but those tend to be pretty expensive, and out of the price range of your normal play for fun player.

No no no, I didn't mean to say you didn't know what to do. I meant unless they only had access to a ****ty robot like the one you described. :D:D:D Didn't mean to insult you, just the robot. ;)

scylla24
04-19-2011, 04:31 AM
Hey,

Where in the US do you play at? I watched the videos you put up, and it looked like you were pretty good, and the players you played seemed pretty good also.

I have been trying to start a club at my college that actually travels around the area playing other schools.

jyechen
04-19-2011, 06:59 AM
@scylla24: Long as you promise not to stalk me, ;), this tournament was in Austin, TX. Most of the players are from Austin, Houston, Dallas Forth Worth, San Antonio, and Corpus Christi... basically all around Texas.

I also play for UT Austin, our womens team made 5th in the nation this year. Got upset by Western Ontario. > .>

Also! A suggestion, next time you ask me a question, post it in that thread so my thread can get *bump*ed. :D:D And I'll be more likely to see it. o.O

How bout you? Where you at, and what college you thinking of starting that club up at? Feel free to answer me in my thread. ;)

http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?775-HD-Videos-of-me-(JyeChen)-at-a-USATT-Tournament

Also, dunno if you saw this one, but this thread had the matches of the "really good, keyword: local" players:

http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?762-Austin-TT-Winter-Open-2011

schumi2
04-19-2011, 10:05 AM
I was at a Chinese table tennis training center/club, and the teachers actually said that it wasn't that good to train using the robot. At least the one that they had at the club shot balls too fast, and therefore for all but the top players, it made it so fast that it ruined your form and actually was a detriment to training.
I am surprised at this as most robots you can change the speed, direction and have very good spin so to me it sounds as if wherever this was, they gave out the wrong information or whatever. I therefore completely agree with what 'jyechen' says.

YosuaYosan
04-20-2011, 06:09 AM
Thus, I shall conclude that robot aren't the best training partner :D

jyechen
04-21-2011, 03:51 PM
Thus, I shall conclude that robot aren't the best training partner :D

That would definitely be the gist of all these posts. XD

YosuaYosan
04-21-2011, 04:01 PM
That would definitely be the gist of all these posts. XD

Yep, a bit altered from the real question of this thread tho..
I haven't got the chance to train with a robot. So my conclusion is biased by this thread's posts :D

ddudhane
04-23-2011, 05:15 PM
Jey & Yosua,

No doubt of that. Just as i have no doubt that someone like say, Angelina or Cameron, would be the perfect partner. But, in the absence of such practice partners, one has to make do with a robot!!! :)