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Giangt
01-21-2014, 03:43 PM
The official TableTennisDaily discussion where we post and talk about Xu Xin's equipment. Any changes he has made or any pictures you find, post into here to discuss!

Blade: Stiga Intensity V NCT
FH: TG2 Skyline
BH: Hurricane 3 custom sponge

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/sports/images/attachement/jpg/site1/20130516/002564bc674512fe83df09.jpg

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q75/s720x720/1375206_547154892021070_1872803070_n.jpg

Any rare pictures or details about Xu Xin's equipment post below. I will update this first post with new pics and information when we have some.

Martin Dorrego
01-22-2014, 12:51 AM
The blade name is Intensity NCT not Intensity Nct V, Fan Zhendong blade is infinity vps v

In this picture (China Team meet TTdaily) Xu Xin use TG2 Skyline, you are sure that he use Skyline TG3 now?, sorry for my poor english.

http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5055&d=1385546287

Martin Dorrego
01-22-2014, 02:03 AM
Xu Xin use tenergy?, look the color of the sponge, this photo was take in the grand tour finals, He change tenergy for stiga rubber?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/827/ddi5.png

Anders
01-22-2014, 09:00 AM
Xu Xin use tenergy?, look the color of the sponge, this photo was take in the grand tour finals, He change tenergy for stiga rubber?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/827/ddi5.png

I agree, it looks very much like a Calibra rubber.. Maybe he changed? If TTD took a picture they sure should remember what backhand rubber he used, Dan could you help us out? :)

Martin Dorrego
01-22-2014, 05:14 PM
I agree, it looks very much like a Calibra rubber.. Maybe he changed? If TTD took a picture they sure should remember what backhand rubber he used, Dan could you help us out? :)

In the stiga page say that Xu Xin use a Stiga Calibra LT, but im not sure

Martin Dorrego
02-12-2014, 02:28 PM
Xu Xin New Backhand Rubber:

DHS Custom Made National Hurricane 3 (High Tension Sponge) 5509
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Alborz
02-12-2014, 02:49 PM
For the past two competitions (Grand Finals & Chinese Trials 2014 for WTTC Tokyo), do you think that Xu Xin’s back-hand is much better than before?
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It was obviously shown that his back-hand had improved a lot. Apart from his ability, do you know there is any other reason for that? Have you thought about his backhand rubber had been changed already? Yes, he has changed recently!! It was obviously shown that his back-hand had improved a lot. Apart from his ability, do you know there is any other reason for that? Have you thought about his backhand rubber had been changed already? Yes, he has changed recently!! As DHS official & his couch said that his rubber had been changed from Butterfly to DHS. It was combined with Japan sponge and DHS top-sheet. ...... more information & photos http://saletabletennis.com/sharing-all-table-tennis-information/xu-xin-new-dhs-backband-rubber/:cool:




http://saletabletennis.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/IMG_1907.jpg
I don't think he is changed his rubber to that. and this is my reason:

Intresting! But something lacks. It that link, it has been said that it is customized for Xu Xin. If it is customized for Xu Xin how they can get some of them a sell them only for 58€. DHS national Hurricanes are nearly 120$. Those rubbers seems fake to me.
Anyway, Combination of a Chinese tacky rubbers's top sheet with a fast bouncy Euro-Japan sponge will be great.

ansonlau3
02-12-2014, 03:04 PM
I don't think he is changed his rubber to that. and this is my reason:

You can have a look DHS official Weibo page. http://weibo.com/p/1006061936779174/weibo
The Xu Xin backhand rubber is said by DHS official.
For the price of that, here maybe using quite different strategies of various shops. Yes, you are right. Maybe some of shops are selling fake rubbers. I think the most important is to choose reliable shops to buy it.

Martin Dorrego
02-12-2014, 04:43 PM
http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5508&d=1392212010

massa
02-14-2014, 03:37 PM
Are there more pictures???

Butt Stallion
02-14-2014, 09:59 PM
hes definitely playing a h3 backhand, i checked the game vs. fan zhendong at grand finals, 100%. But im not sure about the shop, the color of the sponge looks more red then orange to me so im not sure…

massa
02-15-2014, 09:06 PM
Yeah, I'm not so sure about the shop either. Is the ruber being selled anywhere else?

Giangt
02-18-2014, 08:03 PM
Thank u guys! Keep em coming.

TTHopeful
02-19-2014, 11:55 AM
Has Xu Xin's backhand improved over the last few tournaments do you think? Xu Xin has been using a different backhand rubber at the recent World Tour Grand Finals and Chinese Trials 2014 for WTTC.

According to various sources Liu Guoliang has asked Xu to change his backhand rubber.

Is this some sort of tacky Chinese surface with Japanese style sponge?

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We need more pics...

Dan
02-19-2014, 11:58 AM
I agree, it looks very much like a Calibra rubber.. Maybe he changed? If TTD took a picture they sure should remember what backhand rubber he used, Dan could you help us out? :)

Aha I wish, I was really unable to look at Xu XIn's racquet. He actually always left it facing red side down. Most of the time he had his bat in his hand, was difficult. Good thinking tho! :)

Anders
02-19-2014, 12:44 PM
Aha I wish, I was really unable to look at Xu XIn's racquet. He actually always left it facing red side down. Most of the time he had his bat in his hand, was difficult. Good thinking tho! :)

I understand, maybe he ain't using STIGA after all.. Hence the rubber hiding, hehe :)

cobrado23
02-20-2014, 02:38 PM
is that true that mostly of the chinese players used HURRICANE 3 blue sponge or SKYLINE 3 blue sponge? whats the advantages compared to the european ruubers? plx advise :)

ansonlau3
06-11-2014, 01:17 PM
yes, since it provides more spin on the ball to make more difficulties for the opponent and easy to control, but it requires more physical energy !!!

agold
06-11-2014, 08:22 PM
is that true that mostly of the chinese players used HURRICANE 3 blue sponge or SKYLINE 3 blue sponge? whats the advantages compared to the european ruubers? plx advise :)

It gives more potential than Tenergy. Tenergy has all the speed there for you. But it will bottom out before Hurricane. You can hit with more spin than Tenergy, but Hurricane is harder to hit with. Hurricane has a smaller margin of error though.

Bensmithbortey
06-11-2014, 08:46 PM
I got that custom DHS Hurricane 3 sponge.

vishwaanil33
06-13-2014, 11:51 AM
i heard that their blades are specially made for them?
though stiga claims that FAN uses STIGA VPS V.. but he doesnt use that...
is it true??

Rajah*
06-15-2014, 04:45 PM
i heard that their blades are specially made for them?
though stiga claims that FAN uses STIGA VPS V.. but he doesnt use that...
is it true??
Fan signed a contract with stiga promoting infinity vps.. but he is using viscaria bty..handle outer layer of the blade is stiga vps

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tOmmyDbOY66
07-08-2014, 05:12 PM
i thought that xu xin used the stiga rosewood

fais
07-09-2014, 10:50 PM
i wonder how this hybrid rubber compares to the tin arc 3?

DJ-RoGeRs-BS
12-26-2014, 02:50 AM
Alguien puede decirme que tipo de implementación esta usando Xu Xin en estos tiempos [26-12-2014] tanto madero como gomas, especialmente sus zapatillas (creo que son mizuno) pero ideal saber que modelo son por favor, de antemano muchísimas gracias y disculpen mi ingles. Gracias

Someone can say to me that type of this implementation using Xu Xin in these times [26-12-2014] both log and rubbers, specially his Shoes (I believe that they are MIZUNO) but ideal to know what model are please, in advance many graces and sorry for my English. Thanks

Giangt
10-05-2015, 07:00 PM
Seems like Xu Xin changed his BH rubber back to Tenergy. This picture is from the recent ATTU.

https://flic.kr/p/yp8M2Z

Giangt
06-26-2016, 08:04 PM
Xu Xin back to Chinese rubber on his BH in the latest Korean open tournament.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Lv4W_BNcy3c/V3A0_mi-WvI/AAAAAAAADys/pniScfPDSl4rBjaR_mWlB-l8rzg482SFgCCo/s576/image.jpeg
Courtesy of ITTF

DJ-RoGeRs-BS
06-27-2016, 12:18 AM
SI, ESA era Tenergy de Butterfly!

DJ-RoGeRs-BS
06-27-2016, 12:19 AM
Y this goma roja que Xu Xin ha usado en el Open de Corea, que Goma Sera? Modelo y Marca?

Nicolas Alvarez
06-27-2016, 02:32 AM
It looks like hurricane 3 neo is it?

UpSideDownCarl
06-27-2016, 03:36 AM
It looks like hurricane 3 neo is it?

It probably has a softer sponge like what Ma Long is using.

Nicolas Alvarez
06-27-2016, 04:02 AM
It probably has a softer sponge like what Ma Long is using.

Yes but how soft, is it the 37 degree one? Or another rubber sponge?
I am leaning to think that it is not h3n 37 since I play with it and it's still hard, or maybe I don't know how they tune it. In my case I use kailin which only softens the sponge

Bailey Belmont
06-27-2016, 11:48 AM
awesome! Like these rockets very much!

Kelpo
06-27-2016, 04:23 PM
Dang it Xu Xin! Stahp changing rubber's so often!:p

RajaLoopah
06-28-2016, 12:26 PM
Is that the number 50 sponge? or another?

Robh
06-28-2016, 08:02 PM
I thought/heard that XX and ML had "Different" sponges dont they? As in H3N topsheet with Tenergy/other sponge

Giangt
06-28-2016, 08:28 PM
Is that the number 50 sponge? or another?
I believe that they both are using the #60 sponge. I do not know if the are using same hardness or thickness though...

TurboZ
01-06-2018, 11:05 PM
Xu Xin is getting his new toy in 2018! Looks like a new custom blade with N301 top ply and 290 style Stiga handle. Can't see clearly the carbon layer from photo but it is a surprise if he is going back to all wood. It said COMING on the shoulder. Will see if they are releasing it soon and what is it about. Something for me to look forward to in the year 2018. :rolleyes:

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XX is doing pretty well and making many fancy shots with it in the recent CTTSL matches.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZBXg4TcRTM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG9taN3Unh8

yogi_bear
01-07-2018, 02:17 AM
Wow another blade with a different handle.

Der_Echte
01-07-2018, 03:20 AM
None of the cameras zoom in on the bottom of hiz shoes ??

Igorsep
01-29-2018, 12:49 AM
Have you guys seen his latest match against Ma Long at the China Super league? He was incredible with this new blade! Anyone got news about it?


https://youtu.be/DNORDHG3Jq8

Badger
01-29-2018, 01:00 AM
That forehand at 9-10 in the last game!

thomas.pong
01-29-2018, 01:06 AM
Have you guys seen his latest match against Ma Long at the China Super league? He was incredible with this new blade! Anyone got news about it?


https://youtu.be/DNORDHG3Jq8

Great win by XX against ML!

For some info on his new blade, check TurboZ's post with pictures on this thread from 3 few weeks ago:

"Looks like a new custom blade with N301 top ply and 290 style Stiga handle. Can't see clearly the carbon layer from photo but it [would be] a surprise if he is going back to all wood"

Igorsep
01-29-2018, 01:17 AM
You think it's going commercial anytime soon? Or the closest thing would be the H301?

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thomas.pong
01-29-2018, 01:25 AM
You think it's going commercial anytime soon? Or the closest thing would be the H301?

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I don't think it's clear yet if or when it's going commercial, and if it is indeed a disguised N301, a N301 clone, or if it's even anything like a N301. He could have gone back to all wood for all we know, although sticking with carbon seems more likely like TurboZ said and given that it's presented to him side by side his previous DHS N301 carbon blade, which was already a recent switch from his longtime Stiga Infinity NCT. This is all very new but he's still using it 3 weeks later so I expect we'll have more info from China soon.

Giangt
01-29-2018, 06:35 PM
The blade he is using now seems to be an all wood blade. I remember someone posting some pictures from a training session in the CTTSL.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/cache.php?img=http%3A%2F%2Fmytabletennis.net%2Fforum%2Fuploads%2F36031%2F4e2442a7d933c8951b66789dda1373f082020038.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/cache.php?img=http%3A%2F%2Fmytabletennis.net%2Fforum%2Fuploads%2F36031%2Fstiga_new_blade_113322.jpg

Courtesy of MyTT user hanleestra

SFF_lib
01-30-2018, 08:42 AM
The blade he is using now seems to be an all wood blade. I remember someone posting some pictures from a training session in the CTTSL.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/cache.php?img=http%3A%2F%2Fmytabletennis.net%2Fforum%2Fuploads%2F36031%2F4e2442a7d933c8951b66789dda1373f082020038.jpg

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/cache.php?img=http%3A%2F%2Fmytabletennis.net%2Fforum%2Fuploads%2F36031%2Fstiga_new_blade_113322.jpg

Courtesy of MyTT user hanleestraYes I guess so too. In XX's recent games we see shorter trajectory of FH loop and significant improved control of BH. All sounds like a wooden blade. I wonder if it is a thin 7-ply.

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suds79
01-30-2018, 12:41 PM
That BH on the point at 3:19 was amazing.

He did play great. Only watched the match one but it seems as though he's hitting a higher % of his BH's in. You can tell he has been putting in the work on his biggest weakness.

G_ZHANG
02-01-2018, 01:20 PM
Latest pics

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Ilia Minkin
02-01-2018, 04:17 PM
Coming soon haha! What a nice name for a blade.

thomas.pong
02-01-2018, 06:18 PM
Coming soon haha! What a nice name for a blade.

Ha sweet! I thought that's what I had read on the blade from the previous pictures. Good exclusive reveal social media type marketing from STIGA! Haha

G_ZHANG
02-03-2018, 11:46 AM
Someone got it on hand. All wood. No carbon.
note: this is used by someone else, not xu xin. So Hurricane forehand not skyline.
But same blade.

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SFF_lib
02-03-2018, 10:29 PM
Someone got it on hand. All wood. No carbon.
note: this is used by someone else, not xu xin. So Hurricane forehand not skyline.
But same blade.

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James Livesey
02-03-2018, 11:30 PM
looks like a definite 5 ply. walnut or ebony top? hard to tell with the blue stained ply on XX's. My guess is this is a natural progression from MEO, adding thickness and a harder outer surface.

Fabian
02-04-2018, 10:51 AM
Latest pics

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this is the old topsheet without ITTF number? is this still allowed?

Konrad Bak
02-04-2018, 11:13 AM
yes. I saw Sanwei makes blades like 7 wood layers+ 6 carbon layers but ittf have information that 85% of blade should be wood. (srr for bad english)

China Federation accept everything except loosing


this is the reason why Ma Te is not playing international games.... he has illegal pips rubber and he doesnt play the same with ittf restrictions.

perham
02-04-2018, 11:32 AM
yes. I saw Sanwei makes blades like 7 wood layers+ 6 carbon layers but ittf have information that 85% of blade should be wood. (srr for bad english)

China Federation accept everything except loosing


this is the reason why Ma Te is not playing international games.... he has illegal pips rubber and he doesnt play the same with ittf restrictions.




In those blades the carbon layers are extremely thin. I think the idea is to reduce stiffness but keep the gears. The inner carbon layers won’t kick in unless you put a lot of power in it.i


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G_ZHANG
02-04-2018, 11:37 AM
In those blades the carbon layers are extremely thin. I think the idea is to reduce stiffness but keep the gears. The inner carbon layers won’t kick in unless you put a lot of power in it.i



Indeed thin.
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Lee91
02-04-2018, 12:04 PM
Some other pictures.

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G_ZHANG
02-04-2018, 12:35 PM
this is the old topsheet without ITTF number? is this still allowed?


I think so..
On LARC 2017B, you can find both the new version numbered skyline as well as the old version skyline without numbers.
https://d3mjm6zw6cr45s.cloudfront.net/2017/10/LARC_2017B.pdf
I think as long as they are on LARC, they are allowed.

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bobpuls
02-04-2018, 03:39 PM
this is the old topsheet without ITTF number? is this still allowed?
Actually this is new top sheet the one with number is older one ... i have both of them an i like this one more .
In old ittf website it cold be seen for both versions ... but in this new version it is impossible to find .

Fabian
02-04-2018, 03:42 PM
No? The new topsheet has a number, it is a must as far as I know for new rubbers.

bobpuls
02-04-2018, 04:27 PM
original on ittf was registered as second topsheet on the last page .This is way i assuming it is the newer one.
But i can be wrong about it.

yogi_bear
02-05-2018, 01:30 AM
Are those colored limba and 2nd layer spruce instead of walnut outer in the intensity??

GarbagePenholder
03-22-2018, 03:25 AM
When is this new blade going to come out?

underlaydisk
03-22-2018, 07:33 AM
Rubbers are about to jump off of the blade from boosting

RidTheKid
03-22-2018, 08:18 AM
Yes it's wonderful!


Rubbers are about to jump off of the blade from boosting

G_ZHANG
03-22-2018, 10:51 PM
New blade......

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VSDG
03-23-2018, 12:14 AM
Wow the handle color looks funky.

SFF_lib
03-23-2018, 02:15 AM
New blade......

1586315864Looks similar to Intensity NCT. I wonder what's special about this new blade.

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shinshiro
03-23-2018, 03:06 AM
They didn't even release yet the blade he was using previously (the one with black outer ply), and now there is already a new blade...

Arief Nur
03-23-2018, 03:59 AM
Yes I think it is true

yogi_bear
03-23-2018, 04:07 AM
Is that the azalea?

G_ZHANG
03-25-2018, 01:23 AM
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Konrad Bak
03-25-2018, 02:34 PM
wow I thought its nittaku but I made mistake.
new blade new me
he is real EJ

StehTischtennis
03-25-2018, 02:43 PM
Different photo from the German Open 2018:
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Source: https://www.flickr.com/photos/tushilter_tt/27121693738/

Kaiwen
03-26-2018, 04:15 PM
Different photo from the German Open 2018:
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Source: https://www.flickr.com/photos/tushilter_tt/27121693738/

and always Skyline for Xu Xin on forehand! not Hurricane ;)

yogi_bear
03-26-2018, 05:35 PM
is that Intensity with a new metal logo?

Igorsep
03-26-2018, 09:08 PM
Is Xu Xin still using H3-50 on his BH?

mwu2120
03-27-2018, 01:36 AM
I feel like they are trying out different styles of blades, possibly the older version we saw with "coming soon" on the wings were place holder designs. Could entirely be possible that these 2 blades have exact same wood structure.

Konrad Bak
03-27-2018, 02:46 AM
Coming soon was more black outer and new-new stiga is thicker.
I think new blade has more control and its slower but easier to play near the table.

yogi_bear
03-27-2018, 09:50 AM
Stiga said that the blade with black outer plies with "coming soon" mark on it is the same with the brown blade he uses now. They said Xu Xin has been testing a carbon blade but he does not want a black but a brown outer ply instead. It is a carbon blade and it is not the Intensity blade. Many thanks to Felix W. from Stiga for this info.

thomas.pong
03-27-2018, 01:40 PM
Stiga said that the blade with black outer plies with "coming soon" mark on it is the same with the brown blade he uses now. They said Xu Xin has been testing a carbon blade but he does not want a black but a brown outer ply instead. It is a carbon blade and it is not the Intensity blade. Many thanks to Felix W. from Stiga for this info.

Any info on if the blade will be released and when, and what it is called?

yogi_bear
03-27-2018, 04:47 PM
No idea yet. The ones i will be testing this may are the nostalgia and azalea blades.

Giangt
03-28-2018, 03:35 PM
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...It is a carbon blade and it is not the Intensity blade. Many thanks to Felix W. from Stiga for this info.
Hi yogi_bear. If Stiga are making the that Xu Xin used in German open it is not going to have any carbon layers.

bobpuls
03-28-2018, 03:50 PM
Hi yogi_bear. If Stiga are making the that Xu Xin used in German open it is not going to have any carbon layers.
According the photos which are here is hard to say ...maybe the carbon is underneath the brown top veneer ...

Giangt
03-28-2018, 04:03 PM
According the photos which are here is hard to say ...maybe the carbon is underneath the brown top veneer ... I could be yes. Could also thin layer at the core. Time will tell us. Just have to be patient.

yogi_bear
03-28-2018, 06:14 PM
That was a carbon blade. It was not obvious because it was next to the top layer which was black. Also, i suspect they would use textreme so the carbon layer is hard to see sometimes because it is very thin.

kikij95
04-28-2018, 07:08 PM
16245Xu xin in stiga factory. New blade "coming soon" noticed again...

yogi_bear
04-28-2018, 07:09 PM
Mind you, stiga said it is not the intensity blade. He just like it in brown.

shinshiro
04-28-2018, 11:18 PM
Man, too much mistery from Stiga...
Stiga said something about release date?

yogi_bear
04-30-2018, 03:29 AM
N, not yet. Probably this year I am hoping.

G_ZHANG
05-06-2018, 01:52 PM
Most clear structure of the new blade

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JST
05-06-2018, 02:13 PM
Most clear structure of the new blade

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Do I see all-wood no composite?

yogi_bear
05-06-2018, 03:16 PM
i could be wrong but the 3rd ply seems to be a very thin carbon layer. so this one looks like it has an inner carbon composition.

Giangt
05-06-2018, 04:46 PM
Ok, guys! Got some insider news from Stiga's Marketing responible Felix, which is a really great guy to talk with. Well I asked about the new blade that Xu Xin is using and he told me some details about it.
It is a 5+2 outer carbon blade where the outer layer is brown koto and the core is abachi. Xu Xin didn't like the colour of the dyed grey koto that the DHS 301 had. It is going to be released in the third quarter of this year. Approximately September or October this year and first in China and Japan and a few weeks later in the rest of the world. The blade should more or less be in production and it will come in a commercial and limited edition with Xu Xin's personal lens. Something to look forward to guys!

bobpuls
05-06-2018, 05:02 PM
Ok, guys! Got some insider news from Stiga's Marketing responible Felix, which is a really great guy to talk with. Well I asked about the new blade that Xu Xin is using and he told me some details about it.
It is a 5+2 outer carbon blade where the outer layer is brown koto and the core should be limba. Xu Xin didn't like the colour of the dyed grey koto that the DHS 301 had. It is going to be released in the third quarter of this year. Approximately September or October this year and first in China and Japan and a few weeks later in the rest of the world. The blade should more or less be in production and it will come in a commercial and limited edition with Xu Xin's personal lens. Something to look forward to guys!
the core can not be limba ....it will be to heavy when it is limba .... IMHO the second ply under the karbon could be limba and the core looks more like paulownia (kiri)

ViscariaIshikawa
05-06-2018, 05:41 PM
I still can't see the carbon layer. Wow that must be a really thin one.

Giangt
05-06-2018, 05:48 PM
the core can not be limba ....it will be to heavy when it is limba .... IMHO the second ply under the karbon could be limba and the core looks more like paulownia (kiri)
Could be... I also thought it sounded strange, but that was what I remembered him saying...

PiZa
05-06-2018, 06:11 PM
Stiga's metal logo looks awesome.

Giangt
05-07-2018, 09:36 PM
the core can not be limba ....it will be to heavy when it is limba .... IMHO the second ply under the karbon could be limba and the core looks more like paulownia (kiri)


Could be... I also thought it sounded strange, but that was what I remembered him saying...

I found out this evening that the core material is abachi and not Limba, so Bob you were right. I have edited my original post so that the info is right. :)

yogi_bear
05-08-2018, 05:23 PM
Abache and ayous are the same wood right?

bobpuls
05-08-2018, 06:13 PM
yes
sometimes it is also called samba
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triplochiton_scleroxylon

Jhonatan Pedroso
05-21-2018, 12:18 AM
And what are the rubbers that Xu Xin uses? Thanks in advance!

Jhonatan Pedroso
05-30-2018, 04:14 PM
Please...

kikij95
05-30-2018, 07:15 PM
Forehand : DHS skyline II blue sponge 42°
Backhand : DHS H3 orange sponge 37°

G_ZHANG
06-15-2018, 09:13 AM
This is currently priced at 1000GBP, before it's on the market commercially.
(from some national team source)

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ViscariaIshikawa
06-15-2018, 02:56 PM
Is it officially named Stiga Xu Xin? Finally a personal blade right?

thirawato
07-04-2018, 06:39 PM
Is it Nostalgic series?

yogi_bear
07-05-2018, 05:58 PM
The blade of Xu Xin is not a Nostalgic blade. It has carbon on it.

hamh
07-08-2018, 12:32 AM
The blade of Xu Xin is not a Nostalgic blade. It has carbon on it.
Not really, the new Xu Xin blade is still 5 ply all wood with the top layer as koto. The combination of the 5 layers are koto-ayous-ayous-ayous-koto

SFF_lib
07-08-2018, 01:47 AM
Not really, the new Xu Xin blade is still 5 ply all wood with the top layer as koto. The combination of the 5 layers are koto-ayous-ayous-ayous-kotoSource plz

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yogi_bear
07-08-2018, 03:04 AM
Not really, the new Xu Xin blade is still 5 ply all wood with the top layer as koto. The combination of the 5 layers are koto-ayous-ayous-ayous-koto

Probably, Stiga was wrong when they gave this info to me personally and you are correct. Lol.

Suga D
07-09-2018, 12:11 PM
This is currently priced at 1000GBP, before it's on the market commercially.
(from some national team source)

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Will it really be named 'coming soon' or will the name be different?
[Emoji6]

yogi_bear
07-09-2018, 12:52 PM
Temporary name

genesisx000
07-17-2018, 04:53 PM
sarcasm? I doubt that stiga will just give out false information like that

Suga D
07-17-2018, 04:58 PM
sarcasm? I doubt that stiga will just give out false information like that

No shyte, sherlock. Good job.
You nailed this one!

genesisx000
07-17-2018, 05:07 PM
No shyte, sherlock. Good job.
You nailed this one!
lol, seriously though, whoever got that paddle seems to swear that it's all wood, guess we will see soon

hamh
07-20-2018, 01:53 PM
Sarcasm or not, these are the pictures I got from the source. It's a store that I've dealt with in China. The store owner literally say it is koto-ayous-ayous-ayous-koto.
https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i1/61315674/TB2RaPXqgKTBuNkSne1XXaJoXXa_!!61315674.jpg

https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i3/61315674/TB2MIrOypuWBuNjSszbXXcS7FXa_!!61315674.jpg
https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i4/61315674/TB2Gt0ryGmWBuNjy1XaXXXCbXXa_!!61315674.jpg

SFF_lib
07-20-2018, 08:48 PM
Wondering why XX is back to all wood blade given the fact that the ball is slower?

Passionate about TT

cfagyal
07-20-2018, 08:54 PM
Why spend 1000 GBP to buy a blade like that? I don't get it. The materials cost far less than 10 GBP, and the composition is not exactly unique or all that interesting. Pay that much for a blade just because a CNT member's name is on it?

Maq
07-20-2018, 09:15 PM
Hmm interesting that hes back to an all wood blade, but why not just go back to the Intensity then?

Giangt
07-20-2018, 09:39 PM
Ok, guys! Got some insider news from Stiga's Marketing responible Felix, which is a really great guy to talk with. Well I asked about the new blade that Xu Xin is using and he told me some details about it.
It is a 5+2 outer carbon blade where the outer layer is brown koto and the core is abachi. Xu Xin didn't like the colour of the dyed grey koto that the DHS 301 had. It is going to be released in the third quarter of this year. Approximately September or October this year and first in China and Japan and a few weeks later in the rest of the world. The blade should more or less be in production and it will come in a commercial and limited edition with Xu Xin's personal lens. Something to look forward to guys!
Based on my knowledge I still believe it’s a carbon blade as I’ve been told by Stiga.

hamh
07-20-2018, 10:08 PM
I do wish it's a carbon blade, it'll be too boring if they go back to all wood.

Let's see when it's officially released later this year.

yogi_bear
07-23-2018, 04:36 AM
It is a carbon blade. The carbon layer is too faint to see. The koto outer plies hid the carbon layer, probably textreme imho, that is why you cannot see it directly.

Kajika81
07-23-2018, 04:25 PM
I agreed with yogi, when zoom in the 1st pic posted from hamh, i can see there is a thin carbon layer after the outer koto. Cant wait to see this beauty

hamh
07-23-2018, 06:08 PM
It is a carbon blade. The carbon layer is too faint to see. The koto outer plies hid the carbon layer, probably textreme imho, that is why you cannot see it directly.

Thanks yogi.

Any update on the actual release date?

yogi_bear
07-23-2018, 06:32 PM
Not sure yet. I need to ask Felix about this. I amhoping I can get the def blades, pips and the XX blade by end of August maybe.

Halon X
07-31-2018, 10:12 AM
Stiga already posted new Xu Xin Carbon blade on Facebook (Dynasty?)

Giangt
07-31-2018, 10:45 AM
Stiga just made their official release on Social media’s of Xu Xin's new blade.
The name is Dynasty and it is a Textreme Carbon blade with outer koto as I stated earlier in this thread. Now we just have to wait for it's availability in the stores.

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Kajika81
07-31-2018, 03:15 PM
Will buy this !!

yogi_bear
07-31-2018, 04:11 PM
I think the original design was purple or violet but XX did not like the color and he wanted it brown.

thomas.pong
07-31-2018, 10:25 PM
Does anyone know if it'll also be available in shakehand?

yogi_bear
08-01-2018, 03:11 AM
Available in shakehand, penhold and st

pujoki
08-01-2018, 06:49 AM
I wonder how it will compare to the DHS 301

thomas.pong
08-01-2018, 09:39 AM
Available in shakehand, penhold and st

Thank you yogi. Even with the Xu Xin badge for FL and ST?

yogi_bear
08-01-2018, 11:18 AM
Yes i think so because they will not earn enough money if it is just penhold.

Igorsep
08-01-2018, 11:30 AM
Stiga just made their official release on Social media’s of Xu Xin's new blade.
The name is Dynasty and it is a Textreme Carbon blade with outer koto as I stated earlier in this thread. Now we just have to wait for it's availability in the stores.

17060It is probably going to be priced as expensive as the carbonado series then, right? Since it's a textreme blade...

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Jhonatan Pedroso
08-09-2018, 03:47 PM
Is there any rubber that can be compared to what xu xin uses?

SFF_lib
08-10-2018, 12:11 AM
Is there any rubber that can be compared to what xu xin uses?

Get a commercial Neo Skyline 2 41 degree hardness.

Jhonatan Pedroso
08-10-2018, 12:46 AM
Thank you

Giangt
08-20-2018, 03:48 PM
It's official now. Stiga made their announcement today with the new Dynasty blade which Xu Xin is using.

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Stiga writes:
Xu Xin is using the upcoming Dynasty Carbon blade which will be released during the fall of 2018.

Dynasty Carbon is a 5+2 (outer) carbon blade reinforced by the newly developed Swedish made and patented TeXtreme+ Technology which increases the sweet spot in comparison to all traditional carbon technologies. #madeinsweeden


Both blades are built with the same structure and characteristic (with other words, it's the same blade in terms of performance) , however the one with the blue lens is the "Xu Xin Edition" with his signature and his own lens which is designed by him and his wife, describing their love story.

So romantic and something to look forward to guys!

TurboZ
08-20-2018, 03:55 PM
This is a must have for 2018! I bet the one with XX badge will cost $100 more. :p

hamh
08-20-2018, 04:57 PM
Can't wait to restart my EJ journey again!

shinshiro
08-20-2018, 05:44 PM
This is a must have for 2018! I bet the one with XX badge will cost $100 more. :p

I would bet it will cost at least $200 more hahaha

Igorsep
08-20-2018, 05:47 PM
Really want this blade... But I bet the "cheaper" non xu xin version will be at latest 150 us dollars... :(

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xuxinpower
08-21-2018, 09:37 PM
17284

Hi, does anyone know the model of the shoes xu xin's wearing on this picture?
Thanks

pujoki
08-21-2018, 11:54 PM
17284

Hi, does anyone know the model of the shoes xu xin's wearing on this picture?
Thanks

prott has them, but they don't say the name of the shoes. It is by Li-Ning.

https://www.prott.vip/Product-Details.aspx?productcode=APPM001

Ryan Hong
09-15-2018, 10:07 PM
Wait so currently we know that he is using Stiga Dynasty Carbon, and for his forehand, he is using a National BS Hurricane or Skyline? But what is his backhand??

pujoki
09-16-2018, 03:31 AM
Wait so currently we know that he is using Stiga Dynasty Carbon, and for his forehand, he is using a National BS Hurricane or Skyline? But what is his backhand??

Hurricane 3 with #60 sponge.

yogi_bear
09-16-2018, 07:57 AM
Still need to wait for October to get mine, though i wish i could get the coming soon version also just to have it as a collector's item.

thomas.pong
09-16-2018, 12:15 PM
Still need to wait for October to get mine, though i wish i could get the coming soon version also just to have it as a collector's item.

Can't wait for it to drop in stores! Especially the XX version...

James Livesey
09-17-2018, 04:47 PM
Seems weird he's gone for carbon outer? Wasn't the DHS blade he was using inner?

yogi_bear
09-17-2018, 08:25 PM
Probably he needed mo power and speed.

Ryan Hong
09-19-2018, 10:12 PM
Do you mean 50?

GarbagePenholder
09-28-2018, 03:56 AM
It's coming

GarbagePenholder
09-28-2018, 03:57 AM
The blade will be released in 1-2 weeks. Watch out for it.

GarbagePenholder
09-28-2018, 03:57 AM
Probably 200 USD

pujoki
09-28-2018, 05:08 AM
hopefully it doesn't play like a Timo Boll ALC blade. I tried it with Hurricane 3 and it felt horrible

yogi_bear
09-28-2018, 05:25 AM
The thing with textreme is that it is thin enough that you will not feel the carbon part when you are hitting the ball.

calvincandie
09-28-2018, 07:51 PM
The blade will be released in 1-2 weeks. Watch out for it.

How do you know the release date? I see no announcement on the STIGA Facebook/Instagram page?

Giangt
09-28-2018, 08:14 PM
How do you know the release date? I see no announcement on the STIGA Facebook/Instagram page?

Yes, they announced it on their IG profile some days ago.

calvincandie
09-28-2018, 08:23 PM
Yes, they announced it on their IG profile some days ago.

Not sure it means released within two week though. Probably just give us the official release date, or like the information about the blade or something. STIGA usually informs the official release date longer in advance than two weeks. Would be awesome if it came in two week though! Will you guys go for the Dynasty one or the Xu Xin Edition? Let's hope they don't get as greedy as butterfly and wants 350-400 euros for it...

Giangt
09-28-2018, 08:54 PM
Not sure it means released within two week though. Probably just give us the official release date, or like the information about the blade or something. STIGA usually informs the official release date longer in advance than two weeks. Would be awesome if it came in two week though! Will you guys go for the Dynasty one or the Xu Xin Edition? Let's hope they don't get as greedy as butterfly and wants 350-400 euros for it...
You're right about it doesn't have to be that Stiga will release the blades in two weeks time. They like to keep the excitement going for a while. The message I got was it will be release between September and December. First in Asia and two weeks later in the rest of the world. Both blades will be released at the same time. As I mentioned in an earlier post the construction of the blades will be the same just with different handles. Collectors will definitely go for the Xu Xin limited edition and depending on the price people would go the Dynasty blade.

darucla
09-28-2018, 11:47 PM
Who is the Stiga main agent in the UK? Or are there several?

FruitLoop
09-29-2018, 10:25 AM
Thorntons

kikij95
10-19-2018, 09:23 PM
17727
STIGA shop world cup 2018. Xu Xin blade will be in stock on november or december. Price = 279,00€.

pujoki
10-19-2018, 10:25 PM
17727
STIGA shop world cup 2018. Xu Xin blade will be in stock on november or december. Price = 279,00€.

How about the Dynasty blade that is not Xu Xin's version?

yogi_bear
10-20-2018, 03:22 AM
The reason the blades are not released yet is I think they will release it in China first. I am hoping before the month ends but I am not sure of this.

Giangt
10-20-2018, 07:38 AM
The reason the blades are not released yet is I think they will release it in China first. I am hoping before the month ends but I am not sure of this.
The blades are not released yet because Stiga want to make sure everything is perfect before releasing. Having that said you are right about that the blades will be released in Asia first and two weeks after in the rest of the world.

yogi_bear
10-20-2018, 09:09 AM
I think they have already mass produced the blades considering the amount of tine before the release dates. At this rate probably they would have already shipped them by sea freight already.

Giangt
10-20-2018, 09:48 AM
Perhaps they have. I am just looking forward to the reviews of the blades and how ppl find it performing. ;-)

thomas.pong
10-20-2018, 09:48 PM
The Stiga rep at the World Cup (where this picture was taken since I saw the display and touched the 2 blades) said both versions would be released in December, the Xu Xin version will cost 279€. I can ask about the regular Dynasty price tomorrow.

kikij95
10-20-2018, 10:40 PM
Xu Xin was to be selected for the world cup and his blade was to be available at that time but it was not the case, more STIGA had a problem with production, it is for this reason that the out of the blade was delayed.

kikij95
10-20-2018, 10:41 PM
It's the same but without autograph of Xu Xin, just a different design and price.

yogi_bear
10-21-2018, 03:58 AM
How much is the vanilla version?

thomas.pong
10-23-2018, 07:23 PM
How much is the vanilla version?

239€ for the standard edition, 279€ for the Xu Xin edition.

Also, I was mistaken, they said they would both come out in December (not November like I had previously written). I could have bought one at the event but too much for me right now.

yogi_bear
10-23-2018, 07:29 PM
Wow so 40 euros difference. It is the most expensive Stiga blade as of the moment.

Igorsep
10-23-2018, 07:45 PM
That's too much... Sorry xu xin, I'm out!

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lignah
10-23-2018, 09:30 PM
Are you kidding me?
Stiga is out of their mind...
You cat get two viscarias

I would rather get N301

239€ for the standard edition, 279€ for the Xu Xin edition.

Also, I was mistaken, they said they would both come out in December (not November like I had previously written). I could have bought one at the event but too much for me right now.

FruitLoop
10-23-2018, 11:24 PM
Seems hard to justify the price point. No rare wood, special process and it's very little carbon weave?

Lzrby
10-24-2018, 01:56 PM
Perhaps that is just the price at the world cup? Maybe it will be less expensive later on

Ilia Minkin
10-24-2018, 02:02 PM
Seems hard to justify the price point. No rare wood, special process and it's very little carbon weave?

Butterfly wannabes.

thomas.pong
10-24-2018, 02:13 PM
Perhaps that is just the price at the world cup? Maybe it will be less expensive later on

No, this is retail prices they said. They weren't actually selling it there, they only had maybe 3 of each that they could sell at the end of the event for people that were really interested. I was until I heard the prices lol

Lzrby
10-24-2018, 04:29 PM
No, this is retail prices they said. They weren't actually selling it there, they only had maybe 3 of each that they could sell at the end of the event for people that were really interested. I was until I heard the prices lol

That's unfortunate... Is this Stiga's first blade named after someone? Sad if they fall into Butterfly's over-priced business strategy. If only other companies learned from Yasaka's Ma Lin Extra Offensive.

I also wish Stiga made a slower, more controllable version of the blade. Too many carbon blades without control nowadays

yoass
10-24-2018, 04:37 PM
That's unfortunate... Is this Stiga's first blade named after someone? Sad if they fall into Butterfly's over-priced business strategy. If only other companies learned from Yasaka's Ma Lin Extra Offensive.

I also wish Stiga made a slower, more controllable version of the blade. Too many carbon blades without control nowadays

No, I sort of started out with a Kjell Johanson Offensive Wood, and had a Stellan Bengtsson Offensive Wood too. Way back when the mountains were stll young.

randman
10-24-2018, 04:40 PM
I love this thread, good info

yogi_bear
10-24-2018, 07:34 PM
Carbonado 45/90 are more on control even if they are carbon blades.


That's unfortunate... Is this Stiga's first blade named after someone? Sad if they fall into Butterfly's over-priced business strategy. If only other companies learned from Yasaka's Ma Lin Extra Offensive.

I also wish Stiga made a slower, more controllable version of the blade. Too many carbon blades without control nowadays

FruitLoop
10-24-2018, 07:53 PM
Plus they will be half the price.

Lzrby
10-24-2018, 09:10 PM
Carbonado 45/90 are more on control even if they are carbon blades.

Very true. Although for some reason, the Carbonado series and Infinity VPS aren’t as popular among cpen users as the hardwood series (Rosewood, Intensity, etc). Maybe it would be different if Xu Xin started using one of the Carbonados hehe.

kikij95
11-27-2018, 06:31 PM
I got it ! 17934

usualsuspect
11-27-2018, 06:44 PM
:p I want it I want it I want it I want it...
Seriously though, I think the price will come down for the regular version after a while.

SFF_lib
11-27-2018, 06:58 PM
I got it ! 17934

Can you put up a review comparing it to some other blades?

JST
11-27-2018, 10:45 PM
Can you put up a review comparing it to some other blades?

Like gluing rubber on God's handwritten signature???? :)

usualsuspect
11-28-2018, 05:35 PM
Like gluing rubber on God's handwritten signature???? :)

Good point. I was thinking I wouldn't want to play with a blade that has Xu Xin's signature... I would put it in a hermetically sealed bank vault.

kikij95
11-28-2018, 06:34 PM
I don't play with this blade, it's signed by Xu Xin.

Montenegrin34
11-29-2018, 01:15 AM
Coming soon was more black outer and new-new stiga is thicker.
I think new blade has more control and its slower but easier to play near the table.

JST
11-29-2018, 07:19 AM
I don't play with this blade, it's signed by Xu Xin.

So where is your real XX blade to play with?:)

thomas.pong
11-29-2018, 09:40 AM
I don't play with this blade, it's signed by Xu Xin.

Tu l'as gagnée grâce au concours Stiga sur facebook?

lignah
11-29-2018, 09:20 PM
I got it ! 17934where did you get that from?

yogi_bear
11-30-2018, 09:18 AM
Can you take pictures of the side of the blade to view the layers please?

kikij95
11-30-2018, 12:47 PM
17939

kikij95
11-30-2018, 12:51 PM
It's the blade of the stiga contest.
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SFF_lib
12-02-2018, 08:45 PM
17939

So jealous!! ;)

I wonder if the handle is hollow like other newer Stiga blades. I hope not though.

yogi_bear
12-02-2018, 09:04 PM
Hmm maybe it is koto-textreme+ -ayous-ayous-ayous-textreme+-koto. Tha ks for sharing your pics.

TurboZ
12-04-2018, 04:59 AM
Tested by a young player from Beijing Team and reaction is positive. Said it is good in all areas for penholders and no improvement is needed. Can only wish Stiga is not really charging the crazy price of 200 euro plus even for the no name version. Wonder how many will buy if they do. I am afraid I will have to skip even as a fan of XX. :(


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mZzevOX2Zg

zeio
12-04-2018, 05:27 AM
Stiga is desperate here. Their bottom line doesn't look too good.

yogi_bear
12-04-2018, 07:52 AM
Bottom line?? Please expound.

usualsuspect
12-04-2018, 02:53 PM
It's the blade of the stiga contest.
17940
Omg! It's *tears* beautiful... I wish I have one signed by XX...
Btw, what's the weight of the blade? Just curious...

kikij95
12-05-2018, 10:06 AM
I'm really surprise, the weight = 94,8 grams...

usualsuspect
12-05-2018, 05:51 PM
I'm really surprise, the weight = 94,8 grams...

Thanks. Wow! Consider this is a C-pen handle blade, 94.8g is really heavy!
I wonder what type of pen XX used to sign the blade. Clearly, the ink weighs 10g.

kikij95
12-05-2018, 09:11 PM
Xu Xin blade weight when he played with the Stiga Intensity was 88 grams. I think my dynasty carbon blade is an exception. Just a blade for collection. We will see this december. It's not possible to play with a blade = 95 grams in penhold.

tutas_piotr
12-06-2018, 09:20 AM
Does anyone know the thickness of this blade?

yogi_bear
12-06-2018, 10:47 AM
Probably around 5.8-6mm

GarbagePenholder
12-14-2018, 05:32 AM
BLADE NOW FOR SALE ON STIGATABLETENNIS.COM

It's listed at 240 euros WTF. THATS SOME BUTTERFLY PRICED SHITTT

P1ngP0ng3r
12-14-2018, 05:41 AM
Wow....240 EUR for the regular version even. Wonder what price the Xu Xin version will have :rolleyes:
Expensive blades is becoming a trend more and more it seems. The new Xiom blades are 200 EUR as well.

thomas.pong
12-14-2018, 09:30 AM
Wow....240 EUR for the regular version even. Wonder what price the Xu Xin version will have :rolleyes:
Expensive blades is becoming a trend more and more it seems. The new Xiom blades are 200 EUR as well.

The Stiga booth at the Men's World Cup told me the Xu Xin version will be 280€, they had told me the regular version would be 240€ which is now officially confirmed.

yogi_bear
12-14-2018, 11:38 AM
Yup that is the correct pricing.

SFF_lib
12-14-2018, 11:43 AM
BLADE NOW FOR SALE ON STIGATABLETENNIS.COM

It's listed at 240 euros WTF. THATS SOME BUTTERFLY PRICED SHITTT

So much inflation due to the celebrity effect I guess?

I wonder how different it is from 145.

shinshiro
12-14-2018, 02:09 PM
The price is just insane, wtf.....

I really hope that this new Textreme+ is significantly better than regular Textreme to justify this absurd price.

TurboZ
12-14-2018, 10:15 PM
This Dynasty Carbon did not help XX win the World Tour Grand Final so it is about time for Stiga to become sensible and cut down the price. :p

Giangt
12-19-2018, 08:49 PM
Stiga announced that both blades will be available tomorrow on their official webshop. Dynasty Carbon €240 and Xu Xin Edition €275.

FruitLoop
12-19-2018, 09:40 PM
Those prices are insane.

jawien
12-19-2018, 09:47 PM
Those prices are insane.

You got it d.. right McMurphy!

yogi_bear
12-20-2018, 12:32 AM
Jm super zlc is much more insane.

Zaid323918
12-20-2018, 05:29 AM
Well someone's gotta shell the cash out. We all waiting on the review

pujoki
12-21-2018, 07:35 PM
The Stiga Genesis 2 rubbers will fit very nice with this blade in a review!

zeio
12-21-2018, 07:49 PM
Bottom line?? Please expound.
Let's just say that Stiga has not been the same without Mats Bandstigen.

jamesmith
12-22-2018, 12:19 AM
the price is ridiculous, whatever expensive bat may not be suitable for us anyway, I buy good bat not expensive bat, expensive does not always mean good bat, expensive bat does not always suitable for my style .

kikij95
12-22-2018, 10:27 AM
Do you know where we can find this blade with a light weight ?
Do you know a shop with a lot of stock ? becausse stiga don't want to weight...

yogi_bear
12-22-2018, 11:36 AM
If not for the holidays i could have received my package next week. They have already sent it but i am sure it would be delayed due to the customs office on holidays in my place.

RidTheKid
12-22-2018, 01:51 PM
Ask here: http://www.sydsport.com/stiga-stomme-dynasty-carbon.html



Do you know where we can find this blade with a light weight ?
Do you know a shop with a lot of stock ? becausse stiga don't want to weight...

kikij95
12-22-2018, 02:19 PM
ok thanks, done.

Ryan Hong
12-22-2018, 04:24 PM
What about his backhand rubber?

yogi_bear
12-22-2018, 04:40 PM
Which country?

Lzrby
12-23-2018, 06:15 AM
$440 BTY Zhang Jike Super ZLC
$399 BTY Jun Mizutani Super ZLC
$294 BTY Zhang Jike ZLC


Stiga Dynasty Carbon €245 (convert to ~$279)


$227 Innerforce Layer ZLC


$160 Viscaria & Timo Boll ALC


Carbonado €160-€180


$141 DHS Long 5


$61 Infinity VPS on TT11

Fan Zhendong uses a blade that’s a quarter of the price as Xu Xin. Coincidence? I think not

TableTennisNerd
12-23-2018, 07:13 AM
$440 BTY Zhang Jike Super ZLC
$399 BTY Jun Mizutani Super ZLC
$294 BTY Zhang Jike ZLC


Stiga Dynasty Carbon €245 (convert to ~$279)


$227 Innerforce Layer ZLC


$160 Viscaria & Timo Boll ALC


Carbonado €160-€180


$141 DHS Long 5


$61 Infinity VPS on TT11

Fan Zhendong uses a blade that’s a quarter of the price as Xu Xin. Coincidence? I think not
Fan Zhendong uses a Viscaria with an Infinity VPS handle...

zeio
12-23-2018, 07:32 AM
A rather informative post ruined by the last line...

JST
12-23-2018, 08:20 AM
Fan Zhendong uses a Viscaria with an Infinity VPS handle...

Yes, what he saves on blade he spends on customized handle so they are on par;)

calvincandie
12-23-2018, 10:17 PM
So funny how you all think Fan Zhendong is using Viscarie with Infinity handles. I think it's much more likely that Stiga is just preparing some customized Infinity handles for him. Stiga has together with Butterfly the best blades in the world, I don't think it would be a problem for them to produce blade which would suit Fan Zhendong's need.

OT, why are you complaining about the price? Much cheaper then all the expensive BTY blades. It's also a blade, you don't have to change blade every year. MUCH cheaper then for example a Tenergy which you have to change every couple of month.

A blade is like a jacket, you can keep it for a couple of years and the monthly cost at the end is quite low.

For sure getting the Xu Xin Edition, don't been this excited for a blade in a long while!

Archyan
12-23-2018, 11:33 PM
So funny how you all think Fan Zhendong is using Viscarie with Infinity handles. I think it's much more likely that Stiga is just preparing some customized Infinity handles for him. Stiga has together with Butterfly the best blades in the world, I don't think it would be a problem for them to produce blade which would suit Fan Zhendong's need.

OT, why are you complaining about the price? Much cheaper then all the expensive BTY blades. It's also a blade, you don't have to change blade every year. MUCH cheaper then for example a Tenergy which you have to change every couple of month.

A blade is like a jacket, you can keep it for a couple of years and the monthly cost at the end is quite low.

For sure getting the Xu Xin Edition, don't been this excited for a blade in a long while!

Stiga are sending him and Xu Xin blades, so your theory that they are giving Fan Zhendong customized handles is incorrect

Lzrby
12-24-2018, 04:46 AM
Fan Zhendong uses a Viscaria with an Infinity VPS handle...


A rather informative post ruined by the last line...

hehe interesting comment. Alas, nothing is 100% perfect.

Of course Fan Zhendong’s blade is not the same as the infinity VPS on the market, just like Wang Liqin’s Clipper wasn’t the same as other clippers on the market (see another post somewhere on the forums). Im not really concerned about exactly what blade or handle Fan Zhendong or Xu Xin are using. I’m just ranting about the fact that Stiga made my favorite player’s blade hella expensive. : ) and I’m trying to point out that people spend so much on trying equipment and so little on staying consistent enough to get used to their blade (and train their technique).
Who knows? Maybe Stiga will later make a Fan Zhendong blade that’s super expensive as well. All about the name brand

JST
12-24-2018, 11:28 AM
So funny how you all think Fan Zhendong is using Viscarie with Infinity handles.

All the sources (including those close to CNT) confirms that, what is your theory or intel?;)

JST
12-24-2018, 11:30 AM
Who knows? Maybe Stiga will later make a Fan Zhendong blade that’s super expensive as well. All about the name brand

I do believe they will follow up XX blade story, there is no way they would be marketing just VPS as FZDs blade if they could charge such premium for "real" FZD signature blade. If XX series sells well we can look for similar trick in 2019...

calvincandie
12-30-2018, 10:56 PM
I do believe they will follow up XX blade story, there is no way they would be marketing just VPS as FZDs blade if they could charge such premium for "real" FZD signature blade. If XX series sells well we can look for similar trick in 2019...

I think the most solid argument that Fan Zhendong is indeed playing with Infinity is the fact that they have not released any other blades with Fan Zhendong's name yet. Not have he changed blade for the last years neither. If he was in fact using another blade than Infinity, I'm pretty sure that STIGA would have released another blade. I think this is the most solid argument/fact that points to the fact that Fan Zhendong is in fact using Infinity (or some kind of customized version of Infinity).

In terms of the XX Edition, the price is quite high, yes. But still cheaper then many BTY blades which the butterfly players are not using. Xu Xin seems to be in fact playing with this blade. In contrast to the 13 different Timo Boll blades BTY have, and their extremely overpriced ZJK blade.

Don't hold your breath for a 2019 Fan Zhendong blade, unless he change blade, which is not likely since he's currently winning almost everything.

JST
12-31-2018, 08:57 AM
I think the most solid argument that Fan Zhendong is indeed playing with Infinity is the fact that they have not released any other blades with Fan Zhendong's name yet.

Sorry to inform you that is obviously nonsense. Just look on any FZD blade's photo on the internet, the structure has nothing to do with Infinity. It has clearly visible blue-white ALC layer under the top ply and it's common consensus he is using Viscaria blade just with Infinity VPS handle to keep his sponsoring obligations (you can even buy such customized Viscaria at ProTT.vip shop in China;)

For more see e.g. this thread: https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?6502-Fan-Zhendong-equipment/page7

usualsuspect
01-03-2019, 05:59 PM
Just ordered a dynasty carbon! Can't wait to try it out. Now I just have to wait for the shipping...

GarbagePenholder
01-04-2019, 01:44 AM
Check out Tabletennis11's comparison of xuxin dynasty and regular dynasty carbon. XX dynasty carbon is lighter weight and thinner? So infact these two blades are not the same?

Alexwang
01-04-2019, 01:53 AM
The official TableTennisDaily discussion where we post and talk about Xu Xin's equipment. Any changes he has made or any pictures you find, post into here to discuss!

Blade: Stiga Intensity V NCT
FH: TG2 Skyline
BH: Hurricane 3 custom sponge

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/sports/images/attachement/jpg/site1/20130516/002564bc674512fe83df09.jpg

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q75/s720x720/1375206_547154892021070_1872803070_n.jpg

Any rare pictures or details about Xu Xin's equipment post below. I will update this first post with new pics and information when we have some.

for last several months, ge changed to a blade called coming soon, which just start to sell in chinese, is called dynasty, basically it is a carbonado. intensity is the blade he used for the longest. and he did switched to hurricane 3 for his backhand already

usualsuspect
01-04-2019, 12:52 PM
Check out Tabletennis11's comparison of xuxin dynasty and regular dynasty carbon. XX dynasty carbon is lighter weight and thinner? So infact these two blades are not the same?

Xu Xin version and the regular version are the same. I emailed TT11 about the blades' weights, they range from 88g to 92g (FL & ST). Sensibly, the heavier blades tend to be a bit thicker too. You can see such variance with any model of blades.