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robbie6
03-25-2014, 01:15 PM
Hey guys

I recently picked up table tennis again after not playing for over 7 years. I've played on a regional level before and I'm currently looking for a new setup since I was playing with a cheap bat to learn the techniques again.

From what I've read most "pro's" use DHS Hurricane 3 on the forehand and Butterfly Tenergys on the backhand but I couldn't find an alternative especially for the backhand from DHS since I always liked the tacky chinese rubbers esp. during the speed glue era.

Do you guys have a suggestion on which rubber I could try for the backhand esp. from DHS since I dont have to spend 50€ on a Tenergy just for practicing.

Alborz
03-25-2014, 02:36 PM
DHS rubbers are hard and tacky and they are not good for backhand. Almost every one uses a bouncy/none-tacky rubber on backhand.
I recommend you to find an alternative to T05 like Donic Bluefire M2. M2 is very similar to T05 and its price is half of T05.

robbie6
03-25-2014, 03:04 PM
Thanks for the suggestion. Well i just checked and here in Germany the price for Tenergy 05 is 55€ and for M2 46€ so I could also go with the Tenergy.

But actually my main concern is that the new rubbers are too fast to practice the strokes and get the technique right again. Since if remember correctly the chinese rubbers I used back in the days were quite slow when not speedglued.

Another guy suggested the andro rasant series to me via pm but they are also quite expensive maybe someone can give some input on that ones?

Vardant
03-25-2014, 03:20 PM
You could get something from the TinArc series DHS made, they're not tacky(or not as much) and only medium hard.

You might as well go for the Hurricane 3-50 on the FH, they're starting to be available around the world.

Going for Tenergy or any ESN rubber from the last generation or two(Andro Rasant, Bluefire etc.) after taking a break for 7 years will not only be a waste of money, but probably way too fast for you.

Tony's Table Tennis
03-25-2014, 03:48 PM
You could get something from the TinArc series DHS made, they're not tacky(or not as much) and only medium hard.

You might as well go for the Hurricane 3-50 on the FH, they're starting to be available around the world.

Going for Tenergy or any ESN rubber from the last generation or two(Andro Rasant, Bluefire etc.) after taking a break for 7 years will not only be a waste of money, but probably way too fast for you.

I agree on the waste of money + too fast.

There are quite a few low cost rubbers like Dawei 2000XP or 729 Focus III Snipe that can fit your needs just fine - and you can upgrade in a few months or a years time when you are back to your best levels.
You can even consider the Yinhe Moon range of rubbers - they come in different sponge hardness too.
All of these are not tacky.

If you want a full DHS setup - note it might be a bit on the heavy side.
You can go with Hurricane on FH and Tin Arc on BH (Tin Arc is not cheap).

Players like Wang Liqin and Wang Nan used to play with Hurricane on both sides and I know many people that prefer hard tacky rubbers on the BH - so it is not imposible or wrong by any ways.

New rubbers out is H3-50 and TA5, that you can consider.

robbie6
03-25-2014, 10:02 PM
Thanks for the suggestions the Yinhe Moon range and the 729 III Snipe are pretty good ones. Altough I discovered that a local dealer has the Yasaka Mark V on sale which should be a good rubber aswell to practice?

TurboZ
03-27-2014, 08:49 AM
DHS has some non tacky rubbers suitable for BH and cheap, such as Dipper 3, TNT and Memo 2. Tin Arc 3 is over priced outside China and I found it play closer to other Chinese rubber than Tenergy.

AndySmith
03-27-2014, 01:00 PM
Tin Arc is great. You can get it for around £18 on ebay - good value for the performance. The new H3-50 might also be a good BH option, but it's very new and no reviews have appeared yet.

adnan
01-16-2015, 08:12 PM
maybe venus 2

htfu
01-16-2015, 08:52 PM
i moved from donic coppa x2 silver to yinhe moon pro, definitely a good switch for me. but as always ymmcv and a solid bh rubber is always the dawei xp 2008 superpower ... cheap and by all accounts a great allround control rubber without the bounce of modern tensors.

Argothman
01-17-2015, 03:29 AM
I can vouch for Bluefire M2, I use it on my backhand. I got it for ~$30, half the price of Tenergy. It's a nice rubber, good spin and speed, but not too much catapult, it does precisely what you want it to. It's also not too fast, so intermediate players can definitely enjoy this rubber.

tt-cro
01-17-2015, 10:43 AM
I like skyline on bh,but for the most of players thats not good option,but my bh is kind of...specific :D hahaha
You may try tin arc 3 or 5,i heard they are good bh solutions,and they are pretty cheap(comparing with tenergyes)

Sean_Paul
01-17-2015, 11:21 AM
Im using DHS Skyline 3 NEO ,these chinese rubers are not good.Its like hell.When I play spin to spin game the ball goes down.

I recommend you Stga Calibra LT :)
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Sean_Paul

tt-cro
01-17-2015, 01:54 PM
Im using DHS Skyline 3 NEO ,these chinese rubers are not good.Its like hell.When I play spin to spin game the ball goes down.

I recommend you Stga Calibra LT :)
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Sean_Paul

Thats because skyline have low throw angle,and if you played with tenergyes before, you need to open your bat a lot more ;)
Thats why i use skyline only on bh,and on fh chinese rubber with higher throw angle,in this moment Super 999T :D

bobpuls
03-02-2015, 09:49 AM
Try Andro rasanat Grrip for Bh (30 Euro).. it is something like tenergy 80 ... I have it with Dhs Neo H3 and it is great rubber ... on some cases to distract opponent i just switching this two rubbers (different loops and spin).

Tinykin
03-02-2015, 10:52 AM
I don't know how long since you've played, but if you used the 38mm ball then the new plastic balls will be quite a shock.
Since you can get MarkV locally at a good price, use it for both sides of your blade. Mark V is still the standard used to compare and judge other rubbers, simply because most players have used it at some time or other.

Liten
03-02-2015, 12:26 PM
Rubbers and blades.. Im starting to feel it is sort of like stings and basses. Each combination needs to be evaluated personaly...
Reading loads of info online, databases of stats and thaughts.. I got a new TG2 neo and a Stiga Boost XT thinking the boost xt would be a great BH-rubber to complement the TG2 neo that I was used to. Turns out the boost xt is super as a FH-rubber and the TG2 neo works really well as a BH-rubber for me. I play the TG2 neo unboosted. It offers good control once you learn how it woks with your blade.
I used the H3 neo earlier and that did nothing for me on my Stiga Hybrid wood blade. So, I glued it on my Stiga classic WRB and it does really well. :)

A dhs neo TG3 or TG2 or H3 ain't expencive.. try one on... hope you find what works for you! :)

mahomedy13
03-02-2015, 02:41 PM
Rubbers and blades.. Im starting to feel it is sort of like stings and basses. Each combination needs to be evaluated personaly...
Reading loads of info online, databases of stats and thaughts.. I got a new TG2 neo and a Stiga Boost XT thinking the boost xt would be a great BH-rubber to complement the TG2 neo that I was used to. Turns out the boost xt is super as a FH-rubber and the TG2 neo works really well as a BH-rubber for me. I play the TG2 neo unboosted. It offers good control once you learn how it woks with your blade.
I used the H3 neo earlier and that did nothing for me on my Stiga Hybrid wood blade. So, I glued it on my Stiga classic WRB and it does really well. :)

A dhs neo TG3 or TG2 or H3 ain't expencive.. try one on... hope you find what works for you! :)

The neo series from DHS is actually the preboosted rubbers,so in fact you are using a booosted chinese rubber on bh

Liten
03-03-2015, 09:34 AM
The neo series from DHS is actually the preboosted rubbers,so in fact you are using a booosted chinese rubber on bh
If that is so, the amount of boost must be moderate. The rubber feels unboosted compared to the Stiga boost xt rubber.